Time |
Nickname |
Message |
00:00
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godane1 |
SketchCow: there are some computer and video games magazines on out of print archive |
00:00
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|
godane1 |
issue 168-174 |
00:00
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|
godane1 |
i thought it ended in 1992 |
00:52
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|
closure_ |
holy christ.. |
00:53
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|
closure_ |
I read olduse.net , and "today" in 1982, someone posted source code to a terminal mode pacman game to it |
00:53
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|
closure_ |
so, I downloaded the files. Made 2 changes. built. run. |
00:53
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|
closure_ |
it works |
00:58
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|
closure_ |
http://source.olduse-net.branchable.com/?p=source.git;a=blob;f=doc/sources/pacman/pacman.c;h=95f78c345433b50d1a9ce7dc7a35edd35b6fb972;hb=HEAD |
01:02
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SketchCow |
closure_: Do you have it working somewhere? |
01:03
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|
closure_ |
yes |
01:03
🔗
|
closure_ |
100% working. |
01:03
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|
SketchCow |
Geez, where's the "download this" from GIT |
01:03
🔗
|
closure_ |
http://olduse.net/sources/pacman/ |
01:03
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|
closure_ |
for your wget pleasure |
01:03
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|
closure_ |
"make" should work, if you have the right dev libraries, on linux at least |
01:03
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|
zgrant |
What two changes did yo make? |
01:03
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|
zgrant |
*you |
01:04
🔗
|
closure_ |
1: commented out some function that seems to be included in curses these days |
01:04
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|
closure_ |
2. changed an extern int errno into #include <errno.h> |
01:04
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|
zgrant |
cool. Thanks for sharing this. |
01:04
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|
SketchCow |
Didn't work |
01:04
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|
closure_ |
I've had a harder time porting modern FreeBSD code to Linux. |
01:04
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|
SketchCow |
It downloaded Makefile as a index.html |
01:04
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|
closure_ |
ah, I see |
01:05
🔗
|
closure_ |
oh, my site htmlifid all the sources, how useless for you :) |
01:07
🔗
|
closure_ |
SketchCow: re-download. fixed. |
01:09
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|
SketchCow |
Well there it is. |
01:11
🔗
|
SketchCow |
It's a sweetie. |
01:11
🔗
|
closure_ |
/* Terminal handling for video games taken from aliens |
01:11
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|
DoubleJ |
Help me, for I do not Linux weel: |
01:11
🔗
|
closure_ |
/* Fall 1979 Cambridge Jude Miller |
01:11
🔗
|
DoubleJ |
curses.h: No such file or directory |
01:12
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|
closure_ |
I love that part |
01:12
🔗
|
closure_ |
apt-get install libncurses-dev |
01:12
🔗
|
closure_ |
so somewhere out there, possibly, is a 1979 space invaders clone done in curses |
01:13
🔗
|
DoubleJ |
Danke |
01:14
🔗
|
DFJustin |
http://www.mpp.mpg.de/~huber/vmssig/src/FOR/SPACE_INVADERS.FOR |
01:15
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|
closure_ |
aha, anther branch of the tree |
01:16
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|
DoubleJ |
Nice. Keys are kind of anti-intuitive nowadays but I could probably get used to it with practice. |
01:16
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|
* |
DFJustin installs gcc-g77 |
01:17
