#archiveteam 2012-04-24,Tue

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00:11 🔗 underscor http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/577873_3365666898721_1180607771_32611106_2125241513_n.jpg
02:07 🔗 underscor alard: did you say mobileme-s3 can run in the same dir now?
02:11 🔗 DragonDon Greetings all!
02:11 🔗 mistym Hi there, DragonDon!
02:12 🔗 DragonDon Hello again mistym :)
03:08 🔗 underscor <underscor> Dealing with some real life crap, decided to make this and put it on my wall
03:08 🔗 underscor <underscor> http://ompldr.org/vZGhvaA/life.pdf there's the pdf version
03:08 🔗 underscor <underscor> http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/318115_3751885364285_1490913794_33224331_2021268331_n.jpg
03:12 🔗 DragonDon Nice :)
03:13 🔗 mistym This is my preferred motivational poster: http://img0.etsystatic.com/il_fullxfull.233278800.jpg
03:14 🔗 SketchCow Mine is GET THE FUCK UP
03:15 🔗 DragonDon I kinda prefer http://demotivators.despair.com/demotivational/achievementdemotivator.jpg
03:17 🔗 mistym Hah.
03:17 🔗 underscor SketchCow: gooooood evening
04:24 🔗 SketchCow I've begun the final death march of data out of batcave into fortress.
04:24 🔗 SketchCow I have 5tb of data that's going over, no idea how long that'll take.
04:25 🔗 SketchCow Then I clean out the nooks and crannies (webpage, etc.)
04:25 🔗 SketchCow And then it's gone gone gone!
06:59 🔗 Coderjoe man...
06:59 🔗 Coderjoe SketchCow's pimpin
06:59 🔗 Coderjoe http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/533915_10150762196722170_500012169_9651196_1134786873_n.jpg
07:03 🔗 NovaKing wait... wait...
07:03 🔗 NovaKing there was CAKE?!
07:33 🔗 no2penci1 the cake was a lie
07:36 🔗 chronomex yum
07:43 🔗 alard underscor: Yes, if you have updated all the scripts (git pull) you can run more than one mobileme s3 instance in a directory. Set the DATA_DIR property to a unique id (without slashes), e.g. DATA_DIR=memac-1 ./seesaw-repeat-s3.sh etc.
07:50 🔗 alard SketchCow: When you expect to shut down batcave, could you give an advance warning? The mobileme-s3 clients that use it as a proxy take up to 10 hours to switch to a new upload target.
08:02 🔗 Coderjoe environment variable, not property
08:26 🔗 alard Coderjoe: Ah, yes, of course. It's still early.
13:32 🔗 SketchCow Let's see how much it's transferred over of the 5tb.
14:12 🔗 SketchCow Ach, just going to let it go.
14:13 🔗 SketchCow I promise you, alard, that when I decide it's about to get the heave, you get warning and we wait for off-transition
14:14 🔗 alard SketchCow: Great! (It's just a question of pushing the switch and waiting for the current uploads to finish.)
15:51 🔗 void_ have you seen http://code.google.com/p/warrick/ ?
15:55 🔗 blt how's that work, I wonder?
15:56 🔗 void_ http://code.google.com/p/warrick/wiki/About_Warrick
15:56 🔗 mistym_ Empty git repo, boo. Interesting idea though! I wonder what web archives it uses.
15:56 🔗 void_ i'm looking the code, a mess of perl (that just works)
15:57 🔗 void_ Warrick interacts with Memento TimeMaps to recover resources from archives
15:57 🔗 void_ http://api.wayback.archive.org/memento/ ...
15:59 🔗 DFJustin supposedly it grabs from google/yahoo/bing search caches too but it didn't seem to when I tried it
15:59 🔗 DFJustin maybe api has changed etc.
17:12 🔗 yipdw heh
17:12 🔗 yipdw "One of the jobs of the first-year computer science course [at Cambridge] was to break the students down; convince them they knew nothing. The tool we used to do this was functional programming."
