#archiveteam 2012-02-17,Fri

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01:29 🔗 underscor Nemo_bis: That data is for other projects
01:30 🔗 underscor I've been pushing the repos to github, but they're just the git-annex metadata
01:30 🔗 underscor So relatively small
02:17 🔗 underscor DFJustin: https://github.com/ab2525/ia-cdbbsarchive
02:17 🔗 underscor :)
02:22 🔗 Aranje ugh
02:23 🔗 Aranje I hate windows for the sole reason that I can't run it for months on end without rebooting
02:24 🔗 Aranje It does weeks well, but after 1.5mo it just goes to shit
02:24 🔗 DFJustin http://images.4chan.org/a/src/1329445086102.jpg
02:24 🔗 Aranje haha I love that guy
02:25 🔗 Aranje He's a big fat grandious asshat with a tech company
02:25 🔗 Aranje and just enough money to hang himself with
02:27 🔗 * Aranje solemnly reboots
02:34 🔗 underscor haha
02:35 🔗 underscor Ugh, this is taking entirely too long
02:35 🔗 underscor Compressing objects: 51% (22695/43827)
02:35 🔗 underscor Counting objects: 55488, done.
02:35 🔗 underscor Delta compression using up to 4 threads.
03:01 🔗 cryptops1 is delta compression redundant?
03:02 🔗 cryptops1 why is the fat guy with a chick
03:02 🔗 cryptops1 but the other guy with two gay looking guys
03:02 🔗 cryptops1 they don't look like employees, and if they were, they wouldn't be in his arms
03:03 🔗 underscor closure: How do you migrate from URLs added with --fast to SHA256E?
03:03 🔗 cryptops1 the chick is his wife, so she's not shooting a scene
03:30 🔗 SketchCow OK, I am lazy as fuck. Tell me the way to install git-annex on this linux box.
03:31 🔗 SketchCow apt-get ain't doing it
03:31 🔗 SketchCow I understand there's a git respository, but boy, git is confusing
03:33 🔗 underscor SketchCow: fos?
03:33 🔗 underscor Or, rather, what distribution?
03:33 🔗 kennethre SketchCow: ubuntu?
03:34 🔗 kennethre git-annex should be in apt-get
03:34 🔗 SketchCow Linux teamarchive-1.us.archive.org 2.6.32-33-server #70-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jul 7 22:28:30 UTC 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux
03:34 🔗 kennethre if you're on Oneiric or newer
03:34 🔗 underscor It's old though
03:34 🔗 underscor I'd not recommend using the apt version, because it's lacking a ton of features
03:34 🔗 underscor It's also in universe, iirc
03:35 🔗 underscor SketchCow: Is universe enabled on that machine?
03:35 🔗 SketchCow How about a manual.
03:35 🔗 SketchCow a manual install.
03:35 🔗 underscor You need http://hackage.haskell.org/platform/
03:35 🔗 underscor extract that
03:35 🔗 kennethre hahahaha
03:35 🔗 kennethre oh have fun with that
03:35 🔗 underscor then download http://www.haskell.org/ghc/dist/7.4.1/ghc-7.4.1-x86_64-unknown-linux.tar.bz2
03:35 🔗 underscor inside of it
03:35 🔗 underscor Then extract that
03:36 🔗 underscor cd ghc-7.4.1
03:36 🔗 kennethre apt-get install ghc6
03:36 🔗 SketchCow So what you're saying is it's too much work. Done.
03:36 🔗 underscor kennethre: old
03:36 🔗 underscor Believe me, I tried it
03:36 🔗 kennethre old haskell shouldn't matter
03:37 🔗 underscor Yeah, it does
03:37 🔗 kennethre blah
03:37 🔗 underscor You get conflicts with base-
03:37 🔗 kennethre haskell is crazy
03:37 🔗 underscor Not really :P
03:37 🔗 kennethre it takes like 45 GB
03:37 🔗 SketchCow OK, stop stop nerds stop
03:37 🔗 underscor It's like 100mb
03:37 🔗 underscor Anyway
03:37 🔗 SketchCow kill -9 nerds
03:37 🔗 kennethre that's crazy
03:37 🔗 kennethre lol
03:37 🔗 underscor SketchCow: How about if I write a shell script that does it for you?
03:37 🔗 SketchCow kill -9 nerds
03:37 🔗 SketchCow shutdown now
03:37 🔗 underscor that way you can at least see the commands,
03:42 🔗 SketchCow Write a shell script.
03:42 🔗 SketchCow But don't discuss it here, just write it.
03:42 🔗 SketchCow And give it to closure so he can improve install instructions.
03:46 🔗 underscor okay
03:51 🔗 SketchCow I'm convincing some filmmakers to release their footage for free on archive.org
03:51 🔗 SketchCow I'm always convincing.
03:51 🔗 SketchCow sudo make git-annex for me
03:54 🔗 kennethre hahaha
03:54 🔗 underscor closure: ping
03:54 🔗 underscor Have a sec to check over this script?
03:56 🔗 underscor http://hastebin.com/vehakorigo.hs
03:58 🔗 underscor Whoops, found two typos
03:58 🔗 underscor http://hastebin.com/javifukemi.hs
03:58 🔗 underscor That should be good, runs here
04:09 🔗 underscor SketchCow: I saw that, pretty awesome!
04:18 🔗 underscor kennethre: #1 on hnews
04:18 🔗 underscor congrats!
