#archiveteam 2012-04-02,Mon

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00:00 πŸ”— SketchCow I'd also like to see more essays for "regular" people.
00:00 πŸ”— SketchCow We can touch them up and make how-tos later
00:01 πŸ”— SketchCow Like it or not, we are now hit with general "how to save the world" interest now
00:01 πŸ”— chronomex help to save
00:02 πŸ”— SketchCow I love this http://archive.org/details/software-double-r-pack collection
00:03 πŸ”— zgrant balrog_: Sorry, Didn't see your question. I don't know all the input commands, but 'p' pauses.
00:03 πŸ”— Ymgve I'm slowly dumping the c64 disks and tapes I got here, so that's something
00:03 πŸ”— balrog_ ah, ok
00:11 πŸ”— shaqfu 20:00 <@SketchCow> I'd also like to see more essays for "regular" people.
00:11 πŸ”— shaqfu Whatcha got in mind?
00:11 πŸ”— SketchCow Do the metadata!
00:11 πŸ”— * SketchCow whipcrack
00:11 πŸ”— shaqfu Doing it tonight! Backlogged on job apps
00:11 πŸ”— shaqfu (You should get 2 emails from newbies soon)
00:11 πŸ”— SketchCow Excellent
00:16 πŸ”— shaqfu I've spent the past month explaining to old ladies why manuscripts online is a Very Good Thing; I can probably take a crack at "here's what we do" pieces
00:16 πŸ”— SketchCow Go for it, then
00:16 πŸ”— SketchCow Facebook hired the google wave guy
00:16 πŸ”— SketchCow In about 5 years, someone is going to make google wave and we're all going to flip out
00:17 πŸ”— Ymgve he's a mole
00:17 πŸ”— SketchCow and use it
00:17 πŸ”— SketchCow And "WHY DIDN'T WE THINK OF THIS BEFORE"
00:17 πŸ”— SketchCow See also: Every fucking Zynga game ever
00:17 πŸ”— Ymgve google sent him in as an undercover agent
00:18 πŸ”— SketchCow OK, driving northward
00:18 πŸ”— SketchCow THIS ISN'T OVER
00:18 πŸ”— SketchCow I've pumped so much goddamned data into archive.org this week.
00:18 πŸ”— SketchCow Terabytes.
00:18 πŸ”— Ymgve so when will we get the complete archive.org torrent? :P
00:19 πŸ”— SketchCow Shhh, you're still on notice
00:20 πŸ”— SketchCow also: We have git annex
00:20 πŸ”— SketchCow That thing is going to be the gamechanger.
00:20 πŸ”— SketchCow If you turn git-annex into a FILESYSTEM
00:20 πŸ”— SketchCow Why don't you get cracking on that
00:20 πŸ”— SketchCow That... ooohhhh lordy
00:20 πŸ”— SketchCow cat *.zip
00:21 πŸ”— SvenG "someone said 'cat'?"
00:21 πŸ”— SvenG lol!
00:21 πŸ”— SvenG dont quote me
00:22 πŸ”— SketchCow Don't tase me
00:22 πŸ”— devesine_ SketchCow: https://github.com/chmduquesne/sharebox is a FUSE filesystem built on git-annex
00:33 πŸ”— zgrant OK, I tried to create an account at AT and I'm receiving an error.
00:33 πŸ”— zgrant Here it is:
00:34 πŸ”— zgrant Fatal error: Call to a member function userCannot() on a non-object in /home/archivet/public_html/extensions/TitleBlacklist/TitleBlacklist.hooks.php on line 86
00:34 πŸ”— zgrant And yes, I'm one of those "general" folks SketchCow mentioned earlier, so I'm sure the problem lies between my keyboard and my chair.
00:35 πŸ”— zgrant Sorry, I guess that was, "regular" people. :)
00:37 πŸ”— DFJustin heh 400mb of amiga demoscene, how cute, have 9000mb of atari st :) http://archive.org/search.php?query=no%20fragments%20AND%20mediatype%3Asoftware
00:38 πŸ”— balrog_ zgrant: I don't think that's normalҀ¦
00:38 πŸ”— zgrant I will admit I was a bit surprised when I saw that.
00:43 πŸ”— zgrant OK, I just tired again in Chrome and I received the same error message. I always knew I wasn't normal, but now I just feel like I'm becoming a bother.
00:48 πŸ”— Wyatt|Wor That looks like a bug of some sort; more than likely not your fault at all.
00:49 πŸ”— zgrant OK, that's good to know. Should I just wait a few days and try again?
01:29 πŸ”— SvenG http://www.stephenfry.com/2011/07/28/4e3150894c7c9/
01:38 πŸ”— Coderjoe just finished buffy season 7? now you need to check out buffy seasons 8 and 9 (comics that continue after the tv show)
01:51 πŸ”— Wyatt|Wor Coderjoe: Oh god, I thought you were joking, until I googled it.
01:54 πŸ”— Ymgve btw, did I link this earlier? http://www.yle.fi/tekstitv/html/P525_01.html
02:41 πŸ”— SketchCow Back
02:42 πŸ”— SketchCow The fiancee' has all the comics.
02:42 πŸ”— SketchCow So no worries, that'll happen.
02:43 πŸ”— SketchCow Archiveteam mascot
02:44 πŸ”— SketchCow http://i.imgur.com/hnZBS.jpg
02:45 πŸ”— SketchCow Archiveteam: No idea what you're into, saving it anyway
02:45 πŸ”— Ymgve his cutie mark must be a ball gag
02:45 πŸ”— dnova ahaha
03:36 πŸ”— lemonkey SketchCow: latest episode of BBC's Bang Goes the Theory has a segment on archiving your data and retrieving it far into the future..
03:37 πŸ”— dnova maybe we can get some ideas from it
03:37 πŸ”— SvenG send it onto a space ship on a fling around the solar system?
03:38 πŸ”— SvenG eventually plummets back on earth to populate the deserted earth with DNA..
03:39 πŸ”— Wyatt|Wor SvenG: Space radiation makes things difficult.
03:39 πŸ”— bsmith093 stupid iplayer region restrictions.. just cause im in NY, im not good enough for ya ?!?!? fine then off to demonoid
03:39 πŸ”— bsmith093 that, right there, is why people pirate things
03:40 πŸ”— bsmith093 and yes space rad, is a real concern, and infortunately lead is heavy
03:40 πŸ”— SvenG ha! radiation! hearsay!
03:40 πŸ”— SvenG lead... pff
03:40 πŸ”— SvenG use GOLD
03:41 πŸ”— SvenG according to the bank there's millions of tons still
03:42 πŸ”— SvenG no price too high, eh?!
03:43 πŸ”— SvenG actually, i'm hoping for more storage in less space. right here. every grain of sand becomes storage for a few gigabytes. and ten we'll go to the beaches.. and make lots of copies...
