#archiveteam 2012-04-10,Tue

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00:10 πŸ”— balrog_-1 underscor: Take the Quadra definitely
00:10 πŸ”— balrog_-1 And the Lisa and maybe the II and IIci
00:11 πŸ”— Coderjoe he can't. he's nowhere near denver.
00:18 πŸ”— chronomex hey, I have an IIsi with a rather broken install of A/UX for giveaway, you pay shipping
00:18 πŸ”— chronomex I'm not shipping the monitor
00:18 πŸ”— chronomex shipping + handling I suppose
00:18 πŸ”— chronomex it was like $30 or so to ship in the us, so $50 gets it delivered to you
00:21 πŸ”— balrog_-1 Worth it still
00:21 πŸ”— balrog_-1 Monitor? Meh
00:21 πŸ”— balrog_-1 The machine is well worth it
00:22 πŸ”— godane are there any magazine you guys want me to grab from google books?
00:22 πŸ”— godane stuff that may disappear
00:26 πŸ”— balrog_-1 chronomex: That's not in my area
00:26 πŸ”— balrog_-1 I can email and ask if he will ship the 840
00:27 πŸ”— chronomex balrog_-1: hrm?
00:27 πŸ”— balrog_-1 The craigslist 840av
00:27 πŸ”— chronomex oh
00:27 πŸ”— balrog_-1 An 840av is next to impossible to get
00:28 πŸ”— chronomex when I built this system, A/UX was about impossible to get :]
00:28 πŸ”— balrog_-1 ;)
01:19 πŸ”— shaqfu Silly idea - anyone here familiar with machine language processing?
01:21 πŸ”— shaqfu I was thinking about if it's at the point where it can be used to describe these mondo-huge texty collections we have
01:24 πŸ”— shaqfu Because my mental math says you're never getting people to do that
03:39 πŸ”— nitro2k01 Just got an e-mail "Lifetime memberships now available at FileFactory - Go Unlimited, Go Forever!"
03:39 πŸ”— nitro2k01 Or, go unlimited, go forever until the feds take us
03:43 πŸ”— winr4r yes
03:43 πŸ”— winr4r and go "unlimited" which is to say "we have limits but we don't tell you what they are upfront"
03:44 πŸ”— nitro2k01 They're actually kind enough to mention that in the e-mail
03:44 πŸ”— nitro2k01 Unlimited downloads, downlaod speed and storage
03:44 πŸ”— nitro2k01 And later, 100 GB daily bandwidth
03:45 πŸ”— nitro2k01 Unlimited download speed will of course probably meand 20-30 MBit/s or so
04:21 πŸ”— godane nitro2k01: At least its 100gb daily and not monthly
04:21 πŸ”— nitro2k01 Of course. It's a file locker we're talking about, not an ISP :p
04:22 πŸ”— godane oh
04:22 πŸ”— godane i have heard in japan you can only upload like 30gb daily
04:22 πŸ”— nitro2k01 Yup
04:22 πŸ”— godane but unlimited download
04:23 πŸ”— nitro2k01 Here (Sweden) there are typically no limits, except for mobile connections
04:24 πŸ”— godane i archived most of the missing maximum pc magazines
04:25 πŸ”— godane i wish there was a more fuller collection
04:25 πŸ”— godane only goes back to october of 1998
04:27 πŸ”— godane are there anyone with boot magazines?
04:54 πŸ”— lemonkey http://www.slashgear.com/microsoft-quietly-buys-netscape-browser-technology-09222093/
05:33 πŸ”— no2pencil Is Knol a current project?
06:21 πŸ”— yipdw so, C++ curiosity
06:21 πŸ”— yipdw today I learned this works: https://gist.github.com/368e874c705e1a5fd7d6#file_wtf.cpp
06:22 πŸ”— chronomex hrm, what's the curiosity?
