#archiveteam 2011-10-30,Sun

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00:33 🔗 underscor Gotta love a 60 hour ETA for an rsync
00:33 🔗 underscor :(
00:40 🔗 Coderjoe sundown: there's also selenium
00:41 🔗 Coderjoe selenium is more intended for driving browsers to test websites during development (to make what are essentially unit tests), but I suspect it could be used for other purposes
00:44 🔗 SketchCow NaCL (Native Client, also called "Salt") is something I'm aware of. I am not interested in porting to NaCL.
00:44 🔗 SketchCow NaCL is, essentially flash.
00:44 🔗 SketchCow A plugin.
00:44 🔗 SketchCow I don't wish to port MAME to Chrome.
00:44 🔗 Coderjoe js+html5 should be able to handle it. it might be slow for a bit until js runtimes improve, but it can handle it
00:45 🔗 Coderjoe that canvas is crazy
00:45 🔗 SketchCow I do not wish to hitch the porting of mame/mess to Google's whims. How about that.
00:45 🔗 SketchCow Next, let's try porting MAME to javascript before we DECIDE HOW IT WILL RUN
00:46 🔗 SketchCow dashcloud: Yes, game manuals too.
00:47 🔗 Coderjoe at no point was I saying "don't do it because it will run like shit" or anything of the sort
00:48 🔗 SketchCow Coderjoe: It's not all about you.
00:48 🔗 SketchCow 14:35 < balrog> still, running MAME in javascript ... that's gonna be pathetically slow
00:48 🔗 SketchCow Oh look, another person talking not you
00:48 🔗 SketchCow Now, give me a moment, Schbirid definitely gave me the weirdest single way to transfer over a torrent ever.
00:49 🔗 SketchCow I can't believe that worked.
00:50 🔗 SketchCow Anyway, every single person in this channel could tell me not to do it and I'd do it.
00:50 🔗 SketchCow As it is, people are taking wait and see and I'm fine with that.
00:51 🔗 Coderjoe my berlios chunk is uploaded to the batcave
00:52 🔗 SketchCow Thanks
00:52 🔗 SketchCow I'm going to have a hell of time throwing this all together.
01:09 🔗 SketchCow The Google Groups thing is crazy.
01:09 🔗 SketchCow Meanwhile, I uploaded a terabyte today.
01:14 🔗 db48x2 mmm, terabytes
01:31 🔗 SketchCow Gabillions of them
01:42 🔗 SketchCow Huh.
01:42 🔗 SketchCow So 730gb file here
01:42 🔗 SketchCow I do an untar to split it up
01:43 🔗 SketchCow It makes 138gb of files.
01:43 🔗 SketchCow Trying to see what the hell's up.
01:44 🔗 chronomex strange
01:44 🔗 chronomex are they a zillion teensy files, smaller than the tar header block?
01:44 🔗 chronomex s/zillion/metric fuckzillion/
02:19 🔗 SketchCow What's interesting is that it DEFINITELY unpacks 6300097-6399947
02:19 🔗 SketchCow Which is, you know, standardly fine assignment set.
02:22 🔗 SketchCow 6,300,000 - 6,400,000 (6,378 Users, 44,962 videos, 849gb) Guan (to underscor)
02:22 🔗 SketchCow So, something's messed up there.
02:24 🔗 underscor I probably still have that laying around here
02:25 🔗 SketchCow I'll have underscor look at his copy.
02:25 🔗 SketchCow If you don't I will murder you
02:25 🔗 SketchCow You have drives aplenty
02:25 🔗 underscor Butbutbut
02:25 🔗 SketchCow THERE'S SOME MOTIVATION - MURDER
02:25 🔗 underscor where do I keep my porn then?????
02:26 🔗 SketchCow I guess technically I can just set you loose on the local machine.
02:27 🔗 SketchCow I'm doing two unpacks. Then we can think about it.
02:27 🔗 SketchCow And by think about it I mean later.
02:27 🔗 SketchCow I got a lot uploaded, we have 17tb free, we don't need to handle it today.
02:27 🔗 SketchCow And I was invited to a bar crawl that I should attend.
02:28 🔗 SketchCow But I am interested in that mystery.
02:28 🔗 SketchCow It stands out too.
02:30 🔗 underscor What do you mean, "I can just set you loose on the local machine"
02:30 🔗 SketchCow I can have you look at this file, locally.
