#archiveteam 2012-02-20,Mon

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00:00 🔗 SketchCow ren oops ../newdirectory/oops
00:00 🔗 SketchCow or ren oldidrectory/ooops newdirectory/ooops
00:03 🔗 godane done that
00:03 🔗 godane now i remove the old linux_format_73_cd folder
00:04 🔗 SketchCow Nah, leave it.
00:04 🔗 SketchCow Now go check in
00:04 🔗 godane i removed that old folder
00:04 🔗 godane i'm checking in
00:07 🔗 godane it still happened
00:07 🔗 godane Item submission error! reason: The identifier chosen is already taken. You will need to try an alternate identifier
00:08 🔗 godane i got a blank page before that
00:13 🔗 godane it looks like nothing gets moved from my account
00:14 🔗 godane this may explain why there was older folder i upload months ago
00:15 🔗 godane this one i uploaded months ago: http://www.archive.org/details/Ctrl_Alt_Chicken
00:16 🔗 godane i also get this now: Desired identifier "cdrom-linux-format-73" not available. Please try another identifier.
00:16 🔗 godane when i reload this page: http://www.archive.org/create.php?ftp=1&identifier=cdrom-linux-format-73
00:17 🔗 SketchCow I am finding the queue on archive.org is broken.
00:18 🔗 SketchCow I'll mention it to the admins
00:23 🔗 godane whats weird is that linux action show got upload just fine
00:23 🔗 godane so i may not be everyone that is having this problem
00:23 🔗 godane http://www.archive.org/details/Kde4.8ReviewLasS20e07
00:24 🔗 godane anyway i have backup linux format 132 dvd to my hard drive
00:26 🔗 godane also where are the 2600 magzines on archive.org?
00:26 🔗 godane only cause i would think that would have be scanned in to up to 2005ish
00:27 🔗 undersco2 SketchCow: metadata table is currently frozen
00:27 🔗 undersco2 That's why we're having all these issues
00:28 🔗 undersco2 Tasks have been paused since 11:40AM est
00:28 🔗 undersco2 It is now 68% complete
00:28 🔗 undersco2 In 8 hours
00:28 🔗 undersco2 :(
00:29 🔗 godane http://ia600804.us.archive.org/11/items/Kde4.8ReviewLasS20e07/
00:29 🔗 godane again the LAS release there show at 22:57
00:30 🔗 undersco2 http://www.us.archive.org/log_show.php?task_id=96796984
00:30 🔗 SketchCow Well there you go
00:30 🔗 undersco2 The tasks start, but don't complete
00:31 🔗 undersco2 Because the table is locked
00:31 🔗 undersco2 So the metadata update blocks the task until $archiveops unlocks the table/completes the migration
01:07 🔗 chronomex why is it locked?
01:17 🔗 undersco2 They're adding some columns or something
01:19 🔗 SketchCow fucked_with_by_underscor
01:19 🔗 yipdw BOOL default true
01:19 🔗 undersco2 :D
01:19 🔗 undersco2 I love you gaiz
01:33 🔗 chronomex lolz
01:33 🔗 undersco2 godane: [8:13:42 PM EDT] Anand Chitipothu: We are about 70% done and 950 locked rows.
01:33 🔗 undersco2 FYI
01:34 🔗 chronomex well, I play around with postgres all the time and don't have to lock tables to add columns
01:34 🔗 chronomex so clearly these guys who've been doing it for years are rank amateurs
01:34 🔗 chronomex </internet_mode>
01:36 🔗 SketchCow Really.
01:36 🔗 SketchCow Interal coding skype channels.
01:36 🔗 SketchCow Copy-pasted.
01:36 🔗 SketchCow Let me say it again: Don't do that
01:36 🔗 chronomex yes, please don't.
01:45 🔗 yipdw wait wat
01:45 🔗 yipdw ALTER TABLE in Postgres requires an ACCESS EXCLUSIVE lock
01:45 🔗 yipdw how did you
01:45 🔗 yipdw oh wait
01:46 🔗 yipdw I missed internet mode
02:00 🔗 undersco2 :x
02:04 🔗 undersco2 it's done now.
