#archiveteam 2012-04-26,Thu

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Time	Nickname	Message
00:09 ^🔗	dashcloud	so where can I put another shareware CD since batcave is being retired/retired?
00:22 ^🔗	nitro2k01	https://drive.google.com/ Hmmm!
00:22 ^🔗	winr4r	nitro2k01: what could possibly go wrong
00:25 ^🔗	nitro2k01	That about sums up my thoughts
00:32 ^🔗	underscor	Just watched this
00:32 ^🔗	underscor	http://www.amazon.com/Comic-Con-Episode-IV-Fans-Hope/dp/B007RV6NJW/ref=pd_sim_b_1
00:32 ^🔗	underscor	SO GOOD
01:13 ^🔗	DFJustin	dashcloud: either upload straight to archive.org or I can give you an ftp location
01:15 ^🔗	dashcloud	ftp location would be good- thanks!
04:04 ^🔗	SketchCow	dashcloud: Just upload it to archive.org.
04:04 ^🔗	SketchCow	archive.org/upload
04:04 ^🔗	SketchCow	Awesome, he's gone
04:04 ^🔗	SketchCow	We should just be shoving CDs into archive.org and we add them to the collection.
04:07 ^🔗	DFJustin	I got it from him, it's up
04:08 ^🔗	DFJustin	http://archive.org/details/cdrom-best-of-kid-games
04:09 ^🔗	balrog_	SketchCow: fyi, progress :)
04:15 ^🔗	DFJustin	hmm did archive.org just shit the bed
04:24 ^🔗	Coderjoe	i'm still uploading to it
05:06 ^🔗	SketchCow	Always good to know.
05:37 ^🔗	ivan`	some guy tells me http://www.bladeandepsilon.com/ might be going down
05:44 ^🔗	winr4r	what a super site
07:19 ^🔗	SketchCow	The batcave shove-off continues.
07:24 ^🔗	Nemo_bis	only 20 MB/s :p
07:41 ^🔗	SketchCow	We are absolutely going to fill FOS tonight.
07:41 ^🔗	SketchCow	The machine is just thrashing like hell.
07:41 ^🔗	SketchCow	Too much Mobileme.
07:41 ^🔗	SketchCow	It's technically infeasable for it to even just .tar and upload these files fast enough.
07:43 ^🔗	chronomex	why is SketchCow's name highlighted in http://badcheese.com/~steve/atlogs/ ?
07:44 ^🔗	SketchCow	Yeah, just checked.
07:44 ^🔗	SketchCow	We're adding 50gb to that machine every 40 minutes.
07:45 ^🔗	SketchCow	So basically, let's go with "about a gig a minute"
07:45 ^🔗	SketchCow	It takes longer than that to .tar it up
07:45 ^🔗	SketchCow	And takes a little less to upload it.
07:45 ^🔗	SketchCow	Disk is at 96 percent.
07:46 ^🔗	SketchCow	I think I need alard to stop the uploading via FOS for a day.
07:47 ^🔗	Aranje	slow for a bit to let it get a head start?
07:47 ^🔗	Wyatt	Is there any way we could offload some of the menial processing to the clients in the future?
07:47 ^🔗	SketchCow	There's not really any snow.
07:47 ^🔗	SketchCow	slow
07:47 ^🔗	SketchCow	Well, the right thing to do is upload directly into archive.org, but it can't easily be done with smaller clients.
07:47 ^🔗	SketchCow	No, the problem is that MobileMe is a massive massive set of data.
07:47 ^🔗	SketchCow	I bet THE MAJORITY OF COMPANIES ON EARTH don't transfer this sort of data.
07:48 ^🔗	Aranje	Can you physically ratelimit your uploading to allow the machine to be slightly ahead?
07:48 ^🔗	SketchCow	Your solutions are full of assumptions
07:49 ^🔗	SketchCow	To be honest, I don't know why the archive.org admins haven't flipped out over what's going on here.
07:49 ^🔗	SketchCow	We must be demolishing some major internal structures.
07:51 ^🔗	SketchCow	Well, I have to go to bed soon.
07:51 ^🔗	SketchCow	We've filled FOS.
07:51 ^🔗	SketchCow	It's going to error out tonight.
07:51 ^🔗	SketchCow	Probably in, oh, 2-3 hours.
07:51 ^🔗	SketchCow	No way to stop it other than to kill rsync.
07:51 ^🔗	SketchCow	I hope the uploader can handle that.
07:52 ^🔗	SketchCow	I see some of these 50gb hero sets are taking 2-3 hours to turn into .tar files.