17:52 🔗 SketchCow We're at 772gb of transferred batcave out of 5tb
18:00 🔗 Nemo_bis hm
18:21 🔗 Ymgve fucking Google
18:21 🔗 Ymgve "You liked our online storage prices? Well, too bad!"
18:26 🔗 SketchCow OK, back into the deep land of NYC again.
18:28 🔗 ersi SketchCow: Watch out for grues
19:16 🔗 yipdw http://cdn.connecteddigitalworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/CDW-The-Beeb-30-Event-032.jpg?76a6e8
19:16 🔗 yipdw whoa
20:13 🔗 underscor http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/04/24/breaking-private-company-does-indeed-plan-to-mine-asteroids-and-i-think-they-can-do-it/
21:43 🔗 mistym_ Can wget resume when using --warc-file=?
22:09 🔗 alard No.
22:26 🔗 Coderjoe Waiting to run41
22:26 🔗 Coderjoe wow
22:26 🔗 Coderjoe Running10
22:27 🔗 Coderjoe Waiting for admin7
22:32 🔗 chronomex Waiting for Godot2
22:43 🔗 Coderjoe haha
22:43 🔗 Coderjoe Amazing how gamifying something will likely get results
22:44 🔗 Coderjoe fandom conventions have long had a problem of trashed rooms after the con.
22:44 🔗 Coderjoe anime central's host hotel this year has a "Cleanest room contest"
22:45 🔗 Zebranky_ Please don't terrify me
22:45 🔗 chronomex Coderjoe: lol
22:45 🔗 Wyatt Oooh, ACen's hotel is awesome, too.
22:45 🔗 Zebranky I'm con chair of BronyCon ._.
22:45 🔗 Zebranky If you'd told me this a year ago, I would have asked for whatever you were smoking
22:45 🔗 Coderjoe three rooms will be selected by the housekeeping manager to get two nights complimentary room and tax. those checking out on sunday april 29 will be considered, no entry needed.
22:45 🔗 Wyatt My condolences
22:45 🔗 Coderjoe winners contacted by email
22:46 🔗 Zebranky Your condolences are much appreciated.
22:46 🔗 Coderjoe also, amazingly, the wifi at the hyatt is also free this year?
22:46 🔗 winr4r Zebranky: wat
22:47 🔗 Zebranky winr4r: wat wat?
22:47 🔗 jose hi there
22:47 🔗 winr4r Zebranky: did you become a brony in that time?
22:47 🔗 jose Can somebody help me with some doubt regarding the Geocities torrent?
22:47 🔗 winr4r jose: hello!
22:48 🔗 Zebranky May 29 of last year
22:49 🔗 jose anyone?
22:49 🔗 jose plz
22:49 🔗 Coderjoe what doubts?
22:49 🔗 Coderjoe (I don't have the torrent loaded, but I'll see what I can do)
22:50 🔗 jose well, I just downloaded all the parts for the es.geocities.com.7z file
22:50 🔗 jose for the Spanish geocities part
22:50 🔗 jose I managed to extract it well and ended up with a file called es.geocities.com
22:50 🔗 jose what am I supposed to do with that file type?
22:51 🔗 jose of course it doesn't run on Windows, and 7-zip says can't open it since it's not a compressed file
22:51 🔗 Coderjoe (a hint: rather than asking to ask a question, just ask the question. if someone that knows is around, they'll likely answer. there are also a lot of people that idle when they are away, so someone that might know might also not be here right now, so stick around after asking)
22:51 🔗 winr4r jose: have you tried running "file" on it to find out?