02:06 🔗 undersco2 although there will be more steps
02:11 🔗 yipdw http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-DK2MT3wzbiA/TzNRRLAdtmI/AAAAAAAANV8/XXZS-3R30Z0/s1600/9902017.jpg
02:11 🔗 yipdw 41 YEARS LATER
02:11 🔗 yipdw dick.
03:23 🔗 underscor table locked again, fyi
07:01 🔗 undersco2 More deps for git-annex
07:02 🔗 undersco2 Need the libpcre3-dev package
07:07 🔗 arrith undersco2: if you're going through all that you might just go the extra step of reading up on ubuntu/debian packaging
07:07 🔗 undersco2 True
07:09 🔗 undersco2 The fact that you can just do this astounds me still
07:09 🔗 undersco2 (merging origin/git-annex into git-annex...)
07:09 🔗 undersco2 0 2:04AM:alex@alex-desktop:/media/09369c8b-3596-48ef-9317-7a432b5c4d50/ia-DriveInMovieAds 594 π git annex whereis Drive-inFireworksShow/DriveIn-FireworksShow.divx
07:09 🔗 undersco2 00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000001 -- web
07:09 🔗 undersco2 web: http://archive.org/download/Drive-inFireworksShow/DriveIn-FireworksShow.divx
07:09 🔗 undersco2 whereis Drive-inFireworksShow/DriveIn-FireworksShow.divx (1 copy)
07:09 🔗 undersco2 ok
07:09 🔗 undersco2 That's SO CRAZY
07:09 🔗 undersco2 closure: <3
07:10 🔗 arrith heh
07:11 🔗 arrith just need a robot arm + dvd burner + racks of dvds
07:15 🔗 arrith https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete
07:15 🔗 arrith https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide
07:16 🔗 arrith https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide
07:17 🔗 arrith also dang, i know i've been linked to really good stuff on debian packaging
07:17 🔗 arrith just not sure where i have those links
07:17 🔗 chronomex useful information on debian packaging is embargoed for release in early 2035
07:22 🔗 arrith hardy har
07:23 🔗 arrith er
07:23 🔗 arrith http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/download-ubuntu-packaging-guide-pdf.html
07:23 🔗 arrith was supposed to be last link
07:24 🔗 ersi I have to say, it's quite amazing to be connected when zooming around in 100-160km/h
07:30 🔗 arrith simple: http://wiki.debian.org/IntroDebianPackaging
07:30 🔗 arrith more advanced: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/
07:31 🔗 arrith http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/
07:31 🔗 arrith even simpler: http://askubuntu.com/questions/27715/create-a-deb-package-from-scripts-or-binaries
07:31 🔗 arrith mk done
07:46 🔗 yipdw huh, I issued 650 HTTP requests to a service at work
07:46 🔗 yipdw next thing I know, the production Oracle database starts issuing errors
07:46 🔗 yipdw I hope those aren't related events, because I have no way to fix said Oracle db
07:48 🔗 yipdw oh well
07:49 🔗 yipdw I guess this means it's time to play more Deus Ex
07:49 🔗 ersi yupp!
10:32 🔗 godane ok this works now: http://www.archive.org/details/cdrom-linux-format-73
10:32 🔗 godane but its not a movie, audio, or text files
10:33 🔗 godane do you want me to put it under community texts?
10:33 🔗 ersi yeah, don't care so much - it's just automagic discovery of the format
10:33 🔗 ersi oh, it's not public yet.. tried to view it :p
10:34 🔗 godane i have to setup the details first
10:34 🔗 ersi yeah, never mind me :)
10:36 🔗 godane how do i change media type to software
10:52 🔗 ersi I think that is automatic on the file extention
11:12 🔗 godane archive.org is not updating
11:30 🔗 chronomex they may still be doing maintenance
11:33 🔗 ersi ah, right. They were updating their database table structures/schemas earlier
12:29 🔗 godane so anything new with archive.org?