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|
SketchCow |
http://web.archiveorange.com/archive/v/nwbg9Le2Mf2Imk4cKOGL |
01:17
🔗
|
DoubleJ |
Cool find, closure |
01:21
🔗
|
closure_ |
I'm waiting for a nice old copy of rogue |
01:22
🔗
|
closure_ |
which is not being posted to usenet yet in 1982, to avoid spoilers, but is sent around to site admins |
01:22
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|
gui77 |
damn i really should learn regex :/ |
01:23
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|
gui77 |
renaming is such a bitch |
01:30
🔗
|
DFJustin |
well g77 hates that file |
01:33
🔗
|
DFJustin |
here's another branch http://peekbot.jamtronix.com:6502/all_texts/ftp://ftp.whtech.com/magazines/micropendium/disks/9408.dsk |
01:34
🔗
|
DFJustin |
seems to have gotten around ftp://195.5.253.194/pub/irix/src/irix-6.5.5-src/6.5.5/f/eoe/lib/libcurses/demo/aliens.c |
01:40
🔗
|
DFJustin |
http://interbutt.com/temp/aliens.png |
01:42
🔗
|
closure_ |
yeah, I got it going to, after commenting out draino(). trippy. controls don't work here |
01:42
🔗
|
DFJustin |
ok archive.org needs this shit http://peekbot.jamtronix.com:6502/ |
01:44
🔗
|
DFJustin |
space for laser beam works but nothing else |
01:46
🔗
|
closure_ |
cleared level 1 with only space :) |
01:56
🔗
|
DFJustin |
seriously holy shit http://peekbot.jamtronix.com:6502/all_texts/http%3A%2F%2Farchive.org%2Fdownload%2F2012-01-20-kryoflux-test-evening%2FSuccessful-Subset.zip.zip%2FComputer%2520Preperation%2520for%2520the%2520SAT%2520-%2520Vocabulary%2520Flashcards_s0.dsk |
02:04
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|
DFJustin |
http://peekbot.jamtronix.com:6502/native_file/http%3A%2F%2Farchive.org%2Fdownload%2Fcdrom-retrogamer-08%2FRetroGamer-Issue082004-09-28livePublishinggb.iso%2FDATA%252FCommodore%252064%252FHeavy%2520Metal%2520Paradroid.d64/12?display_mode=to_listing |
02:07
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|
closure_ |
wow, that's quite a chain of stuff |
02:08
🔗
|
closure_ |
petabox to iso to commodore disk image to basic tokenizer .. |
02:09
🔗
|
SketchCow |
That's an interesting thing there, Dopefish |
02:10
🔗
|
DFJustin |
there aren't actually a lot of suitable disk image collections on IA |
02:10
🔗
|
SketchCow |
It's too much for my brain to take in. |
02:10
🔗
|
DFJustin |
YET |
02:10
🔗
|
SketchCow |
There are |
02:10
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Not obvious, though |
02:11
🔗
|
SketchCow |
There's an argument to just making a huge-ass-zip |
02:13
🔗
|
SketchCow |
For what it's worth, I've got Jordan Mechner's assistant uploading more images of floppy disks. |
02:13
🔗
|
SketchCow |
And as they upload, the image pops up in a dropbox directory I'm mirroring here. |
02:13
🔗
|
SketchCow |
This is all the stuff that he didn't get the last tme |
02:14
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Here's the next question. |
02:15
🔗
|
SketchCow |
The program is ripxplore |
02:15
🔗
|
SketchCow |
peekbot's just a CGI wrapper for it |
02:15
🔗
|
DFJustin |
in terms of floppy bang for your buck I recently came across ftp://ftp.apple.asimov.net/pub/apple_II/images/other_archives/ |
02:17
🔗
|
SketchCow |
So, the next question is to talk to Jonno about the state of the project. |
02:17
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|
phed_ |
ima got 200gbit internet |
02:17
🔗
|
SketchCow |
It might be worth to throw some devs at the project |
02:17
🔗
|
phed_ |
and a tiny disk and 100mbit ethernet |
02:17
🔗
|
DFJustin |
mess' imgtool does some of the same kinds of things but in c |
02:18
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Yes |
02:18
🔗
|
DFJustin |
and with more bugs |
02:18
🔗
|
SketchCow |
When I say throw devs, I mean to whatever end. |
02:18
🔗
|
SketchCow |
I have no love or connection to ruby. |
02:18
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Perl's my bag. |
02:18
🔗
|
SketchCow |
But regardless. |
02:22
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Oh, and Yahoo is laying off 2000 employees |
