#archiveteam 2012-04-22,Sun

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00:07 🔗 hot-girle hi
00:07 🔗 hot-girle my clit http://iiiii.in/8U7sW
00:07 🔗 hot-girle ops sory
00:07 🔗 mistym We cannot archive that.
00:12 🔗 balrog_ LOL
00:16 🔗 shaqfu What a nightmare; I realized I was using an old version of wget w/o warc support, so okay, I'll update
00:16 🔗 shaqfu Except the OS on my ZFS box points at a dead repo, and tweaking source for it is a nightmare :(
00:17 🔗 shaqfu So I'm going to have to grab parodius via my laptop, which will dump everything over NFS to ZFS, and hopefully not set my router on fire
00:20 🔗 Wyatt|Wor shaqfu: Could just use the get-wget-warc script we've got in...err, I think everything at this point, no?
00:20 🔗 shaqfu There's a script? I was looking at the wiki page about compiling the updated version of wget
00:20 🔗 mistym Is wget-warc's warc support different from the warc support in the official bzr repo? I remember there was a separate fork at one point.
00:21 🔗 Wyatt|Wor shaqfu: https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/mobileme-grab/blob/master/get-wget-warc.sh
00:22 🔗 shaqfu Wyatt|Wor: I don't think that'll work; the system's missing a lot of dependencies
00:23 🔗 shaqfu I'll give it a shot, though
00:24 🔗 shaqfu It's Nexenta from back from when Nexenta was still a free OS
00:25 🔗 shaqfu I did get it running on this laptop; worst case I'll craft the command and restart
00:26 🔗 shaqfu That worked...I feel as if I should discover religion
00:26 🔗 Wyatt|Wor Eh, wget doesn't have many deps. As long as you have a toolchain and some fairly universal libs, you're all right.
00:27 🔗 Wyatt|Wor Yeah, it's dependencies on my system are openssl and gettext
00:27 🔗 shaqfu Wyatt|Wor: It kept bothering me on this laptop about dps
00:27 🔗 shaqfu Deps*
00:27 🔗 shaqfu And it refused to use either TLS or SSL, so I compiled with those out
00:28 🔗 shaqfu Even though I had both set up..?
00:28 🔗 Wyatt|Wor No idea. I'm inclined to blame Solaris-isms or something.
00:29 🔗 shaqfu Wyatt|Wor: It was being difficult on Ubuntu
00:30 🔗 Wyatt|Wor Oh, that's even worse, in my experience. :/ Coaxing dpkg into installing the headers you need to build things can be taxing.
00:31 🔗 shaqfu No kidding
00:31 🔗 shaqfu You know things are bad when the odd deprecated OS is the *easy* one to install to
00:32 🔗 Wyatt|Wor You'd probably like Gentoo or any BSD. ;)
00:33 🔗 shaqfu I used Gentoo for a long while, but having to tweak for absolutely everything got tiring
00:34 🔗 Wyatt|Wor Ah, well every user has different needs of their hardware and software.
00:48 🔗 Wyatt|Wor Hmm, MeMac user laura.sauter had a wget going for a week straight that never went anywhere. Just killed it, but it's an odd one.
01:34 🔗 shaqfu Damn; blacklisted from parodius's sites
01:38 🔗 LordNlptp shaqfu: why not ask memblers about it? iirc he runs parodius
01:39 🔗 shaqfu LordNlptp: I figured that'd be the next step
01:40 🔗 LordNlptp he's not on right now but ask kevtris in #nesdev, since they're good friends and have outside-of-irc contact
01:40 🔗 shaqfu Thanks
01:43 🔗 shaqfu Does memblers frequent that channel?
02:38 🔗 Coderjoe I just love it when the client gets wedged in the middle of a reconnect attempt
02:39 🔗 Coderjoe hmm
03:32 🔗 no2penci1 There was a post to Twitter for #discferret, is that no longer a project?
03:34 🔗 chronomex it is a project
03:34 🔗 chronomex #discferret is on freenode
03:34 🔗 no2penci1 oh ... freeenode
03:34 🔗 no2penci1 my bad, thank you.
03:35 🔗 balrog_ chronomex: can a few of us go to #discferret here and make a topic saying "go to freenode"?