06:23 πŸ”— yipdw obj->XMLParse(...) works with obj == NULL
06:23 πŸ”— yipdw a first pass of that code (by my eyes) looks like an immediate segfault
06:23 πŸ”— yipdw turns out that the deref just doesn't happen in the compiled code
06:23 πŸ”— chronomex ah, weird
06:23 πŸ”— yipdw I have no idea why
06:23 πŸ”— yipdw I don't know if that's some weird g++ optimization or actually in the C++ language standard
06:23 πŸ”— DFJustin the method doesn't reference any member variables I guess
06:24 πŸ”— yipdw it doesn't, and it's non-virtual
06:24 πŸ”— yipdw make it virtual and it will segfault (you'll get a call rbx with rbx equal to 0x0)
06:24 πŸ”— yipdw still, though, why the fuck is that allowed :P
06:24 πŸ”— yipdw if I saw that in a code review I'd flag it with a "why are you doing this"
06:25 πŸ”— balrog_ph yipdw: Test it with clang ;)
06:26 πŸ”— balrog_ph Clang has quite decent C++ and even C++11 support nowadays if you use their C++ lib
06:26 πŸ”— yipdw the only version I have is the one that ships with XCode 4
06:26 πŸ”— yipdw hopefully that's recent enough
06:26 πŸ”— balrog_ph That one should do C++
06:26 πŸ”— balrog_ph For C++11 you need svn
06:26 πŸ”— balrog_ph It still doesn't support bsnes because of byuu's use of many gccisms
06:26 πŸ”— balrog_ph :/
06:27 πŸ”— yipdw balrog_ph: it works
06:27 πŸ”— balrog_ph Huh
06:27 πŸ”— yipdw under clang++ 2.0
06:27 πŸ”— yipdw I'm trying to read drafts of the C++ language standards
06:27 πŸ”— yipdw I might as well go shoot myself in the face
06:38 πŸ”— yipdw hm
06:38 πŸ”— yipdw http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2474018/when-does-invoking-a-member-function-on-a-null-instance-result-in-undefined-beha
14:33 πŸ”— Obamao Hillary says "show me the money!!!" to Syria and Iran! ... check it out
14:33 πŸ”— Obamao Very funny video!
14:33 πŸ”— Obamao http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRw8I8eyQ0M
14:43 πŸ”— nitro2k01 Go and report that video for spam, mass advertisement
15:56 πŸ”— oli underscor: i got a euro bank account, can get a euserv box now probably
15:56 πŸ”— oli will look into it again a bit later and let you know, not sure if you are interested but could share something w/ a few people and sort $ out via paypal for the non EU'ers
16:46 πŸ”— godane SketchCow: I'm backing up maximum pc from google books
16:47 πŸ”— godane likes like none of the ads are in the maximum pc in there pdf archive
16:52 πŸ”— closure I'd hate to see google book's version of PC Shopper
16:52 πŸ”— closure it's be like 10 pages
16:53 πŸ”— godane luckly maximum pc is the other way with google books
16:54 πŸ”— godane like like 70 pages from there archive
16:54 πŸ”— godane but google books has 100+ pages with all the ads
17:54 πŸ”— ersi http://www.freewebs.com/leviklausen/
17:54 πŸ”— ersi ahhh
17:58 πŸ”— winr4r excellent
18:10 πŸ”— godane codebear: any good news about those first 4 floss weekly podcast?
18:17 πŸ”— Schbirid http://www.wearcam.org/computing.html/borgs_outside_medialab.jpg
18:19 πŸ”— shaqfu When was that taken?