02:22
🔗
|
SketchCow |
It's going to be quite something |
02:22
🔗
|
SketchCow |
I think we're about to lose a lot of Yahoo properties |
02:33
🔗
|
frame_at |
Good day, I like what the archive team does and would like to help out. |
02:34
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Mostly, Microbrewing |
02:34
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Do you know about hops? |
02:35
🔗
|
frame_at |
hehe |
02:36
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Also, let us know what sort of server you have access to, and what you like to do yourself. |
02:38
🔗
|
frame_at |
I'm a programmer and would like to provide scripts/tools to rip or process data. |
02:39
🔗
|
oli |
hi |
02:40
🔗
|
frame_at |
I also operate a 100mbit/s server in Austria, but only limited HDD space: good enough to run some helpers or take care of smaller things. |
02:40
🔗
|
frame_at |
Hi Oli |
02:43
🔗
|
oli |
I can help with the MobileMe thing, I've got a box on 100mbit link and over 1TB space, should i run the seesaw thing? |
02:44
🔗
|
zgrant |
Oli: yes, it is what I do and I don't have anywhere near the speed or space you do. |
02:47
🔗
|
dashcloud |
so what properties does Yahoo have that are user-generated content that aren't Flickr? |
02:49
🔗
|
closure_ |
yahoo email, yahoo groups |
02:50
🔗
|
oli |
zgrant: ok, im on it :D |
02:50
🔗
|
dashcloud |
apparently they still have message boards |
02:50
🔗
|
oli |
how many instances of seesaw.sh should i run w/ 100mbit? |
02:52
🔗
|
DFJustin |
yahoo answers |
02:53
🔗
|
SketchCow |
All need consideration |
02:54
🔗
|
zgrant |
oli: well, the bottle neck for me upload speed, so maybe you should gauge the number of instances off of your upload speed. |
02:54
🔗
|
oli |
okey |
02:55
🔗
|
zgrant |
oli: The best people to answer your question would be SketchCow, alard, kennethre, Coderjoe and closure_ |
02:55
🔗
|
oli |
why is SketchCow always in that list |
02:55
🔗
|
oli |
:P |
02:56
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Oli! It's been a while |
02:56
🔗
|
SketchCow |
We have our shit together more than the geocities days |
02:56
🔗
|
oli |
yes it has, i got busy and had no resources to help |
02:56
🔗
|
zgrant |
because SketchCow found a potion that allows him to ignore sleep. |
02:56
🔗
|
oli |
but now i have a good box unmetered in st louis so im back on board ! |
02:57
🔗
|
balrog_ |
DFJustin: irix stuff? |
02:59
🔗
|
DFJustin |
old program randomly happened to be preserved in an irix archive |
03:00
🔗
|
balrog_ |
DFJustin: there seems to be unusual irix versions and source |
03:00
🔗
|
balrog_ |
someone should lftp-clone or wget that |
03:03
🔗
|
oli |
jesus is kenneth running this shit on like 20 machines at once or something? |
03:04
🔗
|
frame_at |
Alright, I also just started the seesaw.sh on my box. Got 250GB spare, let's see if this helps |
03:04
🔗
|
* |
oli responds to frame_at with a "everything helps" positive comment! |
03:05
🔗
|
DFJustin |
kenneth works at heroku |
03:05
🔗
|
frame_at |
The geocities backup really impressed me. |
03:05
🔗
|
oli |
DFJustin: it says cloud on their site, must be good! |
03:05
🔗
|
oli |
my mind just blanks and i can only think good puffy white thoughts when i see the word cloud |
03:06
🔗
|
DFJustin |
damn wish I knew about lftp earlier, would have used it for mess instead of haphazardly updating |
03:07
🔗
|
balrog_ |
lftp is awesome |
03:07
🔗
|
balrog_ |
in large part because it can handle foreign scripts |
03:08
🔗
|
DFJustin |
double damn |
03:08
🔗
|
balrog_ |
that in itself is EXTREMELY useful |
03:08
🔗
|
balrog_ |
used it to archive cp1251 sites before |
03:08
🔗
|
balrog_ |
where normal FTP clients show ?????? |
03:08
🔗
|
frame_at |
hehe |
03:09
🔗
|
frame_at |
I use lftp to sync one of my bigger projects. doesn't break a sweat with huge directories. |
03:09
🔗
|
SvenG |
may i throw in "ncftp" as a nice client? also sports ncftpput and ncftpget.. |
03:09
🔗
|
balrog_ |