03:43 πŸ”— SvenG everyone then takes a bucket of sand home... and looks for the grain that has your favourite collection of rock music. or watever.
03:44 πŸ”— dnova WHAT ABOUT LICENSING
03:44 πŸ”— SvenG and when the police comes to check through your data then you point to the sandbox in the backyard and say: help yourself! :)
03:44 πŸ”— SvenG dnova: aw... come oooooooooooooooooooooooooooon
03:44 πŸ”— bsmith093 what?? sand??? did i miss something?
03:45 πŸ”— SvenG dnova: stop bursting my bubbles with this licensing stuff!
03:46 πŸ”— dnova sorry :(
03:46 πŸ”— bsmith093 so about the sand thing.... huh?
03:47 πŸ”— bsmith093 yipdw: hows the progress on the ffnet tracker updates
03:59 πŸ”— SvenG bsmith093: think "nano" and "storage". stuff the data onto the orbits
04:09 πŸ”— bsmith093 neat idea
04:17 πŸ”— SvenG here's me, hoping that every pupil will be able to store all the wisdom and knowledge we could assemble in a few hundred grams, to be easily worn and carried around in a lifetime
04:18 πŸ”— SvenG couldnt this be possible?
04:18 πŸ”— SvenG i hope so..
04:18 πŸ”— bsmith093 damn skippy, "here kid, have everything ever recorded, ever."
04:19 πŸ”— bsmith093 aw man i got a rock... full of knowledge
04:19 πŸ”— bsmith093 RIP charles Schultz
04:28 πŸ”— SvenG charles m. schultz.. peanuts.. i remember when he said he cannot go on.. just two months before he died. sad!
04:28 πŸ”— SketchCow win 32
04:30 πŸ”— SvenG "win 32"?
04:31 πŸ”— nitro2k01 "/win 32"
04:31 πŸ”— nitro2k01 But without the /
04:38 πŸ”— SvenG ah ;)
04:39 πŸ”— nitro2k01 Aka alt+A for the non-lazy
04:56 πŸ”— yipdw bsmith093: keep asking and I'll write a bot that notice-spams you with the tracker log output
04:56 πŸ”— yipdw when it's done, I'll tell you
04:58 πŸ”— chronomex NOT GOOD ENOUGH
04:58 πŸ”— yipdw you're right; the bot should send two copies of each message
04:59 πŸ”— SketchCow The bot should send 400 messages
05:06 πŸ”— yipdw in fact
05:06 πŸ”— yipdw here's some infio
05:06 πŸ”— yipdw I, [2012-04-02T05:06:41.727000 #29328] INFO -- : backlog: 977958 | processed: 5632
05:07 πŸ”— yipdw I had to restart it, not sure why
05:07 πŸ”— yipdw but yeah
05:07 πŸ”— yipdw 977,958 category pages left to examine
05:07 πŸ”— SketchCow 6,000 messages
05:07 πŸ”— yipdw this is what happens when you archive a site with 4,000 pages of fucking Pokemon
05:07 πŸ”— yipdw literally
05:07 πŸ”— chronomex fucking pokemans
05:07 πŸ”— chronomex ?
05:07 πŸ”— yipdw SQUIRTLE SQUIRTLE SQUIRTLE SQUIRTLE SQUIRTLE SQUIRTLE
05:09 πŸ”— chronomex ew
05:11 πŸ”— yipdw chronomex: could be worse
05:12 πŸ”— chronomex ok
05:20 πŸ”— Wyatt|Wor Yeah, not nearly as many pages as Harry Potter and Naruto.
05:21 πŸ”— yipdw anyway, the crawler is getting through the backlog at about 200 items/sec
05:21 πŸ”— yipdw so
05:21 πŸ”— yipdw calculate that out for completion time
05:24 πŸ”— yipdw oh, huh
05:24 πŸ”— yipdw on an <aside> I just noticed that HTML5 (and maybe earlier revisions) had a <var> element
05:25 πŸ”— yipdw I've been looking for something like that; I often have a need for that when writing issues in our issue tracker at work
05:25 πŸ”— yipdw where <var>n</var> denotes n as a variable
05:49 πŸ”— chronomex is for maths, yes?
06:15 πŸ”— SketchCow Data is flying through fortress of solitude for MobleMe
06:21 πŸ”— Wyatt|Wor Delicious.
06:25 πŸ”— SketchCow Also, I now have all the data from IUMA and MP3.com
06:26 πŸ”— Wyatt|Wor Wow, mp3.com. I found some good musicians there back in...what, 2002-3 or so?
06:29 πŸ”— dnova sounds about right.
06:31 πŸ”— Wyatt|Wor Wow, I've been listening to Joe Stump for ten years?
06:34 πŸ”— DopefishJ fuck yeah there's a song I wanted from mp3.com but could never find again
06:35 πŸ”— SvenG one should always keep the md5sums of files...
06:39 πŸ”— chronomex I pinned down someone who did IT at mp3.com the other day
06:39 πŸ”— chronomex he said he wasn't allowed to say even what happened to the physical disks...
06:39 πŸ”— dnova_ wasn't there a legal battle?
06:39 πŸ”— chronomex yeah
06:39 πŸ”— DFJustin I'm sure SketchCow can be very...persuasive
06:40 πŸ”— dnova_ they're under a big cement slab in the desert next to the ET cartridges
06:40 πŸ”— zgrant I was just thinking the very same thing about SketchCow being persuasive.
06:53 πŸ”— yipdw chronomex: yeah, it's for math
07:49 πŸ”— SketchCow I have the mails
07:49 πŸ”— SketchCow It was Vivendi.
07:50 πŸ”— SketchCow Like, they're the ones who made this happen.
07:50 πŸ”— SketchCow Terrible, really.
08:00 πŸ”— kennethre headaches suck
08:01 πŸ”— kennethre SketchCow: ALL data from mp3.com? how big is that?
08:02 πŸ”— SketchCow A lot
08:02 πŸ”— SketchCow Well, a terabyte or two
08:02 πŸ”— dnova lol
08:18 πŸ”— underscor Wheeeeee
08:18 πŸ”— underscor Outer banks!
08:18 πŸ”— underscor <3
08:18 πŸ”— underscor I'm like 30 feet from the ocean, it's fantastic
08:18 πŸ”— chronomex which ocean?