03:35 🔗 no2penci1 why the split on networks?
03:35 🔗 chronomex balrog_: I don't see why not
03:35 🔗 chronomex no2penci1: discferret is not an archiveteam project
03:35 🔗 no2penci1 thank you.
03:35 🔗 balrog_ it's a hardware project
03:35 🔗 balrog_ it's more general
03:35 🔗 balrog_ (I'm part of the core team, I guess ;) )
03:36 🔗 balrog_ though decoding software ... argh
03:36 🔗 balrog_ no2penci1: you're interested? :)
03:36 🔗 no2penci1 I have no idea, just now got on freenode, just now visiting discferret.com
03:37 🔗 no2penci1 assuming I don't miss any more important details, Im going to read for a bit :)
03:37 🔗 balrog_ feel free :)
03:38 🔗 no2penci1 oh wow, MFM & RLL?
03:38 🔗 no2penci1 I have a friend that will be pleased by this
03:38 🔗 Coderjoe and GRC
03:38 🔗 balrog_ we need help writing decoders though :)
03:38 🔗 balrog_ GCR*
03:38 🔗 Coderjoe right
03:38 🔗 balrog_ RLL is a dog :p
03:38 🔗 Coderjoe tired
03:38 🔗 balrog_ but yeah, the capability for hard drive dumping is there
03:39 🔗 balrog_ philpem had it working with his seagate MFM drive (or was it RLL?)
03:40 🔗 no2penci1 I would love to help out, but I will be honest, I don't think my coding skills are quite up to chops at this level
03:40 🔗 balrog_ are you able to code at all? :)
03:40 🔗 balrog_ the tricky parts mainly include the data separator and filtering
03:40 🔗 balrog_ decoding the actual formats is as much reverse engineering as it is coding
03:40 🔗 no2penci1 yeah, & as well I can open up a topic on Dream In Code, maybe I can supply someone that can do more than I can
03:40 🔗 balrog_ ooh awesome ;)
03:41 🔗 balrog_ maybe talk to philpem about that first
03:41 🔗 balrog_ he's in the UK so he's asleep now :p
03:41 🔗 balrog_ I did see you retweet btw, thanks for that!
03:41 🔗 balrog_ also if you want proto hardware ... phil is taking preorders
03:41 🔗 balrog_ email him /now/
03:41 🔗 balrog_ release hardware will be different, mainly faster and better
03:42 🔗 no2penci1 if he wants to post something, I would just copy & paste anything from the site, I would suggest "Share Your Project" http://www.dreamincode.net/forums/forum/97-share-your-project/
03:43 🔗 balrog_ sure
03:43 🔗 balrog_ we'll see, we currently have a bunch of interested people though ;)
03:43 🔗 balrog_ would you be interested in proto hardware?
03:43 🔗 balrog_ main issue is that it's not all that fast
03:43 🔗 balrog_ as SketchCow can attest
03:43 🔗 balrog_ btw, the current price is 150 GBP shipped to anywhere, that's with cables but no power supply
03:44 🔗 no2penci1 I would be more interested in assisting with code
03:44 🔗 no2penci1 at the current time
03:44 🔗 balrog_ :)
03:44 🔗 balrog_ that's fine.
03:44 🔗 no2penci1 Is there a git-hub proejct or something that I can look over?
03:44 🔗 balrog_ there's hg.discferret.com
03:44 🔗 balrog_ note that Merlin is gonna undergo a major rewrite
03:44 🔗 balrog_ the idea is to make a dumping, decoding, and analysis suite
03:44 🔗 no2penci1 oh, & is the code aimed for dos/Windows/Linux?
03:44 🔗 balrog_ windows/mac/linux
03:44 🔗 no2penci1 What's the ideal final product?
03:44 🔗 no2penci1 ok
03:45 🔗 balrog_ two products
03:45 🔗 balrog_ a command line dumper and basic decoder
03:45 🔗 balrog_ and a graphical dumper/decoder/analyzer
03:45 🔗 balrog_ command line would be useful for automation
03:45 🔗 no2penci1 dumper, at all like dd for linux?
