[00:14] mmm [00:14] <3 people that think they know copyright law but don't [00:14] http://i.imgur.com/WZL4K.png [00:15] (the image is a few months old, so the comments are at least 7 months old now) [00:15] i realize this pioint has been made, but does anyone still honestly care? [00:16] who is it hurting? i actually like rifftracks and the youtube clips ive seen have led me to buy a bunch of their shorts [00:16] er, short films riff [00:17] Coderjoe: isn't that "most people"? [00:17] I don't have a problem with the people actually posting the excerpts, really. (and I don't think it should be illegal) but I do have a problem with people acting like they know the law when they don't [00:18] Copyright: Here be dragons [00:18] and people should care about copyright laws because PIPA and SOPA are terrible monstrosities [00:19] posting that excerpt would become a felony with a punishment of up to 5 years in prison [00:21] i would say people shouldn;t care because sopa and pipa are monstorsities [00:22] i have got to learn to type :P [00:23] any way, good news the script works, im just tweaking the output format, directory-structure-wise [00:24] epub, text or html? [00:25] sorted by author then genre, like authorblah/books/harry Potter/harrystory [00:25] i cant believe how much work somebody put into the python script [00:26] they're vars for everything about each story, author title, wordcount, last update, complete or not etc [00:28] the problem with copyright is that ignoring it is essentially a death sentence if you get caught [00:28] and that's not right [00:29] no, being convicted copyright infringement won't literally kill you [00:29] but the penalties are ridiculous [00:31] also, philosophically, there is something wrong with a society that imposes extreme penalities via laws that everyone ignores, and that wrong should be made right [00:31] being convicted of a felony removes a number of rights and causes problems with attempts to get employed [00:33] I wish to qualify my previous statement by eliminating the degenerate case [00:34] e.g. if everyone started murdering everyone else, that doesn't suddenly mean "oh, gee, murder must be right" [00:35] (whether those rights or privileges should be removed is another matter... for example, the 2nd ammendment says the right to bear arms shall not be infringed, but if you are convicted of a felony, you're not allowed to own firearms) [00:40] yes, the penalties should be brought inot line with , well, any raional law, really. [00:40] it shouldn''t be works legally to have 10 counts of infirngemnts, vs 10 counts of murder [00:46] Has anyone else been contacted by the fact checker? [00:46] no [00:46] nope [00:46] You would have first been interviewed. [00:46] They're closing the story in 24 hours and they're flipping out now that I've withdrawn support. [00:47] so the story is dead now? [00:48] they'll just label it "Unauthorized" and sell it for book and movie deals [00:48] No, they'll do it. [00:50] people still check facts before publishing? [00:52] will some one please look over the defaults file and tell me what im doing wrong im trying to tweak the output directory to be category, but it says that doesnt exist http://pastebin.com/wgrJ3P1U [00:53] SketchCow: what story [00:54] a story about a bunch of internet crazies that download stuff like geocities and friendster that nobody cares about anymore [00:54] did you see Dreamhost is currently the promoted username on Twitter? maybe re-tweet your complaint now- with a clever hashtag, could do well [01:50] Anyone in the SF area available at 11am thursday? E-mail me, jason@textfiles.com, I'll put you in touchDamn [01:50] it appears that a set of friends of mine are posed to literally take everything out of the gamepro offices not nailed down [01:50] Damn* [01:50] Best reason to be in SF [01:55] I wonder if they have Francis Mao nailed down in the office [02:40] i have practically every word hp lovecraft ever penned in audio form, would that be kosher for ia [02:40] yes [02:41] k then uploading [02:41] "kosher for ia" = "product of human creativity" + "interesting to humans" [02:41] either condition will do [02:47] chronomex: you left out "potentially interesting to future humans" in the case where it isn't really interesting to current humans [02:49] le his estate handle the copyright boondoggle [02:50] i'm not positive, but the ia likely handles such by just making the item dark until the copyright expires [02:50] (meaning it is still stored, you just can't access it) [02:58] which shoould be in 2015 or so [02:59] most of his works pd, jus the really late stuff even hit the post 23 era [03:00] explains some of the lovecraft comics coming out somewhat recently [03:00] his comics [03:00] is someone working on a lovecraft-related movie? [03:01] well cthulu