08:18 πŸ”— underscor atlantic
08:18 πŸ”— underscor barrier islands off of NC coast
08:18 πŸ”— chronomex ah
08:22 πŸ”— RedType I'm like 30 feet from the bathtub, it's fantastic
08:22 πŸ”— RedType :(
08:23 πŸ”— kennethre I'm like 30 feet from my pillow
08:23 πŸ”— chronomex I'm like 2 feet from my monitor
08:24 πŸ”— dnova I'm surrounded by hard drives
08:24 πŸ”— dnova ocean schmocean
08:27 πŸ”— underscor I'm surrounded by hard drives in the ocean
08:27 πŸ”— underscor oh wait
08:27 πŸ”— underscor RedType: :D
08:28 πŸ”— underscor Fuck it's late :(
08:28 πŸ”— underscor but I'm past the point where I can fall asleep
08:28 πŸ”— dnova it's early
08:28 πŸ”— underscor ;)
08:28 πŸ”— dnova partytime
08:28 πŸ”— underscor lol
08:30 πŸ”— underscor alard: are we done with focity?
08:31 πŸ”— alard We're nearly done. The list is down to 23 unreturned items, which all have a problem. I'm downloading those now.
08:32 πŸ”— alard SketchCow: Could you, at some point, make a list of the focity warc.gz files that have been uploaded to fos?
08:34 πŸ”— alard And, also, memac should go faster. :) Only three months left...
08:35 πŸ”— underscor I'll throw some resources at it shortly
08:35 πŸ”— SmileyG Is mobileme dead?
08:35 πŸ”— underscor how are we doing eta wise?
08:35 πŸ”— SmileyG Ah its going now ¬_¬
08:36 πŸ”— alard underscor: No idea, we've done about one third of the current list. But there are more, so we won't make it anyway.
08:37 πŸ”— underscor oh :(
08:37 πŸ”— underscor are you going to add in the additional ones?
08:37 πŸ”— alard I don't have them yet.
08:37 πŸ”— dnova Are there any projects actively going that are missing from the "Currently Active Projects" section on the front page of the wiki?
08:38 πŸ”— alard underscor: (Have to google first. But I can google faster than we can download.)
08:39 πŸ”— alard Not that I know of.
08:39 πŸ”— alard No big projects, anyway.
08:39 πŸ”— underscor alard: oh I see
08:40 πŸ”— alard I could start up the crawlers again, if you think that helps.
08:40 πŸ”— Nemo_bis very good news: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/xmldatadumps-l/2012-April/000448.html
08:41 πŸ”— underscor not really, we still have plenty more to go :)
08:44 πŸ”— Nemo_bis Can't kennethre restart download to see how fast the total download can go? :)
08:44 πŸ”— kennethre for how long? :P
08:44 πŸ”— underscor lol
08:44 πŸ”— ersi Poor poor Heroku
08:44 πŸ”— underscor until heroku calls him up
08:44 πŸ”— kennethre i'm trying to be a good employee
08:45 πŸ”— underscor "uh, dude"
08:45 πŸ”— underscor :D
08:45 πŸ”— underscor Nemo_bis: Is there a plan already to get a copy of that to IA?
08:45 πŸ”— Nemo_bis underscor, not yet
08:45 πŸ”— SketchCow I'm sad we lost the optimum date for kennethre helping with his megamachines
08:46 πŸ”— SketchCow I've been led to believe archive.org doesn't have as much of a disk space issue at the moment, by the way
08:46 πŸ”— SketchCow maybe
08:46 πŸ”— underscor I mean, it's already available there, but IA always likes having a backup of everything
08:46 πŸ”— underscor I think we should just buy a botnet for a few days
08:46 πŸ”— kennethre oh i can still help
08:46 πŸ”— kennethre 200 instances is a bit much though
08:46 πŸ”— kennethre turns out it was one of the biggest apps running on the platform
08:46 πŸ”— Nemo_bis I guess emijrp will set up some list of files to be tar'ed up and uploaded to IA. underscor, you could do the rsync + tar part. He'll contact you soon I suppose. :-p
08:46 πŸ”— Nemo_bis kennethre, ah, they found out? :D
08:47 πŸ”— kennethre Nemo_bis: nah
08:47 πŸ”— Nemo_bis eheh
08:47 πŸ”— kennethre just observations
08:47 πŸ”— kennethre i wouldn't be doing it if i didn't think they'd be okay with it :)
08:47 πŸ”— kennethre looking back that was probably a bit excessive though
08:47 πŸ”— kennethre i'm fine with running ~50
08:47 πŸ”— kennethre which is still a few MB/s
08:48 πŸ”— SketchCow http://www.archive.org/details/software now has a proper collection list.
08:48 πŸ”— underscor Nemo_bis: yep, I'm here whenever he gets around to it
08:48 πŸ”— underscor will talk with alexis about where/what/if they want to do with it
08:48 πŸ”— underscor SketchCow: neato!
08:49 πŸ”— underscor kennethre: 200 dynos is one of the biggest apps?
08:49 πŸ”— underscor :P
08:49 πŸ”— Nemo_bis underscor, I guess the IA wouldn't set up an rsync mirror though?
08:50 πŸ”— Nemo_bis Because the first thing to do is probably to have one or two mirrors at least, where people could then download (not a single bottleneck).
08:50 πŸ”— kennethre underscor: that's so huge
08:50 πŸ”— Nemo_bis go for 50! :D
08:51 πŸ”— kennethre i was at 300 actually
08:51 πŸ”— Nemo_bis 36,828 software items :O
08:51 πŸ”— kennethre which is 1.5TB of ram
08:51 πŸ”— kennethre which isn't cheap in amazonland :)
08:51 πŸ”— underscor ouch
08:51 πŸ”— underscor true
08:51 πŸ”— underscor Nemo_bis: They might, iunno
08:51 πŸ”— underscor How big is it?
08:52 πŸ”— underscor (if you know)
08:52 πŸ”— Nemo_bis JADMaker downloded more than Harry potter, good
08:52 πŸ”— kennethre lets see here, i'll start some up again
08:52 πŸ”— Nemo_bis underscor, about 18 TB
08:52 πŸ”— * underscor waits for heroku to start smouldering again
08:52 πŸ”— SmileyG hmmmm
08:52 πŸ”— underscor Nemo_bis: Hm, pretty big. I don't know if they'd want to do that.
08:52 πŸ”— SmileyG wget --mirror...
08:52 πŸ”— underscor I'll ask, of course
08:52 πŸ”— SketchCow underscor has great ideas for other peoples' hardware
08:52 πŸ”— SketchCow big ideas
08:52 πŸ”— underscor :D
08:52 πŸ”— SmileyG can i change seesaw to add in --progress easily?
08:53 πŸ”— SmileyG does wget even have a progress flag? :D
08:53 πŸ”— underscor SketchCow: Don't I?
08:53 πŸ”— underscor ;)
08:53 πŸ”— underscor SmileyG: Nope. you can do some fuckery with tee to see the log file as it's recorded
08:53 πŸ”— ersi SmileyG: How could it? It wouldn't know how many links there are at a site in before hand
08:53 πŸ”— underscor or get rid of q and see it download
08:53 πŸ”— SmileyG "estimate" ;D
08:54 πŸ”— SmileyG ok then
08:54 πŸ”— SmileyG --vebose!
