Time |
Nickname |
Message |
00:09
π
|
dashcloud |
have you guys seen this? https://twitter.com/#!/herpderpedia |
00:10
π
|
underscor |
Yeah |
00:10
π
|
underscor |
hahahaha |
00:11
π
|
dashcloud |
the oatmeal's kitten bbq gif is also hilarious |
00:14
π
|
Coderjoe |
there was also this, but he stopped: https://twitter.com/wikipediawtf |
00:23
π
|
Coderjoe |
http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/lamar-smith-sopa-copyright-whoops |
00:28
π
|
NovaKing |
http://techfleece.com/2012/01/18/screenshots-of-sopa-pipa-website-protests/ |
00:35
π
|
yipdw |
man |
00:35
π
|
yipdw |
the news is an echo chamber |
00:39
π
|
NovaKing |
which for us is a good thing i guess |
00:43
π
|
Coderjoe |
"Don't cry. Disney owns the rights to that emotion." |
00:44
π
|
NovaKing |
hehe |
00:44
π
|
Coderjoe |
(old: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvXo4sGB7zM ) |
00:44
π
|
NovaKing |
yeah, i remember it |
00:46
π
|
Coderjoe |
for the news files: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/facebook/facebook-ceo-mark-zuckerberg-talks-sopa-pipa/7600?tag=mantle_skin;content and http://www.facebook.com/zuck/posts/10100210345757211 |
00:51
π
|
dashcloud |
http://s3.amazonaws.com/theoatmeal-img/comics/sopa/sopa.gif - The Oatmeal's kitten bbq anti-sopa gif |
00:54
π
|
PatC |
thats funny |
00:55
π
|
db48x |
cool |
00:55
π
|
db48x |
Firefox default home page is black |
00:55
π
|
db48x |
not non-functional, but black with links to information about SOPA |
00:59
π
|
underscor |
Isn't it just about:home? |
00:59
π
|
db48x |
yes |
01:01
π
|
underscor |
hm, not black here |
01:07
π
|
db48x |
they just changed it, for some reason |
01:08
π
|
underscor |
[8:08:21 PM EDT] Kenji Nagahashi: (wide ingesting speed is approaching 6TB/day...) |
01:09
π
|
underscor |
wide is the crawl that feeds the wayback |
01:17
π
|
db48x |
ah, no |
01:17
π
|
db48x |
they didn't change it |
01:19
π
|
db48x |
it's just that the black out ended at 8pm eastern |
01:20
π
|
db48x |
mere seconds before you loaded the page |
01:21
π
|
chronomex |
fucking easterners |
01:23
π
|
db48x |
heh, yea |
01:23
π
|
db48x |
Mozilla is in PST though |
01:32
π
|
balrog |
SketchCow: you've probably seen this, but: http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/lamar-smith-serial-copyright-violator |
01:32
π
|
balrog |
db48x: I'm in favor of a blackout that lasts until 23:59 everywhere in the world |
01:32
π
|
balrog |
which means, largest possible window |
01:44
π
|
NovaKing |
i think most sites worked off EST |
01:45
π
|
chronomex |
est is for losers |
01:46
π
|
tef |
whee I got half a gig :3 |
01:51
π
|
db48x |
balrog: yea, same here |
01:51
π
|
db48x |
btw, have you guys ever read Eastern Standard Tribe? |
01:52
π
|
chronomex |
yeah, thats a neat story |
01:52
π
|
db48x |
indeed |
01:52
π
|
db48x |
a funny idea behind it too |
01:56
π
|
SketchCow |
Back |
01:56
π
|
SketchCow |
Yeah, it's amazing |
01:57
π
|
SketchCow |
(the Lamar thing) |
02:03
π
|
balrog |
yeah |
02:03
π
|
balrog |
specifically blocking IA |
02:05
π
|
NovaKing |
http://www.reddit.com/r/SOPA/comments/omdac/thanking_those_who_didnt_make_the_news_a_guide_to/ |
02:44
π
|
db48x |
weird |
02:45
π
|
db48x |
I have no sensation of taste or temperature in the left half of my tongue |
03:08
π
|
tef |
SketchCow: I have more complete captures of sites yipdw listed (with a custom tool instead of wget) - how do I send them to you ? |
03:08
π
|
tef |
I also have a shit load of dupes to process first |
03:22
π
|
* |
db48x yawns |
03:22
π
|
db48x |
I need a movie to watch |
03:22
π
|
db48x |
haven't gotten much programming done, alas |
03:22
π
|
db48x |
but I'm calling it a day |
03:54
π
|
* |
lemonkey waves |
03:54
π
|
* |
PatC waves |