12:30 🔗 godane its still not doing my job
12:30 🔗 godane http://www.us.archive.org/log_show.php?task_id=96806391
12:35 🔗 ersi guess there's a large queue of stuff to do for them perhaps
12:39 🔗 godane i want a petabox for some reason
12:39 🔗 godane but about the size of a netbook one
15:38 🔗 godane http://www.theblaze.com/stories/greece-under-pressure-becks-amazing-midnight-visit-to-athens/
15:38 🔗 godane old buildings in greece are getting burned down it seems
15:46 🔗 Ymgve eh, they've survived for thousands of years already
15:47 🔗 godane my iso's are up: http://www.archive.org/details/cdrom-linux-format-73
15:50 🔗 ersi Heh, wonder how fast fos is filling up it's disk
16:22 🔗 Schbirid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7a7-5WYOKxE
18:07 🔗 undersco2 Twitter> @BillWeiss: Once again, wondering if those sounds mean our tape library is working or consuming the tapes. Hmm.
18:44 🔗 SketchCow Burp
18:45 🔗 undersco2 Welcome back
18:50 🔗 ersi So how's Fortress doing? Fill'er up yet?
18:52 🔗 undersco2 haha
18:53 🔗 ersi is that a no?
18:53 🔗 undersco2 dunno
18:57 🔗 SketchCow You've all uploaded about 1.3tb of data to fos
18:57 🔗 yipdw fos filling fairly fast
19:00 🔗 undersco2 SketchCow: Will you run the df updater on fos?
19:00 🔗 undersco2 while true;do curl "http://pubsub.pubnub.com/publish/demo/demo/0/batcave_disk/0/%22 1 `df -h /1|awk '{print $4}'|tail -n1`<br> 2 `df -h /2|awk '{print $4}'|tail -n1`<br>3 `df -h /3|awk '{print $4}'|tail -n1`%22";sleep 30;done
19:01 🔗 undersco2 That makes this page work
19:01 🔗 undersco2 http://tracker.archive.org/df.html
19:01 🔗 undersco2 <3
19:06 🔗 undersco2 I've made it my mission to pass dcmorton on the tracker
19:06 🔗 undersco2 :D
19:06 🔗 SketchCow No.
19:06 🔗 SketchCow No, I will not.
19:08 🔗 undersco2 Ok
19:10 🔗 dashcloud I thought you guys might enjoy this article on some old computers still in active use: http://www.pcworld.com/article/249951/if_it_aint_broke_dont_fix_it_ancient_computers_in_use_today.html (running from some truly ancient to just old)
19:12 🔗 ersi If it is broke, fix it fix it fix it!
19:12 🔗 ersi undersco2: I'm aiming for #4 on Top 10 :p
19:17 🔗 SketchCow Who was it who pointed out the jamendo album that was darkened out.
19:17 🔗 SketchCow Well, whoever it was: IA policy is to dark out if owner requests, regardless of license. (i.e. non-hostile.)
19:17 🔗 SketchCow That's why. So it was done knowingly. Nobody likes it, but it's policy.
19:17 🔗 SketchCow Meanwhile, listen to this: http://www.archive.org/details/jamendo-106076
19:17 🔗 SketchCow Aww yeah
19:18 🔗 undersco2 Man, that's infectious
19:20 🔗 Schbirid "Sorry, this album is either hidden or has been deleted" at jamendo
19:20 🔗 Schbirid might be copyright infringement
19:21 🔗 Schbirid SketchCow: if you link to jamendo without the /en/ it will default to a geolocated version of the site or the user preferences
19:21 🔗 * Schbirid reads up
19:21 🔗 Schbirid damn, but thanks
19:26 🔗 SketchCow Will it now.
19:27 🔗 undersco2 http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/430258_2742556406214_1326570115_3497876_1126876312_n.jpg
19:27 🔗 SketchCow OK, I made the change, /en/ is out, it'll do that from now on.
