[00:16] hit my first real big mobileme user. 18GB so far kind of sucks waiting lol [00:16] cant imagine a 40GB one [00:31] 30 days straight, SketchCow? [00:31] Damn [00:31] chronomex: Finally finished that talk, it was fantastic [00:31] Of course, hearing alexis was great too [00:32] s/talk/panel/ [01:04] http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330704251425 [01:04] Just bought. Burp. [01:05] ahhh [01:05] why do i know all the software titels [01:05] http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-TV-Technician-Repair-Kit-RCA-Color-TV-Modules-Components-Manuals-/230757832662?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item35ba3d17d6 kinda cool. [01:08] wow that cd collection is an awesome haul [01:08] :D [01:08] GOLD Lucent Orinoco dont give this away for 14,99 :-O ?:D [01:11] 2001 #184 is kind of dirty tho [02:14] BANGARANG! I WISH TO RESCUE THE CITY OF FORTUNE. [02:14] join #fortuneshitty [02:15] Oladon: welcome :) [02:18] Oladon: the fortune city rescue is discussed in the channel #fortuneshitty [02:18] no2penci1: So I hear. [02:23] http://blog.wfmu.org/.a/6a00d83451c29169e2016763e3572b970b-pi [02:24] heh [02:27] don't know how many of you follow pinboard on twitter (you should!), but he posted a link to a new bookmark service which aims to solve the problem of the disappearing service: http://nilai.co/ [02:51] alard: Aside from the memac-tamer are there any other live stats for mobileme? [02:53] theres http://memac.heroku.com/ but i dont think it counts the people in tamer, but not really sure on that [02:57] If that's the case we're at about 64TB? [02:57] Wait I think that tracks the tamers too. [03:00] afaik it does track tamers [03:00] memac-tamer just makes sure things aren't uploading too fast and are using the right itm [03:00] yeah your right [03:00] item* [03:00] Okay, so 50 of >200TB or so. [03:01] By the end of June... [03:02] heh [03:02] yeah [03:02] I wonder if I can run one more. [03:17] hi [03:17] hi [03:20] Wyatt, why not? [03:21] jonas__: Why not what? [03:21] run more seesaw-s3 [03:22] jonas__: It's an issue of disk space and bandwidth. [03:24] 17 gave me 650gb bandwidth yesterday [04:30] wow at the sprint closing [04:49] What? [04:50] Picture Mail online storage is being discontinued 4/30/12. Itâs important you move the pictures and videos you want to keep to your PC or to your favorite photo or social networking site before 4/30/12. Visit sprint.com/picturemail for more information. [04:50] https://pictures.sprintpcs.com/retailers/PCSNEXTEL/ui-refresh/images/logo/newDecommissionNotice.jpg [04:51] was tweeted to @textfiles [04:51] Oh damn [05:15] Someone from Amazon.com wants to offer space to me, branded, to promote s3 [05:15] I said fine, how about MOBILEME [05:15] This could end in epic [05:15] oooh [05:16] Using Salesforce-paid-for Heroku machines to download mobileme from apple to store on amazon servers before transferring to archive.org [05:16] hahaha [05:16] Have to find a way to make google pay too [05:16] We can put adsense on it or something [05:16] hahahhaha [05:17] It's like a...reverse double reacharound. [05:17] It's beautiful. [05:36] crap. i wish i had brought up the full notice when i was upgrading the scanner drivers at work a week ago. [05:37] the driver package for the HP scanner popped up a message about HP closing down their own customer photo storage area [06:10] http://www.archive.org/details/zone-cds [06:19] god this mac user is taking forever. havent had one this big yet. 20G so far [06:23] SketchCow: Bwahaha, S3 storage for mobileme would be awesome! [06:23] Made my morning! [06:24] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:IBM_card_storage.NARA.jpg [06:24] that room holds ~4 gigabytes [06:24] pallets stacked 8 x 20 x 2, each pallet has 10 layers of 10 boxes, each box holds 2000 cards of 80 bytes each [06:25] I