03:54
π
|
PatC |
I see myself via irssi |
03:54
π
|
SketchCow |
HALP |
03:54
π
|
lemonkey |
:) |
03:55
π
|
SketchCow |
CHANCE OF PUBLIC INVITE NEXT TIME: 0 |
03:55
π
|
PatC |
heh |
03:55
π
|
lemonkey |
sketchcow: LOL |
03:55
π
|
PatC |
:P |
03:56
π
|
SketchCow |
Yes, this is actually happening. |
03:57
π
|
PatC |
:D |
04:01
π
|
tef |
I almost want to try and make g+ work to see what the fuck is happening |
04:02
π
|
PatC |
Someone just got offtopic |
04:11
π
|
SketchCow |
I just left |
04:12
π
|
db48x |
SketchCow: hey, you're in SF. how long are you sticking around? |
04:13
π
|
SketchCow |
Just to Friday |
04:16
π
|
db48x |
ah, so probably can't take you to dinner on friday night then |
04:16
π
|
SketchCow |
Man, fuck trixter. |
04:16
π
|
SketchCow |
Yeah, busy, sorry |
04:19
π
|
db48x |
well, next time you're here then |
04:19
π
|
SketchCow |
No problem, I'll be back in February AND march |
04:19
π
|
SketchCow |
Going to GDC |
04:19
π
|
db48x |
ah, cool |
04:21
π
|
db48x |
looking forward to seeing anything in particular there? |
04:23
π
|
db48x |
having the left half of my tongue not report taste or temperature is kinda surreal |
04:24
π
|
db48x |
my macaroni and cheese feels both hot and cold |
04:33
π
|
SketchCow |
What is this, some sort of stroke |
04:36
π
|
balrog |
SketchCow: I asked a question before: what do you think are needed default metadata fields in a floppy archival/preservation format? |
04:36
π
|
balrog |
there's probably a page on metadata that has the answer |
04:37
π
|
SketchCow |
https://wiki.ucop.edu/display/Curation/BagIt |
04:38
π
|
db48x |
SketchCow: I hope it's just the ansthesia wearing off |
04:39
π
|
db48x |
(after all, it's just my tongue and not the whole left side of my body :) |
04:39
π
|
SketchCow |
Right |
04:39
π
|
SketchCow |
NUMB ARM |
04:39
π
|
SketchCow |
TELL SHEILA I LOVED HER urk |
04:39
π
|
db48x |
heh |
04:39
π
|
balrog |
hah |
04:40
π
|
SketchCow |
Also: http://www.loc.gov/standards/premis/registry/premis-project_name.php?proj_ID=637 |
04:42
π
|
SketchCow |
What you will find is there's standards floating around and everyone is not done with them and everyone's a fucking wimp and they all drag in the mud for years. |
04:43
π
|
SketchCow |
OK, I'm heading home. Got a lot done but never enough. |
04:43
π
|
balrog |
BagIt seems usable |
04:43
π
|
SketchCow |
That guy, holy shit, he wiped me out. |
04:43
π
|
balrog |
oh? |
04:47
π
|
yipdw |
SketchCow: just as an FYI, pre-blackout news stories are being uploaded to my module under batcave; the rest + an index are coming shortly |
04:47
π
|
yipdw |
SketchCow: also, if you haven't already gotten tef upload access, his archives of some blackout pages are likely more complete than mine due to Javascript fuckery that I couldn't get wget to properly handle |
04:48
π
|
yipdw |
also for shits and giggles I want to put all this stuff into a torrent and link it off TPB |
04:54
π
|
yipdw |
also |
04:54
π
|
yipdw |
http://questionablecontent.net/ |
06:45
π
|
arrith |
yipdw: zombo.com has a sopa thing |
13:23
π
|
arrith |
yipdw: also maddox xmission |
14:28
π
|
tef |
yipdw: I can always just send you the warcs eh |
14:37
π
|
tef |
yipdw: also I think I have screenshots of the sites on the list |
15:58
π
|
altlabel |
hi everybody |
16:00
π
|
altlabel |
Am I in time to help for splinder ? |
16:47
π
|
db48x |
altlabel: splinder is basically done |
16:48
π
|
db48x |
but there are other projects we'd be happy to have help with |
16:50
π
|
altlabel |
db48x: oh, I see. Sorry I arrived late, I managed to get some free disk-space just yesterday night :) |
16:50
π
|
db48x |
:) |
16:50
π
|
db48x |
if you've got plenty of disk space, then the MobileMe project needs downloaders |