08:54 πŸ”— alard underscor/SmileyG: I think all of the wget output goes to a log file.
08:54 πŸ”— SmileyG so I can at least see it grabbing files
08:54 πŸ”— underscor oh okay
08:54 πŸ”— alard --verbose will just increase the size of the log file.
08:54 πŸ”— underscor I thought it was using the --logfile thing
08:54 πŸ”— SmileyG yeah it does...
08:54 πŸ”— * SmileyG wants to disable --logfile then ;D
08:54 πŸ”— underscor Or does --logfile redirect all output?
08:54 πŸ”— Nemo_bis underscor, http://wikitech.wikimedia.org/view/Backup_status_chart#Images_and_media
08:54 πŸ”— alard Does wget have a --logfile?
08:55 πŸ”— underscor -o, --output-file=FILE log messages to FILE.
08:55 πŸ”— underscor closeish
08:55 πŸ”— underscor lol
08:55 πŸ”— alard That's what seesaw is using.
08:55 πŸ”— SmileyG hehe
08:55 πŸ”— SmileyG can I remove that easily?
08:55 πŸ”— kennethre \o/
08:55 πŸ”— * kennethre back in action
08:55 πŸ”— alard Why don't you just run tail data/**.log ?
08:55 πŸ”— underscor ^
08:56 πŸ”— underscor or multitail
08:56 πŸ”— underscor Although I don't think that automatically refreshes
08:56 πŸ”— underscor (when new files are created)
08:56 πŸ”— underscor kennethre: yay
08:56 πŸ”— SmileyG I figured out a way to tail this before... hmmm
08:56 πŸ”— kennethre running 50
08:56 πŸ”— Nemo_bis hehe, now people will have to run if they want to keep the top positions in the memach chart
08:57 πŸ”— underscor lol
08:57 πŸ”— kennethre gamification ftw
08:57 πŸ”— underscor ^
08:57 πŸ”— underscor now if only it was like a horse race or something
08:57 πŸ”— SmileyG tail -f ./data/*/*/*/*/*/wget.log
08:57 πŸ”— SmileyG :D
08:58 πŸ”— kennethre just in time to stsay at the top :)
08:58 πŸ”— underscor SmileyG: Or use ** to match all of those
08:58 πŸ”— underscor :P
08:58 πŸ”— SmileyG didn't work for me :S
08:58 πŸ”— underscor kennethre: pfft, we know you're gonna win
08:58 πŸ”— Nemo_bis he cheats!
08:58 πŸ”— * underscor points to hundreds of ec2 instances
08:58 πŸ”— kennethre ddmorton's going really fast
08:58 πŸ”— kennethre *dcmorton
08:59 πŸ”— kennethre so is short
08:59 πŸ”— Nemo_bis where are the ED guys? they told they were so interested
08:59 πŸ”— Nemo_bis lol, kennethre already has half of http://memac-tamer.heroku.com/
08:59 πŸ”— kennethre hehe
08:59 πŸ”— kennethre Nemo_bis i know!
09:00 πŸ”— kennethre Nemo_bis: that guy had some serious boxes too
09:00 πŸ”— underscor ED?
09:01 πŸ”— kennethre encyclopedia dramatica
09:01 πŸ”— kennethre he was running scrapers on the frontend servers
09:01 πŸ”— kennethre that have like 8 Gb internet connections and 24 GB of ram
09:05 πŸ”— underscor :o
09:05 πŸ”— SketchCow Hurrah, e-mail inbox down to 6
09:06 πŸ”— dnova let's see if we can't get that number back up for you
09:07 πŸ”— SketchCow You know what?
09:07 πŸ”— SketchCow Geeks. They make the same jokes.
09:07 πŸ”— SketchCow The same jokes I've heard for, oh, 20 years.
09:07 πŸ”— SketchCow One of them? Someone is doing good, something good happens.
09:07 πŸ”— SketchCow And someone goes "ha ha, let's fuck you up"
09:07 πŸ”— SketchCow Old.
09:07 πŸ”— dnova still funny
09:08 πŸ”— SketchCow In a 'I snort a lot and haven't seen an unbought vagina' sort of way
09:08 πŸ”— dnova pfff
09:09 πŸ”— kennethre i'll never understand how SketchCow comes up with this stuff so quickly
09:09 πŸ”— SketchCow Not much different than anyone with that skill.
09:09 πŸ”— kennethre anyone for that matter
09:09 πŸ”— SketchCow Good improv people, they're great to wach
09:10 πŸ”— SketchCow But it's a specific skill
09:10 πŸ”— underscor SketchCow should do comedy on the side
09:10 πŸ”— SketchCow I was in comedy troupes for enough years.
09:10 πŸ”— SketchCow Not interested in that life.
09:10 πŸ”— underscor Aw :(
09:10 πŸ”— kennethre oh really?
09:10 πŸ”— kennethre that explains it
09:10 πŸ”— SketchCow http://archive.org/details/archiveteam-sharkbait-panic
09:11 πŸ”— ersi lol'd @ unbought vagina
09:12 πŸ”— SketchCow http://archive.org/details/super-soft-magazine
09:12 πŸ”— SketchCow Sweet stuff, japanese video game magazines
09:19 πŸ”— godane i just noticed anyhub
09:20 πŸ”— SketchCow and therein lies the problem
09:20 πŸ”— godane looks like tars 1 thur 4 are very big
09:20 πŸ”— godane 4 is 306.8gb big
09:20 πŸ”— godane everything else is like in single mb
09:23 πŸ”— underscor Wow
09:24 πŸ”— underscor amazon has a TON of openings in my area
09:24 πŸ”— underscor I should apply, that'd be a neat job
09:24 πŸ”— SmileyG in a warehouse?
09:25 πŸ”— godane http://archive.org/details/2012-02-08-tpb-torrents
09:25 πŸ”— Nemo_bis As soon as they discover that you'd set up a VM and eat all their resources to download memac they'll discard your application.
09:25 πŸ”— godane archive of the piratebay
09:25 πŸ”— godane YES
09:26 πŸ”— Nemo_bis btw I'm constantly updating http://www.archive.org/details/publicbt.com
09:26 πŸ”— underscor Nemo_bis: shhhhhhh
09:26 πŸ”— underscor 8)
09:26 πŸ”— Nemo_bis less digestable but somehow useful
09:26 πŸ”— Nemo_bis :p
09:26 πŸ”— underscor I wonder if you do get free ec2 resources
09:26 πŸ”— underscor https://us-amazon.icims.com/jobs/166358/job
09:26 πŸ”— Nemo_bis underscor, I suggest not to ask this at the interview for the job
09:26 πŸ”— underscor This sounds so perfect
09:26 πŸ”— dnova make that your first question in the interview
09:26 πŸ”— underscor dnova: hahahaha
09:27 πŸ”— underscor "How much bandwidth can I use without getting fired?"