SvenG: just check out lftp. |
03:10
🔗
|
balrog_ |
it blows any other CLI client away. |
03:10
🔗
|
balrog_ |
http://lftp.yar.ru/ |
03:11
🔗
|
oli |
ftp is so 90s |
03:12
🔗
|
frame_at |
some admins still think it's safer than access via ssh (can't keep shell and sftp apart) |
03:12
🔗
|
DFJustin |
there's even a cygwin package, joy |
03:13
🔗
|
oli |
is mobileme hosted on US west coast or east? asking cause if i launch EC2 instance to help i want it closest :P |
03:15
🔗
|
frame_at |
oli, gallery. resolves to atlanta |
03:17
🔗
|
* |
oli checks a map |
03:17
🔗
|
oli |
I see |
03:17
🔗
|
frame_at |
East :p |
03:17
🔗
|
frame_at |
or East-ish |
03:19
🔗
|
frame_at |
web. resolves to Boston area. |
03:23
🔗
|
SvenG |
balrog_: checked lftp years ago.. still stayed with ncftp. :) |
03:25
🔗
|
balrog_ |
SvenG: have you had to deal with non-english ftp? |
03:25
🔗
|
balrog_ |
and non-unicode |
03:30
🔗
|
SvenG |
errrr |
03:30
🔗
|
SvenG |
you mean, dirs and file names in non-ascii? |
03:31
🔗
|
balrog_ |
yup |
03:31
🔗
|
balrog_ |
in weird code pages |
03:32
🔗
|
balrog_ |
like cp1251 |
03:33
🔗
|
SvenG |
cp1251... shades of windows? |
03:34
🔗
|
balrog_ |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows-1251 |
03:37
🔗
|
frame_at |
quick policy question. idling in here is OK? |
03:38
🔗
|
balrog_ |
yeah |
03:38
🔗
|
balrog_ |
as on most all irc channels |
03:40
🔗
|
frame_at |
started a 2nd instance, nite! |
04:10
🔗
|
underscor |
oli: they're on akamai, so you'll end up with usually one or two hops max |
04:10
🔗
|
underscor |
(the big media files) |
04:34
🔗
|
oli |
underscor: eggcellent |
04:34
🔗
|
oli |
and hi again ;) |
04:35
🔗
|
oli |
lots of photographers on me.com |
04:35
🔗
|
oli |
it seems |
04:36
🔗
|
balrog_ |
oli: yup |
04:36
🔗
|
oli |
im gonna catch up to you underscor :P |
04:54
🔗
|
underscor |
oli: :D |
04:54
🔗
|
underscor |
Do it! |
04:54
🔗
|
oli |
how long did it take to get where you are now? |
04:54
🔗
|
underscor |
on and off since the start of the project |
04:54
🔗
|
underscor |
it's been very fragmented |
04:54
🔗
|
oli |
when did it start? i just jjoined today |
04:54
🔗
|
underscor |
November I think |
04:55
🔗
|
oli |
hmm well ive done 19GB in a few hours |
04:56
🔗
|
oli |
oli: megankunisch1739MB |
04:56
🔗
|
oli |
lolwot |
04:56
🔗
|
oli |
nice http://web.me.com/megankunisch/Girls_Surf_Trip_Costa_Rica_March_09/Surf_Album.html |
06:16
🔗
|
SketchCow |
So much data |
06:16
🔗
|
* |
SketchCow is attacking the horrific back office of all the FTP/rsync uploads to batcave |
06:17
🔗
|
kennethre |
good luck :) |
06:17
🔗
|
Coderjoe |
mmm |
06:18
🔗
|
Coderjoe |
syslog spammed stuff on my whiptail dialog pane |
06:41
🔗
|
underscor |
whiptail? |
06:42
🔗
|
Coderjoe |
http://linux.die.net/man/1/whiptail |
06:42
🔗
|
underscor |
:o |
06:46
🔗
|
Coderjoe |
see also: http://i.imgur.com/rdQE9.png |
06:52
🔗
|
Coderjoe |
mmm |
06:53
🔗
|
Coderjoe |
alard: for the next update, perhaps ntpd should be installed, to keep the vm clock from drifting too far |
07:19
🔗
|
alard |
Coderjoe: I'm currently running ntpdate every ten minutes. People write that ntp gets worried and just gives up if the clock drifts too far, for example after you've paused the vm. |
07:20
🔗
|
alard |
The only suggestion I've found is to stop and restart ntpd frequently, but that seems weird. Perhaps you now of a more elegant solution than crontab-ntpdate? |
07:21
🔗
|
SketchCow |
I prefer ntpdate |
07:21
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Especially for the woodchuck box |
07:21
🔗
|
alard |
(And proxies, well, you can't rsync if you're behind a proxy.) |
07:22
🔗
|
Coderjoe |
restarting ntpd often will put a lot a bunch of extra load on the stratum 2/3 servers in the pool |
07:22
🔗
|
Coderjoe |
sure you can... I'm talking about (semi?) transparent http proxies |
07:22
🔗
|
alard |
Ah, I see. Should we do anything about that? |
07:23
🔗
|
SketchCow |
ha ha |
07:23
🔗
|
SketchCow |
f the stratum servers |
07:23
🔗
|
SketchCow |
serves them right |
07:23
🔗
|
alard |