18:23 πŸ”— Ymgve around 1990 I think
18:23 πŸ”— Ymgve the guy on the left has a "i'm watching porn right now" look
18:24 πŸ”— shaqfu Yeah, fashion and tech make me think mid 90's
18:25 πŸ”— shaqfu Wonder if the fellow with the antenna is picking up CB on that thing
18:30 πŸ”— sethish That is Steve Mann
18:31 πŸ”— sethish I think that is walter bender 4th from the left
18:31 πŸ”— sethish maybe
18:31 πŸ”— sethish I remember the third guy from the left from the Alan Alda special for PBS
19:34 πŸ”— SketchCow A LOT OLF UPLOADING
19:35 πŸ”— ersi Upload ALL THE THINGS
19:41 πŸ”— SketchCow So much goddamned mobileme
19:43 πŸ”— SketchCow For example, there's currently 2.8tb being uploaded from the fortress right now.
19:43 πŸ”— SketchCow The Batcave is basically empty of mobileme, however. I think.
19:43 πŸ”— SketchCow A lot of it.
19:45 πŸ”— shaqfu SketchCow: Did you figure out long-term storage for MobileMe?
19:47 πŸ”— yipdw upload MobileMe back into iCloud
19:48 πŸ”— ersi Sorta like a fax-loop
19:48 πŸ”— dnova haha
19:48 πŸ”— shaqfu Rofl
19:48 πŸ”— shaqfu Roll all of AT's collections into one giant .tar and keep pushing it one step forward on the storage track
19:49 πŸ”— yipdw I heard you like archives, so we archived your archives containing the archived archives
19:49 πŸ”— yipdw etc.
19:49 πŸ”— shaqfu 90's-era webhosts -> web2.0 stuff -> cloud stuff -> ???
19:49 πŸ”— shaqfu It'll be like a Katamari of storage
19:50 πŸ”— ersi Rollin' rollin' rollin'
19:51 πŸ”— shaqfu One giant ball of stuff, ALWAYS GROWING
19:51 πŸ”— frame_at ???: -> some stuff where rights holders can delete things with a search query.
19:52 πŸ”— shaqfu Probably :(
19:52 πŸ”— ersi If you didn't catch it, we were making funnies
19:52 πŸ”— ersi funsies is allowedsis
19:53 πŸ”— shaqfu Archiving's srs bsn
19:53 πŸ”— yipdw well, on the other hand, at least ??? will be searchable
19:53 πŸ”— yipdw that's a step up from today
19:54 πŸ”— frame_at I'd prefer a world where every data storage request is routed via SketchCow's machine. Would make archiving much easier.
19:54 πŸ”— yipdw that'd be interesting actually
19:54 πŸ”— frame_at "bearded cloud" if you will
19:54 πŸ”— yipdw outfit all routers with an archive pipe
19:55 πŸ”— yipdw like tee
19:55 πŸ”— yipdw except on a vastly bigger scale
19:55 πŸ”— yipdw HEY WAIT
19:55 πŸ”— shaqfu He'd be like one of those super secret NSA projects conspiracy theorists love
19:55 πŸ”— yipdw who said that the key to a Web 2.0 company was to take a UNIX tool and put it on the Web?
19:55 πŸ”— yipdw I think we just figured out how to do tee
19:56 πŸ”— shaqfu Hah
19:58 πŸ”— SketchCow At this point, archive.org can take MobileMe
19:58 πŸ”— shaqfu Light or dark?
20:02 πŸ”— SketchCow What, like coffee?
20:03 πŸ”— shaqfu Like, will the disks be active or not
20:03 πŸ”— shaqfu Weren't you discussing putting in in a dark archive?
20:05 πŸ”— underscor lol
20:05 πŸ”— SketchCow Yes
20:05 πŸ”— SketchCow FOR THE MOMENT, "light"
20:05 πŸ”— ersi Like we freggin' care. Push it in, it's someone elses problem :)
20:06 πŸ”— underscor mmmm
20:06 πŸ”— underscor just got 4 machines with 32gb ram and 10gigE links for mobileme
20:06 πŸ”— underscor I guess I should have alard set me up with s3
20:06 πŸ”— SketchCow Yes, or I will literally kill you
20:06 πŸ”— underscor SketchCow: <3
20:06 πŸ”— underscor CLOG ALL THE FOS
20:07 πŸ”— SketchCow ====================================================
20:07 πŸ”— SketchCow SO, WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO WRITE DESCRIPTIONS OF SOME
20:07 πŸ”— SketchCow COMPUTER MAGAZINES IN THE ARCHIVE.ORG COLLECTION?
