[00:30] So library.nu has shut itself down. [00:31] And Biella Coleman is all "oh no! a DIGITAL ALEXANDRIA" [00:31] I don't think that historical references means what she thinks it means [00:44] batcave is now down, trying to get it back [00:46] damn that was a good site [00:50] I hate the sense of entitlement people have. [00:51] Although I guess if you do enough psychotic copyright protection threatening for 20 years, eventually you'll just end up with a lot of sociopathic, insane piracy [00:52] what was library.nu? [00:52] book tracker site/download site [00:52] I go there and get google books [00:52] Where do you draw the line between sane piracy and sociopathic piracy? [00:52] Well, instead of finding THE line I look for signs. [00:52] right between the sociopaths and the normal people [00:52] Example: Having tons and tons and TONS AND TONS AND TONS of ads on your site. [00:53] And popunders and "wait here while we fetch your file" fake timeouts and all the hallmarks of "I am trying to make money off you." [00:54] Membership fees, "to help with the site" [00:55] You know, where someone is obviously running a business that basically uses content not theirs to earn money. [00:55] And is DESIGNED FROM THE GROUND UP to ensure income, with no transparency of income [00:55] Talking about Readability? :P [00:57] I think Readability/Instapaper/Spool have some issues, and I think you know that. [00:57] and probably megaupload [00:57] I actually didn't know you had thoughts on it, but I feel the same way [00:57] Luckily, I don't work there anymore :) [00:58] I have thoughts on everything. [00:58] Regardless, the R/I/S debate is a specific debate. [00:58] The library.nu debate? Not so much. [00:58] The Pirate Bay debate? Interesting because of Sweden, but obviously making no effort to restrict access to countries asking for no connectivity to it [00:59] And claiming its all out of their hands, yet still moderating and making choices on displayed contents. [00:59] Meanwhile... openlibrary? [00:59] Hellooooo openlibrary I work for that [01:00] Do you think MU had an excusable amount of those things? [01:01] MU had some REALLY SKETCHY SHIT [01:02] Bounties for specific works, etc [01:02] That, I didn't know [01:02] I knew it had profit per download [01:02] http://relate.mit.edu/physicscourse [01:03] Oh look, a free online course from MIT [01:03] Part of... you know, the many hours of free onlone courses they offer [01:05] I'd really love to look more into the MU music publishing system i read about [01:13] batcave is down and I'm having trouble getting admin attention - not surprising considering it's 5pm there now [01:13] Maybe I should, oh I don't know, clean my fucking mess of a room here [01:17] Since I am leaving it for a MONTH this Friday [01:22] Where're you off to? [01:23] California and Texas [01:25] just sent off my valentine's gift to archive.org- issues 8-14 of Commander magazine metadata done [01:56] and here it is in my mailbox! [02:03] dashcloud: They're all in now [02:04] So strange we skipped issue 2 for some reason for metadata. [02:33] I've got #2 here if you need another copy [02:35] I wonder how I missed it. [02:35] Yeah, send it along. [02:41] okay- sent [02:42] it's fascinating watching the magazine (or any publication) change- especially since all I really see is the contents and maybe the 5 pages or so in front of it [03:35] haha, this one is great http://zmpp.sourceforge.net/games/play.php?name=9:05%20%28Adam%20Cadre%29&storyfile=905.z5 [06:39] alrighty, linux box is running and ready to roll [06:43] so, whats the best set of Wget commands to smash into fortunecity? i wanna go digging to see how many of the old school sites are still under the thick layer of new tech [06:54] batcave is back. [06:54] Started up the pain rays again [07:02] ha, pain rays [07:19] kin37ik: I think --mirror is perhaps what you want, but I'd scrape/crawl the through fortunecity first - trying to find usernames and shizzle before downloading it all [07:23] ersi: hmm, well i do know a few URL's to poke, theres a few sites still sitting there from the 90's that i wanna poke to see how many dir's are still active, but aside from that, how would i go about scraping/crawling effectively? [07:23] I don't think there's any well known tools. You'd write your own crawler.. :) [07:25] ersi: ouch, only thing im good at writing really is HTML S: i just found a notepad file that i was passed a while ago with a ton of fortunecity url's in it [07:25] better then nothing, heh [07:26] hmm [07:26] this notepad doc has about 400,000 url's on it form memory [07:27] from* [07:28] If you don't mind, feel like uploading to a pastebin or so? [07:28] yeah, good idea [07:30] I love when academic students send me massive letters proposing collaboration and.... not really saying anything. [07:31] well, that was a good way to crash firefox, snap [07:31] You looked at it? [07:31] no lol [07:33] this list of url's is far to large for pastebin ersi [07:34] wget! [07:34] kin37ik: I'd use nopaste's commandline tool [07:35] `cat list | nopaste` [07:35] Or just upload the .txt somewhere :-) [07:35] Fortunecity perhaps? [07:35] i can send it to you if you want? [07:35] sure :) [07:38] alrighty, started sending, awaiting reply [07:40] lol, 6MB file :D [07:40] had to pack it because the txt file is 50mb large and my upload speed isnt the greatest on irc S: [07:40] Oh.. and it's bzipped as well ;o [07:40] this is a few URLs then, hah [07:40] yeah lol [07:44] ohh yeah, you might need this to unlock the archive: 1604175120926705 [07:44] i think from memory whoever passed it to me last time locked it for some reason [07:45] Hm, only 5.6MB made it through [07:45] root@teamarchive-0:/3/FRIENDSTER/CHECK/WHUSET# tar cf - 5210000-5219999 | pv | bzip2 --best > friendster.5210000-5219999.tar.bz2 [07:45] 1.79GB 0:10:24 [2.28MB/s] [ <=> [07:46] This is going to go well. [07:46] I bet it's fucking huge. [07:46] ersi: stopped receving? [07:46] yeah, "lost DCC chat with kin37ik" :o [07:47] ersi: odd, im still sending and reckons your still receving [07:47] and just finished [07:47] oh, yeah seems like it [07:47] it's now 7.1MB :o [07:47] yeah, thats the correct archive size [07:48] And it decompressed nicely. I got it! [07:48] [07:48] Dear Sirs, [07:48] It has come to our attention that you are displaying substantial text from the Desert Survival Situation. on your website at: http://cd.textfiles.com/educationp/REFERENC/CLD9SCTG/CLD9SCTG.TXT [07:48] without prior permission. The Desert Survival Situation is copyrighted by Human Synergistics International, which has the exclusive right to reproduce, copy, edit, translate and otherwise exercise ownership over the material. Please be advised that we have no agreement that gives your organization permission to reproduce this exercise in any format. Therefore, this action constitutes a direct violation of our copyright. [07:49] I think a short "LOL" might be in order in the reply [07:49] I tend to take them down. [07:49] And replace them with the letter. [07:49] ersi: excellent [07:52] Done [07:55] is using the --no-parent tag a good idea when grabbing stuff off of fortunecity? [07:56] If you're doing --mirror on individual users, I'd say yes - looks like it, from reading the man page [07:57] I'd grab the latest wget-warc by the way. If you fetch it all and make it into warcs, it's easy to kludge the content into Internet Archive's Wayback Machine [07:58] dont thye do a crawl on fortunecity every couple of months though? [07:58] thye* [07:58] they* [07:59] "take them down and replace them with the letter" meaning move the original to some shadow area that isn't online? [08:00] Coderjoe_: never delete - never surrender [08:01] "By SketchCow's command line, I shall avenge you" ? [08:01] ersi: does warc come with the latest version of wget, or is thta a separate build? [08:02] something like that [08:02] Coderjoe_: That would be right. [08:02] I never delete. [08:02] In this case, it's slightly funnier, because the ISOs are out there. [08:03] I'm hiring clothiers to custom design me a suit for speaking about archiveteam [08:03] Expensive, but gotta step that shit up. [08:03] Coderjoe_: it's "you shall be avenged" :P [08:03] oh well [08:03] kin37ik: https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/mobileme-grab/blob/master/get-wget-warc.sh or download this: https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/mobileme-grab/raw/master/get-wget-warc.sh [08:04] kin37ik: then run ./get-wget-warc.sh and it'll download and build it. You need gnutls-dev~ [08:04] For what it's worth, same tailor/clothier as john hodgman [08:04] kin37ik: the code