wonder how many of those are still strong enough to be read [06:25] all of them [06:25] paper is incredible [06:25] and punchcards are usually cardstock [06:31] man, I would hate to have to retrieve records from that... it doesn't even look like there is enough room to get anything like a forklift or the like in there to move pallets [06:32] it's probably a complete census; you wouldn't really go get a single box [06:32] and now you can snort that data up your nose [06:33] no, but you might need to get at all of the boxes on a pallet that is stacked on the bottom (or even the top), so you need a way to get it out of there to ship to the processing center that wanted it [06:38] Good find, chronomex [06:38] Wonder if I'll be on on the media next week [06:38] I wonder if limp-dick-slapping them will slant the story [06:45] So not in the mood to debate Mike Daisey with people on Facebook [07:10] fuckemall [07:10] ignore all mike daiseys [07:10] got better things to do than argue on the internet [07:13] sigh, why does this fail :( http://www.us.archive.org/log_show.php?task_id=98826597 [07:13] it swallows 20 GB of TIFFs but not 10?? [07:19] http://memegenerator.net/instance/16584225 [07:27] yes, please [09:26] Wyatt: :) [09:27] I've recruited some fellow ricers from #gentoo-chat on freenode. [09:28] :D [09:28] G isn't for gentoo btw.... its just some kind of thign that got stuck there one day ;D [09:29] is there a tracker which can show just my progress? [09:29] How much I've uploaded... [09:30] SmileyG: for which project? Mobile-me or FortuneCity? [09:30] As I'd like to see what I've done and watch the progress of my scripts.... [09:30] FortuneCity. [09:30] http://focity.heroku.com [09:30] Oh, that can show individuals, too? [09:30] if you append /stats.json you get everyone's stats (if you're not on the top 10) [09:30] yeah but that shows everyone. Wondered if theres ome way to filter it? [09:30] Aaah, neat [09:30] Ah ok thats what I wanted :) [09:31] You're on your own for parsing it though :) [09:31] * Wyatt|Wor learned something new. [09:31] Aww snap! [09:31] Â¬_Â¬ [09:31] "Smiley":2010526952 [09:31] that's in bytes [09:31] Thats number of bytes? right cool :) [09:31] that's a lot of punchcards [09:31] I'm so damned used to bytes from my work [09:32] damn precision [09:32] 1.9gb? [09:32] actually, it's often bits @ work [09:32] SmileyG: sounds about right [09:32] wow i'm quite good :D [09:32] Also, the "don't run more than 10" for fortune city.... why not? [09:33] you get blocked [09:33] for I in {1..9}; do screen -L -d -m -S fortunecity$I ./seesaw.sh Smiley; done <<< :D [09:33] tef_: ah Ok [09:33] SmileyG: Because you'll load their servers too much, making others get 404s [09:33] and then you have to run it somewhere else [09:33] and/or you get blocked [09:33] ersi: That json works for memac, too? [09:33] Wyatt|Wor: Yup! [09:33] Hawt. [09:33] what ersi said [09:34] Wyatt: get to the coding! [09:34] So.. if you run more instances, you aren't helping.. you're tipping the project :p [09:34] yeah [09:34] what if I have multiple IP's? [09:34] Yeah? [09:34] ... [09:34] That's fine. [09:34] like a /22 range [09:34] You'd still load them as much? [09:34] Oh. [09:34] Point is: they got shitty servers [09:34] XD No i'm not using the whole range. [09:35] If the servers aren't responding with content, we don't get any content [09:35] and 'regular users' can't get their content either [09:35] yeah I'm just wondering [09:35] so that would suck :) [09:35] maybe I should do mobileMe instead? [09:35] please do :) that's a huge beast [09:35] and that one you can go full throttle on ;) [09:35] tho I might need to limit it hahaha [09:36] naw, no need to limit the mobile me one [09:36] they got fat pipes, everything's hosted on a cdn [09:36] I mean for my sanity. [09:36] ah' [09:36] also work might look at me a bit funny too [09:37] Boss: "Why are you maxing out our 100 mbit line?" Me: "Errr, backups?" Boss:"Jolly good!" [09:38] If he doesn't ask what backups, it isn't lying, right? [09:39] Right! [09:43] put it in a crontab, & you don't have to explain yourself for anything [09:43] "I wasn't even in the office today" [09:44] ...not bad, not bat. [11:11] hmmm [11:11] well that was totally epic Â¬_Â¬ [11:13] anyone give me an estimate on how much b/w the mobile me site will let me consume? [11:19] SmileyG: lots [11:19] hmmm the wget doesn't seem to be pounding my system too hard. :s [11:22] - Running wget --mirror (at least 999 files)... [11:22] I see it doing this, and around 150KiB down [11:27] there we go [11:27] 3 mobile me clients, and 9 fortuneCity from work ;D [11:35] 610 KiB... urgh what is this weird merasure Â¬_Â¬ [11:37] kibibytes [11:37] kilobytes is more customary, but it's abiguous [11:38] lots of times it means a power of two, but then you buy a hard drive and it suddenly is a power of 10 instead [11:38] so the SI people came up with a new set of prefixes that can always mean a power of two [11:42] lol [11:42] * SmileyG head explode [11:43] I think I'll have to stop this tonight [11:44] else while I'm at home it might go bonkers [11:53] hmm [11:53] it shouldn't actually run amok [11:54] in fact your downloaders will probably eventually all stop on their own [11:57] Hmm, this isn't kosher...I think my VPS got axed by one of the daytime admins. :/ [12:09] o_O [12:09] db48x: well.... the b/w I'm on _should_ be limited to 30/30 either way [12:09] but...... it wouldn't supprise me if that limit doesn't work [13:21] oh dear, 48 x seesaw-s3 => Mem 22862/24156 Swp 3905/3905MB [13:23] o_O [13:24] jonas__: memac or focity? [13:25] the first [13:25] awesome [13:26] how much bandwidth are you sucking out? :D [13:26] 180mbit -.- [13:26] guess i got to do something before the mem is reached [13:29] good usage of swap there :P [13:35] @SmileyG i have 5 of the mobileme going atm since around last night on a gigabit box and have done about 280GB [13:35] both ways [13:36] youll max out your 100Mbit likely once it rsyncs back to archiveteam [13:37] so whose highscore :P [13:41] doh guessing jonas by the 48x s3 ahah [13:41] they are gone [13:42] :( [13:42] o :( what happened? [13:43] S[h]O[r]T: yeah that the situation I don't want to reach [13:45] if i limit it to about 10Mbit then I'm good to go [13:45] except I need to know what that equates to when your trying to set it as the option for rsync [13:45] 10000 ? [13:46] one wget process was useing 20gb of ram [13:47] ^^ [13:47] :O [13:47] lol...thats wrong [13:47] --bwlimit=KBPS limit I/O bandwidth; KBytes per second [13:48] hmmm [13:48] yes [13:48] * SmileyG can't figure numbers out today [13:48] my brain is fired [13:48] so more like 1000 [13:48] 10000 then... [13:48] oh [13:48] XD [13:48] google says 1280 kilobytes is 10 megabits :) [13:48] Cool :) - waiting for these 3 to finish :) [13:49] megabits or megabyres argh\w[feova [13:49] I'll limit each one to 300 ;D [13:49] wget can be such a bitch [13:49] 10megabits is like 1.7MB/s (megabytes) [13:50] * SmileyG ponders if his work connection is 100Mbit, or 100MB [13:50] XD [13:50] probably 100Mbit @ 10MB/s :p [13:50] Max Speed: 8388607.0 Bytes/s [13:51] so yeah 100Mbit [13:51] thats a little less than 8 MB/s [13:51] * ragechin nods to the collective. [13:52] ok ty :) [13:52] wish it passed --progress to wget :D [13:53] orwhatever the flag is [13:56] --progress:bar iirc [14:31] does seesaw discard the data after uploading it? [14:38] yes [14:47] alard, it doesn't look like there is any way to gracefully stop seesaw-s3-repeat.sh? [15:24] :/ [15:24] * SmileyG ponders what that one does? [17:52] Holy crap, Amazon might just do this. [17:52] If this works, oh man [17:52] what what? [17:54] S3 storage? :D [17:54] ArchiveTeam-S3 