20:07 πŸ”— SketchCow IT IS REALLY BORING BUT REALLY IMPORTANT
20:07 πŸ”— SketchCow ====================================================
20:07 πŸ”— ersi how about
20:07 πŸ”— yipdw underscor: where the fuck do you get these resources
20:07 πŸ”— ersi yes
20:07 πŸ”— ersi maybe
20:07 πŸ”— alard underscor: Hi.
20:07 πŸ”— underscor http://fridaynighttech.com/
20:07 πŸ”— underscor it's not that bad, play this while doing it
20:08 πŸ”— underscor alard: can you pm me the gist with the s3 info?
20:08 πŸ”— underscor I lost the link
20:08 πŸ”— alard Yes.
20:08 πŸ”— underscor yipdw: what can I say, people love giving me way more access/machines/resources than I should have
20:08 πŸ”— underscor just ask SketchCow
20:08 πŸ”— underscor ;D
20:08 πŸ”— alard Although we should check your upload speed to s3 first, since batcave isn't *that* fast.
20:09 πŸ”— underscor 1 ae0-200b.cr1.ord2.us.your.org (204.9.52.46) 1.522 ms 0.574 ms 0.587 ms
20:09 πŸ”— underscor 2 chi-ibx.r1.ord1.isc.org (206.223.119.2) 3.159 ms 5.279 ms 3.261 ms
20:09 πŸ”— underscor 3 int-0-0-1-8.r1.pao1.isc.org (149.20.65.157) 80.545 ms 60.629 ms 57.697 ms
20:09 πŸ”— underscor kenobi# traceroute batcave.textfiles.com
20:09 πŸ”— underscor traceroute to batcave.textfiles.com (207.241.236.249), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets
20:09 πŸ”— underscor 4 int-0-0-1-0.r1.sql1.isc.org (149.20.65.10) 57.494 ms 55.312 ms 56.575 ms
20:10 πŸ”— underscor 5 isc-ia.archive.org (149.20.56.165) 55.361 ms 60.015 ms 55.980 ms
20:10 πŸ”— underscor 6 teamarchive-0.us.archive.org (207.241.236.249) 55.789 ms 55.715 ms 55.475 ms
20:10 πŸ”— underscor nice route
20:10 πŸ”— underscor all isc too
20:10 πŸ”— SketchCow http://ia601205.us.archive.org/3/items/model-engineers-workshop-magazine-001/Model_Engineers_Workshop_Magazine_001.pdf
20:10 πŸ”— SketchCow Enjoy while it's there
20:10 πŸ”— SketchCow It's going to go away sooner rather than later
20:10 πŸ”— ersi 48MB, JFYI
20:11 πŸ”— SketchCow No spoilers
20:11 πŸ”— winr4r ooh possibility of something vaguely train related *downloads*
20:13 πŸ”— SketchCow Yeah, it's going to go dark after render.
20:13 πŸ”— SketchCow It's still being published.
20:13 πŸ”— SketchCow I just had it on the drive and I'm shoving it into the set.
20:13 πŸ”— ersi I've downloaded it ^_^
20:13 πŸ”— SketchCow http://www.demonoid.me/files/details/2453137/004463122433/
20:13 πŸ”— SketchCow I'd just get it there
20:14 πŸ”— SketchCow http://www.model-engineer.co.uk/editorial/page.asp?p=419
20:14 πŸ”— SketchCow Or buy access
20:18 πŸ”— underscor oh, talking with the isc guys
20:18 πŸ”— underscor they only have a 1gbps backhaul from chicago to san fran
20:18 πŸ”— godane i have some stuff for your dark rack
20:18 πŸ”— underscor so I won't saturate the upstream to batcave
20:18 πŸ”— SketchCow godane: EMAIL
20:18 πŸ”— underscor but I can still pull down onto the 8tb of local storage
20:18 πŸ”— godane ok
20:20 πŸ”— godane your dark-rack-magazine section looked very thin for something called dark-rack-magazine
20:20 πŸ”— godane it only had 59 items when i was there
20:21 πŸ”— alard Perhaps the others were dark?