03:45 🔗 balrog_ ./magpie --verbose --drive pc35a -c50 --multi 5 -o ./__disks/Amiga/20120223/StreetCat.D2.50.5mr.teac-01.dfi
03:45 🔗 no2penci1 where it just grabs bit for bit, as long as it can read it, it writes it
03:46 🔗 balrog_ no, it dumps the flux transitions to a file
03:46 🔗 balrog_ just grabs whatever comes in
03:46 🔗 balrog_ what you're talking about is a dumper + decoder
03:46 🔗 balrog_ we want to extend the dumper to have basic decode+verify.
03:48 🔗 underscor closure: ping
03:48 🔗 balrog_ no2penci1: do you understand the distinction?
03:48 🔗 balrog_ :)
03:49 🔗 closure underscor: yo
03:49 🔗 underscor just some thoughts for you...
03:49 🔗 underscor it would be fantabulous if you could specify arbitrary headers to use when getting from a web backend
03:49 🔗 underscor but I don't know how feasible that is to implement
03:49 🔗 closure hmm, interesting
03:50 🔗 closure that'd include http basic auth wouldn't it?
03:50 🔗 underscor (talking about using it internally at IA, but we need to send cookies to access files)
03:50 🔗 closure er, maybe that goes in the url, I can't remember
03:50 🔗 underscor yeah, iirc
03:50 🔗 closure ah, cookies
03:50 🔗 closure well, it's very doable. just a bit of bookkeeping involved to keep the headers for the urls straight
03:51 🔗 underscor Well, they'd be different at each get time
03:51 🔗 underscor (at least, in our scenario)
03:51 🔗 underscor since login cookies only last 24h
03:51 🔗 closure ooh
03:51 🔗 closure ugh
03:51 🔗 underscor so it'd just be a straight arg-pass to wget, I think
03:51 🔗 closure so it'd need to read from a file in this scenario
03:52 🔗 underscor no, just something like "git annex get --add-header="thing: otherthing" file/name.txt"
03:52 🔗 underscor (at least, that I envision :))
03:52 🔗 closure well, but it can't store it if it's gonna change leter
03:53 🔗 underscor right
03:53 🔗 no2penci1 balrog_: this is going to be way over my head, but I'll try to get some people pointed your way that would be able to help
03:53 🔗 closure sounds more like you want --headers-from="get-ia-cookie |"
03:53 🔗 underscor I just meant for that *specific* wget/get session
03:53 🔗 balrog_ no2penci1: feel free to hang around, it's not as complicated as it may sound
03:54 🔗 underscor git-annex doesn't need to keep the state/args at all
03:54 🔗 underscor s/keep/store/
03:54 🔗 no2penci1 I'll be around, I've helped with a few projects for archive team
03:54 🔗 closure ah, I get you
03:54 🔗 no2penci1 that's why I was excited to see the Tweet from SketchCow, I thought there was a new project
03:54 🔗 underscor anyway, just food for thought. :)
03:56 🔗 closure ok.. you can already do: git annex get -c annex-web-options="--add-header=blah"
03:56 🔗 underscor oho!
03:56 🔗 underscor that's great!
03:56 🔗 closure assuming wget understands that
03:56 🔗 closure which I don't see on its man page
03:56 🔗 underscor it's --header="foo:bar"
03:57 🔗 closure anyway, this would also let you put the setting in .git/config and refresh it etc
03:57 🔗 underscor cool
03:57 🔗 closure only 1 problem: addurl does not use this
03:57 🔗 closure because it doesn't use wget
03:57 🔗 underscor damn
03:57 🔗 underscor oh, right
03:57 🔗 balrog_ no2penci1: it's loosely affiliated
03:57 🔗 balrog_ it's an important project though
03:57 🔗 balrog_ at least IMHO it is
03:57 🔗 balrog_ ;)
03:58 🔗 closure so, I'm thinking annex-web-headers=blah and I'll plumb it through
03:58 🔗 no2penci1 I don't disagree, that's why I want to be able to help in any capacity that I can.
04:00 🔗 underscor closure: great!
04:00 🔗 closure underscor: I'll toss that in tomorrow, maybe also a annex-web-headers-command option, so if you have some program that outputs the current cookie, you can just set and forget
04:00 🔗 underscor <3
04:00 🔗 closure anything else?
04:01 🔗 closure glad to hear it's potentially being useful at the IA
04:01 🔗 underscor Not at the moment
04:01 🔗 underscor As always, you're fantastic!