storage! [17:54] Yes indeed. [17:54] donation? [17:54] Rape buckets! [17:56] Yes [17:56] The idea is they get to talk about helping us, we get to store them [17:56] This would solve a fuckton of problems. [17:56] wow. [17:57] They're going to regret this [17:57] haha [17:57] S3 filled in two days by rogue internet archivists [17:57] nice [17:57] Sex, Scandals and Sketchkow [17:57] very nice [17:57] well well well (insert well-pic there) - it certainly gets my motivation to download stuff faster - up :D [17:58] the new S3 [17:58] I warned them, 250tb or so [17:58] mobilme? [17:58] +e [17:58] You needed motivation to download stuff faster? [17:58] How about imminent shutdown? [17:58] it would make sense for some of the crawls if amazon had them as public sets [17:59] Nothing gets me a "Go-faster-boner" such as more disk [18:00] wow, that's something I hadn't expected to hear today. [18:00] the boner thing or the s3 thing [18:01] The boner thing, I'm sure [18:01] You never expect a boner [18:01] If you've done it right [18:01] I mean, THEY never expect the boner [18:01] hahhaha [18:01] .... [18:01] The element..... of surprise [18:01] kinda slow but it's still a surprise [18:01] The boner? [18:02] the boner is not slow [18:02] plus amazon gets to do a million dollar tax writeoff for 20k of infrastructure [18:02] archiveteam isn't a non-profit so I am not sure they can write it off as a donation [18:03] No, but archive.org could be the official entity getting it [18:03] ohhh [18:03] I.e. archive.org is letting archiveteam use the amazon-donated space [18:03] that makes a lot more sense [18:11] It'll be a nice win. [18:11] Meanwhile I'm writing scripts to drain all the mobileme out of Batcave and Fortress [18:12] haha holy shit [18:12] * yipdw just saw the S3 news [18:12] I hope that goes through [18:13] would be sweet. [18:13] now we can just PUT shit directly there [18:13] s/now we/we could/ [18:14] I assume that even if this goes through, it doesn't change replication strategies [18:19] No [18:20] It just gives a different location for the buffer [18:20] Instead of fos, it's amazon [18:25] ok [18:26] this actually gives us space to start doing things like continuously archiving sites [18:26] naet [18:26] neat, too [18:34] i wish redump would get some fundraising going to make http://redump.org/guide/cddumping/ a one click process [18:40] yipdw: I'm sure we'll be able to stuff that hole full with MobileMe for now [18:52] Schbirid: is there any raw data dumper for Mac? [18:53] for audio we have XLD, which is awesome [18:54] no idea [18:54] but the damn audiotracks are the problem [18:54] why is that? :/ [18:54] i have one stack now of "2 clicks in isobuster = done" discs and one stack of "bleh, cant be arsed to do all that EAC stuff" discs which have audiotracks [18:54] because of tagging and all? [18:55] no, just the ripping [18:55] see http://redump.org/guide/cddumping/ [18:56] hmm [18:56] what's the reason for the combined offset stuff? [18:56] no idea =( [18:57] different topic: can i dump apple 2 5inch floppies (or what format they are) in a drive of that size in a x86 computer? [18:58] not directly [18:58] they're GCR / variable speed [18:58] you'll need some sort of adapter, or a real Apple II [18:59] ok [18:59] then i will go through the apple 2 (or rather that cheap knockoff we have, heh) [18:59] what kind of data is on these disks? [19:00] both programs, games and personal data (text, programs, games, etc) [19:00] [3:02:14 PM] Jason Scott: The best things in life are in your trunk with conflicting reports as to its whereabouts. [19:03] hahaha [19:06] I stole something today [19:06] There was a public installation with strobe lamps in regular E27 mounts [19:06] SmileyG it does the same as seasaw except it only ULs once its downloaded 10G of data and it ULs directly to archive.org [19:06] So I took a couple of