09:27 πŸ”— Nemo_bis Job ID: 166358 O_o
09:27 πŸ”— godane i downloaded 2 years worth of cpu magazine
09:27 πŸ”— godane 2010 and 2011
09:28 πŸ”— Nemo_bis underscor, "You act as an escalation point for junior technicians." <-- seriously? :-p
09:28 πŸ”— underscor Nemo_bis: hahaha
09:28 πŸ”— underscor That job is already pretty "junior"
09:28 πŸ”— Nemo_bis unless you have a team of kindergarten technicians
09:28 πŸ”— underscor if you look at the requirements
09:28 πŸ”— underscor https://us-amazon.icims.com/jobs/165246/job Oho!
09:29 πŸ”— underscor Even better!
09:29 πŸ”— SketchCow http://archive.org/details/archiveteam-twitter-json-2011
09:29 πŸ”— underscor Night shift means they don't notice me using 140Gbps of bandwidth
09:29 πŸ”— godane some thing for archiving: http://www.mediamegamall.com/smartblu-bluray-disc-100gb-bdxl-bluray-case-sbr6b100gb-p-40078.html?gclid=CMrk9I3tla8CFUGo4AodOwy8yw
09:29 πŸ”— godane 100gb bluray
09:29 πŸ”— underscor SketchCow: still deriving or buping?
09:29 πŸ”— underscor No sizes on the details page
09:29 πŸ”— godane its stupid that it doesn't work with current bluray drives
09:30 πŸ”— SketchCow Oh, you mean, a plastic disc where a laser burns an image of a groove onto light-sensitive material through the plastic?
09:30 πŸ”— SketchCow No, underscor
09:30 πŸ”— underscor hm
09:30 πŸ”— SketchCow because your year with the archive tells you that it just stops dead and that when someone drops a link in of a brand new thing, surely that means he's leaving it 100% broken
09:30 πŸ”— underscor maybe just needs a recache
09:31 πŸ”— underscor heh
09:31 πŸ”— underscor Oh, wow, it's actually almost been a year
09:31 πŸ”— underscor I guess it actually has been, hasn't it
09:31 πŸ”— SketchCow Is staying up until 5am the way to be social with your beach visit?
09:31 πŸ”— underscor Since you were hired following PDA2011, and then got me in touch shortly after
09:31 πŸ”— underscor :(
09:31 πŸ”— underscor No, I should probably go to bed
09:32 πŸ”— underscor I'm waiting for this CD to finish ripping
09:32 πŸ”— underscor Because the drive is noisy as fuck
09:32 πŸ”— SketchCow Yes, without you it'll never get it done
09:32 πŸ”— SketchCow Just watch it, like a boiling pot
09:33 πŸ”— underscor No, but I can't sleep with it vibrating
09:33 πŸ”— underscor and this drive is broken (It won't spin down)
09:33 πŸ”— SketchCow You'll find that out in college, too
09:33 πŸ”— underscor so I need to eject it when it's done
09:33 πŸ”— underscor hahahahah
09:35 πŸ”— godane i think i have over 100 episodes of GBTV
09:36 πŸ”— godane i think i may need a hard drive to ship to SketchCow
09:36 πŸ”— SketchCow GBTV?
09:36 πŸ”— godane glenn beck internet show
09:37 πŸ”— godane archive.org has 5 months worth of glenn beck on fox
09:39 πŸ”— SketchCow No.
09:39 πŸ”— SketchCow It has every show he ever did.
09:40 πŸ”— ersi Just because it isn't public, doesn't mean it doesn't exist
09:40 πŸ”— underscor ^
09:40 πŸ”— godane i was going by this: http://archive.org/details/GlennBeckProgram
09:51 πŸ”— godane SketchCow: Does it have the GBTV ones?
09:52 πŸ”— SketchCow Ni.
09:52 πŸ”— godane at least i have them
09:52 πŸ”— godane there are at least some people that wanted this shows archived
09:55 πŸ”— godane http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAtiPcNTpOM
10:01 πŸ”— godane i think captinusa has all of glenn beck shows
10:04 πŸ”— dnova if anyone needs some free storage: http://blindcode.net/
10:37 πŸ”— underscor hahaha
10:37 πŸ”— underscor that's great
11:15 πŸ”— dnova fleshed out the AT wiki facebook page, did a test and found that facebook's download deal is somewhat broken.
11:52 πŸ”— kennethre http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2012/04/preserving-the-internet-and-everything-else.html
11:52 πŸ”— kennethre SketchCow ^
12:07 πŸ”— ersi Hoho, awesome
12:07 πŸ”— ersi Cue the comments!
12:12 πŸ”— SmileyG i was just reading that
12:48 πŸ”— ersi Well, SketchCow's "Got my inbox cleared" surely is going to not hold on for too long with that much attention given to it
13:22 πŸ”— berndj what's the deal with random shareware on a floppy from the early 1990s? what if it's shareware in the sense that some dude gave it to me saying, "i wrote this; you can have this"? probably not explicitly shareware, but my social intuition at the time told me it was intended pretty much as that?
13:23 πŸ”— dnova you would have to ask the guy who wrote it
13:23 πŸ”— berndj and then, a whole pile of floppies with Stuff (tm) on it, most if not all of it likely to be pirated
13:23 πŸ”— berndj do we just let these things die gracefully if we can't contact the authors?
13:23 πŸ”— berndj from that codinghorror link i got the impression they want it anyway
13:24 πŸ”— ersi Of course they want it anyway
13:24 πŸ”— Nemo_bis I doubt most shareware have ever been explicitly declared such.
13:24 πŸ”— ersi YOU don't know what's worth saving. YOU don't know who's going to appreciate it
13:24 πŸ”— ersi Maybe someone will appreciate it in 100 years, maybe not - but it'll be there if you (try to) save it :)
13:25 πŸ”— berndj ersi, but are YOU going to pay my legal bills?
13:25 πŸ”— ersi I'm a bad person to ask for that question, because I would chip in
13:25 πŸ”— ersi Then again, what would someone sue YOU for? Giving away your physical plastic copy of something to someone else?