04:18 🔗 kennethre underscor: haha, thanks
04:21 🔗 underscor Just read the actual post
04:21 🔗 underscor That's super awesome
04:22 🔗 kennethre it really is
04:22 🔗 kennethre i'm really pumpted
04:22 🔗 kennethre *pumped
04:23 🔗 underscor :)
04:24 🔗 arrith hmmm
04:25 🔗 arrith a git-annex install script would be neat, especially if it could do all checkinstall and have what it manually installs be tracked by apt
04:25 🔗 arrith but then you'd have to maintain it for newer hackage / ghc / git-annex releases, and test it on distros
04:26 🔗 arrith one project i know of that tells you to just dl their stuff manually is the SAGE mathematics software. but it's tricky
04:26 🔗 arrith not very clean
04:27 🔗 arrith maintaining one's own software outside of the package manager is tricky. basically i'd recommend setting up an apt repo, which is probably what the debian/ubuntu devs would recommend
04:28 🔗 arrith there's probably a way to do that on github
04:30 🔗 arrith http://joseph.ruscio.org/blog/2010/08/19/setting-up-an-apt-repository/
04:32 🔗 underscor Well, I mean, it'd be better if distros would update their packages more often
04:33 🔗 underscor The version of ghc, cabal, and friends in lucid is ancient
04:33 🔗 underscor (relatively speaking)
04:34 🔗 underscor and lots of other system packages rely on those specific versions of certain libraries
04:34 🔗 underscor so you can't just grab the precise deb and install it
04:34 🔗 arrith well, there's that 'constantly usable testing' effort in the debian world, to be more rollingish
04:34 🔗 arrith and ubuntu has 'handled' it with ppas
04:34 🔗 underscor sort-of
04:34 🔗 underscor But then you run into dumb dependency issues
04:34 🔗 arrith i'm basically advocating a ppa, unless people agree that doing apt-pinning with debian CUT like stuff is okay
04:34 🔗 arrith eh
04:35 🔗 underscor There are packages in uni/multi that require the older version of ghc
04:35 🔗 arrith the ppa just needs to take it upon themselves to not step on the toes of packages on various versions of distros that they 'support'
04:35 🔗 arrith right
04:35 🔗 tef http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-16681630
04:35 🔗 underscor I dunno, just seems awkward
04:35 🔗 arrith onus is on the ppa until debian/ubuntu/etc get that together, if ever
04:35 🔗 arrith oh it is
04:35 🔗 arrith but a ppa is better than random tarballs everywhere
04:36 🔗 underscor In your opinion
04:36 🔗 underscor :P
04:36 🔗 underscor Typically language/platform specific package managers are better than using the distro one anyway
04:36 🔗 arrith underscor: not being tracked by the package manager == bad idea
04:36 🔗 arrith eh
04:36 🔗 underscor (cf cpan, gem, cabal)
04:36 🔗 arrith cpan, pip, all that just reinventing apt
04:36 🔗 arrith yea
04:36 🔗 arrith they'd like users to think that
04:36 🔗 kennethre OperServ: other way around.
04:37 🔗 arrith but i have seen the light of aptitude, and it is superior
04:37 🔗 kennethre * arrith: ^
04:37 🔗 kennethre arrith: it's the other way around.
04:37 🔗 underscor ^
04:37 🔗 arrith ?
04:37 🔗 kennethre no, aptitude is system-level.
04:37 🔗 kennethre it should be user-level.
04:37 🔗 underscor yes
04:37 🔗 kennethre distro package managers have killed python.
04:37 🔗 kennethre they ruin everything.
04:37 🔗 kennethre they you install python and pip and then be done.
04:37 🔗 kennethre no packages.
04:38 🔗 arrith one thing, distros at least provide someone besides the dev of something to make sure there's not a "rm -rf /*" hidden inside it
04:38 🔗 arrith but yeah that comes at the cost of convenience
04:39 🔗 tef arrith: they also comment out sources of entropy :v
04:39 🔗 arrith a user-level apt sounds interesting, not really sure how that would be done
04:39 🔗 kennethre your system should be ephemeral anyway.
04:39 🔗 arrith kennethre: meaning?
04:39 🔗 kennethre arrith: look at homebrew or nix
04:39 🔗 kennethre arrith: rm -fr /* shouldn't have any huge implications
04:39 🔗 arrith nix is very fancy, homebrew is beyond a hack
04:40 🔗 kennethre nix is over my head
04:40 🔗 kennethre but i like what i've seen so far
04:40 🔗 arrith yeah apt could do quite well taking on some nix concepts
04:41 🔗 * underscor googles nix
04:42 🔗 underscor ooh, this looks neat
04:42 🔗 NovaKing hey, you guys are about archiving, i'm trying to find an rpm that would be considered ancient (2006)
04:42 🔗 NovaKing 2.6.18-1.2257.fc5smp kernel-headers rpm
04:43 🔗 NovaKing i can't believe i'm finding it impossible to find anything, i would have thought there would be someone hosting it
04:43 🔗 NovaKing but alas haven't found anything yet
04:53 🔗 underscor Wow, that's old
04:59 🔗 SketchCow Back
05:11 🔗 SketchCow What is #1 on hnews.
05:11 🔗 SketchCow I just gave up trying to browse that thing.
05:13 🔗 kennethre SketchCow: http://kennethreitz.com/xcode-gcc-and-homebrew.html
05:13 🔗 kennethre not sure if that type of thing interests you
05:13 🔗 kennethre i assume not :P
05:14 🔗 SketchCow Only as a cultural historical force.
