[00:07] <hot-girle> hi
[00:07] <hot-girle> my clit http://iiiii.in/8U7sW
[00:07] <hot-girle> ops sory
[00:07] <mistym> We cannot archive that.
[00:12] <balrog_> LOL
[00:16] <shaqfu> What a nightmare; I realized I was using an old version of wget w/o warc support, so okay, I'll update
[00:16] <shaqfu> Except the OS on my ZFS box points at a dead repo, and tweaking source for it is a nightmare :(
[00:17] <shaqfu> So I'm going to have to grab parodius via my laptop, which will dump everything over NFS to ZFS, and hopefully not set my router on fire
[00:20] <Wyatt|Wor> shaqfu: Could just use the get-wget-warc script we've got in...err, I think everything at this point, no?
[00:20] <shaqfu> There's a script? I was looking at the wiki page about compiling the updated version of wget
[00:20] <mistym> Is wget-warc's warc support different from the warc support in the official bzr repo? I remember there was a separate fork at one point.
[00:21] <Wyatt|Wor> shaqfu: https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/mobileme-grab/blob/master/get-wget-warc.sh
[00:22] <shaqfu> Wyatt|Wor: I don't think that'll work; the system's missing a lot of dependencies
[00:23] <shaqfu> I'll give it a shot, though
[00:24] <shaqfu> It's Nexenta from back from when Nexenta was still a free OS
[00:25] <shaqfu> I did get it running on this laptop; worst case I'll craft the command and restart
[00:26] <shaqfu> That worked...I feel as if I should discover religion
[00:26] <Wyatt|Wor> Eh, wget doesn't have many deps. As long as you have a toolchain and some fairly universal libs, you're all right.
[00:27] <Wyatt|Wor> Yeah, it's dependencies on my system are openssl and gettext
[00:27] <shaqfu> Wyatt|Wor: It kept bothering me on this laptop about dps
[00:27] <shaqfu> Deps*
[00:27] <shaqfu> And it refused to use either TLS or SSL, so I compiled with those out
[00:28] <shaqfu> Even though I had both set up..?
[00:28] <Wyatt|Wor> No idea.  I'm inclined to blame Solaris-isms or something.
[00:29] <shaqfu> Wyatt|Wor: It was being difficult on Ubuntu
[00:30] <Wyatt|Wor> Oh, that's even worse, in my experience. :/  Coaxing dpkg into installing the headers you need to build things can be taxing.
[00:31] <shaqfu> No kidding
[00:31] <shaqfu> You know things are bad when the odd deprecated OS is the *easy* one to install to
[00:32] <Wyatt|Wor> You'd probably like Gentoo or any BSD. ;)
[00:33] <shaqfu> I used Gentoo for a long while, but having to tweak for absolutely everything got tiring
[00:34] <Wyatt|Wor> Ah, well every user has different needs of their hardware and software.
[00:48] <Wyatt|Wor> Hmm, MeMac user laura.sauter had a wget going for a week straight that never went anywhere. Just killed it, but it's an odd one.
[01:34] <shaqfu> Damn; blacklisted from parodius's sites
[01:38] <LordNlptp> shaqfu: why not ask memblers about it? iirc he runs parodius
[01:39] <shaqfu> LordNlptp: I figured that'd be the next step
[01:40] <LordNlptp> he's not on right now but ask kevtris in #nesdev, since they're good friends and have outside-of-irc contact
[01:40] <shaqfu> Thanks
[01:43] <shaqfu> Does memblers frequent that channel?
[02:38] <Coderjoe> I just love it when the client gets wedged in the middle of a reconnect attempt
[02:39] <Coderjoe> hmm
[03:32] <no2penci1> There was a post to Twitter for #discferret, is that no longer a project?
[03:34] <chronomex> it is a project
[03:34] <chronomex> #discferret is on freenode
[03:34] <no2penci1> oh ... freeenode
[03:34] <no2penci1> my bad, thank you.
[03:35] <balrog_> chronomex: can a few of us go to #discferret here and make a topic saying "go to freenode"?