22:51 🔗 chronomex jose: rename it to es.geocities.com.tar, then open it again
22:51 🔗 winr4r if there's a windows port
22:51 🔗 winr4r or what chronomex said
22:52 🔗 jose I tried renaming it to tar
22:52 🔗 Coderjoe i would look at it the first part in a hex editor to see what it was, but then I am also weird and can recognize several file formats on sight. :-\
22:52 🔗 jose but didn't work
22:54 🔗 jose so aparently it has nothing to do with a tar file
22:54 🔗 Coderjoe do you have a hex viewer/editor around?
22:54 🔗 jose yeah
22:55 🔗 jose I'm currently taking a look with it
22:55 🔗 Coderjoe can you take a screenshot of the start of the file, or copy and paste the hex view to a pastebin or something?
22:55 🔗 Coderjoe just the first 256-512 should be enough. (hopefully)
22:55 🔗 jose sure
22:58 🔗 Coderjoe the dwarves have mined too deep...
22:58 🔗 jose I'm on it, hold on, the file is just too big to open it comfortably
23:03 🔗 jose http://pastebin.com/YpwpyvAi
23:03 🔗 jose here it is
23:03 🔗 jose let's hope I did it well
23:03 🔗 Coderjoe that is indeed a tar file
23:03 🔗 jose is it? so why is 7-zip complaining about it?
23:04 🔗 jose should I try with something else?
23:04 🔗 chronomex did you rename it to .tar ?
23:04 🔗 jose could it be corrupt, even when I found no issue at decompressing it from the .7z file?
23:04 🔗 Coderjoe you renamed it to es.geocities.com.tar ?
23:04 🔗 jose yes I tried it in first place
23:04 🔗 chronomex hmm.
23:04 🔗 chronomex are you using windows?
23:04 🔗 Coderjoe what is 7zips complaint?
23:05 🔗 jose yes, Windows 7 and 7-zip
23:06 🔗 jose it says it cannot open that file as a compressed file
23:06 🔗 shaqfu https://twitter.com/#!/ColumbiaCDRS/status/194857550380924929
23:06 🔗 shaqfu ?!?!?!?
23:07 🔗 winr4r shaqfu: what the fuck
23:07 🔗 winr4r jose: then 7-zip's shit is all retarded
23:07 🔗 winr4r jose: there's plenty of ports of the unix command-line tar, try those
23:07 🔗 jose I'll give a try and see if it works there
23:07 🔗 Coderjoe The Center for Digital Research and Scholarship @Columbia partners with researchers & scholars to share new knowledge. Leyla is tweeting.
23:08 🔗 Coderjoe 7-zip usually can handle tar files for me... though I usually have to do two steps (one to decompress the .gz or whatever, then the second to actually extract files from the tar file)
23:09 🔗 shaqfu That's not just bad advice; that's advice that can fuck you horribly
23:09 🔗 winr4r shaqfu: it is the exact opposite of what actually happens
23:10 🔗 winr4r "Livetweeting New Technologies in Personal #Archiving w/ Jeffrey Lancaster, Emerging Technologies Coordinator at @Columbialib - good turnout!"
23:11 🔗 winr4r apparently to the bellends in the "digital humanities", "archiving" means "trusting websites with all your shit"
23:11 🔗 jose thanks a lot guys
23:11 🔗 jose for the advice
23:11 🔗 jose bye
23:11 🔗 shaqfu winr4r: The talk was about using stuff like Evernote to "archive"
23:12 🔗 shaqfu Because the cloud has such a wonderful record for long-term preservation
23:12 🔗 winr4r shaqfu: and pinterest and delicious apparently
23:12 🔗 winr4r delicious
23:13 🔗 shaqfu Jesus Christ
23:13 🔗 winr4r that is fucking awesome in so many ways that i'd have to try and get oral sex from a shark to top just how shit-for-brains, fucked-in-the-head stupid that is
23:13 🔗 shaqfu That one's even on death watch, since Yahoo keeps talking about killing "non core services"
23:13 🔗 winr4r shaqfu: it's no longer part of yahoo
23:13 🔗 shaqfu winr4r: Really? My mistake, then
23:14 🔗 shaqfu (or was it spun off and left to die?)
