#archiveteam 2012-01-23,Mon

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00:16 πŸ”— arrith oh dang, filesonic changed stuff too. links might not work
00:17 πŸ”— balrog arrith: they won't work, unless you're the uploader
00:17 πŸ”— arrith oh no :(
00:17 πŸ”— arrith dead MU links and now dead FS links, this is horrible
00:20 πŸ”— arrith i guess FS did it at least two hours ago
00:21 πŸ”— Ymgve filesonic is the one that blocked the US?
00:22 πŸ”— DFJustin no
00:26 πŸ”— DFJustin that's uploaded.to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3495980
00:28 πŸ”— SketchCow I'm totally backing Team Kryoflux
00:28 πŸ”— balrog SketchCow: why
00:29 πŸ”— SketchCow Don't need a degree in engineering to use, team is responsive, have worked with them for years.
00:30 πŸ”— balrog the "degree in engineering" part is because the software isn't quite finished yet.
00:30 πŸ”— SketchCow Interesting
00:30 πŸ”— SketchCow Well guess what I buy.
00:30 πŸ”— SketchCow Software
00:30 πŸ”— balrog we've been doing quite a bit of work on that lately.
00:30 πŸ”— SketchCow Not incomplete software
00:30 πŸ”— SketchCow Not dreams, not promises.
00:30 πŸ”— SketchCow Not assurances.
00:30 πŸ”— balrog I want to do stuff like this http://chrisfenton.com/cray-1-digital-archeology/
00:30 πŸ”— DFJustin kryoflux is quite nice but softpres is still too opaque for me to recommend them wholeheartedly
00:30 πŸ”— balrog and I have that type of hardware.
00:30 πŸ”— balrog stacks and stacks of disks
00:30 πŸ”— Ymgve SketchCow: Don't talk like that, I have a Catweasel, these are painful memories
00:31 πŸ”— DFJustin for example, nothing has been added to their game database since june 2010
00:31 πŸ”— SketchCow Kryoflux has me now.
00:31 πŸ”— Ymgve "Software? WHat's that?"
00:31 πŸ”— SketchCow Don't worry, if something comes along that's real and works, I'll integrate them.
00:31 πŸ”— DFJustin so they must be getting all these dumps but I have no idea what's happening to them
00:32 πŸ”— SketchCow We're on the edge of taking this into a different channel.
00:32 πŸ”— SketchCow Because I'm home all week, we got archiveteam projects to check.
00:32 πŸ”— balrog the whole IPF library thing was opaque, all right
00:33 πŸ”— balrog they released the code very very soon after it was reverse-engineered for MESS. Coincidence?
00:33 πŸ”— SketchCow New channel.
00:34 πŸ”— SketchCow #floppydiscs
01:16 πŸ”— balrog done
01:52 πŸ”— SketchCow https://twitter.com/#!/textfiles/status/161262847534440449
01:58 πŸ”— godane ShetchCow: i think megaupload will be your talk at defcon
02:08 πŸ”— SketchCow Well, megaupload shouldn't be where I STORE my talk at defcon
02:09 πŸ”— Ymgve I think, in fact, it was
02:09 πŸ”— nitro2k01 Idea: Class action lawsuit against the DoJ by people who actually use MU for good stuff
02:09 πŸ”— nitro2k01 Maybe it "odoesn't work that way"
02:10 πŸ”— Ymgve I think I got some of the Defcon DVDs from Megaupload a while ago
02:10 πŸ”— Ymgve so, some of your talks were actually on megaupload
02:16 πŸ”— arrith ddl links aren't good when sites go down but torrents need perpetual seeders which isn't an option for joe user to handle alone. some kind of hybrid system would be nice but i don't know how a hybrid site would make its money
02:17 πŸ”— godane there are magnet links coming