05:15 🔗 SketchCow For example, if I read this right, what you just did was make it so developing on apple is like 1996
05:15 🔗 SketchCow And not the proprietary fuckstick walled garden they've been working overtime to turn it into for a decade
05:15 🔗 SketchCow But I could be reading it wrong.
05:16 🔗 SketchCow Also, I love complainy nerds in the comments
05:16 🔗 SketchCow Complainy nerds are my tip top favorite.
05:16 🔗 SketchCow Tip. Top.
05:16 🔗 kennethre haha
05:16 🔗 kennethre they're the best
05:17 🔗 SketchCow Love them. Love them coming into somewhere, and you see them unzip, and hunker down, and kind of move back and forth, and you go "Oh, certainly they're not going..." and then there's this moment, when they look right at you, and you lock eyes, and then SQQQQUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUIIIIRP as they shit all over your work.
05:17 🔗 SketchCow LOVE THEM
05:18 🔗 kennethre you get used to it ;)
05:18 🔗 SketchCow No, you don't, and I've been doing it longer than you.
05:18 🔗 NovaKing huzzah! found the rpm
05:18 🔗 SketchCow You go through waves
05:18 🔗 NovaKing http://dl.central.org/dl/linuxdev/fedora5/i386/kernel-devel-2.6.18-1.2257.fc5.i686.rpm
05:18 🔗 SketchCow You're in a "My future's so bright I gotta wear shades" part of the wave
05:18 🔗 SketchCow Made something good, nothing's gonna bring you down
05:18 🔗 kennethre lmao
05:19 🔗 kennethre the language trolls at least are all the same
05:19 🔗 SketchCow But keep going
05:19 🔗 chronomex birthday boy mode
05:19 🔗 kennethre i toggle between hating them all and not caring
05:19 🔗 kennethre the GET OFF MY LAWN types
05:19 🔗 chronomex GET OFF MY LAN
05:19 🔗 SketchCow I am a get off my lawn
05:19 🔗 SketchCow But only in a relative sense.
05:19 🔗 SketchCow Obviously I am trying to fit git-annex into my brain sideways
05:19 🔗 chronomex SketchCow is a major lawn(d)owner
05:20 🔗 kennethre http://www.treday.com/BowlingBash07Pix/Stunnas.jpg
05:20 🔗 SketchCow So I am complaining about the relatively high barrier to entry to udnerstand it
05:20 🔗 SketchCow But the inherent idea interests me.
05:22 🔗 arrith btw but i'd much rather trust official distro maintainers than a random dev through cpan or pip, or let alone tarballs going crazy
05:22 🔗 chronomex I am a nazi when it comes to non-apt packages
05:22 🔗 chronomex been burned way too many times
05:23 🔗 chronomex everything non-apt goes in /opt/$packagename/
05:23 🔗 chronomex which gets its own bin/lib/etc heirarchy
05:23 🔗 arrith NovaKing: why in the world do you need that specific rpm?
05:23 🔗 SketchCow Used to do that when I was an admin.
05:23 🔗 NovaKing arrith: very old legacy server i have to support :(
05:24 🔗 arrith chronomex: i see a ton of people just fine with untarring some random tarball, running make install, then deleting all install stuff then after a while going "derp, how do i remove this"
05:24 🔗 arrith and complaining on irc
05:24 🔗 chronomex I used to do that, modulo the last step
05:24 🔗 arrith NovaKing: image it, put it in a vm on a newer os :P
05:24 🔗 arrith i'd use gpaco / paco until i figured out checkinstall
05:24 🔗 NovaKing arrith: i really really really wish i could, but i can't at present!
05:25 🔗 arrith NovaKing: :(
05:26 🔗 NovaKing 6 months, and i can be gone with it
05:26 🔗 NovaKing but until then, i needed that rpm :P
05:26 🔗 NovaKing or i would have no backup system in place, lol
05:37 🔗 underscor I save all my sources, but I don't install into a seperate tree
05:37 🔗 underscor Perhaps I should
05:37 🔗 underscor SketchCow: That script should do the job for you, fyi
05:37 🔗 underscor I just used it to install on a clean lucid box
05:37 🔗 SketchCow Where is the script?
05:38 🔗 SketchCow You are seriously overestimating today's attention span
05:39 🔗 SketchCow Someone mailed me about speaking at HOPE
05:39 🔗 SketchCow Of course, when I look closer, I see that it's not that.
05:39 🔗 SketchCow They're actually just some guy
05:39 🔗 underscor SketchCow: http://hastebin.com/javifukemi.hs
05:39 🔗 SketchCow Who is mailing me instructions to submit at hope
05:39 🔗 SketchCow Because he'd like to see a BBS talk
05:40 🔗 underscor here's a thing you can just wget -O install-annex.sh
05:40 🔗 underscor http://hastebin.com/raw/javifukemi
05:41 🔗 SketchCow fortress goes into dog slow mode constantly.
05:41 🔗 SketchCow Going to love figuring out why.
