[00:01] enable join/part messages [00:01] Oic [00:02] My location: Woodbridge, United States [00:02] Oops [00:02] that's a nifty button [00:02] now I know what you look like AND WHERE YOU ARE [00:02] IDENTITY THEFT GO [00:02] Sorta [00:02] Hahahaha [00:03] is your client really called AndroIRC? [00:03] that's hilarious [00:03] AndroIRC: IRC FOR MEN [00:11] Already got your photo, undersco2 [00:12] hmm [00:12] "While malware is one of the biggest security challenges on personal computers, itâs hardly an issue on a Mac." [00:12] (meaning, of course that when you buy a Mac, it is not yours) [00:55] http://www-testflip.archive.org/upload/ [00:55] We've been asked to test this. [00:55] Make the item names test-(whatever) [00:55] so test-nutsack test-whatever [00:55] Anyone who wants to blast with it, go ahead, this will be the new uploader. [01:54] alard: The word cloud seems not to be working. [01:57] seems to work http://www-testflip.archive.org/details/test-whatever [02:00] DFJustin: What browser? [02:00] Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.2; WOW64; rv:12.0a2) Gecko/20120222 Firefox/12.0a2 [02:06] Thanks. [02:09] if you close the tab partway through the upload, it goes ahead and creates an empty item [03:47] http://i.imgur.com/EFExs.jpg [04:02] bloody hell, does he have a polarized antenna setup on his car roof? how many watts is he running through that mess? [04:02] or is he just selling antennas and that's the easiest way to ship em [04:02] to the hamfest [04:02] http://i.imgur.com/OAlxK.jpg [04:03] he has three stacks of radios over on the passenger side, which you can kinda see in that cruddy picture [04:03] hell looks like he has a whole hamshack set up in there [04:03] i wonder if he can work DX from on the road [04:04] the problem is with the required wattage wouldn't you cause RF burns to yourself or something? i know the roof acts as a giant reflector but even so... [04:04] well, there is that, if he is DXing (which I doubt) [04:05] but also, unless he has filtering on all of those, when he keys up one radio, he'd fry the front end of every other radio [04:05] he probably has a manual (or motorized) antenna switch to switch between band arrays [04:06] no, I am certain he has each antenna hooked up to a different radio [04:06] and given all the other stuff he has he probably has filters on everything [04:06] like I said, there are three stacks of independant radios in the space the passenger would normally sit [04:06] is it possible he was transporting merch to a hamfest? [04:06] I still have no idea wtf he needs it all for [04:06] or was everything hooked up [04:07] well if you want to monitor 5 stations on each of the ham bands at once... [04:07] no idea. I saw this in the parking lot for the county skywarn training session [04:07] or maybe the setup is a giant mobile repeater [04:07] for several bands [04:07] if you want to receive-only, you just need one antenna [04:07] true [04:08] (per band) [04:08] i'm guessing mobile repeater then [04:08] (or a good multi-band antenna) [04:08] but there would be plenty of space for that elsewhere in the jeep [04:09] there would be no reason to put it all in the passenger seat [04:09] maybe its a rental [04:09] who knows [04:09] there has to be an interesting story behind it [04:09] quite whackeriffic, though [04:10] i wonder if someone on #hamradio knows whose rig it is [04:10] can i ask? [04:14] this should scare some librarians http://interbutt.com/temp/dopefishjustin_archiveteam.jpg [04:15] LordNlptp: which rig? [04:19] excessive use of antennas.. [04:19] yeah, that's probably ham [04:19] but it looks like a couple of uhf mil antennas, too.. but you can use those for the ham band also [04:19] i wish the pic of the equip was more detailed.. i could have told you exactly what was in there [04:19] that's like 30 of the same antenna.. looks like mfj dual banders.. for ham radio freqs [08:24] so the 3.5" floppy autoloader is now at my house. perhaps I should set it up and take a different picture with it loaded up with disks [08:27] cute [08:28] Coderjoe, how much does it take to rescue a floppy? [08:28] Also, is it documented on our wiki? :) [08:28] what do you mean? [08:28] the autoloader is just an