[03:35] <no2penci1> why the split on networks?
[03:35] <chronomex> balrog_: I don't see why not
[03:35] <chronomex> no2penci1: discferret is not an archiveteam project
[03:35] <no2penci1> thank you.
[03:35] <balrog_> it's a hardware project
[03:35] <balrog_> it's more general
[03:35] <balrog_> (I'm part of the core team, I guess ;) )
[03:36] <balrog_> though decoding software ... argh
[03:36] <balrog_> no2penci1: you're interested? :)
[03:36] <no2penci1> I have no idea, just now got on freenode, just now visiting discferret.com
[03:37] <no2penci1> assuming I don't miss any more important details, Im going to read for a bit :)
[03:37] <balrog_> feel free :)
[03:38] <no2penci1> oh wow, MFM & RLL?
[03:38] <no2penci1> I have a friend that will be pleased by this
[03:38] <Coderjoe> and GRC
[03:38] <balrog_> we need help writing decoders though :)
[03:38] <balrog_> GCR*
[03:38] <Coderjoe> right
[03:38] <balrog_> RLL is a dog :p
[03:38] <Coderjoe> tired
[03:38] <balrog_> but yeah, the capability for hard drive dumping is there
[03:39] <balrog_> philpem had it working with his seagate MFM drive (or was it RLL?)
[03:40] <no2penci1> I would love to help out, but I will be honest, I don't think my coding skills are quite up to chops at this level
[03:40] <balrog_> are you able to code at all? :)
[03:40] <balrog_> the tricky parts mainly include the data separator and filtering
[03:40] <balrog_> decoding the actual formats is as much reverse engineering as it is coding
[03:40] <no2penci1> yeah, & as well I can open up a topic on Dream In Code, maybe I can supply someone that can do more than I can
[03:40] <balrog_> ooh awesome ;)
[03:41] <balrog_> maybe talk to philpem about that first
[03:41] <balrog_> he's in the UK so he's asleep now :p
[03:41] <balrog_> I did see you retweet btw, thanks for that!
[03:41] <balrog_> also if you want proto hardware ... phil is taking preorders
[03:41] <balrog_> email him /now/
[03:41] <balrog_> release hardware will be different, mainly faster and better
[03:42] <no2penci1> if he wants to post something, I would just copy & paste anything from the site, I would suggest "Share Your Project" http://www.dreamincode.net/forums/forum/97-share-your-project/
[03:43] <balrog_> sure
[03:43] <balrog_> we'll see, we currently have a bunch of interested people though ;)
[03:43] <balrog_> would you be interested in proto hardware?
[03:43] <balrog_> main issue is that it's not all that fast
[03:43] <balrog_> as SketchCow can attest
[03:43] <balrog_> btw, the current price is 150 GBP shipped to anywhere, that's with cables but no power supply
[03:44] <no2penci1> I would be more interested in assisting with code
[03:44] <no2penci1> at the current time
[03:44] <balrog_> :)
[03:44] <balrog_> that's fine.
[03:44] <no2penci1> Is there a git-hub proejct or something that I can look over?
[03:44] <balrog_> there's hg.discferret.com
[03:44] <balrog_> note that Merlin is gonna undergo a major rewrite
[03:44] <balrog_> the idea is to make a dumping, decoding, and analysis suite
[03:44] <no2penci1> oh, & is the code aimed for dos/Windows/Linux?
[03:44] <balrog_> windows/mac/linux
[03:44] <no2penci1> What's the ideal final product?
[03:44] <no2penci1> ok
[03:45] <balrog_> two products
[03:45] <balrog_> a command line dumper and basic decoder
[03:45] <balrog_> and a graphical dumper/decoder/analyzer
[03:45] <balrog_> command line would be useful for automation
[03:45] <no2penci1> dumper, at all like dd for linux?