was already a movie [03:01] (after disney started working on Carter of Mars, there have been a number of comics coming out based on Burroughs' work) [03:02] anyone remember thief and he cobbler [03:03] i know disney was touching it at some point, but i have a copy of the recobbled cut ( mk III) iso, and i was wondering if that would be stupid to also put up, just so it doensnt go away [03:47] Put it where [04:08] up on ia [04:19] It'll just be darked. [04:22] http://www.channelem.net/watch-now/ [04:23] Streaming IPTV 24/7 :] [04:24] I keep running out of memory because wget-warc uses a huge amount for big profiles [04:24] so the profiles keep failing [04:24] 15872 root 16 0 1089m 706m 696 S 0.0 41.4 14:31.88 wget-warc [04:24] 15034 root 15 0 370m 309m 716 S 0.0 18.1 1:57.51 wget-warc [04:25] the one that just died was over 1GB of memory [04:25] dnova, how much swap do you have? [04:25] 1gb swap 1.7gb ram [04:25] hm [04:25] Do you have a flash drive that you could format for swap? [04:25] can you add swap to a running system? [04:26] (doesn't help me right now -- that's an EC2 instance, but useful info for lateR) [04:26] yes [04:27] dd if=/dev/zero of=/swapfile bs=1024 count=524288 [04:27] mkswap /swapfile1 [04:27] mkswap /swapfile1 [04:27] that'll create a 512MB swap space [04:28] I can make swap space out of some arbitrary file in some arbitrary location? [04:28] well, shit. [04:28] ya [04:28] thanks. [04:28] np [04:30] * dnova does that [04:30] er [04:30] swapon /swapfile1 [04:30] only mkswap once [04:31] and remove the '1' at the end [04:31] well look at that . [04:31] another 2gb of swap out of nowhere [04:31] :) [04:32] wish I had known that a couple days ago [04:36] You should not use swapon on a file with holes. <-- what does that mean exactly? [04:36] son of a [04:36] Scottish cuisine is the specific set of cooking traditions and practices associated with Scotland. It shares much with English cuisine, but has distinctive attributes and recipes of its own. Traditional Scottish dishes such as haggis and shortbread exist alongside international foodstuffs brought about by migration. Scotland is known for the high quality of its beef, lamb, potatoes, oats, and sea foods. In addition to foodstuffs, Scotland [04:36] produces a variety of whiskies. [04:36] er oops [04:36] Cannot write to `./tmpfs/it/Redazione/www.splinder.com/search/profile?from=96&loc2=FERMO' (No space left on device). [04:37] I've had a hell of a time iwth these huge profiles [04:37] very low success rate :( [04:37] dnova, it should still work [04:37] PatC: I was just reading the manfile and I didn't understand that line [04:37] oh! [04:38] manpage [04:38] dnova: a hole is a part of a file that doesn't actually have any space allocated for it [04:38] used when building sparse files (for e.g. VM filesystems) [04:38] oh ok [04:39] Total wall clock time: 1d 8h 30m 54s [04:39] arrgh [04:39] Downloaded: 57325 files, 908M in 2h 38m 17s (97.9 KB/s) [04:39] SO MUCH WASTED TIME [04:39] I just lost 10 gigabytes. [04:39] ouch [04:39] >.< [04:49] good news, the fanfic guys have a repo for their project under merc hg clone https://code.google.com/p/fanficdownloader/ [04:50] for fanficdownloader, just a thought [04:50] i thought that was weird : ( [05:07] bsmith094: wiki [05:09] what about it [05:10] WIIIKKIIIIIII [05:12] MORE WIKI [05:12] I got a fever [05:13] and the only prescription is [05:13] more wiki [05:13] MORE WIKI [05:13] GUESS WHAT... I HAVE A FEVER... AND THE ONLY... PRESCRIPTION... IS MORE WIKI [05:13] http://www.weebls-stuff.com/testy/cowbell.swf [05:13] more _wiki_ [05:14] alright already, but i havent really made much prgress in the actual grab yet [05:14] more *download* [05:14] sseroiusly doe anyone here speak python [05:14] I'm no snake charmer [05:14] sssSSSssss [05:15] theres a repo in mercurial for the project im using, an it could use a fork and active development [05:15] SketchCow: do you need people for the sf op that can carry stuff or more people that have vans/trucks/etc? [05:15] haha [05:15] http://www.morecowbell.dj/ [05:15] about that im just curious, are you talking cabinets and chairs, or just tech stuff? [05:15] seriously [05:16] rent a box truck for a day? [05:16] hg clone https://code.google.com/p/fanficdownloader/ [05:17] http://www.weebls-stuff.com/flash/patrick.swf [05:17] bsmith094: i'm wondering that too [05:18] bsmith094: you look over pythonthehardway? [05:18] yes [05:24] it was some help in readig the code [05:25] I know that they're doing good job [05:25] I'm going to do pythonthehardway fully sometime soon [05:26] hmm [05:52] seriously if someone could look over thaat and fix the bugs it would be perfect [08:08] ugh [08:08] I just ran across a website that links to files on mediafire via the adf.ly url shortener [08:09] Coderjoe: are you familiar