rs232-controlled thing around a floppy drive [08:29] though I would love it if I could use the duplicator drive (2xSDS) with the kryoflux [08:29] ah [08:30] I thought it was some automatic floppy feeder for a kryoflux or something :p [08:30] (it spins at double-speed and is wired up to read or write both sides simultaneously) [08:30] nah. [08:31] have to connect it to a computer for control. I do intend to use a KF with it, though [08:32] I also need to find my powershot A620 and mount it looking down at the output bin, so I can script stuff to insert a floppy, image it, eject, and then take a shot of the label (if there is a label, anyway) to more easily identify the floppy [08:32] though I might wind up just having to keep the floppies in some storage box in the same order they were in the autoloader [08:35] heh [08:35] * yipdw is archiving animemusicvideos.org [08:35] haha [08:35] well, metadata [08:36] they might hate this [08:36] I've wanted to mirror local storage [08:36] what is that, two terabytes? [08:36] I don't remember. perhaps I could bug derobert and find out. [08:37] lol oops [08:37] I, [2012-02-24T02:38:22.565803 #12131] INFO -- : Video 297 does not exist [08:37] connection refused: www.animemusicvideos.org:80 [08:37] haha [08:37] that was only 8 simultaneous connections, too [08:37] YOUSUB&! [08:37] er, SO [08:38] I guess I'll go back down to 4 [08:38] are you using the normal web interface or the kinda-ajaxy interface? [08:39] (ISTR there being some urls to just get the metadata for a given video) [08:40] oh, web [08:42] I'm happy to use an API if one exists [08:45] but so far screen-scraping is working ok [08:45] http://amv.iriscouch.com/_utils/document.html?amv/a819966eab4dda6a8b8672334d6f3b75 [08:45] etc. [08:46] there is unfortunately no way to get all opinion data [08:47] well, there is a way, but it involves inside access... [08:47] well, ok [08:47] there is unfortunately no public way to get all opinion data [08:48] I mean, I could just ask for a MySQL dump :P [08:48] argh. [08:48] working copy missing [08:51] SketchCow: The statusboard's wordcloud still works, I think, but they will only appear if it can get the text of the item. Most of the Shenzhen items are blocked. [08:54] today's shirt.woot.com might interest some of you [11:08] O_O [11:08] http://www.flickr.com/photos/caseydubois/6720621733/in/photostream/ [14:29] yipdw: (meaning, of course that when you buy a Mac, it is not yours) [14:29] Huh? [14:34] http://www.reddit.com/r/trackers/comments/hrgmv/tracker_with_pdfsebooks_of_college_textbooks/c1xrq44 [16:37] balrog: snark [16:37] what [16:37] 08:30:36 yipdw: (meaning, of course that when you buy a Mac, it is not yours) [16:37] 08:30:37 Huh? [16:37] yeah, what [16:38] the passage I quoted off of Apple's website can be interpreted as drawing a division between "personal computers", i.e. computers that are someone's property, and Macs [16:38] ahh, nitpicking about common usage of the term "PC". [16:38] I get it. [16:38] one snarky way to interpret such a division is that Macs are not personal computers [16:38] etc [16:39] PCs have come to mean "windows-based computers" in common usage [16:39] I know [16:39] but they don't use "PC" [16:39] it actually says "personal computers" [16:39] link? [16:39] http://www.apple.com/macosx/mountain-lion/security.html [16:40] I am pretty sure that they are not trying to say that you do not own the Mac [16:40] but it is still funny for a pedant [16:41] FWIW, I think Gatekeeper's defaults are very reasonable [16:41] I think what they're saying is that malware is a big challenge on all personal computers (including Macs) [16:41] a challenge that they have to solve [16:41] and that the user shouldn't have to deal with [16:41] right, I think that's the intentio [16:41] n [16:41] Gatekeeper isn't bad, though it's somewhat broken in the 10.7.3 implementation [16:42] it's in Lion? [16:42] right-clicking and selecting open from the context menu is supposed to override GateKeeper âÂ it doesn't [16:42] yeah [16:42] hmm [16:42] there is Gatekeeper in Lion but it's off [16:42] probably because it's broke :p [16:42] broken* [16:42] I'm still stuck on Snow Leopard at work [16:42] because of fucking Oracle bulshit [16:42] bullshit too [16:42] Gatekeeper only affects stuff that would be covered by quarantine anyway [16:42] you're familiar with quarantine? [16:43] not beyond it being the mechanism that makes it possible to say "This file was downloaded by [X], do you want to open it" [16:44] yeah, that's what I mean [16:44] well gatekeeper hooks into that [16:44] if a file already has been approved, it won't be constantly rechecked [16:44] however certs will be checked for revocation [16:44] I just hope apple doesn't charge the $99/yr for a cert [16:45] yeah, I'm not sure what they're going to do there [16:45] it looks like the plan is to permit any registered developer to get a certificate without a fee, but I'm not privy to internal Mountain Lion ongoings [16:52] well currently you have to be a paid dev to get a cert [16:52] but that's probably because you have to be a paid dev to get Mountain Lion [16:57] hmm [16:57] I do have a redemption code for Mountain Lion's developer preview [16:57] weird [16:57] I do have an iOS certificate, but that's it [16:57] maybe it's any Apple dev program [17:21] no [17:21] it should only be for the Mac dev program, afaik [17:21] I dunno then :P [17:21] I haven't actually tried to redeem this code yet [17:21] but I did get one [17:21] redeem it :p [17:21] * yipdw shrugs [17:22] once you redeem it, it's yours [17:22] that would require me to register my ID on the App Store [17:22] and a license for Mountain Lion is yours too [17:22] once it hits RTM [17:22] you don't already have an ID registered on the app store? [17:22] I do have one, but it's not my developer ID [17:22] (this developer ID is for work stuff) [17:23] ahhhhh [17:23] we're in Apple's enterprise deployment thing [17:24] or so I'm told [17:24] I'm not actually sure yet, and honestly I don't really care so long as Xcode does not complain when I deploy code to iOS devices :P [17:25] whoa, kernel panics [19:23] http://www.reddit.com/r/compsci/comments/q4e57/help_save_the_worlds_first_webserver_we_need_to/ [19:27] "the WorldWideWeb application" [19:27] wow [19:28] it's weird to think it started there [19:31] actually, was there a separate Web server application? [19:31] or was the WorldWideWeb application both? [19:31] (I haven't actually looked at the code yet) [19:31] HI EVERYONE [19:31] Finished the slides for the fucking talk [19:31] All the photos are in. [19:31] Did I miss anything? [19:32] alard: Thanks, I see the wordclouds are working ine. [19:33] From the talk I'm giving [19:34] - Larry Wall's Virtues of Programmers: Laziness, Hubris and Impatience [19:34] nice [19:34] - Archive Team's Virtues of Activist Programmers: Paranoia, Rage, and Kleptomania [19:34] Activist ARCHIVISTS, I mean [19:35] impatience is still quite valid [19:35] Well, they're not individual sets [19:35] i's say hoarding over kleptomania [19:35] To be honest, all three of those apply to us [19:35] bikeshed should be blue too. [19:35] I'm sensitive to the word hoarding [19:36] WHAT THE FUCK IS BIKESHED [19:36] haha [19:36] SketchCow: really? [19:36] programmer term http://bikeshed.org/ [19:37] SketchCow: tl;dr â people focusing on stupid shit, like the color of the bikeshed, when there's a nuclear reactor nearby [19:37] somethings aren't worth arguing about - the colour of the bike shed being one, and it happens because everyone *can* argue about the colour [19:37] I have yet to figure out what shaving yaks means. [19:38] a pointless activity [19:38] it apparently it means both X and the complete opposite of X [19:38] I think to some extent it means busy work [19:39] tef: but it means both small important things and small unimportant things [19:39] that's why it doesn't make sense [19:39] programmers, eh ? [19:39] 1: "Any apparently useless activity which, by allowing you to overcome intermediate difficulties, allows you to solve a larger problem." [19:39] 2: "The actually useless activity you do that appears important when you are consciously or unconsciously procrastinating about a larger problem." [19:39] gargh [19:39] no kidding :) [19:39] I blame Seth Godin. [19:40] who can I blame for REST? [19:40] tef: it's Hypermedia API now [19:40] so I hear [19:40] i tend to agree, but i never actually cared [19:40] that's mike admunden's idea tho [19:40] oh? [19:41] w3.org/2011/10/integration-workshop/p/hypermedia-oriented-design.pdf [19:41] "the Rest of REST", nice [19:43] thing is I like it quite a lot [19:43] it makes my client code simple, and lets me be flexible on the server [19:43] I can throw in caching, load balancing, sharding without changing the client code to handle it [19:44] this makes me happy :3 [19:45] tef: https://github.com/kennethreitz/resources [19:45] the thing is [19:46] being restful doesn't mean PUT/POST/GET, it means using hypermedia [19:46] tef: (it's a WIP) [19:46] tef: yep, you can define any methods you want [19:46] tef: that's the point of this [19:46] kennethre: https://github.com/tef/hate-rpc/ [19:46] HTTP methods are just the most common denominator, so it's default [19:47] tef: very interesting [19:47] well, instead mapped GET to mean 'give me all the forms' and POST to mean 'call this methods' by default [19:47] the other thing is that resources are *created* upon each request, [19:47] and then disposed of, so the state *has* to be contained within the url [19:48] opposite approach [19:48] At the end of any work by Seth Godin, he wants to sell you something. [19:48] I like the people who, at the end of their work, makes me better [19:48] well, I don't care that I am *consuming* a restful service [19:48] OH OH OHJ [19:49] You all need to see this talk if you haven't. [19:49] SketchCow: it's true. I know most of his employees at Squidoo. It's a cult, I swear. [19:49] which talk ? [19:49] SketchCow: they all quote him, multiple times, every day. [19:50] http://vimeo.com/36579366 [19:50] Go watch that. FUCKING DROP EVERYTHING. Watch it [19:50] I rarely say that [19:50] kennethre: i'm really not seeing the hypermedia in your design somewhat - one of the key advantages of a resful style is that you can direct to resources on another server [19:50] +10, it's an incredible video [19:50] Unless it's my talk, then I tell you to watch my talk and also send me money [19:51] kennethre: We need to talk about a localized archive.org injection box for mobileme. [19:51] Today, not the best day [19:51] Makes me want to hate all of modern computing, or deeply look forward to the future [19:51] But next week, like Monday, I'm at the Internet Archive, and all I'm doing [19:51] SketchCow: ping me whenever you're free [19:51] Yeah [19:51] I should be around all day monday [19:52] Get a vm together for us, one that has a good pumpy bandwidth and is running something like ubuntu or some other apt-get crazy linux [19:52] kennethre: aside I do plan to let people hook get/post/etc to override behaviours, it should be possible to implement atom-pub on it [19:53] SketchCow: hmm, sounds expensive [19:53] SketchCow: kind of defeats the purpose of using heroku in the first place [19:53] unless i can find a provider that doesn't charge for bandwidth [19:53] i'll look into it [19:54] Really. [19:54] Well, you have all these things pumping into the batcave, what's the difference if the 'batcave" is one of your own machines? [19:54] I might misunderstand a basic thing [19:55] Hmmm, another possibility is alard and I modify your individual heroku instances so they each are doing a pump as a final act. [19:55] SketchCow: the final transfer would be expensive [19:55] I could make that happen. Would that work? [19:55] SketchCow: that would be far better, if it isn't difficult [19:55] yes absolutely [19:55] It isn't. [19:55] if you can script it out [19:55] Do you have an archive.org account yet? [19:55] i can make the deps happen [19:55] I think I do [19:55] If not, grab one. [19:55] yes 'kennethreitz' [19:56] Get yourself a key set: [19:56] http://www.archive.org/account/s3.php [19:57] Don't worry, you can keep recreating them after we're done [19:58] SketchCow: awesome, done [20:13] https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B5QeH7pQrcBWT3BNQkluOHdSeFNfQk5ZOGVvZl85Zw [20:13] There's the talk [20:13] ATEAM-JSCOTT-TALK-PDA-2012-SCREENER_2012-02-24.pdf [21:31] I must admit, I am curious about the speaking that goes with some of the slide [21:45] http://www-testflip.archive.org/details/test-LachlanCranswickAFK [21:45] damn undersco2 is a hottie [21:48] "As you can see, Archive Team is a sausage fest" [21:50] just had a re-captcha "bafh" [21:52] ha, my cosplay photo made it in [21:52] awesome [22:00] oh god yes, ancient techno mixes from when i got into the internet http://wayback.archive.org/web/*/http://betoni.aivo.com/* [22:01] SketchCow / kennethre: Need any help with the mobileme upload? [22:06] https://twitter.com/#!