#archiveteam 2012-03-22,Thu

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00:00 πŸ”— chronomex wooooo
00:00 πŸ”— chronomex I've finally arrived in life!
00:04 πŸ”— BlueMax chronomex: no, no you haven't
00:14 πŸ”— nitro2k01 Someone accidentally the sarcasm
00:14 πŸ”— nitro2k01 But who?
00:22 πŸ”— SketchCow Oh god second season of sherlock so good, worth going to copyright jail
00:22 πŸ”— SketchCow HANDCUFF MEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
00:23 πŸ”— db48x`` :)
00:23 πŸ”— nitro2k01 ONE MILLION DOLLARS!
00:23 πŸ”— nitro2k01 WITHOUT PREJUDICE!
00:23 πŸ”— SketchCow No jail can hold me
00:24 πŸ”— SketchCow Not when the dream of archive team burns in my eyes
00:24 πŸ”— SketchCow By the way, without a doubt, this new machine would definitely rape the dog
00:24 πŸ”— SketchCow I went for the name ASSPOUNDR9K
00:25 πŸ”— SketchCow I can run 4 HD streams in the editor at once.
00:25 πŸ”— nitro2k01 Should've named it K9ASSPOUNDR9K
00:25 πŸ”— SketchCow Running at full 1080p
00:25 πŸ”— nitro2k01 For ultimate dog rape
00:25 πŸ”— SketchCow That's it's superhero name
00:25 πŸ”— SketchCow By night it dons a collar and becomes K9ASSPOUNDR9K
00:25 πŸ”— SketchCow Soon I'll find it logged into Xbox Live and used that gamertag.
00:26 πŸ”— nitro2k01 Kill Skynet before it kills you
00:28 πŸ”— SketchCow http://www.archive.org/details/ddp-24_fortran_ii
00:28 πŸ”— SketchCow Yes, yes.
00:42 πŸ”— Coderjoe wow...
00:42 πŸ”— Coderjoe has it really been almost a year already?
00:48 πŸ”— SketchCow Since what
00:49 πŸ”— Coderjoe since yipdw's post about helping archive google video sucked me in here
00:50 πŸ”— SketchCow Oooh, since you joined the island of lost boys
00:50 πŸ”— SketchCow BANGARANG
00:52 πŸ”— Coderjoe bangarang
00:54 πŸ”— SketchCow Hooray, the FTP site went offline
00:55 πŸ”— dashcloud so has anyone tried the bangarang media player (a KDE multimedia program) ?
00:55 πŸ”— SketchCow Not here
01:51 πŸ”— codebear hmm, wget-warc just puked a mean looking error on my terminal
01:51 πŸ”— codebear do I do something with it or just rerun seesaw?
01:52 πŸ”— DFJustin depends on the error but probably rerun if it was doing ok up til then
01:52 πŸ”— codebear i'll stuff it in a corner just in case and rerun
01:53 πŸ”— codebear oh - silly me - drive is full
02:06 πŸ”— Coderjoe full drives suck
02:07 πŸ”— chronomex the steady state of disks is full
02:17 πŸ”— ragechin does the tracker round robin the items so it's evenly distributed?
02:17 πŸ”— ragechin I've been getting "no itemname..." for awhile. hoping im not banned again
02:21 πŸ”— S[h]O[r]T its been limited
02:22 πŸ”— S[h]O[r]T to like 80 usernames / something
02:22 πŸ”— S[h]O[r]T for everyone that way we dont DOS them
02:24 πŸ”— NovaKing yep
02:24 πŸ”— NovaKing and we are at the stage
02:25 πŸ”— NovaKing where members have infi looping
02:25 πŸ”— NovaKing Downloading com/business/bankbroadway <-- this one has been running nearly 24 hours now, LOL
02:26 πŸ”— NovaKing https://ezcrypt.it/aP4n#lWcYHgWYJW46YiMySpkL3ZP7
02:26 πŸ”— NovaKing this crap
02:26 πŸ”— NovaKing :(
02:32 πŸ”— dashcloud I like focus follows mouse, and in my day job, I use Windows, so I wanted to try to get it there, and it's rather easy actually- change a registry key or use TweakUI
05:45 πŸ”— SketchCow OK, guys.