05:44 🔗 underscor yeah, so I've noticed with mobileme
05:45 🔗 underscor I'll continue this in skype, so as not to say anything compromising
06:51 🔗 underscor 00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000001 -- web
06:51 🔗 underscor 1 6:25AM:abuie@abuie-dev:~/archiveteam 23493 Ï git annex status
06:51 🔗 underscor semitrusted repositories: 2
06:51 🔗 underscor supported backends: SHA256 SHA1 SHA512 SHA224 SHA384 SHA256E SHA1E SHA512E SHA224E SHA384E WORM URL
06:51 🔗 underscor supported remote types: git bup directory rsync web hook
06:51 🔗 underscor trusted repositories: 0
06:51 🔗 underscor 85019413-6049-441c-a4a9-2f17dc0e734a -- here (ArchiveTeam Releases (@ IA))
06:51 🔗 underscor untrusted repositories: 0
06:51 🔗 underscor dead repositories: 0
06:51 🔗 underscor local annex keys: 0
06:51 🔗 underscor local annex size: 0 bytes
06:51 🔗 underscor known annex keys: 8611
06:51 🔗 underscor known annex size: 798 gigabytes
06:51 🔗 underscor backend usage:
06:51 🔗 underscor URL: 8611
07:51 🔗 Coderjoe <underscor> Because I just don't want the ia6xxxxx.archive.org/16/items/ bit, but I want everything else
07:52 🔗 Coderjoe underscor: you don't want the iaxxxxx anyway, you want www.archive.org/download/item, because items can be moved to new servers as needed
08:37 🔗 SketchCow Well, I've now wasted, really fucking wasted, an hour installing Haskell.
08:37 🔗 SketchCow So git-annex is awesome, but fail fail fail for regular people.
08:38 🔗 SketchCow I had forgotten how much of an assmunch sitting here compiling is.
08:39 🔗 SketchCow I did this for 10 years and hated it, quit, became a librarian
08:39 🔗 SketchCow So I'll get bucky to fix it tomorrow
08:39 🔗 SketchCow I am fascinated at the use but man, git is not for regular people
08:41 🔗 SketchCow I got the developers/admins to fix the "I'm completely fucking crippled" problem on fortress
08:41 🔗 SketchCow So that's going to make the umich go faster, alard
08:59 🔗 dcmorton SketchCow: what do you need from me to get rsync'ing to fos?
09:05 🔗 ersi Aw yeah! Top 10 on MobileMe
09:11 🔗 SketchCow I need to know what in your directory is done and what isn't.
09:12 🔗 SketchCow I can paste in a second
09:17 🔗 godane SketchCow: alot of hacker stuff can be found at good.net
09:18 🔗 godane like convention cdroms
09:18 🔗 godane and defcon realmedia files that are not hosted anymore
09:19 🔗 Coderjoe i'm kinda curious about what the fix for the crippling slowness was
09:20 🔗 Coderjoe (though I don't really have a huge xen/kvm deployment to worry about. only a couple hosts)
09:29 🔗 godane blackhat.com has some bad url
09:29 🔗 godane like this http://www.blackhat.com/presentations/bh-usa-08/BH_US_08_Ossmann_Software_Radio.pdf
09:30 🔗 godane should have been this: http://www.blackhat.com/presentations/bh-usa-08/Ossmann/BH_US_08_Ossmann_Software_Radio.pdf
09:31 🔗 godane also some 404 ppt are download minus the -1 in there file name
09:34 🔗 SketchCow The fix for the crippling slowness was that it turned out there was a hard limit for the assigned ram
09:35 🔗 SketchCow So it was given more space to play with and was constantly swapping out.
09:35 🔗 SketchCow They made the machine less robust, so to speak, but it worked better because it wasn't calling out to resources that then needed to be swapped.
09:35 🔗 SketchCow Nothing I do with these boxes needs so much RAM, so it's fine.
09:36 🔗 SketchCow At most it bzips
09:36 🔗 SketchCow But even bzip, a few hundred meg of ram, big deal.
09:36 🔗 Nemo_bis 7z can consume a lot of RAM
09:37 🔗 SketchCow Yeah, that too.
09:37 🔗 SketchCow Regardless, this machine was almost at frozen levels for doing an ls.
09:37 🔗 Nemo_bis SketchCow, <SketchCow> I need to know what in your directory is done and what isn't. --> from me too?
09:37 🔗 SketchCow It was not cool.
09:37 🔗 Nemo_bis heh
09:37 🔗 SketchCow Everyone.
09:37 🔗 dcmorton SketchCow: i can give you a list of done/not done for all the users in my data directory
09:38 🔗 SketchCow mobileme splinder
09:38 🔗 SketchCow root@teamarchive-0:/2/FTP/nemo_bis# ls
09:38 🔗 SketchCow Are both still in use?
09:38 🔗 dcmorton i'm not downloading at all right now.. have some incompletes/fails but that's it
09:39 🔗 SketchCow People should talk to alard about Using the new upload script.
09:42 🔗 SketchCow So, Splinder is DOWN down, huh.
09:42 🔗 SketchCow Gooooo splinder
09:43 🔗 alard SketchCow: The mobileme upload scripts are finished. Waiting for you to give the green light.
09:44 🔗 Nemo_bis SketchCow, yes, they kept the promise, it was shut down on the 31st
09:45 🔗 SketchCow I give the green light.
09:45 🔗 SketchCow For everyone but kenneth.
09:45 🔗 ersi Open the flood gates?!
09:46 🔗 alard Okay, people: git pull and start running again.
09:46 🔗 SketchCow Mobileme is on a directory with 9.6 terabytes.
09:46 🔗 ersi git pull done, now uploading~
09:47 🔗 SketchCow I'm sure there's some fuckery here.
09:47 🔗 ersi rsync: failed to connect to fos.textfiles.com: Connection refused (111)
09:48 🔗 alard Hmm. Has the rsync been switched off again?
09:48 🔗 SketchCow Should be back now
09:49 🔗 SketchCow Doesn't autoboot, which I approve of
09:51 🔗 SketchCow So, my schedule.
09:51 🔗 SketchCow I'm not sleeping tonight. Cleaning and packing.