04:01 🔗 closure I certianly run it *against* the IA enough :)
04:01 🔗 underscor Yeah, we have to ship like 70 harddrives of books for a project
04:01 🔗 underscor so we're thinking about using git-annex so each drive knows about all the other drives' contents
04:01 🔗 underscor and can also fetch from web if desired
04:02 🔗 closure if this ships, drop a line in http://git-annex.branchable.com/forum/tell_us_how_you__39__re_using_git-annex/
04:03 🔗 balrog_ does git-annex preserve OS X metadata?
04:03 🔗 balrog_ resource forks, types and creators, etc
04:05 🔗 closure only if you can somehow check that stuff in too.
04:05 🔗 closure (I last used a Mac in ... 1995?)
04:05 🔗 closure so, a bit out of date there :)
04:06 🔗 underscor I don't think you can see the resource forks IN osx itself
04:06 🔗 underscor I know you can on other OSes, which is really annoying >:I
04:07 🔗 closure shrug, when I see them I just check them in :)
04:07 🔗 closure I'll bet there's a way to dump the resource fork to a file in OSX
04:08 🔗 balrog_ you could use appledouble
04:08 🔗 closure underscor, are you interning at IA again?
04:09 🔗 underscor I never stopped, really
04:09 🔗 underscor hahaha
04:09 🔗 underscor but officially, no
04:09 🔗 Coderjoe underscor: how do you do a mass item edit? like, say, to change the collection on a bunch of items at once.
04:10 🔗 underscor Coderjoe: metamgr.php
04:10 🔗 underscor but I don't know if you have access to that
04:10 🔗 underscor archive.org/metamgr.,php
04:10 🔗 underscor archive.org/metamgr.php
04:10 🔗 Coderjoe yeah, I'm looking at it right now
04:10 🔗 Coderjoe (i'm a collection admin)
04:10 🔗 underscor check the items you want to modify
04:11 🔗 underscor then QA
04:11 🔗 underscor then "collection=blah" under modify xml
04:12 🔗 Coderjoe cool
04:12 🔗 Coderjoe thanks
04:12 🔗 Coderjoe (still working on the item selection query atm)
04:18 🔗 Coderjoe i see a qa report
05:04 🔗 Coderjoe mmm
05:05 🔗 Coderjoe files = sorted(os.listdir("foo"), key=lambda fn: os.path.getsize(os.path.join("foo", fn)))
05:15 🔗 closure underscor: enjoy http://source.git-annex.branchable.com/?p=source.git;a=commitdiff;h=84ac8c58db30637db4fb88566530b6293f12dab0
09:43 🔗 godane do you guys have superplay magazine?
09:43 🔗 godane Super Play was a UK based SNES (Super Nintendo Entertainment System) magazine which ran from November 1992 to September 1996.
09:51 🔗 lclhst lol nice
09:57 🔗 godane i just found donkey kong country pre release promotion video tape from uk
09:57 🔗 lclhst haha
09:57 🔗 lclhst I have that here too :)
09:57 🔗 lclhst looking at it right now
09:58 🔗 lclhst Enter the jungle...nov.21
10:04 🔗 no2penci1 I had one of those, don't knwo about from the uk
10:04 🔗 no2penci1 I had donkey kong country & SFII promotional videos
10:04 🔗 lclhst uhm
10:04 🔗 lclhst yeah
10:04 🔗 lclhst I think my VHS is from USA :o
10:05 🔗 no2penci1 At the end they were playing killer instinct
10:05 🔗 no2penci1 & like "NOOO!!!" when the camera came in
10:05 🔗 lclhst lol
10:08 🔗 lclhst I also have promo tapes of
10:09 🔗 lclhst Rayman 2 The Great Escape for N64
10:09 🔗 lclhst Aladdin for SNES
10:09 🔗 lclhst Banjo Kazooie for N64
10:09 🔗 lclhst Diddy Kong Racing for N64
10:09 🔗 lclhst HOT NEWZ for N64
10:09 🔗 lclhst and some other one
10:10 🔗 no2penci1 neat
10:10 🔗 no2penci1 how did you get them?