05:47 πŸ”— SketchCow So, who wants to reverse engineer the Kryoflux?
05:48 πŸ”— db48x`` the hardware or the software?
05:51 πŸ”— SketchCow All.
05:51 πŸ”— db48x`` heh
05:51 πŸ”— SketchCow Here's the deal.
05:52 πŸ”— SketchCow That whole well is poisoned, as a number of people in this channel have worked to make clear to me.
05:52 πŸ”— SketchCow they are correct.
05:56 πŸ”— NovaKing what are you wanting done? I can make a shoot out to people i know that love doing that kind of shit
06:01 πŸ”— SketchCow I think it's time to write software that deals with the Kryoflux as a piece of equipment and generates something raw from it.
06:01 πŸ”— SketchCow But the problem is deeper than that.
06:01 πŸ”— SketchCow I'm just thinking out loud, is all.
06:03 πŸ”— SketchCow You know how you get into some situations where you go 'this can only end with arguments and screaming'?
06:03 πŸ”— SketchCow This is one of those.
06:03 πŸ”— SketchCow So there's basically three types of disks one would read. Well, 3 types of media, but let's go with disks for the moment.
06:03 πŸ”— SketchCow 1. Commercial, Protected Software
06:03 πŸ”— SketchCow 2. Unprotected private individual disks
06:04 πŸ”— SketchCow 3. Commercial/Canonical, Unprotected Software
06:04 πŸ”— SketchCow Now, to me, 2 is the most important.
06:04 πŸ”— SketchCow You read one of those, you'll likely read the only copy that exists.
06:05 πŸ”— SketchCow After than, comes 3, which can be read like anything else, and will have many analogues out there.
06:05 πŸ”— SketchCow Then 1.
06:06 πŸ”— SketchCow 1. is very important, but it's ground I don't care about as much because so many copies exist.
06:07 πŸ”— SketchCow But one of the thematic issues they have is "we did all this work for preservation and we will not let you take our lephrechaun gold of this unique software and just uise it willy nilly and ruin our good name.
06:07 πŸ”— SketchCow And that is reflected in that utterly henious license condition that was mentioned to me.
06:08 πŸ”— SketchCow And yes, the more I read it, the more I realize I can never really use IPF
06:08 πŸ”— SketchCow So that was a little journey.
06:08 πŸ”— SketchCow the journey is done.
06:09 πŸ”— SketchCow I'll bring my report to Brewster and keep going here.
06:09 πŸ”— SketchCow This is part of why I like doing things with the CD-ROMs.
06:09 πŸ”— SketchCow CD-ROMs, there are arguments about ISO vs. BIN/CUE
06:09 πŸ”— SketchCow But that's it.
06:09 πŸ”— chronomex yeah.
06:11 πŸ”— underscor Coderjoe: Congrats on your anniversary!
06:11 πŸ”— underscor Mine was in February, Yahoo Video
06:11 πŸ”— underscor :)
06:13 πŸ”— underscor SketchCow: If I end up getting one, I'll work on it, but it'd be more of a "learn to reverse" project for me
06:14 πŸ”— SketchCow YOU have enough on your plate.
06:14 πŸ”— BlueMax lol
06:14 πŸ”— underscor :D
06:14 πŸ”— underscor true
06:14 πŸ”— underscor but there's always a little room
06:14 πŸ”— BlueMax Getting a little pudgy aren't you underscor
06:14 πŸ”— underscor just pile it on top of the peas and potatoes
06:15 πŸ”— underscor nothing like a good mashed up schlop
06:15 πŸ”— underscor I need to convince brewster to let me back out there again this summer \o/
06:15 πŸ”— DFJustin cd-roms are actually gonna get more complicated soon since people are working on real raw reading
06:16 πŸ”— SketchCow Yes, I can't wait
06:16 πŸ”— SketchCow And by I can't wait I mean I don't overly care.
06:16 πŸ”— SketchCow I do a good enough job, then catalog, then store.
