#archiveteam 2011-11-07,Mon

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01:57 ๐Ÿ”— closure heh, 1 tb on amazon currently costs more than 2 tb
01:59 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex how strange
01:59 ๐Ÿ”— closure run on 1 tb drives by people who don't know there are 2 tb drives?
02:00 ๐Ÿ”— closure I also heard of some 1 tb NAS boxes selling for less than bare drives
02:08 ๐Ÿ”— human39 whats the recommend command line switches to use with wget to mirror a site? I've been using '-mckEp'.
04:16 ๐Ÿ”— DFJustin holy shit the 2tb hd I got for $150 last month is $260 now
04:18 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow Yeah
04:18 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow This is a good time to hang back with the buying
04:18 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow For the purposes of the team, I can provide space through batcave until the storm is over.
04:30 ๐Ÿ”— underscor NOT IF I FILL IT UP FIRST
04:30 ๐Ÿ”— underscor he he he he he he
04:32 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow YOU need to get cracking mailing those hard drives
04:42 ๐Ÿ”— rude___ hallo
04:42 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex hallo
04:43 ๐Ÿ”— rude___ what's up chronomex
04:43 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex trying to find some 3d models
04:43 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3594 not all the parts in the photo are there
04:45 ๐Ÿ”— rude___ interesting.
04:48 ๐Ÿ”— rude___ what are you building, ultimately?
04:53 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex multi-nozzle 3d printer
04:53 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex colored prints!
04:55 ๐Ÿ”— underscor SketchCow: I've been mirroring and moving stuff around since we talked!
04:55 ๐Ÿ”— underscor 86 hour tar, gotta love it
05:14 ๐Ÿ”— rude___ I've always wanted to make a 3d printer that uses hot melt gluesticks as the consumable
09:43 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardware/2011/11/07/hard-disk-component-supply-could-take-years/1
10:35 ๐Ÿ”— ersi :/
11:37 ๐Ÿ”— dnova ersi: man man man
11:37 ๐Ÿ”— dnova I hadn't heard that nidec was hit
11:37 ๐Ÿ”— dnova what a mess :(
11:40 ๐Ÿ”— dnova coincidentally, I was playing around with some hard drives yesterday. If you care, here some interesting images I took of one of the heads: http://spielme.com/sem/hdhead/
14:32 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow Ops, when people have a chance.
14:35 ๐Ÿ”— ersi B a m
14:55 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow Thanks.
17:55 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw alard: rev 12a8738 of the mobileme-grab scripts occasionally create overly-long directories, as in this example -> https://gist.github.com/7651da4d8c1d879772d0
17:58 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw alard: looks like the <summary> element from the webdav feed is leaking through when dld-me-com prepares the url list
18:16 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex dnova: you run a SEM? neat!
18:55 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow The phone phreaking book I proofed last week had a whole thing on BSP
18:55 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow Mentioning the legendary sweeping book
18:55 ๐Ÿ”— db48x man, I love ffmpeg2theora
18:55 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow How to sweep and for how long each stroke should be, etc.
18:56 ๐Ÿ”— db48x SketchCow: haven't heard of that one
18:57 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow It's in there.
20:17 ๐Ÿ”— underscor dnova: Those are awesome!
20:17 ๐Ÿ”— underscor dnova: The little pin here is the write head?
20:17 ๐Ÿ”— underscor http://spielme.com/sem/hdhead/sem6.jpg
20:35 ๐Ÿ”— dnova underscor: the pin is the "main pole" or whatever the phrase is
20:36 ๐Ÿ”— dnova the whole thing comprises the write head (and afaik it doubles as read head)
20:36 ๐Ÿ”— dnova the actual data is written in that ~100 nanometer gap
20:37 ๐Ÿ”— underscor The line on the pin?
20:37 ๐Ÿ”— underscor Also, what's all that cruft above it?
20:37 ๐Ÿ”— dnova yeah where it's sort of chopped off, so to speak
20:37 ๐Ÿ”— underscor (not visible in that picture)
20:37 ๐Ÿ”— underscor But in the optical one, there's all that rough stuff at the end
20:38 ๐Ÿ”— underscor http://spielme.com/sem/hdhead/opticalhightlight.jpg
20:38 ๐Ÿ”— underscor Circled there
20:38 ๐Ÿ”— dnova I'm not sure. The rough stuff is silver particles. My best guess right now is that it is a ground and the silver powder is just the connection method they used to connect the grounded armature to the gold traces
20:38 ๐Ÿ”— dnova it only goes to the head substrate...