02:30 🔗 SketchCow And analyze it.
02:30 🔗 SketchCow Then compare to your machine.
02:30 🔗 underscor oh, right
02:31 🔗 underscor just send me the path or w/e and chmod a+r
02:31 🔗 SketchCow Right.
02:31 🔗 SketchCow Tomorrow
02:31 🔗 underscor k
02:32 🔗 SketchCow I have so much money to make films
02:32 🔗 SketchCow Going to make some great films.
02:34 🔗 SketchCow And history!
02:34 🔗 SketchCow P.S. really, go check out that DNA lounge collection, that's by my estimate 10,000 hours of music.
02:36 🔗 SketchCow Talk to people tomorrow, I am SURE I'll be in an awesome mood then.
02:53 🔗 chronomex http://www.kickstarter.com/profile/textfiles is this screaming angry jason or orgasmic jason?
02:53 🔗 underscor Woah
02:53 🔗 underscor Is it just me or have drive prices jumped like crazy?
02:54 🔗 chronomex floods in thailand kicked a significant fraction of hdd fab capacity offline for about 6 months starting now
02:54 🔗 underscor $140 for a 2TB?!
02:54 🔗 underscor Oh shi-
02:54 🔗 chronomex right.
02:54 🔗 underscor That really sucks
02:54 🔗 chronomex prices aren't going down for a while.
02:54 🔗 underscor :(
02:54 🔗 chronomex yup
02:55 🔗 underscor http://www.computerworlduk.com/news/it-business/3313928/thai-floods-unlikely-to-cause-hard-drive-price-rise-soon/
02:55 🔗 underscor Yeah right
02:56 🔗 underscor Fucking thailand
02:56 🔗 underscor How inconsiderate
02:56 🔗 Coderjoe underscor: floods in thailand driving the prices up
02:57 🔗 chronomex thucknig failand
02:57 🔗 Coderjoe the prices went up because retailers saw a way to gouge on the disaster with existing supply and new supply made elsewhere
02:57 🔗 chronomex ^
02:57 🔗 Coderjoe retailers/mfgrs/etc
02:58 🔗 chronomex I bought a pile of disk right before the news came out
02:58 🔗 chronomex so I'm sitting pretty
02:58 🔗 underscor >:|
02:58 🔗 underscor Disks were actually getting pretty affordable
02:59 🔗 chronomex they always approach that
02:59 🔗 chronomex but then files just get bigger
02:59 🔗 chronomex http://www.cgal.org/Manual/latest/doc_html/cgal_manual/Minkowski_sum_3/Chapter_main.html <-- minkowski sum is a neat operation
02:59 🔗 underscor Jeez
03:00 🔗 underscor Everything on newegg is limit 1 per customer
03:00 🔗 Coderjoe people see disaster and reactive price rise and panic, causing a shortage
03:30 🔗 DFJustin <SketchCow> But so far, nothing too bad. I hope people keep their copies of stuff they uploaded, when possible, until they see it active on archive.org.
03:30 🔗 DFJustin I keep all
03:30 🔗 DFJustin in two places until it gets to you
03:30 🔗 DFJustin that may change as projects get bigger though
04:46 🔗 Simfish Hey I'm new - is anyone here?
04:46 🔗 Simfish I have a serious proposal to make regarding Facebook Groups
04:46 🔗 Simfish details at http://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-project-to-archive-the-info-boxes-for-all-the-old-facebook-groups?q=archive+old+facebook+groups
04:52 🔗 Simfish PS: are the convos in this room logged? i'd like to see them
04:55 🔗 ersi closure: Upload of chunk-10 and chunk-11 to batcave complete.
04:56 🔗 bsmith093 Simfish: yes check the topic
04:58 🔗 Simfish what about logs before 7 days ago?
05:00 🔗 underscor Simfish: Just change the date in the url
05:00 🔗 Simfish okay
05:00 🔗 Simfish does anyone want to save old facebook groups?
05:02 🔗 underscor Facebook is one of those things SketchCow is finnicky about
05:02 🔗 underscor But you're welcome to help round up some volunteers!
05:02 🔗 Simfish hmm what do you mean by that?
05:02 🔗 Simfish how is he finnicky about them?