06:16 πŸ”— SketchCow So if it turns out more love is needed, great.
06:16 πŸ”— DFJustin yep that's a good philosophy
06:17 πŸ”— underscor SketchCow needs more love
06:17 πŸ”— SketchCow The problem, as you are hopefully seeing where I'm going, is this whole paralysis and insult until perfection thing.
06:17 πŸ”— SketchCow It's cancer.
06:17 πŸ”— underscor Yeah :(
06:17 πŸ”— SketchCow It's entirely cancer.
06:17 πŸ”— underscor I mean, you kinda talked about that in your PDA talk
06:17 πŸ”— underscor "Well, is this the BEST way to do it? Oh, well, it's dead now"
06:18 πŸ”— DFJustin also as far as I know there is no way for anyone but sps to create ipfs, even disregarding the license
06:18 πŸ”— underscor The quickest way to settle a housing dispute is to burn the house down.
06:18 πŸ”— underscor That is my favorite Jason Scott quote
06:18 πŸ”— underscor ever
06:18 πŸ”— DFJustin I dunno there are a lot to choose from
06:18 πŸ”— underscor That is the best one
06:19 πŸ”— underscor I mean
06:19 πŸ”— underscor they're all the best
06:19 πŸ”— underscor but that's the bestest
06:19 πŸ”— underscor :>
06:19 πŸ”— BlueMax What was that IRC website where there were a few dozen of his quotes
06:19 πŸ”— SketchCow For an experiment, I'm digitizing a bunch of material right now.
06:19 πŸ”— SketchCow I mean CD-ROMs.
06:19 πŸ”— SketchCow But they're GDC CD Roms.
06:19 πŸ”— underscor BlueMax: You mean you didn't bookmark it? :o
06:19 πŸ”— underscor what an undedicated fan
06:20 πŸ”— DFJustin for disk categories 2 and 3 there are fortunately good alternative solutions out there like zoomfloppy for cbm and retrofloppy cables for apple
06:20 πŸ”— underscor I'm revoking your membership
06:20 πŸ”— underscor fuck I'm tired
06:20 πŸ”— underscor sleeptime!
06:20 πŸ”— BlueMax But
06:20 πŸ”— BlueMax I wanna be a fangirl :(
06:20 πŸ”— underscor lol
06:22 πŸ”— BlueMax Christ
06:22 πŸ”— BlueMax I need to remember where it is
06:25 πŸ”— BlueMax http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Jason_Scott_at_Internet_Archive.jpg/450px-Jason_Scott_at_Internet_Archive.jpg < this is my data. There are many like it but this data is mine
06:26 πŸ”— BlueMax But damnit SketchCow, I remember whois-ing you and finding the channel and a link to the page
06:26 πŸ”— BlueMax You said it was somewhere you...damnit, remember...you didn't take part in for a while?
06:26 πŸ”— BlueMax Wait, why am I appealing to you
06:31 πŸ”— BlueMax I tried. :|
06:35 πŸ”— BlueMax I'm not a fangirl ;_;
06:45 πŸ”— db48x`` SketchCow: it's just the sort of thing that ought to be an open hardware type project
06:45 πŸ”— db48x`` plug your floppy drive into your arduino, plug the arduino into your computer, upload this software
06:45 πŸ”— db48x`` or whatever it is you want to put there in the middle
06:49 πŸ”— highscore hi
06:53 πŸ”— db48x`` hello
07:01 πŸ”— Deewiant i
07:24 πŸ”— db48x`` cool
07:24 πŸ”— db48x`` archive.org has an opds server now
07:25 πŸ”— Coderjoe db48x``: i think the kryoflux started out that way, but discovered that the timer resolution and ram space on the AVR in the arduino wasn't enough
07:25 πŸ”— db48x`` or catalog, I should say
07:25 πŸ”— db48x`` Coderjoe: probably
07:25 πŸ”— Coderjoe so they moved to a custom board with a bigger atmel chip
07:25 πŸ”— db48x`` yea
07:26 πŸ”— db48x`` lol, the braille playboy is the fifth most downloaded book in the catalog
07:27 πŸ”— Coderjoe atmel at91sam7s256 to be precise
07:28 πŸ”— Coderjoe and the only thing actually in the hardware is a bootloader
07:28 πŸ”— Coderjoe the PC software loads the actual firmware up on first use after powerup
07:29 πŸ”— Coderjoe i kinda wish it were configurable enough to allow me to use this 2xSDS duplicator drive. spins at 600RPM and can read or write both sides at once
07:30 πŸ”— Coderjoe but, looking at the schematic, the pins used to read the other side are wired up as output pins on the KF board
07:31 πŸ”— Coderjoe (yes, I am tainted, as far as a cleanroom RE effort goes. not completely poisoned, though, as I haven't looked at any source code)
14:15 πŸ”— SketchCow Making space on FOS.