20:38 ๐Ÿ”— underscor I see
20:38 ๐Ÿ”— underscor It's so cool!
20:40 ๐Ÿ”— underscor What are these of?
20:40 ๐Ÿ”— underscor http://spielme.com/sem/moly_powder/
20:40 ๐Ÿ”— dnova hehe
20:40 ๐Ÿ”— dnova that's just molybdenum powders
20:40 ๐Ÿ”— underscor That's what I figured
20:41 ๐Ÿ”— underscor and this? http://spielme.com/sem/misc/ball%20bond.jpg
20:41 ๐Ÿ”— dnova that is the first sem image I ever took
20:41 ๐Ÿ”— dnova it's just a gold ball bond on an integrated circuit package
20:41 ๐Ÿ”— underscor Oh okay
20:42 ๐Ÿ”— underscor sem photos are so cool
20:42 ๐Ÿ”— dnova it was subject to some kind of g-force test
20:42 ๐Ÿ”— dnova some of them fall off or have the wires break
20:43 ๐Ÿ”— underscor Ah
20:43 ๐Ÿ”— dnova a lot of the images there are very old ones :3
20:43 ๐Ÿ”— underscor Still cool!
20:44 ๐Ÿ”— underscor I was always surprised the magnets in the drive didn't corrupt data
20:44 ๐Ÿ”— dnova the majority of their flux is contained in the vicinity of the voice coil but even if you passed them over the platter surface it is not likely that you would destroy any data
20:44 ๐Ÿ”— underscor Really?
20:45 ๐Ÿ”— dnova in very old drives that use iron powder as the active medium, you would
20:45 ๐Ÿ”— db48x not much flux density
20:45 ๐Ÿ”— underscor So that whole thing about "don't store magnets anywhere near your computer" isn't really a big deal?
20:46 ๐Ÿ”— dnova it was for floppy diskettes
20:46 ๐Ÿ”— underscor Oh, right
20:46 ๐Ÿ”— underscor But for HDs, it's not an issue
20:46 ๐Ÿ”— db48x correct
20:46 ๐Ÿ”— dnova not at all
20:46 ๐Ÿ”— underscor Damn
20:47 ๐Ÿ”— underscor So the substrate used for HDs is a lot less sensitive to outside magnetic influence?
20:47 ๐Ÿ”— dnova yes especially modern perpendicular recording drives.
20:47 ๐Ÿ”— dnova and this is bare platters....
20:48 ๐Ÿ”— dnova hard drives are *usually* fully assembled in very nice metal boxes
20:49 ๐Ÿ”— underscor So there's effectively more danger from having exposed platters to the environment than there is any magnetic damage...
20:49 ๐Ÿ”— underscor Man, I can't believe I didn't know this :'(
20:49 ๐Ÿ”— dnova oh by far
20:49 ๐Ÿ”— underscor Cause a fleck of dust will ruin the whole shebang
20:53 ๐Ÿ”— dnova yes... look at this image http://spielme.com/sem/hdhead/sem4.jpg
20:53 ๐Ÿ”— dnova a human hair is roughly 25 times wider than the entire image.
20:55 ๐Ÿ”— underscor Than the entire imageรขย€ยฝรขย€ยฝ
20:56 ๐Ÿ”— dnova :)
21:03 ๐Ÿ”— dnova underscor I have unfettered access to a couple of SEMs so if you have any requests, feel free :)
21:03 ๐Ÿ”— underscor Oh man, that's cool
21:04 ๐Ÿ”— underscor I don't even know what to request
21:04 ๐Ÿ”— underscor haha
21:04 ๐Ÿ”— dnova it's a standing offer. you can send me something too
21:04 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex o_o
21:06 ๐Ÿ”— underscor :D
21:09 ๐Ÿ”— rude___ what is the most effective photo stitching software these days?
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22:06 ๐Ÿ”— underscor Shut up, you
22:10 ๐Ÿ”— rude___ yup
22:11 ๐Ÿ”— underscor rude___: #archiveteam-idle
22:52 ๐Ÿ”— alard yipdw: Thanks, the <summary> problem should be fixed now.
22:57 ๐Ÿ”— underscor alard: Ops?

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