13:26 πŸ”— berndj realistically i don't see it as much of a risk, but i'd like to know where on the spectrum the archiving orgs are, where they stand on having a clean paper trail
13:26 πŸ”— ersi If they sue you because you put something online, making it publically available? Make it private
13:26 πŸ”— ersi They'll die one day. Sooner or later
13:26 πŸ”— berndj my physical plastic illegal copy :)
13:26 πŸ”— ersi Your physical plastic isn't illegal
13:27 πŸ”— ersi It's a plastic disc with a certain (slowly fading) magnetic properties
13:27 πŸ”— berndj no, i was assuming i'd copy it off the floppy
13:27 πŸ”— berndj not sure i want to give my physical artifact of the last century away :)
13:28 πŸ”— ersi It's a happy fun thought exercise, and while you ponder that - software, and other content - dies
13:29 πŸ”— Nemo_bis berndj, do you have proper reading devices to extract data without errors?
13:29 πŸ”— berndj Nemo_bis, i have floppy drives that i'm guessing still work just fine, just as they did last time i used them maybe 10 years ago
13:30 πŸ”— Nemo_bis You probably guess wrong I think.
13:30 πŸ”— berndj the floppies must be about 20 years old now, they seemed fine 10 years ago
13:31 πŸ”— ersi I'm not trying to piss on your parade, but I'd like to beg to differ - like Nemo_bis seems to be doing, as well
13:31 πŸ”— berndj i'll give it a try when i rebuild my other computer
13:33 πŸ”— ersi berndj: http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Rescuing_Floppy_Disks might interest you
13:33 πŸ”— ersi It's in no way conclusive, but it has interesting info
13:51 πŸ”— shaqfu Is there a meaningful difference between the offline life expectancy of HDD vs SSD?
13:53 πŸ”— shaqfu Working on the wiki, and want to make sure I get this right for cheap offsite storage
13:54 πŸ”— dnova that is a very complex issue
13:54 πŸ”— shaqfu That's what I feared :(
13:55 πŸ”— dnova offline storage of any type should be tested for recoverability every couple years at least
13:55 πŸ”— shaqfu Of course
13:59 πŸ”— shaqfu I'm just checking if "take HDD, put in safe deposit box, check yearly" is decent advice, or if I should mention SSDs at all
13:59 πŸ”— shaqfu Since my gut says that solid state electronics tend to be longer lived, but I need something more evidential than that :P
14:00 πŸ”— dnova nand flash cells have limited data retention periods
14:00 πŸ”— shaqfu How limited is limited?
14:00 πŸ”— Schbirid hi
14:00 πŸ”— shaqfu Shorter than magnetic platters?
14:00 πŸ”— shaqfu Hello
14:00 πŸ”— dnova datasheets commonly specify as low as 5 years for multi-level 28nm devices.
14:01 πŸ”— dnova I believe that NEDEC requires 10 year retention at 30C after the cycle life has been reached
14:01 πŸ”— dnova that is very generous
14:02 πŸ”— dnova but it's impossible to guarantee anything like that, no matter what kind of fake accelerated aging you do
14:02 πŸ”— shaqfu Right
14:02 πŸ”— shaqfu And the tech's too new to have done any real tests
14:02 πŸ”— dnova Don't make any statements about long term retention in various media
14:02 πŸ”— shaqfu Got it
14:03 πŸ”— shaqfu Wasn't planning on it, but wanted to check in in case there was something useful
14:03 πŸ”— dnova rather, make a statement that whatever media you choose, that you need to check it on a regular basis.
14:03 πŸ”— shaqfu 'course
14:03 πŸ”— dnova and 1 copy is not enough
14:04 πŸ”— dnova 1 location is also not enough
14:04 πŸ”— shaqfu dnova: My plan was to suggest one local backup and one offsite
14:05 πŸ”— dnova as a minimum yes
14:05 πŸ”— tef hey ersi it's about that time where I nag you to push stuff :3
14:05 πŸ”— shaqfu It's not bulletproof, but it'll stave off most catastrophic losses
14:09 πŸ”— ersi tef: good stuff, I'll take a look at it tonight
14:09 πŸ”— ersi tef: good nod ^_^
14:11 πŸ”— dnova it's about the 1 year anniversary of googlegrape
14:13 πŸ”— ersi I'll drink a beer in celebration
14:16 πŸ”— SmileyG googlegrape?
14:17 πŸ”— tef is it a raep joke, you know, cos, raep etc?
14:17 πŸ”— tef oh help i'm coming over all equality MUST HOLD BACK
14:17 πŸ”— dnova not sure where the name came from
14:17 πŸ”— ersi SmileyG: the g is silent
14:17 πŸ”— ersi google (video) rape project
14:17 πŸ”— tef dnova: male privilege :v :v
14:18 πŸ”— ersi also, sour grapes
14:40 πŸ”— DFJustin nice, cleaned up software page on archive.org
14:41 πŸ”— DFJustin now if we can just get something other than starr wars as the featured item :P
14:47 πŸ”— SketchCow Ha ha yes.
14:47 πŸ”— SketchCow We'll get there!
14:47 πŸ”— SketchCow I'll see if it's a forced or real staff pick.
14:52 πŸ”— SketchCow It was forced.
14:52 πŸ”— SketchCow Good eye. I killed it, let a thousand fucked up things bloom
14:53 πŸ”— Schbirid when you rip those CD ISOs, do you make more than one rip and compare checksums?
14:53 πŸ”— Schbirid i have lots of trouble getting most of my discs properly ripped
15:05 πŸ”— SketchCow I tend to just rip once, but keep the CDs.
15:15 πŸ”— DFJustin heh http://archive.org/post/416486/need-to-archive-the-sites-under-the-domain-homepagemaccom-and-webmecom
15:16 πŸ”— tef herp
15:22 πŸ”— SketchCow http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2012/04/preserving-the-internet-and-everything-else.html
15:23 πŸ”— SketchCow This is already leading to a LOT of donations.
15:24 πŸ”— balrog_ that's great.
15:25 πŸ”— balrog_ "It's a great resource, but it can be disappointing. So often it only collects say 1 or 2 pages from a site (repeatedly over time) and misses the rest (also repeatedly over time), even when the content is simple HTML and image links and should pose no obstacle (that is, not Flash, etc)." Ҁ” I've noticed that effectiveness isn't as good as I'd like for wayback. :(
15:27 πŸ”— underscor It's hard to do
15:27 πŸ”— underscor But yeah, same here
15:31 πŸ”— DFJustin infochimps can probably be taken off the archive.org software page too considering it just has test items
15:47 πŸ”— SketchCow I just consider it a challenge to grab that shit.
15:49 πŸ”— underscor it is
15:56 πŸ”— shaqfu Hm, AT wiki registration broken?