is in the wget repository, but, as far as I know, there hasn't been a release since it was added. [08:06] haha [08:06] I wonder if Limelight Media, Inc. had rights to distribute that [08:06] and it is funny that it is from 94 [08:06] Of course not [08:08] ohc [08:08] ouch [08:08] I suspect large portions of that file are not owned by Human Synergistics International [08:08] Archive-name: scouting/3_games/part1 [08:08] Last-Modified: FRI APR 14 14:12:39 CST 1993 [08:08] This file contains a number of games collected on rec.scouting, misc.kids and [08:08] has been split into 3 separate postings. [08:08] scouts-l, for your pack, den or troop activities. Due to its size, this FAQ [08:09] O_o [08:10] *** Hi Scouters - a fellow on rec.backcountry is going to try and produce an [08:10] -------------------------------- [08:10] Arctic version of this 'game'. I've given this twice in our Troop - [08:10] From: stolz@fnboot.fnal.gov [08:10] Subject: Desert Survival Game [08:10] the results are always interesting. The GAMEMASTER'S SHEET is 'page 4' ... [08:10] --------------------------------cut here ----------------------------------- [08:10] DESERT SURVIVAL GAME [08:11] id better get installing gnutls then [08:12] only 7.15% of that file is the "Desert Survival Game" [08:12] :( [08:12] http://www.flickr.com/photos/textfiles/ helsinki hacklab [08:18] http://www.flickr.com/photos/textfiles/6867909861/in/photostream/ [08:18] what is that? [08:19] that looks like an old school keyboard to....serial adaptor of sorts, might be wrong though [08:19] yeah, looks sort of like that - but weird pin holes [08:20] and what is the silver cylinder in the middle? [08:20] AFAIK the pins of the older PC keyboards are in a circle formation [08:20] Coderjoe: that's the one connector we're talking about [08:20] there are some that are older pin types, that arent cylindrical [08:20] Adapter for C64 [08:20] ah! [08:20] d'uh~ [08:20] ok, so that's an AT keyboard connector in the middle? [08:21] and an old PC keyboard on the far end? [08:21] oh wow, gaming nevada http://www.flickr.com/photos/textfiles/6810161861/in/photostream [08:23] I assume you meant nirvana [08:24] I don't see a lot of desert in the pic, so I assume so as well [08:24] yeah, that one lol, i should really pay a little bit more attention to what im writing...... [08:24] mmm [08:25] http://www.flickr.com/photos/textfiles/6809059415/in/photostream/ [08:25] some of my code, which might never actually be used by that game, should be in that cabinet. [08:25] (in the middle) [08:26] nevada/nirvana is a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malapropism [08:38] Coderjoe: what code? [08:39] I worked on stepmania a bit awhile back. Stepmania was used in a few arcade cabs, including Pump It Up Pro. [08:39] ah, neat [08:40] I had various bug fixes, plus some work on the (DDR-style) beginnerhelper and the how to play attract screen. [08:47] just had a bit of a poke around to see how much of fortunecities yesteryears data is still active, results are pretty half and half [08:55] root@teamarchive-0:/3/FRIENDSTER/CHECK/WHUSET# tar cf - 5210000-5219999 | pv | bzip2 --best > friendster.5210000-5219999.tar.bz2 [08:55] 14.2GB 1:20:02 [3.61MB/s] [ <=> [08:55] 14gb and counting. [08:55] And this is just the first one. [08:55] On the other hand, it's definitely getting bzipped and that will help. [08:58] The first friendster set? [09:05] No, no. [09:05] This is, like, the billionth set [09:14] tangentially relevant to archiveteam: http://www.usenix.org/event/usenix08/tech/full_papers/pucha/pucha.pdf [09:15] (rsync-like thing that auto switches between transfer methods to even out system load between disk, cpu, network) [09:15] root@teamarchive-0:/3/FRIENDSTER/CHECK/WHUSET# tar cf - 5210000-5219999 | pv | bzip2 --best > friendster.5210000-5219999.tar.bz2 [09:15] 17.4GB 1:38:04 [3.04MB/s] [ <=> ] [09:15] root@teamarchive-0:/3/FRIENDSTER/CHECK/WHUSET# [09:15] Hooray [09:15] Just for curiosity I'm doing a du on it. [09:19] 19G 5210000-5219999 [09:19] chronomex: that looks fantastic [09:19] yeah, pity I can't find it [09:21] http://wiki2.dovecot.org/Tools/Dsync [09:21] lawl nvm [09:21] there are several things that are called dsync [09:22] Why didn't he call it ksync [09:22] like kitchen sink [09:22] or abcsync [09:22] fuckinfastsync [09:22] chronomex: http://codeascraft.etsy.com/2012/01/23/solr-bittorrent-index-replication/ [09:22] is that the other thing called dsync? [09:23] Or.. YASTTINY, Yet Another Sync Tool That Is Not YAST [09:23] some tips from etsy on syncing huge files (solr indexes) [09:23] ersi: i like it [09:23] Me too, it's sorta cute-ish [09:24] nsync [09:24] eh? [09:24] why would you want a sync tool called dsync? [09:25] it's totally bitchen [09:26] but I want things synced, not desynced [09:27] right. [09:29] nsync [09:29] lol [09:29] i'm going to have to write it now [09:32] bin=$(which rsync); echo sudo ln -s "$bin" $(dirname "$bin")/nsync [09:32] nsync! [09:33] file won't be known by apt, which is bad though [09:35] alias nsync=rsync [09:35] done [09:35] alias rm=shutdown [09:35] haha [09:35] That'll give you time to think about what you did [09:36] init 0 [09:37] kill -asshole [09:37] haha [09:39] hmm, struck some zip files from fortunecity [09:40] from what i can make out of it, seems like an old rom site or something [09:40] ooh [09:41] arrith: wtf does that do [09:42] chronomex: puts nsync in the same dir as rsync [09:42] with nsync being a symbolic link to rsync [09:43] o. [09:43] tricky. [09:43] http://www.archive.org/details/bbc-monographs-99 [09:44] The first of the other 100 [10:34] awww yummm, chips and gravy [10:45] awesome [10:45] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4XiJFvE6vQ [10:45] i second that [10:54] theres an Art-Attack video on youtube, awsome. [10:55] I've been blasting dubstep and trying to get everything locaql done. [10:56] ewww, i dont like about 99.5% of dubstep [10:56] that's your problem [10:56] i know lol [10:57] as long as you dont like skrillex everything is fine [10:57] wait, you said dubstep :) [10:57] try http://soundcloud.com/erwtenpeller/war-of-the-worlds [10:57] pretty much the only dubsteppy thing i like [10:58] hmm [10:58] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeTWBgBylrs [10:59] yukstep [10:59] I play that on speakers that make curtains move [10:59] oh yes benassi videos rock [10:59] anyways im out for tonight, laters [11:00] Anyway, I'm not in the "convince you to like my music" business [11:00] I'm in the "collect tons of shit while listening to my music" business [11:00] :) [11:00] works for me [11:01] I have photos I took of a friend's place after they had a file [11:01] fire [11:01] Should be a compelling opening to one of my archive keynotes [11:01] Ironically [11:01] Because you know, every fire needs irony [11:01] They moved all their stuff they wanted to keep in room a [11:01] And stuff they were going to sell/throw away in room b [11:01] Guess which room went on fire [11:01] I see where this is going [11:02] So not only did they lose shit, they lost curated-for-quality shit [11:02] http://flickr.com/gp/textfiles/2D718R [11:04] Sign in to Yahoo! [11:04] Yahoo! in to Sign [11:05] http://i.imgur.com/YO563.jpg speaking about fire [11:05] sorry, Sign has been shut down because we changed our focus [11:06] haha [11:07] yahoo has fucking Business Unit Explosive Bolts [11:07] http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3629/3628534163_5114e711be.jpg [11:07] hahahaha [11:08] haha [11:11] For what it's worth, I am SLAMMING through tapes. [11:13] This is good, this is the big local physical thing. [11:13] And e-mail. Catching up. [11:14] m-m-multitask [11:16] fuck yeah email [11:16] like a boss [11:16] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCmO-C9D3zE [11:16] TALK TO CORPORATE [11:16] MY OWN BATHROOM [11:16] FOUND A FISH THING [11:16] FUCKED ITS BRAINS OUT [11:17] My main guilty pleasure is that I am still adding the metadata to these BBC monographs [11:18] That is totally an awful idea, but I can't stop [11:18] Example is n-noice [11:18] nice to the n-n-n-noice [11:19] I think people need to know Sturgeon's Law. [11:19] You know it, right. [11:19] So I always look for the 10 percent in everything, including dubstep. [11:19] Great dubstep is great. [11:19] But if it goes off the rails it REALLY goes off the rails. [11:20] yeah [11:26] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5BII4M8u8o&t=10s [11:26] And there, well, come on, this kid is awesome [11:26] I totally buy into the chest-thump [11:28] And if you're not impressed, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yrGskBmMTo will