[03:45] <balrog_> ./magpie --verbose --drive pc35a -c50 --multi 5 -o ./__disks/Amiga/20120223/StreetCat.D2.50.5mr.teac-01.dfi
[03:45] <no2penci1> where it just grabs bit for bit, as long as it can read it, it writes it
[03:46] <balrog_> no, it dumps the flux transitions to a file
[03:46] <balrog_> just grabs whatever comes in
[03:46] <balrog_> what you're talking about is a dumper + decoder
[03:46] <balrog_> we want to extend the dumper to have basic decode+verify.
[03:48] <underscor> closure: ping
[03:48] <balrog_> no2penci1: do you understand the distinction?
[03:48] <balrog_> :)
[03:49] <closure> underscor: yo
[03:49] <underscor> just some thoughts for you...
[03:49] <underscor> it would be fantabulous if you could specify arbitrary headers to use when getting from a web backend
[03:49] <underscor> but I don't know how feasible that is to implement
[03:49] <closure> hmm, interesting
[03:50] <closure> that'd include http basic auth wouldn't it?
[03:50] <underscor> (talking about using it internally at IA, but we need to send cookies to access files)
[03:50] <closure> er, maybe that goes in the url, I can't remember
[03:50] <underscor> yeah, iirc
[03:50] <closure> ah, cookies
[03:50] <closure> well, it's very doable. just a bit of bookkeeping involved to keep the headers for the urls straight
[03:51] <underscor> Well, they'd be different at each get time
[03:51] <underscor> (at least, in our scenario)
[03:51] <underscor> since login cookies only last 24h
[03:51] <closure> ooh
[03:51] <closure> ugh
[03:51] <underscor> so it'd just be a straight arg-pass to wget, I think
[03:51] <closure> so it'd need to read from a file in this scenario
[03:52] <underscor> no, just something like "git annex get --add-header="thing: otherthing" file/name.txt"
[03:52] <underscor> (at least, that I envision :))
[03:52] <closure> well, but it can't store it if it's gonna change leter
[03:53] <underscor> right
[03:53] <no2penci1> balrog_: this is going to be way over my head, but I'll try to get some people pointed your way that would be able to help
[03:53] <closure> sounds more like you want --headers-from="get-ia-cookie |"
[03:53] <underscor> I just meant for that *specific* wget/get session
[03:53] <balrog_> no2penci1: feel free to hang around, it's not as complicated as it may sound
[03:54] <underscor> git-annex doesn't need to keep the state/args at all
[03:54] <underscor> s/keep/store/
[03:54] <no2penci1> I'll be  around, I've helped with a few projects for archive team
[03:54] <closure> ah, I get you
[03:54] <no2penci1> that's why I was excited to see the Tweet from SketchCow, I thought there was a new project
[03:54] <underscor> anyway, just food for thought. :)
[03:56] <closure> ok.. you can already do: git annex get -c annex-web-options="--add-header=blah"
[03:56] <underscor> oho!
[03:56] <underscor> that's great!
[03:56] <closure> assuming wget understands that
[03:56] <closure> which I don't see on its man page
[03:56] <underscor> it's --header="foo:bar"
[03:57] <closure> anyway, this would also let you put the setting in .git/config and refresh it etc
[03:57] <underscor> cool
[03:57] <closure> only 1 problem: addurl does not use this
[03:57] <closure> because it doesn't use wget
[03:57] <underscor> damn
[03:57] <underscor> oh, right
[03:57] <balrog_> no2penci1: it's loosely affiliated
[03:57] <balrog_> it's an important project though
[03:57] <balrog_> at least IMHO it is
[03:57] <balrog_> ;)
[03:58] <closure> so, I'm thinking annex-web-headers=blah and I'll plumb it through
[03:58] <no2penci1> I don't disagree, that's why I want to be able to help in any capacity that I can.
[04:00] <underscor> closure: great!
[04:00] <closure> underscor: I'll toss that in tomorrow, maybe also a annex-web-headers-command option, so if you have some program that outputs the current cookie, you can just set and forget
[04:00] <underscor> <3
[04:00] <closure> anything else?