20:21 πŸ”— SketchCow You would normally see the light bulb go off over his head
20:22 πŸ”— SketchCow But I think that is dark too
20:25 πŸ”— underscor hahahaha
20:25 πŸ”— frame_at SketchCow: are you aware of other guys archiving mags like you do, but for other languages?
20:26 πŸ”— frame_at huh. Ars Technica got flagged by Google
20:26 πŸ”— Frigolit lol, it is indeed
20:26 πŸ”— Frigolit damn ad-providers
20:26 πŸ”— frame_at yeah
20:27 πŸ”— ersi haha
20:27 πŸ”— frame_at congratulations! you're the 1 millionth visitor. click here to claim your infection.
20:27 πŸ”— SketchCow Well, OK, so.
20:27 πŸ”— Frigolit :)
20:27 πŸ”— shaqfu frame_at: There are loose individuals, but dunno of anyone to track down offhand
20:28 πŸ”— SketchCow There are LOTS of people who are doing archiving of magazines, and lots of people scanning runs for a specific purpose.
20:28 πŸ”— SketchCow Bombjack is the king in america, with commodore-related and atari-related items, for example
20:28 πŸ”— SketchCow heavily involved with Atari Magazines, a site which has lots of stuff
20:28 πŸ”— SketchCow Now, ALL I'm doing is taking a lot of these scans and putting them on archive.org, that's pretty much what I'm doing at this point
20:29 πŸ”— SketchCow I haven't TOUCHED my own paper archives, which are significant and challenge smaller libraries and I'm NOT exaggerating.
20:29 πŸ”— SketchCow In other countries, there are a number of sites and groups, also disparate, also doing this.
20:29 πŸ”— SketchCow One of them, a French one, went absolutely apeshit when I put them on archive.org
20:29 πŸ”— SketchCow So they're there but dark.
20:29 πŸ”— SketchCow For now.
20:30 πŸ”— shaqfu Scene drama? :(
20:30 πŸ”— SketchCow Scene Drama is giving it too much credit or meaning.
20:30 πŸ”— SketchCow They just don't want it showing up on an american archive
20:30 πŸ”— DFJustin yeah there's loads, I think I sent you portuguese, czech, and hungarian ones a while back
20:30 πŸ”— SketchCow All their negotiations are on the french side
20:30 πŸ”— SketchCow They're not comfortable with them wholesale showing up
20:31 πŸ”— SketchCow RIGHT NOW, I have no overriding priority to fight them
20:31 πŸ”— SketchCow I added a thousand magazine issues.
20:31 πŸ”— SketchCow THIS WEEK.
20:31 πŸ”— frame_at That's what I was kinda trying to figure out. If there's an international approach or a per country effort (e.g. with regional funds)
20:31 πŸ”— SketchCow No slowdowns
20:31 πŸ”— yipdw tell them you're German, they'll surrender
20:31 πŸ”— underscor lol
20:33 πŸ”— godane SketchCow: would you have to put techtv shows in the dark?
20:33 πŸ”— godane i only ask cause g4 still takes down thoses videos
20:33 πŸ”— SketchCow No idea
20:33 πŸ”— godane ok
20:34 πŸ”— godane i will have upload to archive.org cause there is like maybe two or there items of the screen savers on there
20:34 πŸ”— frame_at looking at that old mag-scan kinda makes me sad that geocities ads didn't get archived as well.