fix that shit. [11:29] that kid certainly has moves [11:30] I wonder if he does it realtime [11:30] I am positive he does [11:31] Bet there's video of it [11:31] the kinematics seem a bit weird [11:31] maybe gravity is different there [11:31] It is France [11:31] aha [11:31] so he has no job and has been perfecting this for the past 10 years while not rioting? [11:31] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02xAP6q0HJw there you go. [11:31] *between riots [11:32] argh video backlog [11:34] okay, this last one got me convinced [11:34] because of the way his shirt hangs [11:34] that can't be good for his balls [11:34] Bird flies by at 1:16 [11:34] predict that in 3 years he'll be like underscor [11:34] People are arguing about fake and mentioning the bird [11:35] Too bad about the autofocus [11:35] Over it [11:35] meh [11:35] good shit, thanks for sharing [11:36] If you want to watch 1/5th the talent but 400% the girl, http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=tyoXf-2InL4 [11:36] Actually, don't. [11:36] What you want this this. [11:36] Do you know the actor... damnit, he's in Moon and the Chuck Barris story [11:36] add it to the download queue [11:37] damnit I STILL have yet to see Moon [11:37] Sam Rockwell [11:37] Anyway, Sam Rockwell, he's 2 years older than me [11:37] that is much more girl. [11:37] So watch this. [11:37] Screen Test footage he did. [11:37] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gvj8ZEnNrQY [11:38] Like, just watch him. [11:38] your youtube watching is much different than mine [11:38] my favorited videos are all manhole explosion videos [11:39] okay, watching. [11:40] Do NOT miss the move at 2:04 [11:41] It took a long time before I found out how much more I ingest, media and information wise, than the average people. [11:42] I've met a few others who do my rate and my range, and we're all insane and hard to get along with. [11:42] shocker [11:43] Do you know the Text Mode Demo Competition? [11:43] no .. [11:44] Competition to create demos but they can only use a text mode [11:44] aye [11:44] What this comes down to is they code them anyway, and then that means the resolution and speed is fucking INSANE [11:44] So here's two for you. [11:44] ok [11:48] Huh. I can't find the video version, that ain't right [11:48] oh dear [11:48] I have a computer here, btw [11:49] ftp://ftp.untergrund.net/users/taat/tmdc/SignalToDroids.zip [11:50] doesn't work in whine, pity [11:50] erm, wine. [11:51] same thing I guess [11:53] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t76kr2lKC2k thnn [11:53] also textmode [11:55] this shit is 80x25, right? [11:55] Either 80x25 or 80x50 [11:55] Depending on the mode. [11:56] Looks 80x25 [11:58] I'd like to see this with more pixels :P [11:58] the color dithering is amazing for 16 colors [11:59] https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Vzf-nK3qkC8/TyrnpnN2FvI/AAAAAAAADCE/pmsg_-iz8Fk/w235/6RYy1.gif [12:13] * chronomex & [12:27] that textmode stuff is crazy [12:28] also the best dubstep i've heard is basically great then machines grinding then great again [12:28] example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEUlyDVWzXs [12:28] it's like if someone only did a remix that cut out the 'wub's [13:48] This is a sad day for free knowledge....library.nu seems to shutting down completely. [13:48] seems to be, rather [13:52] I guess they took a hard hit after the megaupload+clones shutdown [13:53] next best thing http://ebookee.org/ [14:11] It's a big loss. Nothing matched library.nu in quality and diversity. I fear we will be left with eMule only. [14:13] avaxhome.ws had many books, but most of it depends on file sharing sites like megaupload. So, most of the links are dead now. [14:14] This is worse than the burning of the Alexandria Library. [14:16] this is why we need stuff like https://tahoe-lafs.org/trac/tahoe-lafs for those kind of sites. this runs in I2P too btw [14:17] also dont forgot about http://free-books.dontexist.com/ [14:17] What was on http://library.nu? [14:17] oops [14:17] ebooks [14:17] http://gen.lib.rus.ec/ [14:17] that one still works [14:21] ersi: a massive amount of pdf and djvu ebooks, mostly the originals or very well scanned. Everything was categorized. No noise, only useful info. [14:25] ah...a very nice russian site [14:26] Aw [14:26]