09:51 🔗 SketchCow Tomorrow I go to NYC, do a GET LAMP showing, then a date
09:51 🔗 SketchCow HOT DATE
09:51 🔗 SketchCow Then Saturday ALSO HOT DATE
09:51 🔗 SketchCow Why? Because I go away for a month
09:51 🔗 SketchCow Sunday, CA.
09:52 🔗 Coderjoe http://i.imgur.com/M7iT5.gif
09:52 🔗 ersi Hot date? woo
09:52 🔗 SketchCow CA from the 19th through to the 8th of March
09:52 🔗 SketchCow Then Austin for SXSW.
09:52 🔗 SketchCow For another week.
09:52 🔗 ersi Coderjoe: wät
09:52 🔗 SketchCow Hence, I am LIVING IT AT THE ARCHIVE
09:52 🔗 SketchCow So let's make a difference
09:52 🔗 ersi Man these's a lot of these SXSW's
09:56 🔗 SketchCow http://www.archive.org/details/jamendo-105013
09:56 🔗 SketchCow http://www.jamendo.com/en/album/105013
09:56 🔗 SketchCow \o/
09:56 🔗 SketchCow Yes that is right, motherfuckers
09:56 🔗 ersi awesome
09:56 🔗 ersi I'd say; SAVED!
09:56 🔗 SketchCow The download is GOOOOOOOOOOOOOD
09:59 🔗 SketchCow The best part to me is the music actually serves as good victory music for saving the song
09:59 🔗 SketchCow Cycling rainbow text saying SAVED FROM OBLIVION
10:17 🔗 alard SketchCow: Do you want to set up the memac-mover on fos, or is that something that can wait? (Shouldn't be much harder than installing python, and changing the path names and the name of the Redis queue.)
10:21 🔗 ersi Does rsync continue/re-establish connection if it loses it? Got a sync that's frozen and it's not pumpin'
10:22 🔗 SketchCow We had to install python 2.7, right
10:22 🔗 alard Yes.
10:22 🔗 alard (That is, SketchCow: yes, ersi: No, I think rsync just crashes.)
10:23 🔗 ersi Alrighty.
10:25 🔗 SketchCow Also, people should watch: https://vimeo.com/36579366
10:26 🔗 SketchCow alard, private, let's walk it through while I pack
10:35 🔗 Nemo_bis alard, with the new upload script should I use my tracker nickname (Nemo) or the slot name I had (nemo_bis)?
10:38 🔗 alard Nemo_bis: Please use your tracker nickname.
10:38 🔗 Nemo_bis alard, ok
10:39 🔗 Nemo_bis alard, wait a moment, this way I'm uploading a lot of empty dirs
10:39 🔗 Nemo_bis because I used --remove-source-files before
10:39 🔗 Nemo_bis I guess I should delete those first
10:48 🔗 SketchCow Guys, rebooting fortress
10:48 🔗 SketchCow Maybe
10:49 🔗 ersi Aww, 'k
10:50 🔗 dcmorton we broke it already?
10:51 🔗 SketchCow I'm upgrading the os
10:59 🔗 dcmorton ah.. well let me know if/when i need to kill the rsync
11:01 🔗 ersi it'll kill itself if he reboots :D
11:05 🔗 SketchCow it just rebooted
11:09 🔗 SketchCow Upgraded fine
11:09 🔗 SketchCow Now fuck it, I'm upgrading AGAIN
11:09 🔗 SketchCow Because the upgraded version tells you to upgrade
11:10 🔗 SketchCow Seriously, watch https://vimeo.com/36579366
11:10 🔗 SketchCow Right now
11:20 🔗 SketchCow Hi Jason,
11:20 🔗 SketchCow It's official; the program committee would like to formally invite you to speak at the 12th ACM/IEEE-Computer Society Joint Conference on Digital Libraries (JCDL 2012) in Washington, DC. As a reminder, the dates are Monday 11 June through Wednesday 13 June.
11:20 🔗 SketchCow Let's fuck with minds!
11:22 🔗 SketchCow http://www.jcdl2012.info/
11:22 🔗 dnova very cool
11:30 🔗 SketchCow Bret Victor's talk dovetails EXACTLY with how I do things
11:30 🔗 SketchCow Except of course I am MUCH more angry
11:31 🔗 dnova of course
11:32 🔗 ersi SketchCow: Start rsyncd? :)
11:34 🔗 SketchCow Not yet
11:34 🔗 SketchCow Now I'm in cutting edge.
11:35 🔗 SketchCow OK, Ocelot looks like barf
11:35 🔗 ersi haha
11:35 🔗 SketchCow Going to stick with Natty
11:35 🔗 ersi Yeah, I'd only go for LTS
11:37 🔗 SketchCow Next, let's try some installs
11:46 🔗 SketchCow I'm apparently a big fan of installing major os upgrades using a script written by a 17 year old on a sugar high
11:48 🔗 dnova the best kind of script
11:50 🔗 SketchCow I believe our children are our future
11:50 🔗 SketchCow and apparently our system admins
11:52 🔗 SketchCow Found a weird behavior in this system
11:53 🔗 SketchCow No executable script will execute
11:54 🔗 dnova that doesn't sound great
11:54 🔗 dnova but I am no expert.
11:54 🔗 SketchCow I am 1039% sure it's some security bullshit
12:02 🔗 SketchCow YEah, something's wrong down there
12:02 🔗 SketchCow Regardless, I upgraded the machine to natty so fuck youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu world
14:01 🔗 SketchCow Huggggg
14:02 🔗 emijrp http://library.nu/
14:03 🔗 ersi emijrp: Yes, it's been talked about a day or two ago.
