| Time |
Nickname |
Message |
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00:49
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dnova |
sad about emulator-zone |
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00:50
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balrog |
atari are assholes |
|
00:51
🔗
|
balrog |
well, "Atari" |
|
00:52
🔗
|
dnova |
"Atari" indeed. |
|
00:55
🔗
|
godane |
i think i can burn 4.6 Gbyte to dvd |
|
00:55
🔗
|
godane |
normally its 4.4GB |
|
00:56
🔗
|
godane |
i have a md5sum file so i can check if everything is there on disc after burning |
|
00:56
🔗
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dnova |
I can burn like |
|
00:56
🔗
|
dnova |
I dunno 20gb to a dvd |
|
00:56
🔗
|
dnova |
if it is highly compressible data and I have enough time for bzip |
|
00:57
🔗
|
godane |
i'm doing video |
|
00:57
🔗
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dnova |
so just overburning? |
|
00:57
🔗
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chronomex |
dd if=/dev/zero bs=1M count=1M | lzop | gzip | gzip |
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00:57
🔗
|
chronomex |
1 terabyte => few hundred kbyte |
|
00:57
🔗
|
dnova |
hehe |
|
00:57
🔗
|
PatC |
lol |
|
00:57
🔗
|
godane |
i'm using recorder |
|
00:58
🔗
|
godane |
a pygtk front end for command line tools |
|
00:58
🔗
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PatC |
chronomex, I assume your joking |
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00:58
🔗
|
chronomex |
it's 100% true |
|
00:58
🔗
|
chronomex |
why would I make this up? |
|
00:58
🔗
|
PatC |
i'm pretty sure /dev/zero = 0 <_< |
|
00:59
🔗
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chronomex |
yeah? |
|
00:59
🔗
|
chronomex |
try it |
|
00:59
🔗
|
chronomex |
I can put a terabyte of data on a floppy disk! |
|
00:59
🔗
|
dnova |
that's hilarious |
|
01:01
🔗
|
dnova |
I remember fake compressions programs on bbses in the 90s |
|
01:02
🔗
|
dnova |
any amount of data down to 50 bytes!!!! |
|
01:03
🔗
|
godane |
burning 40-53 of systm |
|
01:04
🔗
|
godane |
hd version |
|
01:05
🔗
|
Coderjoe |
bzip2 would do really well on large quantities of nulls, but only because of a historical mistake |
|
01:05
🔗
|
balrog |
oh? |
|
01:05
🔗
|
Coderjoe |
the first stage is an RLE compressor |
|
01:06
🔗
|
Coderjoe |
can take 256 of the same byte down to 5 bytes |
|
01:06
🔗
|
Coderjoe |
and the 900k buffer is after that RLE |
|
01:06
🔗
|
Famicoman |
reminds me of those fake hard drives that write in continuous mode |
|
01:07
🔗
|
chronomex |
well there's a milestone. I hit 1000 tasks on archive.org |
|
01:07
🔗
|
PatC |
lol Famicoman |
|
01:08
🔗
|
dnova |
I've never seen that techique on mechanical hard drives, but usb flash drives and flash memory cards yes |
|
01:09
🔗
|
dnova |
ebay is littered with them |
|
01:27
🔗
|
godane |
i'm only getting the large version of systm at and after episode 66 |
|
01:59
🔗
|
BlueMax |
Bloody Atari |
|
03:03
🔗
|
dashcloud |
not sure how many of you follow Carl Malamud, but he's got an interesting petition up here: https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/!/petition/start-national-effort-digitize-all-public-government-info/15vthgVB |
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06:19
🔗
|
soultcer |
SketchCow: I don't know if you already know, but your blog's RSS/atom feeds are broken again :-/ |
|
06:31
🔗
|
soultcer |
(Or is the 403 forbidden for certain user-agents deliberately there to stop spammers?) |
|
16:10
🔗
|
Coderjoe |
"There are no more posts to show right now." |
|
16:10
🔗
|
Coderjoe |
yes, because nothing exists before 6:30pm tuesday |
|
18:18
🔗
|
gui77 |
hey |
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18:19
🔗
|
gui77 |
if i've only got, say 100gb of disk space and an ok home connection (without a data cap), can i still be useful? |
|
18:19
🔗
|
gui77 |
i do have a fairly powerful computer which i leave on 24/7, so i can compress stuff before upping |
|
18:20
🔗
|
chronomex |
yes! |
|
18:22
🔗
|
gui77 |
great :D |
|
18:22
🔗
|
gui77 |
i'm curious about one thing though |
|
18:23
🔗
|
gui77 |