[04:01] <closure> glad to hear it's potentially being useful at the IA
[04:01] <underscor> Not at the moment
[04:01] <underscor> As always, you're fantastic!
[04:01] <closure> I certianly run it *against* the IA enough :)
[04:01] <underscor> Yeah, we have to ship like 70 harddrives of books for a project
[04:01] <underscor> so we're thinking about using git-annex so each drive knows about all the other drives' contents
[04:01] <underscor> and can also fetch from web if desired
[04:02] <closure> if this ships, drop a line in http://git-annex.branchable.com/forum/tell_us_how_you__39__re_using_git-annex/
[04:03] <balrog_> does git-annex preserve OS X metadata?
[04:03] <balrog_> resource forks, types and creators, etc
[04:05] <closure> only if you can somehow check that stuff in too.
[04:05] <closure> (I last used a Mac in ... 1995?)
[04:05] <closure> so, a bit out of date there :)
[04:06] <underscor> I don't think you can see the resource forks IN osx itself
[04:06] <underscor> I know you can on other OSes, which is really annoying >:I
[04:07] <closure> shrug, when I see them I just check them in :)
[04:07] <closure> I'll bet there's a way to dump the resource fork to a file in OSX
[04:08] <balrog_> you could use appledouble
[04:08] <closure> underscor, are you interning at IA again?
[04:09] <underscor> I never stopped, really
[04:09] <underscor> hahaha
[04:09] <underscor> but officially, no
[04:09] <Coderjoe> underscor: how do you do a mass item edit? like, say, to change the collection on a bunch of items at once.
[04:10] <underscor> Coderjoe: metamgr.php
[04:10] <underscor> but I don't know if you have access to that
[04:10] <underscor> archive.org/metamgr.,php
[04:10] <underscor> archive.org/metamgr.php
[04:10] <Coderjoe> yeah, I'm looking at it right now
[04:10] <Coderjoe> (i'm a collection admin)
[04:10] <underscor> check the items you want to modify
[04:11] <underscor> then QA
[04:11] <underscor> then "collection=blah" under modify xml
[04:12] <Coderjoe> cool
[04:12] <Coderjoe> thanks
[04:12] <Coderjoe> (still working on the item selection query atm)
[04:18] <Coderjoe> i see a qa report
[05:04] <Coderjoe> mmm
[05:05] <Coderjoe> files = sorted(os.listdir("foo"), key=lambda fn: os.path.getsize(os.path.join("foo", fn)))
[05:15] <closure> underscor: enjoy http://source.git-annex.branchable.com/?p=source.git;a=commitdiff;h=84ac8c58db30637db4fb88566530b6293f12dab0
[09:43] <godane> do you guys have superplay magazine?
[09:43] <godane> Super Play was a UK based SNES (Super Nintendo Entertainment System) magazine which ran from November 1992 to September 1996.
[09:51] <lclhst> lol nice
[09:57] <godane> i just found donkey kong country pre release promotion video tape from uk
[09:57] <lclhst> haha
[09:57] <lclhst> I have that here too :)
[09:57] <lclhst> looking at it right now
[09:58] <lclhst> Enter the jungle...nov.21
[10:04] <no2penci1> I had one of those, don't knwo about from the uk
[10:04] <no2penci1> I had donkey kong country & SFII promotional videos
[10:04] <lclhst> uhm
[10:04] <lclhst> yeah
[10:04] <lclhst> I think my VHS is from USA :o
[10:05] <no2penci1> At the end they were playing killer instinct
[10:05] <no2penci1> & like "NOOO!!!" when the camera came in
[10:05] <lclhst> lol
[10:08] <lclhst> I also have promo tapes of
[10:09] <lclhst> Rayman 2 The Great Escape for N64
[10:09] <lclhst> Aladdin for SNES
[10:09] <lclhst> Banjo Kazooie for N64
[10:09] <lclhst> Diddy Kong Racing for N64
[10:09] <lclhst> HOT NEWZ for N64
[10:09] <lclhst> and some other one
[10:10] <no2penci1> neat
[10:10] <no2penci1> how did you get them?