ntpdate every ten minutes will also increase the load, won't it? |
07:24
🔗
|
Coderjoe |
not that bad |
07:24
🔗
|
Coderjoe |
ntpd ramps up the time between pokes as it runs |
07:24
🔗
|
* |
SketchCow is blasting the Marx Brothers while cleaning and assembling disk readers and pieces of boxes |
07:25
🔗
|
Coderjoe |
it starts at something like 64 seconds and extends it as it continues to get answers. |
07:51
🔗
|
Coderjoe |
mmm |
07:51
🔗
|
Coderjoe |
supposed parody music artists that don't understant Campbell v. Acuff-Rose Music, 510 U.S. 569 (1994) |
07:52
🔗
|
Coderjoe |
and think weird al asks permission out of legal requirement |
08:14
🔗
|
joepie92 |
http://vps-list.cryto.net/ :) |
09:44
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|
chronome1 |
alard: I've had NTP adjust my clock by multiple hours, dunno what you mean |
09:46
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|
alard |
chronome1: I haven't actually verified it myself, just something that appeared when I searched for it. For example, here http://www.binarysludge.com/2011/10/31/running-ntpntpd-on-a-development-virtual-machine-vm/ (not exactly an authoritative reference, but apparently it's sometimes a problem) |
09:47
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|
chronomex |
ah |
09:47
🔗
|
chronomex |
yeah I've had that issue |
09:47
🔗
|
chronomex |
ntpd != ntpdate |
09:55
🔗
|
ersi |
Well, sometimes running ntpd in a VM is silly |
09:56
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|
ersi |
like if you're on SLES 10.2.. which has some really fucked up clock/timing settings - making it skew like a motherfucker when virtual |
10:06
🔗
|
chronomex |
yeah I had VMs which slewed like a race car cornering on frozen vegetables |
10:41
🔗
|
godane1 |
i almost of the first 3 issues of Sega pro |
11:58
🔗
|
frame_at |
yay, first steps! (13GB over night :) |
13:03
🔗
|
godane1 |
SketchCow: do you guys have playstation game manuals? |
13:04
🔗
|
godane1 |
never mind |
13:04
🔗
|
godane1 |
there were on filesonic |
13:35
🔗
|
tef |
I have helped archive.org do shit today :3 feels good man |
14:12
🔗
|
kronoch |
K4K: ping |
14:13
🔗
|
kronoch |
wrong channel, sorry |
14:21
🔗
|
DFJustin |
http://filesharingtalk.com/threads/446591-NZBS-org-closing-on-April-19th-%28-%29 |
15:09
🔗
|
slickster |
call me im hot 1-561-299-8951 |
15:10
🔗
|
dnova |
someone op me |
15:11
🔗
|
emijrp |
You don't need that to call. |
15:11
🔗
|
dnova |
haha |
15:13
🔗
|
slickster |
lol |
15:20
🔗
|
emijrp |
do you know about wikidata, the new wikimedia project? |
15:20
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dnova |
no |
15:21
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emijrp |
it is in planning stage |
15:21
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dnova |
is it on the AT wiki? |
15:21
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emijrp |
it will be a repository for all kind of encyclopedic data |
15:22
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dnova |
ohhh |
15:22
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dnova |
an official project of the foundation |
15:22
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emijrp |
yep |
15:22
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emijrp |
its been launched by Wikimedia Germany |
15:22
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sethish |
mediawiki is a little weird for that purpose |
15:23
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sethish |
but it is as good of starting place as any. |
15:26
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emijrp |
there is a talk in freenode, #wikimedia-wikidata in an hour |
15:34
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Nemo_bis |
it's NOT a WMF project |
15:36
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emijrp |
not yet |
15:36
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emijrp |
you pedant |
15:36
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frame_at |