/search/%23PDA12 [22:09] http://instagr.am/p/HZ4h3zNvzq/ [22:10] what a shitty website, you cannot browse the guy' other pics? [22:10] or am i missing flash for that [22:14] alard: i need to script out pushing data directly to archive.org instead of batcave [22:17] man, jason is dropping great lines on and on, judging by twitter [22:32] kennethre: Ah, so that's probably more of a non-technical problem. [22:33] hopefully [22:35] Well, the s3 upload should be fairly easy to add, but I'm not sure how SketchCow wants to organize the files. Items with many small files may not be ideal. [22:38] a file per user would be ideal for me [22:39] there'd be 301k files though :) [22:43] I would like us to do the .tar.gz thing. [22:43] I realize that's something. [22:43] The thing is, you could do 20 10gb or so file, uploading each in a buffer as you go. [22:43] https://skydrive.live.com/?cid=91f7b6182940f986&Bsrc=TWITRAPXX&Bpub=SN.Notifications&id=91F7B6182940F986%21141&sff=1 [22:47] i need to get rid of my dada at least once every 24 hours [22:47] per instance [22:48] How much buffer space do you have? [22:49] time is the buffer, not disk [22:53] http://www.archive.org/details/archiveteam-2012-pda-widespread-recognition&reCache=1 [22:53] Give it a moment to make the mp3 or whatever [22:53] Wait, you already gave that talk? [22:53] I did an hour ago [22:53] Oh [22:53] I just put it up [22:53] Dude, I'm fast [22:54] http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CB8QtwIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dv3bfR3RKdO0&ei=YRVIT6ynFue0iQLEq73aDQ&usg=AFQjCNGcLbkzeQ9Od9bWGPutt2484SzL5w [22:54] Whoops [22:54] Will there be video too later on? [22:54] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3bfR3RKdO0 [22:54] Yes [22:55] Btw, if you are on fire today, wanna try to get urlte.am working again? [22:55] SketchCow: it seems to have gone well, looking at twitter [22:56] soultcer: On it [22:56] <3 [22:58] http://www.dot.fm/query_whois.cfm?domain=urlte&tld=am is the current set. [22:59] soultcer: check my links above [23:02] Set the A records to 199.48.254.80, that's the IP underscor gave you, right? [23:03] Or you can change the nameservers to ns{1-4}.kwdservices.com [23:04] It told me to do ns1.kwdhosted.com [23:04] Is that not right? [23:05] Yes, ns1.kwdhosted.com and ns2.kwdhosted.com seem to work too [23:06] Though underscor probably knows best what servers to use [23:07] So. dot.fm already had those in. [23:09] I just started it again. [23:09] Now we'll see what's not working. [23:09] I mean, the registrar definitely thinks it's the new thing. [23:12] Jason Scott, [23:12] Your ticket has been submitted to our FM Support department, one of the staff members will review it and reply accordingly. [23:13] So here's hoping, right? [23:20] SketchCow/kennethre: So what if we made a script that 1. downloads users until it has enough to fill 10GB; 2. creates a tar file; 3. uploads the tar file to the current item on archive.org. [23:20] Would that work? Possible problem: it may take a very long time before an instance collects 10GB. [23:21] alard: it may take a long time, it may not [23:22] alard: with 300 instances, i got 2TB in less than a day [23:22] i need to do the math [23:22] 10GB sounds like it will work though [23:22] the loss might be higher than usual though [23:23] but that should be fine as long as we do a prune early [23:23] of this is working well, we'll reach 0 users left in no time [23:36] I was more referring to the traffic messes and the like [23:40] It just needs to be sure it successfully uploaded. [23:40] SketchCow: Do you have an example curl command? [23:43] the mp3 of the talk needs the old school filmstrip frame advance tones :D [23:55] wow [23:55] musopen sound awesome [23:55] that recording/performance copyright on public domain works has annoyed me for quite some time