[02:04] Anyway... [03:00] SketchCow: ping? I found some volunteers for BitSavers; should I forward them to you? [03:56] bitsavers? in what way does it need volunteers? [03:56] mirror on archive.org? [03:58] LordNlptp: Metadata for it [03:58] bitsavers is quite metadata-poor [03:59] ah [03:59] I've been slacking terribly, but found two people interseted in working on it [04:26] shaqfu: Yes please [04:26] We need to coordinate, though [04:26] Your action have been awesome [04:26] I have all the stuff in [04:29] SketchCow: Awesome, thanks [04:30] Do you have the RSS feed for new items? [04:30] Nope [04:30] http://archive.org/services/collection-rss.php?collection=bitsavers [04:31] SketchCow: While I have your attention, what's up with those Apple .ima files? [04:31] Ignore them [04:31] k [04:31] Just keep going [04:31] Wasn't sure if you wanted them mounted/read or w/e [04:31] My stuff tracks, I can go later and go "so, what did we skip" [04:32] Gotcha [04:34] I'll tell them to contact you, then [05:14] afaik .ima files are dc42 images, are they not? [05:15] disk copy 4.2 [05:16] Dunno; I'd have to grab them and run them through file [05:16] Worst case, there's always Basilisk [05:18] I'm fine with you just moving through things as you go. [05:19] I know; just answering LordNlptp's question [06:18] SketchCow: re: MESS in a browser — glorious [06:44] it crashes ff11 for me [06:44] known issue with firefox, chrome works [08:01] ...wait...waitwaitwait. MESS...the emulator MESS? [08:04] BlueMax: yes! [08:05] ...in a BROWSER? [08:05] ARE. YOU. ALL. INSANE?! [08:05] BlueMax: you'd be crazy *not* to do it [08:05] BlueMax: yes! [08:06] How the hell does that...WHAT [08:06] BlueMax: Brute force and lubricant. [08:07] javascript is turing complete, when properly lubricated any program will run on any other computer. [08:07] You would NEED lubricant and brute force to get MESS of all things working in a browser. [08:07] It just...boggles my mind! [08:07] Welcome to 2012. :) [08:08] ...end of the world. I knew it. [08:08] This project will destroy the world. [08:10] ...how is it coming along? [08:11] nah it won't destroy the world yet, mess can run inside of mess though so that probably would [08:13] use wget to download wget, break the internet [08:13] build gcc [08:13] the demo was made by hand-hacking the javascript produced by emscripten, I'm working on making it actually compile into a working form [08:14] How many of MESSes several hundred testicles will it support? [08:16] the javascript file is 16MB just with colecovision, we can probably bring that down through various methods but I think it's gonna have to be one version per system for the time being [08:17] but if it works for one it should work for any, although speed isn't gonna be fun for some things [08:19] I can imagine [08:19] Anyway, don't create any black holes on us [11:47] DFJustin: what are chances of having it split up, so different common bits are in different js files, and which ones get pulled in is dependent on options (such as different processor modules, input, output, etc)? [14:08] are there more collections like http://archive.org/details/prelingerhomemovies ? [14:08] I just wrote to an Italian archive collecting such home movies on the whole country [14:14] Almost 9000 theatre books in PDF: http://www.mediabrera.it/cataloghi/catalogo_rd.php (click "cerca") [14:15] http://www.mediabrera.it/risorse/dire.php 300 books [15:30] Hi. [15:30] Coderjoe: That's one of the plans. [15:55] http://jsmess.textfiles.com/ also provides mess.js as a .gz, so it's only 2.3mb [15:57] Something's wrong with archive.org's uploader. [15:57] I lost some stuff due to it breaking in a new awesome way. [15:58] Always good to find those breakages, always bad to lose datas [16:00] Well, the mobileme site is still up. [16:00] So that's good. [16:00] Yupp yupp [16:28] The download rate is quite low now compared to some previous peaks. [16:33] Yay, I'm over 2TB~ [18:16] LordNlptp: not sure [18:16] shaqfu: send me one [18:16] and I don't think file can identify dc42 [18:21] dc42 doesn't have a magic number in header [18:22] but it does have one at a weird offset [18:40] balrog_: http://www.textfiles.com/bitsavers/pdf/apple/lisa/toolkit_3.0/ima/ [18:41] shaqfu: those better be dc42 or they're useless [18:41] can you read a header in hex? [18:41] if you can, look at this http://68kmla.org/wiki/DiskCopy_4.2_format_specification [18:41] mainly look for the name, the checksums, and the 01 00 [18:41] also lisa images must have tag data [18:42] scroll to the end of the file and see if there's a characteristic pattern [18:57] balrog_: What's the command for that? xxd? [19:00] And yeah, it has the magic number [19:03] The archive.org problem's been fixed. [19:04] Mmmh, my link crawler is progressing slowly ^_^ [19:18] ersi: hmmmmmm ? [19:33] hehe, knew you'd be interested [19:33] http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/audio.wnyc.org/otm/otm032312f.mp3 [19:34] Archiveteam in the news [19:34] tef_: just learning the ropes on crawling a little - I started reading through your github/tef/crawler, but decided on starting on my own at first [19:34] shaqfu: yes, xxd is un-hexdump [19:34] For a direct link to underscor's material without the redirect: http://audio.wnyc.org/otm/otm032312f.mp3 [19:35] ersi: thanks [19:35] Sorry, hehe [19:36] no problem :) [19:36] ersi: excellent - my code is terrible :D [19:36] tef_: if we compare code, mine's a lot more aweful [19:36] pfft [19:36] I should know better :v [19:36] but I'm working on getting better [19:37] oh yeah, I should fork and push my changes of your crawler to github :p [19:42] :D [19:45] What's code that's not in any function called? Just 'global' like the scope? [19:45] wondering if it has a name at all [19:47] top level ? [19:47] tbh it usually means that you're writing a script, not a module [19:47] so you just reffer to the code as a whole, differently [19:48] yeah, hm. alright [20:06] * Aranje listens to archiveteam in the news [20:11] oh wow I didn't realize the js would gzip that well [20:11] in that case we could make it downright svelte with emscripten's lzma support [20:12] the browser still has to load and parse all that stuff though so it will still need to be kept down, for example even with just coleco chrome dies on it unless you closure-optimize it because it hits their 32,767-variable limit [20:15] Mmmh, what are you hackin' on? [20:15] http://jsmess.textfiles.com/ [20:15] ah [20:16] nice, that hangs Firefox for me [20:16] yep https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=735974 [20:17] sweet, it unhang