20:36 πŸ”— shaqfu Admittedly, they haven't changed much; just gone from "shoot Bill Clinton for a Playstation" to "shoot Joe Biden for an iPad"
20:38 πŸ”— godane would hope something like maximum pc wouldn't care if archive.org also has a copy of there magazines
20:38 πŸ”— godane there there older ones for free on there site
20:39 πŸ”— DFJustin http://gawker.com/5899787/finding-goatse-the-mystery-man-behind-the-most-disturbing-internet-meme-in-history
20:39 πŸ”— Schbirid gawker, quality journalism
20:40 πŸ”— SketchCow I refused to be in that article.
20:40 πŸ”— Schbirid thanks
20:40 πŸ”— ersi Gawking sounds like something you'd do to balls
20:40 πŸ”— ersi or something
20:40 πŸ”— godane SketchCow: i think you have some of his stuff
20:41 πŸ”— ersi I don't get why you care if someone else cares about the content
20:42 πŸ”— ersi what matters IMO is that there'll be copies. Copies that resides at the awesome IA org
20:45 πŸ”— Schbirid i hate to admit, but that goatse article is actually quite nice
20:46 πŸ”— SketchCow Who cares what cares.
20:46 πŸ”— SketchCow Is that to me?
20:46 πŸ”— Schbirid nah, to the world
20:48 πŸ”— SketchCow 16:48 <@ersi> I don't get why you care if someone else cares about the content
20:49 πŸ”— SketchCow I meant that
20:49 πŸ”— SketchCow OH IRC
20:49 πŸ”— Schbirid ohyes
20:50 πŸ”— ersi HI INTERNET
20:53 πŸ”— SketchCow I'm, like, "so, why is so much space being used on batcave, even after shoving off all of mobileme? ah, yes, SPLINDER"
20:53 πŸ”— ersi fuck yeah!
21:02 πŸ”— godane SketchCow: would you be able to setup a twit podcast sub-section?
21:03 πŸ”— godane i like the same to be down with revision3 too
21:03 πŸ”— SketchCow I can do anything
21:04 πŸ”— godane here is may podcasts that i have uploaded:
21:04 πŸ”— godane http://archive.org/details/abbys_road
21:04 πŸ”— godane http://archive.org/details/roz_rows_the_pacific
21:04 πŸ”— godane http://archive.org/details/this_week_in_fun
21:04 πŸ”— SketchCow > x-archive-meta-title:Archive Team: The MP3.COM Skeleton Collection
21:05 πŸ”— SketchCow I'd like to interview you for a PCWorld story this is scheduled to run this Friday. The story is about Archive Team.
21:05 πŸ”— SketchCow Jason,
21:05 πŸ”— SketchCow Let me know,
21:05 πŸ”— SketchCow .....nice to wait until fucking tuesday
21:06 πŸ”— winr4r lovely
21:06 πŸ”— winr4r still, publicity woohoo
21:09 πŸ”— SketchCow is it THAT hard to send things in e-mail, godane?
21:09 πŸ”— SketchCow Everyone else in here does.
21:10 πŸ”— SketchCow See, when you drop it here, you make it a CRITICAL ACTION ITEM
21:10 πŸ”— SketchCow Also, only ONE PERSON CAN ACT ON IT, that person being me
21:10 πŸ”— SketchCow Otherwise, it WILL scroll off and I will forget, so I have to drop everything, and do it
21:11 πŸ”— godane sorry
21:11 πŸ”— SketchCow http://archive.org/details/this_week_in_fun
21:11 πŸ”— SketchCow http://archive.org/details/twit-podcasts&recache=1 will eventually have them all
21:12 πŸ”— godane this will have to be the auido only version
21:12 πŸ”— godane since there is videos too
21:15 πŸ”— SketchCow I just made the PCWorld guy switch from write me 5 questions and I write fucking essays to he calls me and I respond.