14:18 πŸ”— SketchCow This is a real problem.
14:18 πŸ”— SketchCow I really think we need to think out the FOS thing.
14:18 πŸ”— SketchCow Or the mobileme thing.
14:18 πŸ”— SketchCow At full bore, I can't shove stuff into archive.org as fast as it's coming in
14:18 πŸ”— balrog_ph Ugh...
14:27 πŸ”— SmileyG your downloading it faster than you can upload it?
14:29 πŸ”— ersi Hell yeah
14:30 πŸ”— ersi Most people use seesaw also.. which means it'll go directly to that machine
14:30 πŸ”— ersi I fill my disks up with dld-client which doesn't upload, when it's done I manually start a upload process
14:33 πŸ”— SketchCow I've cleared up 3tb.
14:35 πŸ”— ersi Neato
14:51 πŸ”— alard Perhaps we should move more people to the seesaw-s3 version that uploads mobileme directly to archive.org.
14:52 πŸ”— primus102 oh ... i didn't know s3 version existed ... how can i switch to it?
14:55 πŸ”— * SmileyG head explode
14:56 πŸ”— primus102 :D
14:56 πŸ”— ersi You don't, unless you're given seesaw-s3 :)
14:56 πŸ”— primus102 ok, thanks :-)
14:57 πŸ”— alard primus102: The point with the s3 version is that you need to be able to upload 5GB in one go, in a reasonable amount of time.
14:57 πŸ”— primus102 i know it's probably silly question, but why doesn't upload script upload directly to archive.org?
14:58 πŸ”— primus102 I see. thanks alard
14:58 πŸ”— alard primus102: So if your connection is fast and stable enough, the direct upload would be an option. If not, rsync is easier.
14:59 πŸ”— primus102 I'll stick to rsync for the start ;-)
15:00 πŸ”— primus102 I think i upload at less than 1MB/s atm, so i guess it'd rule me out anyway
15:02 πŸ”— SmileyG i could but it'd get raised eyebrows ¬_¬
15:04 πŸ”— primus102 hehe, i wonder what my isp will say, archive team stuff + some other stuff amounted to 50GB download in less than a day :D
15:46 πŸ”— Schbirid "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; archive.org_bot +http://www.archive.org/details/archive.org_bot)" <- hello you wonderful cute little love robot!
15:47 πŸ”— nitro2k01 Someone should make a user agent that says "Mozilla/5.0 (incompatible; ..." just because
15:52 πŸ”— ersi primus102: your ISP shouldn't say shit, you're paying for pipes
15:52 πŸ”— ersi only asshole ISPs do trafic limits and shaping
15:57 πŸ”— Schbirid awesome, so archive.org downloads zip files too
16:15 πŸ”— SketchCow https://twitter.com/#!/textfiles/status/182863367076188162
16:15 πŸ”— SketchCow MAKING FRIENDS
16:16 πŸ”— Schbirid ribbons!
16:16 πŸ”— SketchCow 4k is the new 64k
16:16 πŸ”— Schbirid particles are the new ribbons
16:24 πŸ”— SmileyG demoscene?