typically volunteers downloads stuff, and then re-upload it to some server. why not just have the server do all the downloading? is it to have the data backed up sooner/for redundancy or something of the sort? |
|
18:23
🔗
|
gui77 |
or so sites don't block that server for too much access? |
|
18:24
🔗
|
dnova |
sometimes the big iron helps directly. |
|
18:25
🔗
|
dnova |
but there are lots of advantages (and some disadvantages) to making a huge distributed effort. |
|
18:28
🔗
|
gui77 |
oki |
|
18:28
🔗
|
gui77 |
i'm going to try and get something for mobilme setup as it seems splinder is done already :) |
|
18:29
🔗
|
Coderjoe |
you do have a non-windows OS on that system, right? |
|
18:29
🔗
|
gui77 |
yeah |
|
18:29
🔗
|
gui77 |
i have an ubuntu-based linux distro |
|
18:29
🔗
|
Coderjoe |
(windows unfortunately has some stupid filesystem limitations) |
|
18:29
🔗
|
Coderjoe |
ok |
|
18:39
🔗
|
Schbirid |
"(I/O Error: None: None)" <3 |
|
19:10
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Poor blog. |
|
19:10
🔗
|
SketchCow |
I should write that detector of mine. |
|
19:11
🔗
|
chronomex |
broken blog detector? |
|
19:13
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Yeah |
|
19:13
🔗
|
SketchCow |
I should do a few things with the blog, really. |
|
19:13
🔗
|
SketchCow |
To shore that up. |
|
19:13
🔗
|
SketchCow |
But my Jamendo nightmare is nearly over. |
|
19:13
🔗
|
SketchCow |
The load-in of 55,000+ albums. |
|
19:14
🔗
|
SketchCow |
16010 pts/26 S+ 0:00 /bin/sh ./whoopdedo [088897] Fallback - Bad Signal -- Jamendo - MP3 - 2011.04.08 [www.jamendo.com].zip |
|
19:14
🔗
|
SketchCow |
16063 pts/17 S+ 0:00 /bin/sh ./whoopdedo [084930] d27m - because of an handful of stupid humans -- Jamendo - MP3 - 2011.02.05 [www.jamendo.com].zip |
|
19:14
🔗
|
SketchCow |
16119 pts/37 S+ 0:00 /bin/sh ./whoopdedo [097783] Monster-Kill - Vulturous (Single) -- Jamendo - MP3 - 2011.09.01 [www.jamendo.com].zip |
|
19:14
🔗
|
SketchCow |
17083 pts/22 S+ 0:00 /bin/sh ./whoopdedo [101246] AlecsRims - Stereotypes -- Jamendo - MP3 - 2011.11.01 [www.jamendo.com].zip |
|
19:14
🔗
|
SketchCow |
See, four threads. |
|
19:14
🔗
|
SketchCow |
As they each hit 0XX999, they're done. |
|
19:14
🔗
|
chronomex |
I see. |
|
19:15
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Then I'll have them up to 101999. |
|
19:15
🔗
|
SketchCow |
102XXX now exists, but it's not full yet. |
|
19:15
🔗
|
SketchCow |
When it is, I can run a script. |
|
19:17
🔗
|
Schbirid |
remember to back fill older IDs |
|
19:17
🔗
|
Schbirid |
any plans to handle updates? artists sometimes change their albums |
|
19:19
🔗
|
SketchCow |
All the older IDs should be there. |
|
19:19
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Any that are around. |
|
19:20
🔗
|
SketchCow |
No, I doubt I will handle updates at all - it's a snapshot. Unless there's an efficient way to write a script to do that work. |
|
19:20
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Just like there was a way to write a script to do the initial check. |
|
19:20
🔗
|
Schbirid |
older IDs might not yet be published publically |
|
19:20
🔗
|
Schbirid |
ah ok |
|
19:20
🔗
|
gui77 |
what filesystem do you guys recommend that i use for a aprtition that'll only be used for these kinds ofprojects? ext2, ext3, ext4? |
|
19:20
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Older IDs? I have IDs in there from 2008 and 2009. They couldn't possibly still be waiting, could they? |
|
19:21
🔗
|
SketchCow |
gui77: ext2 or thereabouts |
|
19:21
🔗
|
Schbirid |
SketchCow: you never know. but people definitely change their albums, less than 1% of them, but still |
|
19:23
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Edge cases are always welcome. |
|
19:23
🔗
|
SketchCow |
I'm going to write something to step through what's on there and make sure everything's kosher, of course. |
|
19:23
🔗
|
SketchCow |
But that's different. |
|
19:23
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Depends on how crazy we want to go. |
|
19:25
🔗
|
SketchCow |
> x-archive-meta-title:Tokks Voitto - Oblivious to assisting mankind addicted to breed the starving hunter writing his reason on a blood sheet |