14:04 🔗 emijrp and ... ?
14:04 🔗 ersi Metadata was lost, the material is still out there somewhere - it's "just" a metadata repository
14:04 🔗 ersi also, did I mention it's gone? Nothing to do about it
14:05 🔗 emijrp this fucking site is fucking cool http://gen.lib.rus.ec/ with 800k fucking books, they offer fucking torrents, fucking download before they gone, fucking thanks ftp://free-books.us.to/repository_torrent/
14:07 🔗 BlueMax emijrp: stop with the fucking :P
14:08 🔗 emijrp they are 1000 books batchs
14:08 🔗 underscor Coderjoe: I'm recording www.archive.org as the key, but git-annex uses whatever it 302s to as the file name
14:08 🔗 BlueMax The second link doesn't work for me anyway emijrp
14:08 🔗 emijrp try again
14:08 🔗 emijrp perhaps you are after big australia firewall
14:09 🔗 BlueMax FileZilla won't connect t oit
14:09 🔗 BlueMax *to it
14:09 🔗 emijrp firefox open it
14:09 🔗 BlueMax Can't find server
14:10 🔗 emijrp are you addinf the ftp:// ?
14:10 🔗 BlueMax Yes?
14:10 🔗 emijrp yes
14:11 🔗 BlueMax Replacing it with http:// worked
14:12 🔗 BlueMax Are we supposed to download the contents the torrents link to or just the torrents themselves
14:13 🔗 underscor <SketchCow> I'm apparently a big fan of installing major os upgrades using a script written by a 17 year old on a sugar high
14:13 🔗 underscor I didn't do any major OS upgrades in that script!
14:13 🔗 underscor Although, that *is* the best way to upgrade a system
14:13 🔗 underscor Just saying
14:14 🔗 BlueMax Is it just me or are these torrents listing files with long names and no extensions
14:15 🔗 emijrp yes
14:15 🔗 emijrp they name files as md5 hashes
14:15 🔗 emijrp to avoid adding dupes
14:16 🔗 emijrp magnets links l0l0l0l0 ftp://free-books.us.to/repository_torrent/magnet-links.txt
14:16 🔗 underscor Man, this jcdl thing looks neat, SketchCow
14:16 🔗 underscor Ooh, I'll be out of school
14:16 🔗 underscor Doesn't look like it's something you can just reg for though
14:17 🔗 Pin3Con3 I keep a cellular/Cell-band radio jammer running in the trunk of my car.
14:17 🔗 Pin3Con3 I love seeing people shouting into their phones as I drive by
14:17 🔗 Pin3Con3 LOL! I'm going to stick it in a box, send to Lisbon on a 10Hr 9vt delay switch and power amp. LoL ... Take that bird the fuck OUT over the north atlantic!
14:17 🔗 Pin3Con3 paper maps?
14:19 🔗 underscor ?
14:20 🔗 underscor emijrp: BlueMax What is this torrent you're talking about?
14:20 🔗 emijrp books
14:21 🔗 emijrp a ton
14:21 🔗 ersi underscor: It's the library.nu / free-books.us.to / gen.lib.rus.ec talk again
14:22 🔗 emijrp are they archived ?
14:22 🔗 underscor Oh, awesome
14:22 🔗 underscor Not currently
14:22 🔗 underscor Wonder if IA's interested
14:22 🔗 ersi sketchy wasn't very interested
14:23 🔗 underscor probably because you used that name ;)
14:23 🔗 underscor He hates it when people call him that
14:23 🔗 BlueMax Unfortunately I don't have anywhere near the net quota to archive this so I can't help :|
14:23 🔗 underscor How big is it?
14:23 🔗 emijrp 2tb+ probably
14:24 🔗 BlueMax what he said
14:24 🔗 BlueMax I don't even get 250GB a month
14:24 🔗 BlueMax The covers for all the books are 20GB alone
14:24 🔗 ersi underscor: Nah, I never do it when he's around
14:25 🔗 underscor I suppose this site is of a questionable legal status, right?
14:25 🔗 underscor Like how library.nu was
14:25 🔗 ersi of course
14:25 🔗 underscor ersi: ha
14:25 🔗 underscor Yeah
14:25 🔗 underscor Still, it's a pretty important repository
14:25 🔗 emijrp p2p is legal in Spain
14:25 🔗 underscor I'm surprised no one's shut it down
14:25 🔗 emijrp enjoy your freedom land
14:25 🔗 BlueMax I'm trying to get that file that appears to be a list of the books but can't even get 10kbps on it
14:26 🔗 ersi emijrp: enjoy your habla espanjololol
14:26 🔗 underscor Is there a list of the metadata for each md5?
14:26 🔗 underscor ersi: hahahaha
14:26 🔗 emijrp ersi podemos hablar en esp
14:26 🔗 emijrp si lo prefieres, claro
14:26 🔗 BlueMax need sleep
14:27 🔗 underscor tengo mucho suen~o :(
14:27 🔗 emijrp you laugh about my english, but i would like to see you writing in spanish
14:27 🔗 ersi English isn't my primary language either
14:28 🔗 emijrp magnet links are slow
14:28 🔗 ersi I can go get the logs from when we talked about this e-book thing earlier if anyone's interested btw
14:29 🔗 underscor Pienso que Ersi necesitan su licencia de ingles revocado.
14:29 🔗 underscor How good did I do there?