23:14 🔗 winr4r shaqfu: spun off, bought by the founders of youtube
23:14 🔗 Coderjoe argh
23:14 🔗 Coderjoe dammit I wanted to EDIT that RT
23:15 🔗 winr4r shaqfu: of course if you didn't back up your shit or transfer to the new, AVOS-owned delicious then said shit would have been lost in the transition
23:16 🔗 shaqfu Yep
23:17 🔗 winr4r "Unfortunately, if you missed the opt-in to migrate your account from Yahoo!, all that data stayed on Yahoo! servers. After extending the amount of time users could recover their data by more than a month after migration, the servers have since been decomissioned and the data is no longer available."
23:17 🔗 shaqfu Pity SketchCow was at a different university today - I can't imagine what would've happened if it was there...
23:18 🔗 winr4r REMINDER: somebody actually suggested delicious for archiving
23:18 🔗 winr4r shaqfu: i can't either, but i'd love to have watched the video
23:18 🔗 shaqfu Should've just said "cut out the middleman and rsync to fos.textfiles.org because it'll end up there anyway if you use these services"
23:18 🔗 winr4r haha
23:21 🔗 Coderjoe damn "promoted" tweets
23:21 🔗 Coderjoe I don't care about this company, but I am seeing their shit because they're bribing twitter to show it to everyone
23:22 🔗 winr4r Coderjoe: meh
23:23 🔗 winr4r i don't get a bit angry about twitter trying to find a business model
23:24 🔗 Aranje I'm so sorry you're trying to use the web interface
23:24 🔗 Aranje metrotwit/tweetdeck on windows, hotot on linux, and fuck phones they have a twitter app
23:25 🔗 Wyatt Seesmic web isn't too shabby either.
23:25 🔗 Wyatt Better than twitter.com
23:25 🔗 winr4r i think the web client is rather nice
23:25 🔗 winr4r Wyatt: word
23:25 🔗 Aranje There's too much sliding and massive heavy javascript operations for my tastes on their web interface
23:26 🔗 Wyatt But yeah, most of my Twittering is done from Plume on my phone these days.
23:26 🔗 Wyatt (Or TTYtter on my desktop, because it's awesome)
23:26 🔗 shaqfu Alright
23:26 🔗 Aranje I feel old-school for using the text message interface
23:26 🔗 shaqfu So I hit a brick wall with parodius.com
23:27 🔗 shaqfu wget got me blacklisted, so I'm looking to get in touch with the admin now
23:27 🔗 shaqfu I was told the best way to do this is via the nesdev forums, which I can no longer access
23:27 🔗 shaqfu Anyone else want to take this over?
23:27 🔗 Wyatt shaqfu: So what's this, now?
23:28 🔗 shaqfu Wyatt: parodius.com is going down in a few months
23:28 🔗 Wyatt FFFFFFF
23:29 🔗 shaqfu I was working on archiving it, but like I said, I was blacklisted
23:29 🔗 shaqfu I could probably tether to my phone and use a fake IP or w/e, but it might be easier for someone else to take over contacting the admin
23:29 🔗 shaqfu Since I was told to do it via a parodius-hosted forum
23:30 🔗 shaqfu From the sound of it, they'll probably mail us a drive full of data
23:31 🔗 shaqfu It doens't seem like they get much bandwidth, if ~1GB of wget'ing killed their line
23:31 🔗 Wyatt So what, just post on the nesdev forums?
23:32 🔗 shaqfu Wyatt: That, or PM koitsu
23:33 🔗 Wyatt Word
23:33 🔗 shaqfu Thanks
23:44 🔗 Coderjoe yes, I was using the web interface because I wanted to RT+edit a tweet that was pasted in IRC
23:59 🔗 underscor <Zebranky> I'm con chair of BronyCon ._.
23:59 🔗 underscor Wait, really?!?!?!?!

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