16:25 πŸ”— DFJustin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demoscene
16:25 πŸ”— Schbirid http://www.pouet.net/topic.php?which=4439&com=25&which=4439&com=25&page=1&x=22&y=17
16:26 πŸ”— * SmileyG clearly thinks modern computing enviroments do osmething different
16:44 πŸ”— ersi This reminds me of COMPUTER BEACH PARTY so freckin' much: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qEfO5iNicI (Title: "Sand Sharks Trailer")
16:45 πŸ”— ersi SmileyG: Do what different? Incoherent line :)
17:13 πŸ”— SketchCow INBOX 9
18:14 πŸ”— chronomex INBOX ... uh, INBOX 481.
18:16 πŸ”— Nemo_bis uh?
18:16 πŸ”— Nemo_bis <RobH> nah, cuz sometimes we need sas
18:16 πŸ”— Nemo_bis <cmjohnson1> ok
18:16 πŸ”— Nemo_bis <cmjohnson1> trying to stay ahead...also while you were out ...had to replace a hdd on brewster it was the only 1tb drive in the DC...not sure if you want to order a spare
18:16 πŸ”— Nemo_bis <RobH> brewster was misc so thats sata
18:17 πŸ”— Nemo_bis hm, maybe I shouldn't copy to a logged channel
18:17 πŸ”— Nemo_bis oh, old http://wikitech.wikimedia.org/view/Brewster
20:12 πŸ”— chronomex http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2012/03/isp-storing-25-petabytes-of-megaupload-data-costs-us-9000-a-day.ars
20:14 πŸ”— nitro2k01 IT'S OVER NINE THOOOOUSAND!
20:14 πŸ”— chronomex heh
20:17 πŸ”— SketchCow I just realized this monster machine here could render all the footage for the GET LAMP raw interviews RATHER QUICKLY I MIGHT SAY
20:45 πŸ”— SketchCow https://twitter.com/#!/textfiles/status/182930627799162881
20:48 πŸ”— aggro "...if that data needs to be preserved, someone elseҀ”the government, Megaupload, or an interested party such as the MPAA or EFFҀ”should bear the costs of preserving the data."
20:48 πŸ”— aggro "someone else"
20:52 πŸ”— DFJustin hmm if they're considering putting it up temporarily it would be good to compile a most-wanted list of stuff to grab
20:53 πŸ”— aggro I'd imagine there's tons of duplicate material in those 25 petabytes.
20:53 πŸ”— soultcer Didn't they use deduplication?
20:53 πŸ”— DFJustin they apparently had deduping for at least hash-identical stuff
20:54 πŸ”— DFJustin although I'm sure there are lots of repacks/reencodes
20:54 πŸ”— aggro ^
20:59 πŸ”— yipdw I don't get it
20:59 πŸ”— yipdw are those MU servers at Carpathia actually being accessed?
20:59 πŸ”— Coderjoe plus, that's not necessarily 25 petabytes of USED space
20:59 πŸ”— yipdw if not, and if the data they want is on the disks
20:59 πŸ”— yipdw why not just turn the damn things off and put them in a closet
20:59 πŸ”— DFJustin could include RAID or whatnot too
21:00 πŸ”— yipdw are they afraid that the power switch will trigger an ultramagnet that will wipe the disks
21:00 πŸ”— yipdw or are they interested in RAM contents too
21:00 πŸ”— Coderjoe they're still powered up and they're still paying equinix for the space
21:00 πŸ”— Coderjoe plus, part of that $9k/day is opportunity cost
21:01 πŸ”— aggro Huh. I got the impression equinix was stuck with the bill.
21:01 πŸ”— yipdw sure, and if you throw them all into some place out of the way then that opportunity cost is lowered
21:01 πŸ”— yipdw since you now have available rack space, etc.