07:52 ^🔗	SketchCow	That's precious.
07:54 ^🔗	SketchCow	I really fucking hate mobileme.
07:54 ^🔗	SketchCow	So huge.
07:54 ^🔗	SketchCow	So much shit.
07:54 ^🔗	SketchCow	I mean, after this, we'll be able to do ANYTHING.
07:54 ^🔗	SketchCow	So I guess that's good.
07:55 ^🔗	SketchCow	OK, that's it. Killing it now.
08:01 ^🔗	SketchCow	All gone, going to let this system catch up for a day
08:44 ^🔗	*	SmileyG ponders
08:44 ^🔗	SmileyG	SketchCow: random question, but should "I" as random uploader, stop?
08:45 ^🔗	SmileyG	or was this the "alturnative" route for privildged users which just stopped?
09:01 ^🔗	Wyatt	SmileyG: You've been doing tiny amounts of traffic compared to the people in this list: http://memac-tamer.heroku.com/
09:02 ^🔗	pronoiac	Hey, is anyone else having problems rsyncing to fos.textfiles.com ?
09:03 ^🔗	Wyatt	pronoiac: Jason killed rsyncd because we filled it up.
09:03 ^🔗	Wyatt	It needs some time to digest what we've got.
09:04 ^🔗	pronoiac	Cool.
09:04 ^🔗	pronoiac	Is there a way to report problematic items?
09:05 ^🔗	pronoiac	Or are they automatically handled, with the stragglers getting retried after the first pass?
09:06 ^🔗	pronoiac	Also, holy crap, some people are running dozens of crawlers. Wow.
09:08 ^🔗	Wyatt	Yeah, I'm not sure how no one has noticed oli's 17TB of traffic on like...three IPs over the last month.
09:08 ^🔗	Wyatt	And kenneth is...I just don't even know.
09:09 ^🔗	pronoiac	Those are using the S3 interface? So, each process has around 1.5 megabytes/sec of bandwidth?
09:12 ^🔗	pronoiac	It's - I don't think I have that much bandwidth to my router. In the next room.
09:15 ^🔗	Coderjoe	kenneth is using heroku resources and the s3 client
09:15 ^🔗	Coderjoe	i think oli is also using the s3 interface
09:15 ^🔗	Coderjoe	those with high throughput are supposedly using the s3 interface directly
09:16 ^🔗	Coderjoe	2-3 hours to just .tar or tar.gz?
09:22 ^🔗	pronoiac	Oh, I meant his collective bandwidth >> my measly non-gigabit ethernet.
09:22 ^🔗	Coderjoe	i think oli's using encyclopedia dramatica's servers
09:23 ^🔗	Coderjoe	and heroku is hosted within amazon's ec2
09:23 ^🔗	Burninate	Hi, I'm new here. What's going on tonight?
09:24 ^🔗	Coderjoe	keeping a watch out for trogdor
09:25 ^🔗	Burninate	What is the current project?
09:27 ^🔗	Burninate	Also, am I correct to guess that this community first arose around the Reocities project?
09:28 ^🔗	Coderjoe	archiveteam was one of the groups that went after geocities
09:28 ^🔗	pronoiac	I can't speak for archiveteam - I'm just doing some mirroring of MobileMe.
09:29 ^🔗	Burninate	ahh, okay
09:29 ^🔗	Coderjoe	the current big project is mobileme, but the upload staging host is full at the moment and needs some time to get cleared out
09:30 ^🔗	ersi	Burninate: Reocity is someone else
09:30 ^🔗	Coderjoe	(the clearing is underway, but takes some time, even with LAN network speeds)
09:30 ^🔗	ersi	Burninate: AFAIK
09:31 ^🔗	Burninate	Has the legality of all this ever been challenged, either by copyright or privacy concerns?
09:32 ^🔗	ersi	lol, legality
09:32 ^🔗	Coderjoe	the house is burning. who has time to argue about legality?
09:32 ^🔗	Burninate	Assholes, that's who
09:32 ^🔗	Burninate	I'm curious if you've ran into any
09:32 ^🔗	ersi	nopes
09:32 ^🔗	ersi	besides, who should they bicker at? We're a bunch of individuals
09:33 ^🔗	Coderjoe	some of the stage6 content might get challenged and go dark
09:33 ^🔗	Burninate	shit, you go that far back?