with jdownloader? [08:09] can't say I am [08:10] Coderjoe: http://jdownloader.org [08:10] cross platform (linux, mac, windows) download manager. supports sites like rapidshare, megaupload, etc but also youtube, vimeo, etc. autoupdates itself also. [08:11] beh [08:11] it can bypass some captchas but not all [08:11] Coderjoe: That's really lame, hehe [08:12] arrith: I'm not hitting captchas. I'm annoyed that someone is trying to make money off content they didn't ultimately create and aren't hosting using some crappy ad-serving url shortener that I don't see ads on, but still have to wait until a timer counts down. [08:14] Coderjoe: well jdownloader can load up shortened urls and will go through them until mediafire or w/e hoster it is is found. then for sites like mediafire jd will wait for you and download whenever it's ready. [08:14] so you can queue up a few hundred dls, go to sleep, and they'll be done when you come back [08:14] adf.ly has a javascript timer that then switches to a "skip ad" link. [08:14] if your goal is to dl them. if your goal is just to get deobfuscated links then jd isn't the tool [08:15] oh [08:15] so you're not trying to dl them? [08:15] I don't know if it auto-redirects after some point in time [08:15] I am trying to download them, but there are only 4 items [08:15] ah [08:15] and I don't care to install a bulky java download manager [08:15] according to the JD forums, adf.ly should work [08:15] heh, yeah it is pretty heavy [08:16] it's java. of course it is heavy [08:17] psh :P [08:17] it works [08:17] with *only* 300MB of ram :P [08:17] with nothing else running :P [08:18] (and yes, I a poking fun at the fact that java programs are notorious for being slow memory hogs) [08:27] URL shorteners suck regardless [08:35] Coderjoe: yeah, i make no excuses for java's clientside issues. but JD does work very well for large batches of oneclick/ddl sites and video sites [08:52] jdownloader succeeds in spite of its language [08:55] i don't know for sure but i think a large part of its high quality cross-platform support is due to being based on java. the only other app i know of like that is firefox and they do a lot of work on the xul stuf [09:20] oh, speaking of cowbell: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evA-R9OS-Vo [09:49] morning... [09:51] I saw that the archiveteam does a bit of twaudio archiving... [09:52] i'm searching for my own audios.... [09:52] these two... any ideas? http://twaud.io/sJY http://twaud.io/q3r9 [09:52] tnx. for help [10:18] noone here? [10:18] hi [10:18] I'm not noone, but I'm here. [10:19] phew.. I thought I was alone ;) [10:19] heh [10:19] looking for someone who can help me with some old twaudio links *my own* [10:20] all of twaud.io is here: http://www.archive.org/details/twaudio-collection-2011 [10:20] but I can't download that much... [10:20] :/ [10:20] if it got saved, it's listed in the file twaudio.2011.06.txt [10:20] not really... [10:21] what was your username on twaud.io? [10:22] dh1jc [10:22] you saw the short urls i posted above.. [10:22] ah, yes [10:22] (i think i only had those two audios) [10:22] I don't see either of those in the manifest :| [10:22] damn. one is posted dez. 2009 the other around dez 2010... i guess. [10:23] so that mean's it wasn't archived... [10:23] oh noez [10:23] ok, nothing important ... [10:23] hold on, there's another item. [10:24] not listed in that one either [10:24] mkay. [10:24] sorry mate [10:25] so then my two files were just not archived. right?! [10:25] so it seems [10:25] ok no worries. tnx man. [10:27] bbye... [10:41] poor guy ;/ [12:29] yipdw: have you determined if anything will be lost (if it isn't archived) when BerliOS switches to the nonprofit method of operation from Fraunhofer? [12:41] #musicateam a channel for free music websites [12:42] woot [12:44] go go go [17:12] arrith: I don't know; closure's the better person [17:12] arrith: although I'd be surprised if any of us know an answer for that [17:18] yipdw: i looked at the archives of the mailing list they setup for the transition but afaics it's all in german [17:18] and i don't know german [17:28] i do [17:28] based on google translate, they have between a few and 20 people involved, and are working on the basics of incorporating a nonprofit. [17:28] cautiously optimistic [17:29] http://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/berlios-verein/2011-November/thread.html [17:29] someone that knows german well enough to query them on their transition process and if they anticipate any data loss would be good [17:30] * arrith pokes Schbirid [17:30] it looks good [17:30] Thanks. [17:30] http://www.heise.de/open/meldung/Rettung-fuer-OSS-Repository-BerliOS-in-Sicht-1369176.html says the institution will keep the current infrastructure alive for them [17:31] but will