|
19:25
🔗
|
SketchCow |
I have a weird job. |
|
19:26
🔗
|
Schbirid |
:) |
|
19:28
🔗
|
SketchCow |
I'm almost done with it, that's what matters. |
|
19:28
🔗
|
SketchCow |
It was 1.8 terabytes of data. |
|
19:30
🔗
|
SketchCow |
I'm down to the last, like, 15g |
|
19:36
🔗
|
gui77 |
after running get-wget-warc, is it already compiled or do i still need to com'pile it? |
|
19:36
🔗
|
gui77 |
*compile |
|
19:38
🔗
|
gui77 |
nevermind, i did it |
|
19:41
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Archive Team helps those who help themselves |
|
19:43
🔗
|
SketchCow |
OK, I'm actually going to slam those last 300 albums in, just to be complete. |
|
19:51
🔗
|
gui77 |
i'm running like 7 instances and the speed seems to go between very little (200 kB/s) to maxing out my pipe. this is normal, right? any tips? :) |
|
19:52
🔗
|
gui77 |
oh and what happens if/when it runs out of space? does it just quit gracefully? |
|
19:54
🔗
|
gui77 |
oh and is there a way of running multiple instances quickly/easily, without having open up a term for each? |
|
19:54
🔗
|
gui77 |
sorry for all teh questions hehe :/ |
|
19:55
🔗
|
chronomex |
gui77: ext4 or jfs is what I use normally. |
|
19:55
🔗
|
gui77 |
chronomex: yeah i decided with ext4 :) |
|
19:55
🔗
|
chronomex |
jfs, though a bit slow, is stable as bedrock |
|
19:56
🔗
|
gui77 |
i'm using ext4 for the rest of my partitions so i might as well use it for this one, haven't had an issue yet |
|
19:56
🔗
|
PatC |
anyone know when 28c3 ends? |
|
20:00
🔗
|
Schbirid |
tomorrow |
|
20:00
🔗
|
Schbirid |
~15 hours |
|
20:01
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Yeah |
|
20:01
🔗
|
SketchCow |
They're putting up preliminary cuts of the talks, which is also amazing. |
|
20:01
🔗
|
Schbirid |
http://events.ccc.de/congress/2011/Fahrplan/events/4814.en.html is in 45 minutes, should be great |
|
20:02
🔗
|
Schbirid |
"Behind the scenes of a C64 demo" |
|
20:02
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Yes, I tweeted about that. |
|
20:02
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Obviously it's relevant to my interests. |
|
20:10
🔗
|
DarkStar2 |
ah, the good old C64 demoscene days. When you couldn't just throw polygons at the hardware and have a few billion transistors do the maths for you... You know you're old when you remember what DYCP, DYPP, FLI, etc. mean :-D |
|
20:11
🔗
|
Schbirid |
get your rocking chair off my lawn, grampa |
|
20:11
🔗
|
PatC |
SketchCow, 28c3 will be on archive.org then? |
|
20:11
🔗
|
Schbirid |
sure |
|
20:14
🔗
|
SketchCow |
A lot is going to be on archive.org. |
|
20:14
🔗
|
SketchCow |
But they also have their stuff up very well. |
|
20:15
🔗
|
SketchCow |
A project for next year is pulling in every conference that makes its videos available, ever. |
|
20:15
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Won't that be exciting. |
|
20:15
🔗
|
Schbirid |
<3 |
|
20:15
🔗
|
Schbirid |
and audio recordings too i hope |
|
20:15
🔗
|
Schbirid |
the HOPE conferences only have that iirc |
|
20:26
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Yeah, everything. |
|
20:26
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Every. Thing. |
|
20:26
🔗
|
SketchCow |
http://www.archive.org/details/hackercons is the first test run-through. |
|
20:26
🔗
|
SketchCow |
It'll be many more soon. |
|
20:27
🔗
|
chronomex |
I'll see if I can get you the full quuality HOPE archives |
|
20:27
🔗
|
gui77 |
SketchCow: is it possible to start uploading stuff while still downloading more? |
|
20:29
🔗
|
gui77 |
what do i do if one of the instances presents an error? Running wget --mirror (at least 1064 files)... ERROR (4). |
|
20:29
🔗
|
SketchCow |
I need more detail gui. But first, a VERY fast food run so I can watch the demo |
|
20:30
🔗
|
gui77 |
cool feel free, /query me whenever you have time :) |
|
20:32
🔗
|
PatC |
chronomex, which HOPE archives? |
|
20:32
🔗
|
PatC |
chronomex, if it's 2010 I have it too |
|
20:33
🔗
|
PatC |
and I have the pcap file |
|
20:40
🔗
|
chronomex |
all of em |
|
20:40
🔗
|
chronomex |
stack of dvds a foot high |
|
20:42