10:10 🔗 no2penci1 I don't remember doing anythign special, they just arrived in the mail
10:10 🔗 lclhst eBay lol
10:10 🔗 no2penci1 oh
10:10 🔗 lclhst I'm not the original owner
10:10 🔗 no2penci1 I'm sure I filled out some form or something to get them.
10:10 🔗 no2penci1 oh well
10:11 🔗 lclhst you got 'em free?
10:11 🔗 no2penci1 yeah
10:11 🔗 no2penci1 I got them when they were promotional
10:11 🔗 no2penci1 lol
10:11 🔗 lclhst that's cool
10:11 🔗 no2penci1 I've long since sold them
10:11 🔗 no2penci1 in 2004 I believe
10:11 🔗 lclhst why?
10:11 🔗 no2penci1 dead weight
10:11 🔗 no2penci1 I sold them at a computer show
10:11 🔗 no2penci1 I had a "NINTENDO" sign from a vs 10 machine
10:12 🔗 no2penci1 I was drivign down the road, & someone had it to be picke dup by the garbage
10:12 🔗 no2penci1 so I pulled over, punched the sign off
10:12 🔗 no2penci1 lol
10:12 🔗 no2penci1 the cabinet was empty :(
10:13 🔗 lclhst lol
10:13 🔗 lclhst :)
10:13 🔗 lclhst a year ago I got a Nintendo Gameboy cabinet :
10:13 🔗 no2penci1 lol, neat!
10:14 🔗 no2penci1 you know about the nes to famicom converters in gyromite games?
10:14 🔗 lclhst huh? no?
10:14 🔗 no2penci1 ok, here is what you do
10:15 🔗 no2penci1 most often I find these in gyromite
10:15 🔗 no2penci1 but look for nes carts with the 'game style'
10:15 🔗 no2penci1 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f3/P_NES.PNG/250px-P_NES.PNG
10:15 🔗 no2penci1 where it has the logo in the bottom left
10:15 🔗 lclhst oh
10:15 🔗 no2penci1 like a gun for gun games, the explosion for adventure games
10:15 🔗 lclhst yeah blackbox/silverbox games
10:15 🔗 no2penci1 look at the back
10:15 🔗 no2penci1 & they'll have five philips screws
10:16 🔗 lclhst yeah
10:16 🔗 no2penci1 so it was pre-security bits
10:16 🔗 no2penci1 & then feel how heavy they are
10:16 🔗 lclhst the earliest releases
10:16 🔗 no2penci1 if you find one slightly heavier
10:16 🔗 no2penci1 it'll have a famicom converter in it
10:16 🔗 no2penci1 they were under produced for the christmas of '85
10:16 🔗 no2penci1 so they were putting us chips on famicom pcbs
10:16 🔗 no2penci1 & shipping them over that way
10:17 🔗 no2penci1 I found 2 at flee-markets & so on
10:17 🔗 no2penci1 & bought some famicom games on ebay, like Transformers
10:17 🔗 no2penci1 & play them in a us console
10:17 🔗 lclhst haha
10:17 🔗 lclhst cool
10:18 🔗 lclhst kinda lame of Nintendo though
10:18 🔗 no2penci1 lol
10:18 🔗 lclhst but hey, it works
10:18 🔗 no2penci1 after my 'in-depth' description
10:18 🔗 no2penci1 www.youtube.com/watch?v=7drnY7E0bAk
10:18 🔗 no2penci1 I should have just looked first
10:18 🔗 lclhst I guess.. or would you notice anything in the game?
10:18 🔗 no2penci1 oh wow
10:19 🔗 no2penci1 those carts are $50 on ebay
10:19 🔗 no2penci1 http://www.ebay.com/itm/GYROMITE-5-SCREWS-CONVERTER-Nintendo-Nes-game-/120474490678?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item1c0cd6d736
10:25 🔗 lclhst haha
10:25 🔗 lclhst yeah people think they have gold ;D
15:06 🔗 oltreric !list
15:06 🔗 mistym Error: File not found
15:40 🔗 underscor mistym: hahaha
15:41 🔗 underscor closure: <3
16:18 🔗 dashcloud so underscor- will you be at defcon then?
16:18 🔗 underscor probably
16:18 🔗 underscor not 100% finalized, but it's nearly there

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