wiki-data sounds great. Giant Bomb does something similar with their gaming database "Wiskey" I believe. |
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Nemo_bis |
emijrp, will it ever be? |
15:42
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emijrp |
when phase 3 finishes, i read that WMF will adopt the project |
15:42
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emijrp |
i dont think that Wikipedia is going to use the interwiki (phase 1), infoboxes (phase 2) and queries (phase 3) from a third party project |
15:43
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SvenG |
"how i learned to stop worrying and love wiki$foo" |
15:43
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emijrp |
it is obvious, if wikidata is succesfull, it will be adopted by WMF or chapters |
16:04
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Nemo_bis |
wikidata is a software development project |
16:05
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Nemo_bis |
it will allow WMF to create a wiki with wikidata features, and we call WMF wikis "Wikimedia projects", but that's only the usual naming confusion |
16:50
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frame_at |
mobileme-grab: does seesaw.sh check fix free disk space before fetchings profiles that are big? |
16:50
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frame_at |
/s/fix/for |
16:56
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Nemo_bis |
frame_at, I don't think so; also, how would it know the size of the profile? |
16:59
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frame_at |
yeah, that's a good question. I didn't look at the source, but it could be that it's a two pass process. |
16:59
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frame_at |
Ok, have to stop my 3rd instance. Got only 10GB party space there. |
17:53
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alard |
frame_at: No, seesaw doesn't check. |
17:53
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frame_at |
ok, thanks. I'll be careful then. |
17:54
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alard |
Some profiles are very big. |
17:54
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frame_at |
yeah |
17:55
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frame_at |
I got one instance running on a vm with only one small partition. I'll stop doing that now. |
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yipdw |
frame_at: FYI, there's a monitor_free_space.sh script to do that |
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yipdw |
er, _ -> - |
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frame_at |
yipdw: perfect. thank you |
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SketchCow |
I had a torrent I was halfway downloading of PDFs. |
19:37
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SketchCow |
And then I stopped the torrent, not noticing it was done, and uploaded the PDFs. |
19:37
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SketchCow |
Do you know what archive.org's deriver doesn't like? That. |
19:37
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SketchCow |
I mean, it HANDLES it, like your girlfriend finding you vomited in the sink HANDLES it. |
19:37
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SketchCow |
But it doesn't like it. |
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LordNlptp |
so its like uploading swiss cheese pdfs instead of full ones? |
19:49
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SketchCow |
Exactly like that. |
20:14
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balrog_ |
so how goes guys? |
20:15
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balrog_ |
do we still have IRC logs? |
20:16
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emijrp |
http://badcheese.com/~steve/atlogs/ |
20:16
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balrog_ |
that works; Auguste's dont |