14:29 🔗 Nemo_bis creating a torrent with all the stuff would already be a good thing
14:29 🔗 underscor haha
14:29 🔗 emijrp not bad
14:29 🔗 underscor I thought these were already in torrents?
14:29 🔗 underscor emijrp: Thanks
14:29 🔗 emijrp Nemo_bis: batches are better
14:29 🔗 underscor 3 years of spanish ftw
14:30 🔗 Nemo_bis btw emijrp GARR refused to mirror Wikimedia dumps for now because of possibly questionable copyright status of some parts of them
14:30 🔗 underscor emijrp: Your english is fine, btw, don't listen to ersi
14:30 🔗 Nemo_bis GARR = Italian GEANT partner
14:30 🔗 underscor It's better than half the native speakers in my school
14:30 🔗 underscor haha
14:30 🔗 Nemo_bis eheh
14:30 🔗 underscor I use mirror.garr.it a lot
14:30 🔗 Nemo_bis orly
14:31 🔗 emijrp Nemo_bis: copyvios in texts and images ?
14:31 🔗 Nemo_bis they have 120×2 TB now
14:31 🔗 Nemo_bis emijrp, just text
14:31 🔗 emijrp thanks underscor , i do my best, but if people understand me, that is enough for me, of course i'm funny to read sometimes by my mistakes
14:32 🔗 ersi I'm am not picking or have been picking on his English language skills
14:32 🔗 underscor ha
14:33 🔗 underscor emijrp: They probably feel the same way about me when I practice my spanish in the grocery store/fast food place/bank/elsewhere
14:33 🔗 underscor Nemo_bis: 120x2TB space at GARR?
14:33 🔗 underscor Or 120x2TB of content at wikipedia?
14:33 🔗 underscor ersi: Just giving you a hard time
14:34 🔗 ersi just explainin'
14:35 🔗 underscor <3
14:35 🔗 underscor I can't believe that meme is still in the topic
14:36 🔗 ersi haha, yeah
14:36 🔗 ersi it's full of win
14:38 🔗 Nemo_bis underscor, space at GARR
14:38 🔗 Nemo_bis and 10 Gb/s bandwidth at least in theory
14:38 🔗 underscor Daaaaayum
14:42 🔗 texasbmxi How can i get my old geocities page back
14:42 🔗 texasbmxi ?
14:42 🔗 nitro2k01 You decide to get it back, and then you do it
14:43 🔗 texasbmxi Neat, then go huff some nitro.
14:44 🔗 nitro2k01 Try the torrent or some of the links in the description http://thepiratebay.se/torrent/5923737/Geocities_-_The_Torrent
14:45 🔗 emijrp try archive.org
14:45 🔗 underscor [#1 SIZE:9.0MiB/19,666.1MiB(0%) CN:8 SEED:2 SPD:153.6KiBs UP:9.2MiBs ETA:36h23m01s]
14:45 🔗 texasbmxi Thank you
14:45 🔗 underscor Hot damn, this is popular
14:45 🔗 underscor (covers.iso.torrent)
14:46 🔗 texasbmxi archive .org, dont work
14:47 🔗 nitro2k01 What was the address to your site?
14:47 🔗 underscor texasbmxi: The links in that torrent are good, or in the archive team geocities dump on archiveorg
14:47 🔗 emijrp that is the broken unpatched torrent
14:48 🔗 texasbmxi geocities.com/bmxpunge/PrueTrails.html
14:49 🔗 texasbmxi Are these files, a database?
14:49 🔗 texasbmxi You just search and hope you find it?
14:50 🔗 texasbmxi The one on the torrent
14:51 🔗 underscor emijrp: Do you know if they have the metadata available for these md5s?
14:52 🔗 emijrp there is a sql dump, i guess that contains title, desc, year, md5
14:52 🔗 emijrp http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8985160/backup-last.rar
14:53 🔗 emijrp thanks for asking, im going to search for pre-1900 books
14:56 🔗 X-Scale I wonder if there is some kind of "good set" initiative for science and tech books.
15:02 🔗 underscor emijrp: Where'd you get that dump from?
15:02 🔗 underscor Is it available onsite?
15:03 🔗 emijrp in the above menu download/mysql
15:06 🔗 Nemo_bis texasbmxi, did you find it?
15:06 🔗 Nemo_bis you have to download the archive with all profiles starting with those letters
15:20 🔗 texasbmxi If someone already has the downloaded files here, can you help me figure out how to download the file that would have geocities.com/Bmxpunge
15:20 🔗 texasbmxi Dont really want to download a million 100 mb
15:21 🔗 Nemo_bis there's no way
15:21 🔗 Nemo_bis you have to download all pieces of that archive and uncompress it
15:21 🔗 Nemo_bis or rather, use it all to extract your piece
15:21 🔗 nitro2k01 Probably LOWERCASE/geocities-b-m.7z.001 if the name was written in lowercase
15:23 🔗 emijrp and this, man, is the usability of archive team projects
15:24 🔗 texasbmxi thanks, got it, trying now
15:25 🔗 ersi It's a hassle, but it's better than nothin'
15:26 🔗 closure SketchCow: too bad you have Ubuntu natty and not Oneiric. Oneiric has git-annex available in apt-get
15:27 🔗 emijrp ahahaha ersi has the need of reply to every comment of mine
15:28 🔗 SketchCow Hi, the both of you, shut up, daddy loves both of you equally
15:29 🔗 emijrp ok mom
15:30 🔗 SketchCow I'm adding oneiric then.