15:57 πŸ”— dnova have heard some grumblings of such
15:59 πŸ”— SketchCow Yes
15:59 πŸ”— SketchCow I have to fix it
16:03 πŸ”— SketchCow Let's do it. Someone grab all the free Infochimps shit, please
16:46 πŸ”— underscor is someone doing it? if not, I'll jump in
16:46 πŸ”— SketchCow NO YOU ARE ON VACATION
16:46 πŸ”— SketchCow Jesus, get in some sand
16:47 πŸ”— underscor I am on the beach
16:47 πŸ”— underscor at this very minute
16:48 πŸ”— underscor it is windy as fuck
16:48 πŸ”— underscor Besides, this *is* vacation for me
16:48 πŸ”— underscor :(
16:49 πŸ”— SketchCow SAD
16:49 πŸ”— SketchCow Outside
16:49 πŸ”— SketchCow Outsiiiiiiidie
16:50 πŸ”— underscor I am!
16:50 πŸ”— underscor I am sitting on a sand dune
16:50 πŸ”— underscor IRCing
16:50 πŸ”— underscor it's fantastic
16:54 πŸ”— chronomex NO MORE INTERNET
16:54 πŸ”— underscor :'(
17:01 πŸ”— Schbirid hm, if i try to use a 3.2.13 kernel on my ovh server it boots and pongs but no ssh or httpd. booting in 2.8.something again works fine. any ideas?
17:20 πŸ”— chronomex SketchCow: oh god no not star wars dance party
17:22 πŸ”— SketchCow The childhood thrashed until the Death Star disco ball.
17:22 πŸ”— SketchCow That finished it off
17:39 πŸ”— yipdw http://www.codinghorror.com/.a/6a0120a85dcdae970b0167648bebff970b-800wi <-- damn
17:39 πŸ”— yipdw I like that
17:41 πŸ”— DFJustin seems kind of precarious
17:42 πŸ”— underscor yipdw: http://home.us.archive.org/~edward/costco_drives/
17:42 πŸ”— yipdw hah
17:42 πŸ”— yipdw wait, those are all USB drives?
17:42 πŸ”— yipdw oh they're GoFlexes
17:42 πŸ”— yipdw hm
17:42 πŸ”— underscor they just rip them out
17:43 πŸ”— underscor it's to get around the rationing
17:43 πŸ”— yipdw oh ok
17:43 πŸ”— yipdw what do they do with the casings?
17:43 πŸ”— underscor There's a room full of empty casings
17:43 πŸ”— underscor (or there was, I think they ebay'd them or something)
17:43 πŸ”— underscor iunno
17:43 πŸ”— underscor they're nice cases
17:43 πŸ”— yipdw sell then on eBay for some extra cash
17:43 πŸ”— underscor what's even better is that the logic pieces are removable
17:43 πŸ”— underscor so you basically have usb3.0 docks
17:44 πŸ”— yipdw open a side business selling docks
17:44 πŸ”— Schbirid no-one talk to underscor, he is supposed to be internet-less
17:44 πŸ”— yipdw I'm sure he will be when high tide hits
17:44 πŸ”— underscor Schbirid: :(
17:44 πŸ”— yipdw speaking of which
17:44 πŸ”— underscor yipdw: hahahah
17:44 πŸ”— Schbirid heh
17:44 πŸ”— yipdw aren't you on a beach
17:44 πŸ”— underscor yeah
17:44 πŸ”— yipdw WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU NOT DIVING OR SNORKELING OR ETC
17:44 πŸ”— underscor it is very sandy :(
17:45 πŸ”— underscor because it's like 50 degrees
17:45 πŸ”— yipdw psh
17:45 πŸ”— underscor and I don't have a wetsuit
17:45 πŸ”— underscor (yet?)
17:45 πŸ”— yipdw you don't need a wetsuit to snorkel
17:45 πŸ”— underscor but it's COLD
17:45 πŸ”— underscor :(
17:45 πŸ”— Schbirid 50°C is HOT
17:45 πŸ”— yipdw he means 50 F
17:45 πŸ”— underscor Schbirid: :P
17:45 πŸ”— yipdw we don't use modern units in the US
17:45 πŸ”— underscor bastard
17:45 πŸ”— DFJustin make a sand castle
17:45 πŸ”— underscor I should make a SketchCow sand bust
17:46 πŸ”— yipdw ironic
17:46 πŸ”— yipdw the sand image of SketchCow will be washed away by the oceans
17:46 πŸ”— yipdw OF TIME
17:46 πŸ”— Schbirid iconic!
17:46 πŸ”— yipdw but the record of you doing so will live forever at badcheese.com/atlogs
17:46 πŸ”— yipdw IT'S SO FITTING
17:47 πŸ”— underscor true
17:47 πŸ”— underscor swebb: did you customize atlogbot?
17:47 πŸ”— underscor or is it stock?
17:57 πŸ”— bsmith093 yipdw: is the tracker still pulling new profiles
18:02 πŸ”— yipdw if I haven't said it's done, the answer is yes
18:49 πŸ”— asiekierk hey
18:51 πŸ”— Schbirid hi
19:52 πŸ”— swebb underscor: I wrote it from scratch
19:53 πŸ”— swebb The bot is pretty basic though.
19:53 πŸ”— underscor oh okay
19:53 πŸ”— underscor not open source?
19:53 πŸ”— underscor :)
20:24 πŸ”— swebb It's not closed source. :)
20:24 πŸ”— swebb I just haven't made it open yet.
20:26 πŸ”— swebb So, I took a new job about 4 weeks ago. For the last 3 weeks, I've been re-indenting every config file that I can find so that it displays properly. Apparently the old sysadmin didn't know that indentation made things easier to read.
20:30 πŸ”— SketchCow I just flung a 1.3gb _images.zip at archive.org
20:30 πŸ”— SketchCow Could be AWESOME
20:31 πŸ”— nitro2k01 swebb: Can't you do that automatically?
20:32 πŸ”— DFJustin I've done up to 1.77gb, it works but takes a long ass time
20:33 πŸ”— DFJustin http://www.us.archive.org/log_show.php?task_id=94993998
20:36 πŸ”— Coderjoe well, the configs could have been generated with some tool or other (for example, webmin), which could account for the lack of indentation
20:44 πŸ”— Nemo_bis my derive worked at last, I got a nice djvu http://ia600808.us.archive.org/18/items/VocabolarioDellaLinguaItaliana2/Zingarelli75.djvu
20:44 πŸ”— Nemo_bis had to reduce the _images.zip to only 6 GB though
20:47 πŸ”— SketchCow Oh yeah, it is HATING LIFE
20:50 πŸ”— swebb nitro2k01: It's things like puppet and nagios config files and I'm not aware of any tool that auto-indents those kinds of config files. I've seen tools to auto-indent languages like C and perl, but not puppet and nagios.
20:51 πŸ”— nitro2k01 Write one. Still faster than doing it manually I would assume.
20:51 πŸ”— nitro2k01 More initial work, less work per file.