09:33 ^🔗	Burninate	I liked stage6
09:34 ^🔗	Coderjoe	but it will still exist for historians to examine
09:34 ^🔗	Coderjoe	no. that was a personal project of mine, prior to archiveteam
09:35 ^🔗	Coderjoe	sadly, i only got metadata for about 4.24% and video files for about 1.17% of what was there
09:35 ^🔗	Coderjoe	... which still amounts to 304GB
09:35 ^🔗	ersi	that's a lot more than 0.0%
09:36 ^🔗	Coderjoe	it's also a little skewed toward what i was personally interested in :-\
09:38 ^🔗	Coderjoe	but it's going up at http://archive.org/details/stage6/
09:39 ^🔗	pronoiac	Dumb question: Do you know where people are doing the mirroring? Home, VPS, dedicated servers, ?
09:39 ^🔗	Coderjoe	all of the above
09:39 ^🔗	Coderjoe	whichever they have available
09:40 ^🔗	ersi	answer is no
09:41 ^🔗	pronoiac	I'd be curious to see something like TOR's "Good & Bad ISPs" page, for this.
09:42 ^🔗	pronoiac	Rather, I'd like that.
10:03 ^🔗	SmileyG	Wyatt: yeah I realise i'm quite insiginificant ;) - I meant is it worth me downloading if its just gonna die when it tries to rsync it back up?
10:04 ^🔗	Coderjoe	seesaw's rsync should keep retrying until it succeeds
10:04 ^🔗	Wyatt	^
10:05 ^🔗	SmileyG	ah ok
10:08 ^🔗	pronoiac	Ugh, I just found another loop of some sort.
10:08 ^🔗	pronoiac	It's retrying resources that returned 404s.
10:09 ^🔗	pronoiac	195 times and counting.
10:09 ^🔗	Coderjoe	the same resource?
10:10 ^🔗	pronoiac	I grepped for 1 specific entry.
10:10 ^🔗	pronoiac	There are many files with 404s in the wget log.
10:10 ^🔗	Coderjoe	if different pages refer to it, wget will try on each new page that refers to it
10:11 ^🔗	Coderjoe	dead links are unfortunately the ephemeral nature of the world wide web
10:13 ^🔗	pronoiac	This might be the cause of a memory problem - it's using 1.7 gig of memory right now.
10:15 ^🔗	pronoiac	Since I started on the MobileMe mirror, it's the second problem I've seen that, with the structure we have, can only be fixed in wget.
10:16 ^🔗	Coderjoe	yeah, with a large recursive get, wget will take a lot of memory
10:16 ^🔗	*	Coderjoe slinks into bed
10:17 ^🔗	pronoiac	Er, yeah, it's late.
10:18 ^🔗	pronoiac	Oh, alternately: when it gets stuck in a loop, get a list of the resources it's fetched, then do another non-recursive crawl using just the files on that list.
10:22 ^🔗	chronomex	Coderjoe: smart.
12:17 ^🔗	DragonDon	Greetings all!
12:27 ^🔗	dnova	hello
12:28 ^🔗	DragonDon	hi dnova
14:57 ^🔗	SmileyG	erm
14:57 ^🔗	SmileyG	bug: If you've done touch ./STOP, it doesn't retry the rsync (I dunno if it does anyway)...
15:00 ^🔗	SmileyG	hense the asking this morning :(
15:00 ^🔗	winr4r	./STOP != ./stop
15:01 ^🔗	winr4r	oh, never mind, caps in original
15:01 ^🔗	SmileyG	yah
15:01 ^🔗	SmileyG	it STOPPED, it didn't continue to retry and then stop.
15:01 ^🔗	*	SmileyG notes he has 10gb of "stuff" in ./data/
15:01 ^🔗	SmileyG	not sure how much of it actually uploaded tho :S
15:03 ^🔗	sethish	Sweet. I got a bunch of free aws credit. I think I'll do that project gutenberg >> github project I've been wanting to do
15:04 ^🔗	SketchCow	Morning.
15:05 ^🔗	winr4r	morning jason
15:05 ^🔗	mistym	Hey SketchCow
15:05 ^🔗	sethish	mornin'
15:19 ^🔗	balrog_	morning, SketchCow
15:19 ^🔗	balrog_	you saw about the progress, right? :)
15:19 ^🔗	SmileyG	Mornin.
15:20 ^🔗	SmileyG	I presume theres some way to just "upload the finished stuff" ?
15:21 ^🔗	SketchCow	balrog_: Are you discussing #discferret in #archivteam again?
15:21 ^🔗	balrog_	maybe, I'm in too many channels for my own good.
15:22 ^🔗	*	SmileyG realises hes turning into that loud annoying little kid :/
15:22 ^🔗	SketchCow	Keep that right.