19:29 🔗 SketchCow The Telegraph wrote a negative review of the film, saying "How could it not be brilliant? By, at 85 minutes, being an hour too long. By being arch rather than schlocky. And by wasting too much time on dull dialogue celebrating its "No Reason" philosophy."
19:30 🔗 Schbirid cheers
19:30 🔗 Schbirid rubber was rather me
19:30 🔗 Schbirid meh
19:30 🔗 Schbirid it was too artsy for me
19:30 🔗 Schbirid could have been great without the meta stuff
19:56 🔗 tef http://blog.convore.com/post/17951919109/convore-shutting-down-april-1st
19:56 🔗 yipdw april fool's
19:56 🔗 tef bit early
19:57 🔗 tef and yeah it does seem like it's going
19:59 🔗 tef and hard to wget
20:00 🔗 yipdw their other product seems weird to me
20:01 🔗 yipdw in that I'm not sure which demographic they're targeting
20:02 🔗 yipdw I mean, if you need a chat system, you can use (1) an internal Jabber server, (2) an internal IRC server, (3) any existing IRC network, (4) Campfire
20:02 🔗 yipdw sorted roughly in descending order of information security
20:09 🔗 tef it's campfire but with irc support
20:13 🔗 Schbirid really liking http://www.jamendo.com/album/106575
20:15 🔗 tef yipdw: I think the founder appears on another irc channel
20:16 🔗 yipdw tef: hmm
20:17 🔗 tef I figure if they can knock up a read-only version it would be easier to archive
20:17 🔗 tef if they don't I am sure I can capture it
20:19 🔗 tef but it seems to be falling over
21:15 🔗 Schbirid hm, now my archive.org item does not show new uploads being added to it while it did so yesterday (still s3'ing)
21:15 🔗 Schbirid hey emijrp
21:34 🔗 kennethre tef: re: archiving it
21:34 🔗 tef lo
21:34 🔗 kennethre (convore)
21:34 🔗 kennethre tef: i know the founders failrly well
21:34 🔗 kennethre we can just tap them on the shoulder
21:34 🔗 kennethre lol
21:34 🔗 tef I figured as much
21:34 🔗 kennethre you're right though, i can't even get a non-500 page right now.
21:34 🔗 tef if they make a nice read-only version than can wget it themselves and send us warcs :v
21:35 🔗 kennethre google http cache
21:35 🔗 tef will miss all the embeds. and then more code to strip their header
21:36 🔗 kennethre i literally almost offered to maintain it for free because i loved it so much
21:36 🔗 kennethre still tempted to, but a bit late for that i think.
21:37 🔗 yipdw huh
21:37 🔗 yipdw TIL that P3P fails open
21:38 🔗 tef tbh if they just hosted a read-only ver it would make archiving it easier, we'd have more time to capture it. rather than leaving it running and then turning it off
21:38 🔗 kennethre tef: i may be able to get a db dump or something
21:38 🔗 kennethre is having it in web-form ideal?
21:39 🔗 tef well it's nicer to view and use
21:39 🔗 tef I was thinking more of crawling it and then trying and pushing it into the wayback machine
21:39 🔗 kennethre the site barely works right now
21:39 🔗 tef yeah
21:39 🔗 yipdw i.e. the set of tokens in a P3P compact policy set restrictions, not permissions
21:39 🔗 kennethre maybe i'll shoot leah a message
21:40 🔗 yipdw so if you have a bunch of unparseable crap in a P3P header (like say Google) then it is the same as saying "we don't track you at all, no no!"
21:40 🔗 yipdw what a worthless spec, heh
21:41 🔗 tef kennethre: I can acquire work time & resources to capture it although knowing how big it would be would help
21:43 🔗 kennethre parsing it would be terrible
21:43 🔗 kennethre sometimes there are 60+s response times
21:44 🔗 kennethre i'm going to shoot an email to leah
21:46 🔗 kennethre tef: i'll keep you posted
21:47 🔗 kennethre did archive team get anything when pownce went down?
21:53 🔗 kennethre tef: email sent
22:01 🔗 kennethre tef: no luck

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