21:18 πŸ”— aggro Well, seeing as he's the one asking for an interview I'd say he pretty much has to do things your way :P
21:18 πŸ”— SketchCow Yes
21:18 πŸ”— SketchCow I fucking hate essays
21:18 πŸ”— SketchCow I told him straight out, he might never get them
21:18 πŸ”— SketchCow I get students who write me fucking insane questions
21:19 πŸ”— SketchCow Like "What can the world do to make their data safe? Are there known procedures you can link to? Where have people historically stored the data?"
21:19 πŸ”— SketchCow And it'll be one of 10 questions.
21:19 πŸ”— SketchCow Seriously.
21:19 πŸ”— SketchCow I'd have to hire someone to write them
21:19 πŸ”— SketchCow It's like
21:19 πŸ”— aggro lmgtfy.com
21:19 πŸ”— SketchCow 1. Will you do all my work?
21:19 πŸ”— SketchCow a. Yes
21:19 πŸ”— SketchCow b. Immediately
21:19 πŸ”— yipdw where have people historically stored the data?
21:19 πŸ”— yipdw IN CAVES
21:19 πŸ”— SketchCow c. right away sir
21:24 πŸ”— chronomex d. how else can I help you
21:24 πŸ”— shaqfu SketchCow: Wait, did you get the original questions? They might make a good start for wiki essays
21:26 πŸ”— shaqfu I put one together; looking for another
21:26 πŸ”— ersi SketchCow has the property of being a magnificient fucking beacon of light
21:27 πŸ”— ersi People just swarm around
21:30 πŸ”— chronomex yes like a fly zapper lamp
21:41 πŸ”— SketchCow We're chatting
21:41 πŸ”— SketchCow Me and the fun
21:59 πŸ”— frame_at A week ago I came in here the first time and asked "how can I help". So far I've helped a bit at the mobile.me backup. I'd like to do more and would consider renting a dedicated machine with unlimited traffic to run a few more jobs. Is this something the archive team would help directly or should I invest the same money into somethin else?
22:01 πŸ”— aggro My understanding is that several members have VPS's, Dedi's, or some other high-bandwidth presence from which to run the scripts. I sure can't pull the numbers they do from my connection at home :P
22:02 πŸ”— aggro And from experience, "unlimited bandwidth" is hardly ever so. Especially when you actually start to use it.
22:03 πŸ”— frame_at Yeah, I'd of course check the fineprint. unlimited seems to be a relative term.
22:04 πŸ”— aggro I've seen legitimate "unlimited" 10Mbps and 100Mbps links, but they were at 800$/mo and 1600$/mo respectively.
22:04 πŸ”— winr4r it tends to mean "we have limits and we know them when we see them"
22:04 πŸ”— frame_at Still, I wouldn't want to just donate. Suits can do that. IMO yet another dedicated machine might not do much, but it will give me something to do, also for different jobs. maybe regional ones.
22:04 πŸ”— SketchCow http://archive.org/search.php?query=collection%3Amodel-engineers-workshop-magazine&sort=-publicdate
22:04 πŸ”— SketchCow Enjoy it for an hour, before I dark it!
22:05 πŸ”— balrog_ dark?
22:05 πŸ”— winr4r awesome.
22:05 πŸ”— aggro is that a challenge? :P
22:05 πŸ”— frame_at balrog_: no web access, put in the freezer :)
22:05 πŸ”— balrog_ uhh, why!?
22:07 πŸ”— winr4r balrog_: because there's stuff that they can't have publically available for copyright reasons, i.e. the copyright holders are still publishing/charging for the stuff
22:07 πŸ”— balrog_ ;(
22:07 πŸ”— balrog_ this needs to be archived elsewhere
22:07 πŸ”— winr4r it'll still be on archive.org's servers, just not publically visible
22:07 πŸ”— balrog_ I know :(
22:08 πŸ”— SketchCow Go torrent it, kid
22:08 πŸ”— balrog_ ahh, this is on the torrent sitesҀ¦? ok
22:08 πŸ”— balrog_ SketchCow: OOH
22:08 πŸ”— SketchCow OOOOH
22:08 πŸ”— balrog_ is the Schickele Mix in archive.org darkened?