15:22 ^🔗	SketchCow	SmileyG: Someone has to be, underscor is now 18
15:22 ^🔗	SmileyG	hmmm I'm 26? :)
15:22 ^🔗	SmileyG	Mental age of..... about 12 I think.
15:22 ^🔗	SketchCow	Shhh, don't tell your classmates that
15:23 ^🔗	SmileyG	hmmmm 28
15:23 ^🔗	SmileyG	Â¬_Â¬
15:23 ^🔗	SmileyG	I stopped counting my age too, and now I constantly forget how old I am :D
15:26 ^🔗	SketchCow	Yeah, I've got us down to 90% already (from 96%) and all the uploads are going much faster. I think we defeinitely need to call today No MobileMe day
15:26 ^🔗	SketchCow	But it returns one day later.
15:26 ^🔗	winr4r	http://business.fortunecity.com/analysis/885/ d'awww
15:26 ^🔗	SmileyG	Is this "offically" part of your job SketchCow btw?
15:26 ^🔗	*	SmileyG is still confused by the whole situation.
15:27 ^🔗	winr4r	talking of which i have like 4000 screenshots to crop (some random shit on the bottom and edge of each screenshot)
15:27 ^🔗	SmileyG	winr4r: imagemagik ?
15:27 ^🔗	winr4r	SmileyG: yes
15:27 ^🔗	SketchCow	Once we finish MobilMe, we can all sit back and enjoy a nice dinner of Meat Goats
15:27 ^🔗	SmileyG	:)
15:27 ^🔗	mistym	Hey, happy birthday underscor!
15:28 ^🔗	winr4r	SmileyG: problem: most of them are on Wyatt's VPS and i'm wondering if his host will get sad if i totally rape the CPU for like 20 minutes straight
15:28 ^🔗	SmileyG	winr4r: ah.
15:28 ^🔗	winr4r	Wyatt: talking of which, prod me when you're around
15:28 ^🔗	SmileyG	winr4r: hmmm I might know who hosts that VPS
15:28 ^🔗	SmileyG	Let me go see.
15:29 ^🔗	winr4r	about to do a test run on 500 of them here
15:30 ^🔗	SmileyG	any good VPS 1. wont notice, 2. won't care, 3. Will have limited anything worth limiting anyway.
15:32 ^🔗	SmileyG	I wonder if these 28K ./data/s/s_/s_i/s_igusa/web.me.com/files/web.me.com/s_igusa/è½å¢å·ãã¤ãã«ãã£ã³ã
15:33 ^🔗	SketchCow	I did actually figure out what happened.
15:34 ^🔗	SketchCow	After the FOS reboot, I didn't have the daemon running that makes the new 50-gb chunks. So we ended up with, like, 5tb of data that had to then be dealt with.
15:34 ^🔗	SmileyG	Ouch.
15:34 ^🔗	SketchCow	And then we started to hit lag on them, because now the machine was trying to catch up AND take new data.
15:34 ^🔗	*	SmileyG powers up the mega-super-extra-zero-II-splittermon
15:37 ^🔗	winr4r	oh ffs, bad news is that the screenshots have about 15 pixels randomly missing from the right hand side after random-shit cropping
15:37 ^🔗	winr4r	oh well, i have 4 days!
15:37 ^🔗	*	winr4r headdesks
15:37 ^🔗	SmileyG	:<
15:40 ^🔗	winr4r	http://i.imgur.com/Jktyl.png
15:40 ^🔗	winr4r	which might seem minor but it's not faithful at all to the original
15:43 ^🔗	SmileyG	the banner at the top :Â«
15:44 ^🔗	*	SmileyG passes some spare ] to winr4r
15:48 ^🔗	winr4r	:/
16:05 ^🔗	shaqfu	aggro: How's Parodius going?
16:07 ^🔗	mistym	winr4r: For what it's worth, I find graphicsmagick can sometimes be a bit more reliable than imagemagick. (Assuming the cropping wasn't a capture-end thing.)