21:01 πŸ”— Coderjoe the government and mpaa are no longer interested. as far as they are concerned, carpathia can wipe the drives. the EFF got an injunction preventing carpathia from doing so, on behalf of innocent users
21:02 πŸ”— Coderjoe yipdw: but they can't re-use the servers
21:02 πŸ”— yipdw hm
21:02 πŸ”— Coderjoe and there is the possibility that the servers might not come back up properly
21:02 πŸ”— Coderjoe (worn out hardware that can't handle powering back up, for example)
21:03 πŸ”— yipdw obvious solution #1: open up MegaUpload and let "someone else" back it up
21:03 πŸ”— Coderjoe they apparently have 1.25M in server hardware that they would like to re-use
21:03 πŸ”— yipdw I mean, the whole situation seems a little absurd
21:04 πŸ”— yipdw but I guess absurdity and legal code go hand in hand
21:04 πŸ”— Coderjoe megaupload is willing to take custody, but the government and MPAA don't want them to have it.
21:04 πŸ”— Coderjoe though I don't know what MU can do without assets
21:05 πŸ”— yipdw yeah, that's what I mean by absurd
21:05 πŸ”— yipdw it's a big triangle of "nuh-uh"
21:05 πŸ”— yipdw well
21:05 πŸ”— yipdw quadrilateral if you couny Carpathia
21:06 πŸ”— aggro I'm not a lawyer, but I'd figure you couldn't seize assets until a verdict was reached. How can you mount a case without assets?
21:06 πŸ”— chronomex you can hold them as evidence without a verdict
21:07 πŸ”— Coderjoe well, the lawyer has an added incentive to win the case :P
21:10 πŸ”— Schbirid i like flagging "promoted posts" at twitter as spam
21:10 πŸ”— Schbirid just hope they do not automatically filter that out
21:10 πŸ”— chronomex me too
21:10 πŸ”— chronomex I think it's funny that they have the option
21:11 πŸ”— yipdw can that be done via an API?
21:11 πŸ”— chronomex I think so
21:11 πŸ”— yipdw :D
21:12 πŸ”— chronomex tweetdeck has a "is spam" button, at least
21:13 πŸ”— chronomex http://www.quora.com/How-much-is-a-Promoted-Tweet
21:15 πŸ”— yipdw that is the most expensive sequence of <= 140 characters I have ever seen
21:16 πŸ”— yipdw obviously this means that you better use the higher Unicode codepoints to minimize your $/byte
21:25 πŸ”— SketchCow http://www.archive.org/card-catalog.php?identifier=goodytwoshoes00newyiala
21:45 πŸ”— SketchCow DFJustin: I've forwarded the ISOVIEW discussion to the developers
21:55 πŸ”— DFJustin thanks
21:56 πŸ”— DFJustin unrelatedly, http://www.archive.org/details/archiveteam-friendster-fan-profiles is in the wrong collection (should be archive-team-friendster)
22:22 πŸ”— SketchCow Fixed
22:32 πŸ”— SketchCow Hey, it turns out a crackhead died of crack
22:32 πŸ”— balrog_ btw, if any of you noticed I'm balrog_ that's because some squatter / political troll appears to be using balrog as a sockpuppet account
22:40 πŸ”— SketchCow http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=5H3XGfGKJas#t=89s
23:15 πŸ”— kennethre SketchCow: wow, you tweeted about that hml5 incident a lot
23:22 πŸ”— nitro2k01 What HTML5 incident?
23:22 πŸ”— kennethre this asshole wanted to remove the profanity from my diveintohtml5 repo
23:23 πŸ”— kennethre someone w/ collab access decided it was a good idea
23:24 πŸ”— tef_ well
23:24 πŸ”— tef_ it's more making changes when there is an obvious conflict
23:25 πŸ”— tef_ is terribly passive aggressive way of dealing with the situation
23:25 πŸ”— kennethre removing him from the repo seemed to work pretty well
23:25 πŸ”— tef_ he can go fork
23:26 πŸ”— tef_ aka 'write a distributed map reduce query'
23:26 πŸ”— kennethre exactly
23:26 πŸ”— nitro2k01 You don't like my shit? Go fork my ass!
23:34 πŸ”— SketchCow I didn't tweet a lot.
23:34 πŸ”— SketchCow I wrote a paragraph
23:34 πŸ”— SketchCow Don't let twitter's shortness fuck your brain
23:35 πŸ”— SketchCow Newsflash: eSATA is MUCH faster than USB
23:36 πŸ”— SketchCow I'm watching it slam through a 1tb drive
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