those [19:07] Replaced a lamp at my mom's place [19:07] ??? [19:07] Profit [19:11] nitro2k01: don't steal. if you do, at least don't make us witnesses to your crimes. [19:13] /me suddenly wonders if he can convince someone to take a photo of the light [19:13] and then use the photo in a dark room to light it up. [19:19] mobileme seems to take so long to mirror [19:31] Should we add more Fortunecity's? I think we do. [19:32] SketchCow: That's chugging along pretty well in my opinion.. MobileMe could use some more speed though [19:33] I'm a wimpy non-believer, and I think we're pretty much slaughtering FoCity's (shitty) servers [19:34] BANGARANG! I WISH TO RESCUE THE CITY OF FORTUNE! [19:35] \o/ [19:35] Hie the to #fortuneshitty and follow the instructions in the wiki link [19:37] so easy [19:37] I have about a terrabyte free on the box i'm using [19:37] It barely uses disk space. [19:37] It pulls stuff down, then dumps up to a central location. [19:37] oh okay [19:38] then I'll run in on this other box too [19:38] If you got lots of disk, feel free to help out #memac as well :-) That one takes a lot of space [19:38] (you can do both!) [19:39] hey jason :) [19:40] so were do we get the scripts? [19:40] I hear no shout [19:40] BANGARANG! I WISH TO RESCUE THE CITY OF FORTUNE! [19:40] Hie thee to #fortuneshitty and follow the instructions in the wiki link [19:40] What's with all the bangarangs? [19:41] hah [19:41] soultcer: it's a part of the war-call of saving FoCity.. [19:41] oh [19:42] http://www.quartertothree.com/fp/2012/03/19/boom-blox-bash-party-diagnosed-with-terminal-electronic-artsism [19:42] soultcer: http://twitter.com/#!/textfiles/status/181825977066856448 [19:51] do you need cpu, disk or network? (or all of the above?) [19:52] every time I see bangarang, the first thing I think of is that Skrillex EP [19:53] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65PiKsNhCsc I think this. [19:53] codebear: ip addresses :) [19:53] codebear: Yes, yes and yes! [19:53] ah [19:54] well I do happen to have a couple of servers that could be spared [19:54] Epic loop at 1:02 [19:54] codebear: Consider slamming apple hard, we got #memac (MobileMe) project going as well [19:55] but if you have some disk, or a lot of bandwidth, there's memac [19:55] I have 900gig of space and a bandwidth quota I rarely touch [19:56] :D [19:56] let me get done with this meeting and i'll pop back in [19:57] codebear: awesome! [19:57] is this some scripts I run or do you need a shell account? [19:57] there's scripts ready [19:58] Instructions on http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=MobileMe :9 [19:58] clone the github project, ./dld-client - then you got yerself 1 X downloader running [19:58] ok, let me chew on that while I meets with the team [19:59] sure thing, we'll be here (and in #memac as well) :) [20:00] fortunecity has banned archiveteam.org as a referrer [20:00] haha [20:00] lawl, them arses [20:02] Though I think that might just be part of their hotlinking protection. [20:04] it's just a link to their main page. [20:08] dereferer.org.... interesting [20:09] dnova: I don't think they have [20:10] I was able to click on the fortunecity link from the AT wiki [20:10] unless NoScript is doing some referer mangling [20:10] someone modified it to pipe through dereferer.org [20:10] oh [20:10] prior to that, you'd get this: http://www.fortunecity.com/referercheck/denial.jpg [20:11] wait, it's piping through there? [20:11] I don't see how [20:11] the link is now http://www.dereferer.org/?http%3A%2F%2Ffortunecity.com [20:12] not here [20:12] ctrl+f5 [20:12] still the same [20:12] WELP. don't know how to explain that :) [20:13] Firefox recorded this [20:13] https://gist.github.com/d2c373a6a4c1ec253744 [20:13] and if I nc that to www.fortunecity.com:80 it works fine [20:13] er [20:13] minus http:// obviously [20:14]