02:17 πŸ”— balrog nitro2k01: such a class action has been proposed
02:18 πŸ”— balrog godane: magnet links still require seeders
02:18 πŸ”— godane i know
02:18 πŸ”— godane but not .torrent file needs to be hosted
02:18 πŸ”— arrith godane: there are already magnet links. but people need to use them more
02:19 πŸ”— arrith a 'premium account' on a hybrid ddl seeder site would need to authenticate users somehow
02:36 πŸ”— NovaKing godane: that is why torrage.com, zoink.it exist at present
02:39 πŸ”— NovaKing but you can always do a torrent w/ webseed
02:39 πŸ”— NovaKing torrents have had that option for quite some time
02:43 πŸ”— arrith if a person can run a torrent client to seed something rather than a webseed it would be better. people use webseeds if they already have a http serving setup, like the libreoffice people or linux distros
02:43 πŸ”— Coderjoe or some fansub/raw groups
02:45 πŸ”— NovaKing yeah
02:45 πŸ”— NovaKing so depending on what you are providing
02:45 πŸ”— NovaKing a webseed is a nice option
02:45 πŸ”— NovaKing in regards to magnets
02:45 πŸ”— NovaKing it's only good if it's a high seed
02:45 πŸ”— NovaKing as the time to find the hash in the DHT is a lot quicker
02:46 πŸ”— NovaKing where a 1-2 seed torrent may take a while for DHT to be searched for the torrent meta
02:46 πŸ”— NovaKing we have looked into DHT torrent meta hosting
02:46 πŸ”— NovaKing but found it near impossible to accomplish
02:47 πŸ”— arrith NovaKing: meta hosting for waht?
02:48 πŸ”— NovaKing torrent meta data
03:12 πŸ”— arrith NovaKing: why didn't it work
03:12 πŸ”— arrith ?
03:15 πŸ”— NovaKing well
03:15 πŸ”— NovaKing it's a limitation of how DHT works
03:16 πŸ”— NovaKing if we tried to load for example
03:16 πŸ”— NovaKing all of zoink.it
03:16 πŸ”— PatC hey SketchCow, you here?
03:16 πŸ”— yipdw whitehouse.gov's account system is fucking broken
03:16 πŸ”— NovaKing 560gb/s roughly will need to be constantly xfer'd around the place
03:16 πŸ”— NovaKing yipdw: broken?
03:16 πŸ”— yipdw NovaKing: yes
03:17 πŸ”— yipdw I'm looking at a screen that has both a "sign out" link and a "register new account" link
03:17 πŸ”— yipdw so I am both registered and not registered at the same time
03:17 πŸ”— NovaKing did you try and sign in?
03:17 πŸ”— yipdw evidently they want to stop people from signing petitions via broken code
03:17 πŸ”— yipdw yeah, I did -- that's how you get a "sign out" link
03:18 πŸ”— NovaKing is the "sign this petition" blue now?
03:18 πŸ”— NovaKing at very bottom
03:18 πŸ”— yipdw nope
03:18 πŸ”— SketchCow What up
03:18 πŸ”— yipdw maybe I need to use Windows
03:18 πŸ”— NovaKing clear cookies
03:18 πŸ”— NovaKing and try again
03:18 πŸ”— yipdw OH
03:19 πŸ”— yipdw I have to CLICK "Sign in"
03:19 πŸ”— yipdw I cannot press Enter
03:19 πŸ”— yipdw wtf
03:19 πŸ”— NovaKing HAHAH
03:19 πŸ”— NovaKing i HATE forms like that!
03:19 πŸ”— yipdw that is usability bullshit
03:19 πŸ”— PatC SketchCow, when is that internship that you were talking about on twitter?
03:19 πŸ”— SketchCow Whenever, when I can con someone into thinking this is awesome.
03:20 πŸ”— PatC ok
03:21 πŸ”— PatC Do you think there will be something still available around mid june?
03:27 πŸ”— yipdw whoa cool, I just got the twitter failwhale
03:41 πŸ”— NovaKing SketchCow: are you able to check something for me?
03:56 πŸ”— SketchCow SOmetimes.