not invest in growth [17:31] they will not pay people [17:31] so thus they form a non-profit [17:32] should be fine [17:32] Wyatt: did you ever upload your berlios chunk? [17:46] closure: Yeah, 08 and 09b were both uploaded to batcave on Sunday [17:46] (A week later than intended due to surprise security apocalypse. Sorry about that.) [17:50] yay, security apocalypses [17:53] yay [17:59] security apocalypse: security measures prevent users from doing work, security processes subverted from within? [18:02] The new guy's password never got randomised for reasons I've not yet been informed of. So it was the same as his user name. His username is a concatenation of his given name's first initial and last name. It forms a dictionary word. We don't have any pentesting or offensive security in practice in place (yet). [18:02] ouch [18:02] pwnd [18:04] Yeah, it was pretty bad (but it gave me an entire work week away from dealing with tickets and full license to explicitly lay out just how bad our current security policy is). [18:05] (My boss-once-removed declared it to be the worst day of my life when I came in on Saturday. I have no idea what he was talking about; I enjoyed it thoroughly.) [18:06] yum [18:44] woo, uploading on the work pipe is so much nicer [18:44] uploading doug winger's turn [18:45] SketchCow: in case you're there, or anyone for that matter … anyone aware of any UNIX v6 tapes that aren't in TUHS? [18:45] intact tape or disk images, not extracted files [20:12] Wyatt: haha, awesome [20:46] can you open this? gopher://gopher.igc.apc.org/00/peace/yugo/crimes/tr/11 [20:52] wow. gopher. haven't seen one of those links in years [20:52] and xchat doesn't even recognize it as a url [20:52] aaaand... firefox doesn't do gopher [20:53] nor does chrome, but that redirects me to a search [20:53] (scumbag chrome) [20:55] ooh [20:55] OverbiteFF adds a lot of legacy schemes [20:55] lynx does gopher [20:56] i wonder... does anything still do archie? [20:56] and I wonder if there are any archie archives out there [20:56] Looking up gopher.igc.apc.org [20:56] Alert!: Unable to access document. [20:56] Can't Access `gopher://gopher.igc.apc.org/00/peace/yugo/crimes/tr/11' [20:56] Making gopher connection to gopher.igc.apc.org [20:56] tired, unable to find that the software developers shouldn't stateful [21:01] that gopher link contained a list of destroyed monuments during bosnian war [21:03] curl: (7) couldn't connect to host [21:07] port 70 is coming back as "filtered" [21:11] probably the gopher server was removed long time ago [21:13] well, then it would usually come back as "closed". filtered means connection attempts are being dropped rather than rejected [21:41] http://imgur.com/a/PrLrB [21:55] Coderjoe: what was the point of that album? [21:57] those were private photos of zuckerberg that were obtained due to a flaw in the security of private photos on facebook [22:06] imgur is surprisingly a pain in the ass to wget [22:07] or maybe the build on my phone doesn't work right [22:07] imgur is full of js [22:09] "We would never do anything bad or malicous with our JavaScript" [22:09] unfortunately, we can't spell for shit [22:09] well, DownThemAll! seems to work okay [22:10] it seems to be getting to the point where archiving web pages is going to need to wrap Selenium or some shit [22:11] actually, never mind; that already happened with Google Video [22:11] is going to need what? [22:12] selenium is a kit, designed for doing unit testing type things on web pages, which can drive full web browsers [22:12] ah [22:12] (I caught a talk about it at a barcamp this year) [22:12] yeah [22:12] except I wouldn't call it unit testing :P [22:57] the main thing that bugs me about imgur is their robots.txt blocks the wayback machine [23:29] did you guys see this blog post from the man behind pinboard? http://blog.pinboard.in/2011/12/don_t_be_a_free_user/ [23:31] I keep forgetting that pinboard.in is where the idlewords guy blogs now, and worth reading. [23:33] WOO HOOO [23:33] EVERYTHING2 WANTS THE INTERNET ARCHIVE GONE [23:33] Result: Yes, will no longer be browsable, just stored [23:34] Will keep the archiveteam.org copy [23:34] so they prefer to disappear into the void? [23:34] man, I used to know those e2 guys. they lurked over in the dark room. seemed nice enough. sigh. [23:37] I guess so. [23:37] But don't worry, it's saved for later generations. [23:42] a while ago, someone asked about saving a copy of Coming Soon (www.csoon.com)- I did a wget-warc of it, and I'd like to make sure my wget command is fine, and if it is, upload my copy of the site [23:48] OK [23:48] Bring it here, and of course you can always jam it in the slot./ [23:49] HE SAID [23:57] here's the wget command: http://pastebin.com/6gBmvtxn and if you have somewhere to upload to, I'll upload it