16:50
π
|
altlabel |
I'd be happy to help |
16:50
π
|
db48x |
http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=MobileMe |
19:43
π
|
yipdw |
heh |
19:44
π
|
yipdw |
of these news stories, I am finding that if we be incredibly generous and assume that ALL of the HTML in the news page itself is news content |
19:45
π
|
yipdw |
it still only comes out to like 3% of the size of a WARC of said story |
19:45
π
|
yipdw |
the rest is Javascript, HTML, and aids |
19:45
π
|
yipdw |
er |
19:45
π
|
yipdw |
ads |
19:45
π
|
yipdw |
and s/HTML, // |
19:45
π
|
underscor |
AIDS |
19:45
π
|
underscor |
AIIIIIIIDS |
19:45
π
|
underscor |
lol |
19:50
π
|
underscor |
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/01/19/feds-shut-down-file-sharing-website/ |
19:50
π
|
underscor |
shit shit shit shit shit |
19:50
π
|
underscor |
Too bad we didn't archive it |
19:51
π
|
Schbirid |
ooooh http://www.hopenumbernine.net/ |
19:51
π
|
Schbirid |
oh crap :( |
19:51
π
|
Schbirid |
kimble, noooo |
19:58
π
|
Schbirid |
non fox http://online.wsj.com/article_email/SB10001424052970204616504577171060611948408-lMyQjAxMTAyMDEwOTExNDkyWj.html |
19:58
π
|
yipdw |
wait, really? |
19:58
π
|
yipdw |
I just accessed megaupload yesterdayt |
19:59
π
|
yipdw |
oh |
19:59
π
|
yipdw |
but they shut it down today |
19:59
π
|
yipdw |
I GUESS THE FEDS HAVE MY IP |
19:59
π
|
yipdw |
UH OH |
19:59
π
|
Schbirid |
minutes ago |
19:59
π
|
Schbirid |
nah |
19:59
π
|
yipdw |
yeah I don't really acre |
19:59
π
|
yipdw |
care |
19:59
π
|
Schbirid |
i do |
19:59
π
|
Schbirid |
that site was fast and nice |
20:00
π
|
Schbirid |
even though kimble is kind of a weirdo |
20:00
π
|
yipdw |
I meant about the Feds having my IP |
20:02
π
|
Schbirid |
127.0.0.1 |
20:10
π
|
underscor |
What I don't get is that they're a hong kong company |
20:10
π
|
underscor |
How does that work?????? |
20:19
π
|
Ymgve |
Some people were arrested in New Zealand apparently? |
20:19
π
|
tef |
oh shit man |
20:36
π
|
SketchCow |
https://gist.github.com/1641705 |
20:36
π
|
SketchCow |
B R I L L I A N T |
20:49
π
|
underscor |
That is excellent |
20:51
π
|
Schbirid |
! |
20:51
π
|
DFJustin |
hmm wayback can't archive gist because it always redirects to https |
21:21
π
|
yipdw |
DFJustin: just git clone it |
21:29
π
|
underscor |
lol |
21:31
π
|
chronomex |
ahahahaha nice |
21:41
π
|
closure |
wayback can't access https only sites? |
21:44
π
|
marceloan |
Megaupload was closed O.O |
21:46
π
|
DFJustin |
as far as I can tell it doesn't do https at all |
21:47
π
|
underscor |
Yeah |
21:48
π
|
underscor |
What I don't get is how they can do that when they're a hong kong company? |
21:48
π
|
underscor |
I mean, I guess they can seize the servers that are in the USA, but they had some in NL and other places |
21:48
π
|
marceloan |
USA thinks they are "the best" |
21:48
π
|
underscor |
I guess NZ complied with the extradition request too |
21:48
π
|
marceloan |
The images server is still online |
21:49
π
|
DFJustin |
"Federal agents and other law enforcement agencies simultaneously moved to search bank records and server farms in multiple locations around the globe, authorities said." |
21:49
π
|
marceloan |
http://wwwstatic.megaupload.com/muimg/logo.gif |
21:49
π
|
DFJustin |
so they called their buddies elsewhere and said "hey shut this down on your end too kthx" |
21:50
π
|
DFJustin |
well now that's a poor show http://wwwstatic.megaupload.com/robots.txt |
21:50
π
|
marceloan |
:( |
21:51
π
|
underscor |
:( |
21:51
π
|
underscor |
I like the US less and less every day |
21:51
π
|
underscor |
<PlastikMann> they actually expect people to believe that they would be making $500 million MORE if it weren't for megaupload??? |
21:51
π
|