03:59 πŸ”— NovaKing tis ok, underscor sorted me out
04:00 πŸ”— Zebranky SketchCow: re: your earlier RT, http://mercuric.net/tmp/thatsnotonline.png
04:01 πŸ”— Zebranky I was amused
04:52 πŸ”— DFJustin I think this megaupload situation is a good opportunity to evangelize people to use archive.org for stuff that's not warez
04:59 πŸ”— underscor Today I had the worst a-ha moment
05:00 πŸ”— underscor I realized "warez" is "wares" (rhyming with cares), not "where-rez"
05:03 πŸ”— DFJustin ...
05:07 πŸ”— underscor DFJustin: D:
05:07 πŸ”— DFJustin get off my lawn
05:22 πŸ”— chronomex damnit that's my lawn
05:22 πŸ”— chronomex damn kids and their adverse possession
05:57 πŸ”— yipdw you should pronounce "warez" so that it rhymes with "Juarez"
06:15 πŸ”— yipdw anyone want to help me seed 4,350 SOPA news stories?
06:15 πŸ”— yipdw I guess I could also just toss them on archive.org
06:16 πŸ”— yipdw but throwing them on TPB just sounds funnier
06:52 πŸ”— NovaKing yipdw: i'll help seed
06:53 πŸ”— DFJustin interestingly, archive-it did a sopa collection too http://www.archive-it.org/collections/3010
06:54 πŸ”— yipdw NovaKing: cool, thanks; details in msg
06:55 πŸ”— yipdw DFJustin: ooh, neat
06:55 πŸ”— yipdw DFJustin: I know people in here (me, tef, etc.) have a bunch of SOPA blackout pages too
06:56 πŸ”— yipdw I've shipped some to batcave but I guess I can send them to archive.org too
11:29 πŸ”— SketchCow http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/381168_169724613127690_130468153720003_204436_2031947055_n.jpg
12:00 πŸ”— nitro2k01 Give me suggestions for places with cheesy HTML backgrounds from back in the day
12:52 πŸ”— lytv ΓƒΒŒΓƒΒ»
15:59 πŸ”— godane i'm archiving techguylabs.com
16:44 πŸ”— Soojin of possible interest http://pastebin.com/ZebQjFiT
16:49 πŸ”— nitro2k01 ... and Dropbox and Box are not even on the list
16:50 πŸ”— Soojin in this case clouds of that sort don't count
16:51 πŸ”— nitro2k01 WHo compiled the lsit? You?
16:51 πŸ”— Soojin I just ripped it off a forum
16:57 πŸ”— Ymgve Well, we could scour the web for public Dropbox links
16:58 πŸ”— emijrp why dropbox donesnt count?
16:59 πŸ”— Ymgve because Dropbox is mostly for personal files
16:59 πŸ”— Soojin it's not used in the same manner as all of these other services, people mainly use it to share files to people around them and not in the masses like megaupload.
16:59 πŸ”— Ymgve in contrast with the other services, dropbox will block public links if they get too much traffic
18:20 πŸ”— SketchCow Morning
18:20 πŸ”— SketchCow I just saw "Get Lamp" mentioned in Wired, so I went to order a copy,
18:20 πŸ”— SketchCow because I enjoyed all those Infocom games back in the day... oof! $45
18:20 πŸ”— SketchCow for a DVD? That's too much. Take a page from the app store; you'd sell
18:20 πŸ”— SketchCow more if you dropped the price. A movie about Zork shouldn't cost more
18:20 πŸ”— SketchCow than Zork!
18:28 πŸ”— nitro2k01 Good point, SketchCow. I'll forwrd it to SketchCow next time he's around.
18:28 πŸ”— nitro2k01 Ah. It's probably a mail you received
18:30 πŸ”— nitro2k01 Tell the guy to use alternative distribution methods if he's not satisfied with the price
18:34 πŸ”— emijrp He can not download it now that MegaUpload was closed.
18:35 πŸ”— Coderjoe hahahah
18:36 πŸ”— emijrp By the way, traitors, http://thepiratebay.org/search/get%20lamp/0/99/0
18:36 πŸ”— ersi Thanks captain obvious
18:36 πŸ”— ersi you saved us all!