🔗
|
Schbirid |
"Behind the scenes of a C64 demo" starting right now, "Saal 3". streaming URLs: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=MfvqjZvc |
|
20:42
🔗
|
Schbirid |
err "Room3" ;) |
|
20:46
🔗
|
Coderjoe |
or even the old DOS demoscene. again where you couldn't just throw polygons at the hardware |
|
20:47
🔗
|
Coderjoe |
kinda miss those.. quite impressive |
|
20:47
🔗
|
Coderjoe |
though some of the content of some of the 64k demos are still rather impressive |
|
20:47
🔗
|
DarkStar2 |
it was Second Reality that got me hooked to the PC demoscene |
|
20:47
🔗
|
chronomex |
you want a return to the olden days? |
|
20:48
🔗
|
chronomex |
join the calculator hacking community! |
|
20:48
🔗
|
chronomex |
http://www.ticalc.org/ , /join #ti |
|
20:48
🔗
|
PatC |
chronomex, let me know if you upload them anywhere |
|
20:48
🔗
|
chronomex |
dunno if it'll happen |
|
20:48
🔗
|
PatC |
ok |
|
20:48
🔗
|
chronomex |
also #cemetech |
|
20:48
🔗
|
Coderjoe |
bah |
|
20:49
🔗
|
Coderjoe |
I was hacking on TI calcs 10 years ago |
|
20:49
🔗
|
Coderjoe |
get off my lawn |
|
20:49
🔗
|
chronomex |
so was I |
|
20:49
🔗
|
chronomex |
fucker that's my lawn too |
|
20:49
🔗
|
chronomex |
public park |
|
20:50
🔗
|
SketchCow |
I'm going to wait for you old men to die and I will fuck your skulls |
|
20:50
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Now watch the talk |
|
20:50
🔗
|
chronomex |
NO |
|
20:51
🔗
|
SketchCow |
He's streaming the demo |
|
20:51
🔗
|
SketchCow |
DEMO IN EFFECT |
|
20:51
🔗
|
SketchCow |
AMMMIIIIIGGGAAAAA |
|
20:51
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Pants off |
|
20:51
🔗
|
chronomex |
fap fap fap |
|
20:53
🔗
|
PatC |
That demo is awesome |
|
20:53
🔗
|
SketchCow |
They're using an emulator, points off |
|
20:53
🔗
|
PatC |
^ |
|
20:53
🔗
|
* |
PatC fires up his c64 and 1541 drive |
|
20:53
🔗
|
SketchCow |
C64 - VGA in... NOT A PROBLEM |
|
20:53
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Come in early |
|
20:54
🔗
|
SketchCow |
At blockparty, we did what we needed to do to bring stuff off a Colecovision |
|
20:54
🔗
|
DarkStar2 |
I think I still have the disk with the C64 port of the Second Reality Demo lying around here somewhere... I'm curious how it wuold look on my big TV :) |
|
20:54
🔗
|
PatC |
SketchCow, I have a coleco telstar colortron |
|
20:55
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Man, I am so fucking glad we've cleaned this NYC apartment |
|
20:55
🔗
|
DarkStar2 |
btw. there's a demoscene party at the moment here in Germany as well... "The Ultimate Meeting". I guess there will be some interesting releases from there as well |
|
20:55
🔗
|
SketchCow |
We have so much space |
|
20:55
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Yeah, I cruise pouet |
|
20:56
🔗
|
gui77 |
what happens if you're running multiple instances of the mobileme wget-warc and then run touch stop? |
|
20:57
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Someone needs to answer you who are not me. |
|
20:57
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Ha ha "Only a few illegal opcodes are useful, but they should be used." |
|
20:57
🔗
|
chronomex |
gui77: it stops eventually |
|
20:57
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Breaking news, there. |
|
20:57
🔗
|
gui77 |
i'm in no hurry for an answer :p |
|
20:57
🔗
|
PatC |
:p |
|
20:57
🔗
|
DarkStar2 |
yeah, self-modifying code |
|
20:57
🔗
|
SketchCow |
This guy's going to quickly go from A to a B |
|
20:58
🔗
|
DarkStar2 |
...evil to debug |
|
20:58
🔗
|
gui77 |
chronomex: but does it stop all instances? or just 1? if 1, which? |
|
20:58
🔗
|
SketchCow |
self-modifying code - can't do without |
|
20:58
🔗
|
chronomex |
DarkStar2: tricky to write, trickier to fix |
|
20:58
🔗
|
DarkStar2 |
true |
|
20:58
🔗
|
chronomex |
gui77: all of em that are running from that directory |
|
20:58
🔗
|
DarkStar2 |
ah, that reminds me... |
|
20:58
🔗
|
chronomex |
"if it was hard to write it should be hard to read!" |
|
20:58
🔗
|
gui77 |
chronomex: ah ok thanks :) |
|
20:59
🔗
|
Dark_Star |
3 registers, 256 bytes stack, one interrupt... amazing what you can still create with such limited resources |