05:03 🔗 underscor We have tons of subprojects that he's not even involved in
05:03 🔗 underscor He thinks facebook is the SPAWN OF SATAN
05:03 🔗 underscor hahaha
05:03 🔗 Simfish oh ok
05:03 🔗 Simfish is SketchCow the leader?
05:03 🔗 db48x mascot
05:03 🔗 Simfish ah
05:03 🔗 Simfish what about old gaming clan websites?
05:04 🔗 db48x that'd also be a good project
05:04 🔗 db48x both will require some level of inside access
05:04 🔗 Simfish ah okay
05:04 🔗 db48x a facebook login for the former
05:05 🔗 Simfish what about adding reddit to the http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Fire_Drill ?
05:05 🔗 Simfish oh yeah - does anyone have any ajax parsing scripts?
05:05 🔗 db48x go for it
05:05 🔗 db48x ajax parsing?
05:05 🔗 Simfish i know some people who wrote scripts to deal with the annoying ajax "click more" buttons
05:05 🔗 Simfish yea
05:05 🔗 db48x ah
05:05 🔗 db48x we haven't needed that yet
05:05 🔗 Simfish oh i see
05:06 🔗 Simfish what about archiving reddit?
05:07 🔗 Simfish oh yeah does anyone use CrashPlan?
05:07 🔗 Simfish also how are we going to guard against EMP pulses?
05:08 🔗 chronomex punched paper tape is proof against EMP
05:09 🔗 underscor Stone engraving is proof against EMP and fire
05:09 🔗 chronomex punched hdpe plastic tape is proof against EMP and decomposition of most every kind
05:09 🔗 chronomex but we have not need for that yet
05:10 🔗 Simfish http://www.quora.com/Will-historians-of-the-future-be-doomed-to-failure-because-of-the-methods-of-information-storage-we-use-today
05:11 🔗 chronomex yeah we're fucked.
05:15 🔗 Simfish does anyone know how i could preserve a site like http://www.autoadmit.com
05:21 🔗 chronomex http://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1795180
05:21 🔗 chronomex iterate through the urls:
05:22 🔗 Simfish oh good pt. but i'd like to preserve the internal linking from the thread page
05:22 🔗 chronomex ?
05:22 🔗 Simfish thread index
05:22 🔗 Simfish problem is
05:22 🔗 Simfish threads are posted every few seconds
05:22 🔗 OtisJenki Hey Simfish
05:22 🔗 Simfish but eh, there's a lot of redundancy in thread index
05:22 🔗 Simfish okay i'll talk
05:29 🔗 DFJustin http://www.norsam.com/rosetta.html
05:47 🔗 Simfish are external HDs reliabel to get off ebay
05:48 🔗 Simfish reliable*?
05:52 🔗 Simfish does the team hang out on reddit?
06:18 🔗 chronomex archiveteam does not use reddit
06:19 🔗 chronomex never buy used disks
06:41 🔗 db48x yea, if you buy a used disk you never know what you'll get
12:05 🔗 ersi Simfish: You can't even know what you get when you buy new hard drives. They can be DOA
12:05 🔗 dnova honestly the key is just to never rely on any single storage device/media
12:07 🔗 dnova and at least with a new HD that is DOA, a replacement is very straightforward in most cases
14:15 🔗 Coderjoe with new drives, they are usually DOA or die at least a few years down the line. (yes, some die in the middle, but that is far less common)
14:15 🔗 Coderjoe with used drives, you have little idea how much abuse they had previously
19:21 🔗 balrog so berlios project done?
19:39 🔗 closure balrog: you need to upload your stuff to batcave
19:39 🔗 balrog I need info on where to upload
19:39 🔗 closure SketchCow can set you up with an account when his plane lands
19:40 🔗 balrog ok.
19:40 🔗 closure dashcloud yipdw wyatt Coderjoe ersi: you need to upload your Belios stuff too..
20:31 🔗 Coderjoe closure: [Oct 29 11 20:51] <Coderjoe> my berlios chunk is uploaded to the batcave
20:36 🔗 dashcloud I've got my berlios stuff ready for upload- just need info on uploading it
20:55 🔗 josephwdy *hug*
21:30 🔗 ersi closure: I told you I have.
23:32 🔗 underscor Recommendations for a photosharing site?
23:32 🔗 underscor Leaning towards Flickr pro
23:32 🔗 underscor Phanfare looks nice, but too $
23:47 🔗 yipdw closure: it's uploading

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