18:37 πŸ”— SketchCow Captian Obvious: He's Just Saying What We're All Thinking!!!!!!
18:38 πŸ”— SketchCow I'm adding episodes of the Sound Of Young America radio show while listening to a show, and while digitizing tapes on two other machines.
18:45 πŸ”— emijrp SketchCow: did you finish the jamendo upload and fix thingy?
18:46 πŸ”— SketchCow I finished the upload, I have NOT finished the fix thingy.
18:46 πŸ”— SketchCow So I estimate we have 99%
18:46 πŸ”— SketchCow I just need to do comparisons.
18:46 πŸ”— emijrp k
18:46 πŸ”— SketchCow Since it's obviously addiditve.
18:47 πŸ”— SketchCow But they're up there, man! All the albums up to last week!
18:47 πŸ”— emijrp well done
18:47 πŸ”— SketchCow Man, it MURDERED the incoming queue. :)
18:51 πŸ”— nitro2k01 Uncanny valley http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6-89KO8ZgQ
18:54 πŸ”— Coderjoe hahahah
18:55 πŸ”— nitro2k01 Saw the two first episodes of the show yesterday. I liked it surprisingly much.
18:55 πŸ”— nitro2k01 Only in Swedish so far, though
18:55 πŸ”— nitro2k01 They'd be crazy not to sell it abrod, though
18:56 πŸ”— SketchCow Thanks for the warning.
18:56 πŸ”— SketchCow Not a fan of horror.
18:56 πŸ”— emijrp the interviewed woman is a robot?
18:58 πŸ”— nitro2k01 No, she's just Japanese
18:58 πŸ”— SketchCow I agree with the comments. She's an american/swedish japanese actress speaking english with a fake japanese accent.
18:58 πŸ”— SketchCow Which set me off to begin, actually. :)
18:59 πŸ”— nitro2k01 Although the show does feature hybrids, so she may actually turn out to be a leader for the robot uprising in some future episode of the actual show
18:59 πŸ”— SketchCow Is there a link to the show?
19:00 πŸ”— emijrp It was a joke. That robots video sucks, watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnzlbyTZsQY
19:00 πŸ”— nitro2k01 Only in Swedish, only in Sweden (They block access from abroad)
19:00 πŸ”— SketchCow Yeah, that always works.
19:01 πŸ”— SketchCow What's the title in swedish.
19:01 πŸ”— nitro2k01 https://rapidshare.com/files/2440991038/EP1---PG-1138016-001A-AKTAMANNISKOR-05-mp4-e-v1.mp4
19:01 πŸ”— nitro2k01 Enjoy while RS stil exists
19:01 πŸ”— nitro2k01 Äkta MÀnniskor
19:03 πŸ”— SketchCow Thanks for the link, downloading.
19:26 πŸ”— ersi Äkta mÀnniskor = "Real humans" for the curious
21:15 πŸ”— balrog and now FileServe: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2012/01/more-megaupload-fallout-fileserve-shutters-file-sharing-service.ars
21:15 πŸ”— balrog talk about chilling effect.
21:15 πŸ”— NovaKing http://torrentfreak.com/cyberlocker-ecosystem-shocked-as-big-players-take-drastic-action-120123/
22:24 πŸ”— yipdw http://okmij.org/ftp/Computation/sendmail-as-turing-machine.txt
22:40 πŸ”— SketchCow hahahaha
22:40 πŸ”— SketchCow Well, that was a delightful twittering
22:40 πŸ”— SketchCow I just got 40 more followers
23:01 πŸ”— PatC congrats on your interns SketchCow
23:01 πŸ”— SketchCow Thanks.
23:02 πŸ”— SketchCow I am starting to lose my grip.
23:02 πŸ”— SketchCow I needed help.
23:02 πŸ”— PatC mhm
23:04 πŸ”— nitro2k01 What's your financing these days?