22:08 πŸ”— balrog_ if not, it sure as hell should be
22:08 πŸ”— aggro Not too difficult I suppose:
22:08 πŸ”— aggro for i in {001..163}; do wget http://archive.org/download/model-engineers-workshop-magazine-001/Model_Engineers_Workshop_Magazine_$i.pdf ; done
22:08 πŸ”— balrog_ http://www.schickele.com/mix/
22:08 πŸ”— aggro derp.
22:08 πŸ”— SketchCow Wait
22:09 πŸ”— SketchCow You mean "is it duped on archive.org in some way"?
22:09 πŸ”— balrog_ yes
22:09 πŸ”— aggro for i in {001..163}; do wget http://archive.org/download/model-engineers-workshop-magazine-$i/Model_Engineers_Workshop_Magazine_$i.pdf; done
22:09 πŸ”— SketchCow Guess what you're downloading and preparing.
22:09 πŸ”— balrog_ because it's only on a few torrents, that are not that well seeded
22:09 πŸ”— balrog_ and could die anytime
22:09 πŸ”— balrog_ I have it
22:09 πŸ”— SketchCow Good, upload it
22:09 πŸ”— balrog_ gonna have to find it on one of my archive hdds
22:09 πŸ”— SketchCow Or, I should say, give me the files, I'll add them in.
22:09 πŸ”— balrog_ and ul it
22:09 πŸ”— balrog_ give me an ftp, and a few days to find it.
22:10 πŸ”— SketchCow write me an e-mail requesting
22:10 πŸ”— SketchCow http://i.imgur.com/IpIZs.jpg
22:11 πŸ”— frame_at Penn, you reasonable bastard
22:12 πŸ”— aggro The main reason to pay for showtime
22:14 πŸ”— frame_at his latest podcast format never worked for me.
22:15 πŸ”— frame_at too fast, ads mixed in, either shaky or blurry static camera
22:46 πŸ”— godane i have thought of away archive.org could make money
22:46 πŸ”— godane sell hard drives with collections
22:48 πŸ”— ersi Yeah, great idea
22:48 πŸ”— ersi They could also start a file locker
22:48 πŸ”— ersi with ads everywhere
22:49 πŸ”— aggro Donations, Philanthropy, grants, foundations
22:49 πŸ”— aggro download-button-roulette ; which one is the REAL one?
22:50 πŸ”— godane i was also thinking when dvd-like disks that have 5 TB+ of data
22:50 πŸ”— godane and are like the M-DISC i have heard about
22:51 πŸ”— godane if there tech works
22:51 πŸ”— aggro 5TB discs and American ISPs will still only have .5Mbps uploads.
22:52 πŸ”— chronomex yep
22:52 πŸ”— BlueMax you think that's bad, think about poor Australia
22:53 πŸ”— aggro I see a business opportunity for internet connections that don't completely suck! But... how are you going to get access to the fiber? Oh wait...
22:55 πŸ”— chronomex aggro: speakeasy went down that road
22:58 πŸ”— aggro Looks like they're now "MegaPath" and focused on selling to businesses.
23:00 πŸ”— ersi 3TB mechanical hard drives > discs
23:00 πŸ”— ersi it blows all the standard shit wars away, scratching and all that crap
23:34 πŸ”— underscor just run transatlantic fiber
23:34 πŸ”— underscor er
23:34 πŸ”— underscor transpacific
23:34 πŸ”— underscor It can't be THAT expensive, amirite? ;D
23:36 πŸ”— underscor giganews is hiring a network engineer :o
23:36 πŸ”— underscor that'd be a fun job
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