underscor |
I hate the lost sales arguement |
21:51
π
|
underscor |
argument* |
21:51
π
|
underscor |
>:| |
21:52
π
|
marceloan |
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:BUzX5jpdk8cJ:megaupload.com/+Megaupload&cd=2&hl=pt-BR&ct=clnk&gl=br |
21:55
π
|
DFJustin |
so it seems like downloading as much as possible from mediafire, rapidshare, etc would be a good idea |
21:56
π
|
NovaKing |
it appears so |
21:56
π
|
NovaKing |
i wonder if bayfiles will get bigger |
21:56
π
|
marceloan |
Yes, |
21:57
π
|
underscor |
Thing about downloading mediafire/rapidshare/etc is that there's a pretty good chance you'll end up with illegal content |
21:57
π
|
underscor |
D: |
21:57
π
|
marceloan |
Welcome to the World War III |
21:58
π
|
marceloan |
This time there aren't guns... |
21:58
π
|
nitro2k01 |
Illegal content != Illegally distributed content |
21:59
π
|
balrog |
underscor: plenty of legal and legally distributed content on MU/RS/etc |
21:59
π
|
balrog |
I use mediafire for temporary uploads of stuff I produce |
21:59
π
|
underscor |
nitro2k01: TouchΓΒ© |
21:59
π
|
underscor |
balrog: No, I know that |
21:59
π
|
underscor |
I'm just saying that people who participate (if we decided to do such a project) need to be aware of the possible ramifications |
22:00
π
|
balrog |
underscor: well yeah |
22:03
π
|
marceloan |
@underscor How many TB do you think it will be? |
22:03
π
|
DFJustin |
if you have to ask, it's too many |
22:08
π
|
balrog |
DFJustin: way more TB than mac.com/mobileme? |
22:09
π
|
marceloan |
I think yes |
22:09
π
|
NovaKing |
how mant tb would what be? hosting something like MU? |
22:10
π
|
NovaKing |
think PB, not TB |
22:10
π
|
DFJustin |
RapidShare is one of the world's largest file-hosting sites, with 10 petabytes of files on its servers, and handling up to three million users simultaneously.[3] |
22:11
π
|
marceloan |
O.O |
22:11
π
|
NovaKing |
it's a lot of data |
22:13
π
|
Ymgve |
how large is Usenet, in comparison? |
22:14
π
|
SketchCow |
Rapidshare is so dead |
22:15
π
|
SketchCow |
We're just kind of fucked with Archive Team getting that. |
22:15
π
|
SketchCow |
All I can say is the best policy, if we want to pursue, is look for prominent linkage and grab down things as they get prominence. |
22:16
π
|
SketchCow |
I would hope someone is doing that. |
22:16
π
|
SketchCow |
We should make a term for it and encourage people out there to do it. |
22:16
π
|
SketchCow |
Like Livetap |
22:19
π
|
nitro2k01 |
Out of curiosity, did you ever get any SERIOUS legal threats, SketchCow? (Not the million dollar one...) |
22:19
π
|
SketchCow |
Sure. |
22:20
π
|
Nemo_ter |
underscor, is there any public graphs for the overall IA server stats, like ganglia.wikimedia.org? |
22:27
π
|
underscor |
Nemo_ter: Not overall |
22:28
π
|
Nemo_ter |
underscor, awww |
22:28
π
|
underscor |
Every IA server has graphs at ia[6|7]00xxxx.us.archive.org:8088/mrtg |
22:28
π
|
Nemo_ter |
yep, I want moar |
22:28
π
|
underscor |
http://ia700002.us.archive.org:8088/mrtg/ |
22:28
π
|
underscor |
Oh, nope |
22:28
π
|
underscor |
Sorry |
22:28
π
|
Nemo_ter |
I was just looking at how much memory my derive is consuming |
22:29
π
|
Nemo_ter |
(40 GiB apparently? :o) |
22:29
π
|
underscor |
:D |
22:29
π
|
underscor |
SketchCow: You don't think we can archive 10 petabytes of data? |
22:29
π
|
underscor |
Nemo_ter: That... doesn't make sense |
22:29
π
|
Nemo_ter |
underscor, it's cached http://iw600302.us.archive.org:8088/mrtg/memv2.html http://www.us.archive.org/log_show.php?task_id=94284874 |
22:30
π
|
underscor |
Oh, yeah, okay |
22:31
π
|
underscor |
There's also the host_stats page, but I don't know if regular people can access them |
22:35
π
|
Nemo_ter |
no, login required |