23:04 πŸ”— SketchCow Two jobs + doc sales
23:04 πŸ”— SketchCow + Kickstarter money for films
23:04 πŸ”— SketchCow + rolling drunks
23:04 πŸ”— PatC Let me know if you ever need someone to organise computer files or something
23:04 πŸ”— SketchCow P.s. here, have a scotch
23:05 πŸ”— nitro2k01 ScotchCow
23:12 πŸ”— SketchCow Total power outage.
23:12 πŸ”— SketchCow PatC: I need you more here.
23:12 πŸ”— SketchCow We need to assess archiveteam projects, make sure nothing's falling by the wayside.
23:13 πŸ”— SketchCow I'm in the process of trying to clear out batcave of data for a move.
23:13 πŸ”— SketchCow So I'm moving through terabytes as fast as I can.
23:14 πŸ”— PatC Ok
23:18 πŸ”— PatC Well, i'll be free thrusday - sunday this week, just let me know what you need me to do
23:32 πŸ”— yipdw whoa!
23:32 πŸ”— yipdw http://wayback.archive.org/web/*/http://okmij.org
23:32 πŸ”— yipdw that is a travesty
23:32 πŸ”— yipdw time for a refresh
23:41 πŸ”— yipdw http://wayback.at.ninjawedding.org/*/http://www.forbes.com*
23:41 πŸ”— yipdw :D
23:42 πŸ”— SketchCow I approve
23:42 πŸ”— SketchCow What I REALLY want is the ones that block with robots.txt
23:42 πŸ”— yipdw I've got a few of those
23:43 πŸ”— yipdw I can't tell you which ones; my crawler gave the middle finger to robots.txt
23:43 πŸ”— yipdw but if you can give me some example URLs we can look
23:43 πŸ”— NovaKing yipdw: torrent work for you?
23:43 πŸ”— LordNlptp SketchCow: btw i have a ton of stuff i wgetted back when geocities was about to die; its probably mirrors of stuff you already have, but should i send it? and to where?
23:43 πŸ”— yipdw SketchCow: btw, you should have all the news stories I grabbed on batcave under yipdw/sopa-news-{1,2}
23:43 πŸ”— yipdw including all the dupes and shit
23:43 πŸ”— yipdw NovaKing: I'm at work; haven't tried
23:43 πŸ”— yipdw I'll give it a shot in a little while
23:44 πŸ”— SketchCow Thank you, yipdw
23:44 πŸ”— yipdw no problem
23:44 πŸ”— NovaKing underscor about?
23:44 πŸ”— SketchCow LordNlptp: Yes, I can give you a slot on batcave to rsync
23:44 πŸ”— NovaKing wanted to see status of the zoink upload
23:45 πŸ”— yipdw hahahaha
23:45 πŸ”— yipdw I missed this
23:45 πŸ”— yipdw http://wayback.at.ninjawedding.org/20120120092200/http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/01/19/truth-about-sopa/
23:45 πŸ”— PatC yipdw, did it get removed?
23:46 πŸ”— yipdw I dunno
23:46 πŸ”— yipdw I just never read that article
23:46 πŸ”— yipdw "Unfortunately, one of the reasons why you canҀ™t believe everything you read about the Stop Online Piracy Act is because some critics of this bill have generated enormous profits from illegal websites that sell stolen intellectual property."
23:47 πŸ”— chronomex hahahaha
23:49 πŸ”— yipdw actually, speaking of robots.txt...
23:49 πŸ”— yipdw http://www.foxnews.com/robots.txt
23:49 πŸ”— yipdw that is one weird file
23:49 πŸ”— yipdw are they using the story and column_archive links as robot traps or something?
23:49 πŸ”— PatC whats Sitemap:
23:50 πŸ”— yipdw Sitemap is a pointer to, uh, a sitemap
23:50 πŸ”— yipdw as defined here -> http://www.sitemaps.org/
23:50 πŸ”— yipdw it can be used by robots for more efficient crawling
23:51 πŸ”— yipdw that is, instead of trawling through a shitload of HTML generated for human consumption, the crawler can download a collection of XML files and just pull out the links from there
23:51 πŸ”— yipdw so flattening the hierarchy (sort of -- Fox News' top-level Sitemap references reference more sitemaps)
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