20:52 πŸ”— bsmith093 is there a standalone warc file browser, so i can see inside the files and, maybe ofor offline browsing capabilities?
20:53 πŸ”— swebb nitro2k01: I'm not going to write a parser.
20:54 πŸ”— swebb nitro2k01: I wrote a recursive-decent parser when I was in college in 1992, but I've got more important things to do now. :)
20:54 πŸ”— swebb nitro2k01: I'm almost done anyway.
20:54 πŸ”— swebb nitro2k01: but it sucks.
20:56 πŸ”— Nemo_bis hmpf http://www.us.archive.org/log_show.php?task_id=100000000
21:04 πŸ”— SketchCow Watching the deriver deal. It's going aaaaarrrggggg
21:11 πŸ”— SketchCow Friendster may be completely uploaded (minus stragglers)
21:17 πŸ”— SketchCow -----------------------------
21:17 πŸ”— SketchCow HOORAY WE UPLOADED ALL OF FRIENDSTER WE DOWNLOADED
21:18 πŸ”— SketchCow ROUGHLY 20 MILLION ACCOUNTS, 14 TERABYTES, IN 114 PARTS
21:18 πŸ”— SketchCow GOOD JOB TEAM
21:18 πŸ”— SketchCow -----------------------------
21:23 πŸ”— balrog_ph Wow crazy. Good work :)
21:24 πŸ”— SketchCow Lot of people worked on that one.
21:24 πŸ”— SketchCow Next: Splinder
21:25 πŸ”— bsmith093 i thought splider was fully uploaded and saved?
21:25 πŸ”— bsmith093 splinder*
21:28 πŸ”— closure_ yeah, actually I have some 20 gb of friendster not yet uploaded
21:32 πŸ”— SketchCow There's going to be straggling a lot.
21:32 πŸ”— SketchCow We'll deal.
21:32 πŸ”— SketchCow But it's time to get 20tb of data shoved into archive.org
21:32 πŸ”— SketchCow and get off batcave
21:32 πŸ”— SketchCow I think we still need a second machine
21:35 πŸ”— underscor that's always exciting! :D
21:35 πŸ”— underscor MOAR MACHINES
21:35 πŸ”— underscor MOAR POWER
21:41 πŸ”— LordNlptp SketchCow: i would offer to lend my mac powerbook 170 for dc42ing disks, but the internal hard drive is bad and the screen is on the way out too
21:41 πŸ”— LordNlptp i have one spare internal scsi drive which i could swap in but with the screen about to flake out i dunno if its such a good idea...
21:50 πŸ”— shaqfu Awesome; wiki accounts are back up
21:50 πŸ”— shaqfu Editing time!
21:50 πŸ”— SketchCow Yes, try it
21:51 πŸ”— shaqfu Once I finish this page I will
21:59 πŸ”— tef def httpparse(fp): socket = FakeSocket(fp.read()+"\r\n") response = HTTPResponse(socket) response.begin()
21:59 πŸ”— tef fuuuuu
22:12 πŸ”— yipdw 14 terabytes of Friendster
22:12 πŸ”— yipdw damn
22:12 πŸ”— yipdw that's bigger than my Top Gear stash
22:13 πŸ”— Coderjoe what, if any, are the known stragglers?
22:17 πŸ”— underscor I have a 2TB disk to mail to SketchCow when I get back to VA
22:17 πŸ”— underscor dunno if there's any duping though
22:26 πŸ”— closure_ argh. I have here, in my inbox, a mail from someone with Walnut Creek and Infomagic CDROM archives of usenet.
22:26 πŸ”— closure_ and they're trying to do some kinda for-profit with them
22:27 πŸ”— Coderjoe because everyone prefers to gain income from stuff they touch. bills don't pay themselves. :(
22:28 πŸ”— closure_ they're welcome to make a profit, but I have a guess what they're gonna say when I come back asking for a copy
22:28 πŸ”— shaqfu For-profit? Is there that much interest in old Usenet postings?
22:29 πŸ”— alard Anyone who wants to help test the MeMac Warrior? (A virtual machine that downloads mobileme.) Here's an appliance you could run with VirtualBox: http://db.tt/fTnxH8PY
22:39 πŸ”— si-coop12 downloading it now, I'll give it a shot
22:51 πŸ”— alard Thanks. I'm hoping it will run on Windows, too.
22:52 πŸ”— kronoch works in vmware perfectly on linux
22:52 πŸ”— kronoch well, here at least
22:59 πŸ”— yipdw alard: checking it out on VirtualBox on OS X
22:59 πŸ”— tef alard: hey btw I heard your work on warc-wget mentioned in a talk by some archivists in australia :-)
22:59 πŸ”— yipdw I like how it's easier to validate it on platforms that already run the mobileme client well
22:59 πŸ”— yipdw well, at least in this channel
23:05 πŸ”— kronoch I can check it out on windows if you want; I just have to reboot
23:11 πŸ”— dashcloud closure_: can you get resell rights from them? (if so, the next step writes itself pretty much)
23:16 πŸ”— Coderjoe stupid dropbox
23:16 πŸ”— Coderjoe sends it as text/plain
23:17 πŸ”— kronoch yeah, I had that problem too
23:17 πŸ”— kronoch was wondering why firefox froze for a moment
23:19 πŸ”— Coderjoe what is the size of the ovf?
23:20 πŸ”— kronoch 253.7mb
23:39 πŸ”— DoubleJ Hey, anyone got a couple minutes to help me with some Linux networking stuff?
23:39 πŸ”— Zod_ what's up?
23:40 πŸ”— DoubleJ I've got a VM that's bridged through its host, so it and the host share their own 10.x.x.x network.
23:41 πŸ”— DoubleJ The VM needs to rsync to the real Linux box, which is on the same 192.168.x.x network as the host.
23:41 πŸ”— DoubleJ The VM can't figure out how to do this, so I have to rsync over the internet which is sucktastically slow.
23:41 πŸ”— DoubleJ (I get better throughput to FOS than to my own house)
23:42 πŸ”— DoubleJ Since VirtualBox is retarded I can't have the VM talk to the router directly: That stopped working a while ago.
23:42 πŸ”— BlueMax must be embarassing
23:42 πŸ”— DoubleJ So I need to know how to make the VM able to route to the 192.168 address and hopefully be able to rsync at > 300 kB/s.
23:42 πŸ”— DoubleJ BlueMax: Horribly so.
23:57 πŸ”— Coderjoe well, it appears that vmware player on windows doesn't like it. gives some error about being unable to verify source information
23:58 πŸ”— kronoch try virtualbox on windows
23:58 πŸ”— Coderjoe i was going to next
23:58 πŸ”— Coderjoe I have to upgrade it first
23:59 πŸ”— Zod_ DoubleJ: Can't even ping the other machine?
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