|
20:59
🔗
|
chronomex |
that's tiny |
|
21:00
🔗
|
chronomex |
msp430's tiniest chip is luxury compared to that |
|
21:00
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Oh boy, here comes a spammer on archiveteam.org. |
|
21:00
🔗
|
PatC |
uh oh... |
|
21:00
🔗
|
PatC |
SketchCow, where in the site? |
|
21:01
🔗
|
SketchCow |
User pages. |
|
21:01
🔗
|
Dark_Star |
whoa, that's really eeevil coding :) |
|
21:02
🔗
|
Dark_Star |
jumping into I/O space... geez, these guys still come up with really crazy ideas |
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21:03
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gui77 |
speaking of spam, how come when googling "archiveteam" the text is an ad for viagra hehe? |
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SketchCow |
You get half a guess, that I will ignore |
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21:04
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chronomex |
The 4 Tenets of Archiveteam: Friendship - Unity - Caring - Kindness |
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SketchCow |
The other reason a C64 demo might look better now than then was because they can use off-machine coding and development tools, then pour them right into the c64. |
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SketchCow |
He's not mentioning that, I don't think he has to, but he's not. |
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Dark_Star |
yes, that's what I thought too |
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Dark_Star |
he talked about using LZ packers on his PC which probably was not possible in the 80s on the C64 itself |
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SketchCow |
Exactly. |
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SketchCow |
Or the girl, who is obviously a convert. |
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SketchCow |
I'm FINE with all this, it's just why it seems to look better. |
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Coderjoe |
wow. wikipedia is currently registered with godaddy. they're apparently transferring away over sopa |
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SketchCow |
Yeah |
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gui77 |
if for some reason (like a system or crash or a connection drop) i don't finish some downloads, does the trackers know that i didn't finish them (so it can assign them to someone else? |
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gui77 |
and should i go find incomplete files/folders and try to delete them so they're not accidentally uploaded, or does the upload script only upload complete ones? |
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gui77 |
i don't want to be supplying corrupted/incomplete data :/ |
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gui77 |
or should i just, without any downloads running, delete any folder with a .incomplete? |
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bsmith093 |
anyone want 2500 appleII disk images? |
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Coderjoe |
bsmith093: of course |
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bsmith093 |
k then uploading to batcave |
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bsmith093 |
fyi i grabbed it as a torrent zip i glanced throu it seems fairly organized |
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bsmith093 |
no obvious warez, plus its only ~400gb |
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Coderjoe |
gui77: the upload script only uploads complete profiles. the tracker (macme?) is told when a profile is completed, so it knows a profile was given out but not completed, but it doesn't know that it isn't still being downloaded |
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bsmith093 |
mostly shk files |
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gui77 |
Coderjoe: how should i correct the situation? |
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bsmith093 |
splinder STILL, how big is that last profile? |