15:30 🔗 Nemo_bis Well, I've had to download some 2-300 GB of archives, sometimes hundreds of 100 MB pieces just to check each variation of a username I didn't remember exactly
15:31 🔗 closure (yeah, so it's been too fucking many years since I was a teenager on mtn dew posting ambitious shell scripts to install stuff..)
15:32 🔗 texasbmxi can you retrieve photos along with your site
15:32 🔗 texasbmxi ?
15:32 🔗 texasbmxi you know, if you find it and all
15:35 🔗 texasbmxi damn, no seeders
15:35 🔗 ersi What trackers are listed in your client?
15:36 🔗 SketchCow Weird the download is so slow for oneiric
15:36 🔗 SketchCow But I'm doing it
15:36 🔗 texasbmxi there it goes, sweet, someone heard my comment
15:36 🔗 texasbmxi haha
15:36 🔗 texasbmxi fricken gnar
15:37 🔗 emijrp why download from torrent? you have a copy on archive.org
15:37 🔗 texasbmxi archive.org doesnt work
15:37 🔗 texasbmxi damn it now it does
15:38 🔗 SketchCow After twelve hours, literally twelve, of cleaning, my room has slowly moved from 'Hoarder' to 'He seems rather industrious'
15:38 🔗 emijrp http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=geocities%20snapshot
15:38 🔗 SketchCow emijrp: You saw my thing about Jamendo, right
15:38 🔗 SketchCow We've been kickin' the ass on it
15:38 🔗 emijrp sure
15:39 🔗 SketchCow We've now officially gotten stuff that was soon deleted after.
15:39 🔗 emijrp i will check it soon
15:40 🔗 ersi 10:56 <@SketchCow> http://www.archive.org/details/jamendo-105013
15:40 🔗 ersi 10:56 <@SketchCow> http://www.jamendo.com/en/album/105013
15:40 🔗 ersi ^_^
15:41 🔗 emijrp Spirit probaly has more deleted albums, he started to download jamendo in 2010?
15:41 🔗 texasbmxi ok so what do i do with the 7z file?
15:42 🔗 Nemo_bis the reality is that they felt free to delete it because they knew it was saved on IA :p
15:42 🔗 Nemo_bis just kiding
15:42 🔗 Nemo_bis texasbmxi, open it if you have a serious archive manager and look for your directory
15:42 🔗 Nemo_bis otherwise, uncompress it and look for your directory when it'sfinished
15:42 🔗 texasbmxi i downloaded 7 zip, guess i dont have an archive manager, what do you reccomend?
15:43 🔗 emijrp 7zip-lib
15:43 🔗 emijrp or winrar
15:43 🔗 Nemo_bis texasbmxi, OS?
15:43 🔗 texasbmxi that is an archive manager?
15:43 🔗 texasbmxi windows 7 64
15:43 🔗 Nemo_bis texasbmxi, http://www.7-zip.org/
15:44 🔗 texasbmxi i already downloaded it
15:44 🔗 texasbmxi but when you extract the file, then what?
15:44 🔗 texasbmxi there is another file
15:45 🔗 emijrp which extension ?
15:45 🔗 texasbmxi figured it out thanks
15:46 🔗 texasbmxi still havent found it
15:46 🔗 Nemo_bis not everything was downloaded...
15:46 🔗 Nemo_bis but look closely
15:51 🔗 texasbmxi it seems like a minor fraction was downloaded
15:52 🔗 texasbmxi I think i had my name uppercase, Bmxpunge, but........ there is no B-m file
15:56 🔗 underscor emijrp: Oh, hey, there it is
15:56 🔗 underscor Thanks!
16:02 🔗 texasbmxi Welp, this is neat, but looks like my site wasnt saved........ RIP
16:05 🔗 SketchCow Type http://www.reocities.com/yoursite
16:05 🔗 SketchCow What was your site.
16:06 🔗 Schbirid he is gone :(
16:08 🔗 emijrp why IA don't publish an index or a search engine?
16:09 🔗 SketchCow They do
16:09 🔗 emijrp for all archived websites?
16:09 🔗 emijrp where?
16:09 🔗 SketchCow Oh, for wayback
16:09 🔗 SketchCow No, they don't do that.
16:10 🔗 SketchCow archive.org itself has a search and an index.
16:15 🔗 Nemo_bis not within *_files.xml
16:15 🔗 Nemo_bis I guess this is what emijrp wants, he asked it before :)
16:16 🔗 Nemo_bis at some point he'll just crawl the whole IA and create a DB
16:17 🔗 emijrp i was asking now for a Google of all WayBack.
16:17 🔗 emijrp A public database of all the _files.xml indexes would be great too.
16:24 🔗 underscor archive.org allows google to crawl it
16:24 🔗 underscor SketchCow: It wasn't on reocities, I checked :(
16:26 🔗 underscor emijrp: They don't have the resources for a public search of everything in the wayback
16:31 🔗 emijrp the gray web http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_literature
20:08 🔗 yipdw apropos of nothing: Total Ghost is a hilarious group
21:49 🔗 emijrp http://www.searchdaimon.com/community/dataset/
21:50 🔗 Nemo_bis This dataset consist of 67 537 Wikipedia articles converted to Word format.
21:50 🔗 Nemo_bis O_O
21:51 🔗 emijrp lul
21:51 🔗 emijrp they also added geocities to the bottom
21:51 🔗 Nemo_bis yep
21:51 🔗 Nemo_bis the first is entirely useless now
21:52 🔗 Nemo_bis you can create odt with Collection extension
21:52 🔗 emijrp nothing is useless for a data hoarder
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