[10:10] <no2penci1> I don't remember doing anythign special, they just arrived in the mail
[10:10] <lclhst> eBay lol
[10:10] <no2penci1> oh
[10:10] <lclhst> I'm not the original owner
[10:10] <no2penci1> I'm sure I filled out some form or something to get them.
[10:10] <no2penci1> oh well
[10:11] <lclhst> you got 'em free?
[10:11] <no2penci1> yeah
[10:11] <no2penci1> I got them when they were promotional
[10:11] <no2penci1> lol
[10:11] <lclhst> that's cool
[10:11] <no2penci1> I've long since sold them
[10:11] <no2penci1> in 2004 I believe
[10:11] <lclhst> why?
[10:11] <no2penci1> dead weight
[10:11] <no2penci1> I sold them at a computer show
[10:11] <no2penci1> I had a "NINTENDO" sign from a vs 10 machine
[10:12] <no2penci1> I was drivign down the road, & someone had it to be picke dup by the garbage
[10:12] <no2penci1> so I pulled over, punched the sign off
[10:12] <no2penci1> lol
[10:12] <no2penci1> the cabinet was empty :(
[10:13] <lclhst> lol
[10:13] <lclhst> :)
[10:13] <lclhst> a year ago I got a Nintendo Gameboy cabinet :
[10:13] <no2penci1> lol, neat!
[10:14] <no2penci1> you know about the nes to famicom converters in gyromite games?
[10:14] <lclhst> huh? no?
[10:14] <no2penci1> ok, here is what you do
[10:15] <no2penci1> most often I find these in gyromite
[10:15] <no2penci1> but look for nes carts with the 'game style'
[10:15] <no2penci1> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f3/P_NES.PNG/250px-P_NES.PNG
[10:15] <no2penci1> where it has the logo in the bottom left
[10:15] <lclhst> oh
[10:15] <no2penci1> like a gun for gun games, the explosion for adventure games
[10:15] <lclhst> yeah blackbox/silverbox games
[10:15] <no2penci1> look at the back
[10:15] <no2penci1> & they'll have five philips screws
[10:16] <lclhst> yeah
[10:16] <no2penci1> so it was pre-security bits
[10:16] <no2penci1> & then feel how heavy they are
[10:16] <lclhst> the earliest releases
[10:16] <no2penci1> if you find one slightly heavier
[10:16] <no2penci1> it'll have a famicom converter in it
[10:16] <no2penci1> they were under produced for the christmas of '85
[10:16] <no2penci1> so they were putting us chips on famicom pcbs
[10:16] <no2penci1> & shipping them over that way
[10:17] <no2penci1> I found 2 at flee-markets & so on
[10:17] <no2penci1> & bought some famicom games on ebay, like Transformers
[10:17] <no2penci1> & play them in a us console
[10:17] <lclhst> haha
[10:17] <lclhst> cool
[10:18] <lclhst> kinda lame of Nintendo though
[10:18] <no2penci1> lol
[10:18] <lclhst> but hey, it works
[10:18] <no2penci1> after my 'in-depth' description
[10:18] <no2penci1> www.youtube.com/watch?v=7drnY7E0bAk
[10:18] <no2penci1> I should have just looked first
[10:18] <lclhst> I guess.. or would you notice anything in the game?
[10:18] <no2penci1> oh wow
[10:19] <no2penci1> those carts are $50 on ebay
[10:19] <no2penci1> http://www.ebay.com/itm/GYROMITE-5-SCREWS-CONVERTER-Nintendo-Nes-game-/120474490678?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item1c0cd6d736
[10:25] <lclhst> haha
[10:25] <lclhst> yeah people think they have gold ;D
[15:06] <oltreric> !list
[15:06] <mistym> Error: File not found
[15:40] <underscor> mistym: hahaha
[15:41] <underscor> closure: <3
[16:18] <dashcloud> so underscor- will you be at defcon then?
[16:18] <underscor> probably
[16:18] <underscor> not 100% finalized, but it's nearly there