16:08 ^🔗	winr4r	mistym: i've fixed the bot so that it doesn't have that random junk on the sides
16:08 ^🔗	winr4r	running it again, seems to work better
16:08 ^🔗	mistym	:D
16:09 ^🔗	winr4r	(if i don't get all 4000-ish by closing time i'll be okay since i have the others, even if they are sub-optimum)
16:09 ^🔗	winr4r	(but i see no reason that will happen)
16:20 ^🔗	yipdw	I wish we had Google Video records
16:20 ^🔗	yipdw	I'm wondering if mobileme is bigger than that now
16:20 ^🔗	yipdw	I mean, what we got
16:20 ^🔗	yipdw	I think Google Video is easily above 200 TB in its entirety
16:20 ^🔗	yipdw	(maybe)
16:21 ^🔗	yipdw	oh, wait
16:21 ^🔗	yipdw	duh
16:21 ^🔗	yipdw	http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Google_Video
16:21 ^🔗	winr4r	yup
16:21 ^🔗	yipdw	18 TB, shit
16:21 ^🔗	yipdw	there's two people on the mobileme grab who have done more than that
16:21 ^🔗	winr4r	yeah
16:21 ^🔗	yipdw	I suspect oli will be exceeding that today too
16:24 ^🔗	yipdw	heh
16:24 ^🔗	yipdw	2012-04-26 11:24:16 URL:http://gallery.me.com/emewsiq/100238/DSC_0628/large.jpg [651059/651059] -> "/dev/null" [1]
16:24 ^🔗	yipdw	that reminded me that Nikon is now making cameras with 36 MP sensors
16:24 ^🔗	yipdw	one raw capture off one of those is around 48 MB
16:24 ^🔗	yipdw	have fun backing that shit up
16:25 ^🔗	winr4r	i'd like to see a lens resolve that well
16:25 ^🔗	yipdw	I don't know of any
16:27 ^🔗	winr4r	yipdw: i make it 63 mb at 14-bit NEF
16:27 ^🔗	winr4r	for*
16:27 ^🔗	yipdw	even better :P
16:27 ^🔗	winr4r	though i might have miscalculated because that's pre-bayer
16:27 ^🔗	*	winr4r shrugs
16:28 ^🔗	yipdw	NEFs (and CR2s etc) are also losslessly compressed in some fashion
16:29 ^🔗	winr4r	yipdw: now i think about it, your original figure seems right, so meh
16:29 ^🔗	mistym	yipdw: Depends on which Nikon raw format. Some older ones actually had lossy compression.
16:29 ^🔗	yipdw	but, yes, the best resolution I've seen out of a camera system that I own is an EF 100mm f/2.8 macro on a 5D Mark II
16:29 ^🔗	yipdw	I'm not sure if the 100mm is outresolving the sensor
16:29 ^🔗	yipdw	frankly I don't give a shit because the results are insane
16:29 ^🔗	yipdw	mistym: they had the balls to call that raw?
16:30 ^🔗	winr4r	^
16:30 ^🔗	mistym	yipdw: Yeah. Lemme grab a cite.
16:30 ^🔗	mistym	I seem to recall they cut that out later, but at least at one point in time they were definitely dropping some data.
16:30 ^🔗	winr4r	mistym, yipdw, as i recall that was always optional
16:31 ^🔗	mistym	http://www.completedigitalphotography.com/?p=489
16:32 ^🔗	yipdw	mistym: oh, that's not as bad as I thought
16:34 ^🔗	mistym	Still seems pretty cheeky to call it "raw" when it's had a lossy curve applied.
16:34 ^🔗	winr4r	maybe
16:34 ^🔗	yipdw	it sounds like they called it "compressed raw"
16:35 ^🔗	yipdw	which isn't really a misnomer, especially if Nikon isn't calling it lossless; but, yeah, I can see how that can be misleading
16:35 ^🔗	mistym	That's true.
16:35 ^🔗	winr4r	i like how everyone actually cares about that
16:35 ^🔗	mistym	I have a vague memory of some camera either defaulting to it or not offering the option, but clearly hasn't been the case in awhile.
16:35 ^🔗	yipdw	I know cRAW seems to be a trend
16:36 ^🔗	yipdw	I'm really not sure why
16:36 ^🔗	mistym	People want to be cool and use raw, but don't actually want to commit.
16:36 ^🔗	yipdw	it will give you higher shooting rates, but
16:36 ^🔗	yipdw	well
16:36 ^🔗	yipdw	I can actually think of one use case, but I'm not sure it makes any sense
16:37 ^🔗	mistym	If you want high shooting rates, not sure cRAW is acceptable even then. Probably still too pokey.
16:37 ^🔗	yipdw	say that you want to maximize shot rates but want to preserve the ability to manipulate white balance in post
16:37 ^🔗	yipdw	I dunno
16:37 ^🔗	yipdw	it's a weird combo
16:37 ^🔗	yipdw	might as well get the WB right off the bat
16:38 ^🔗	yipdw	and if you want high shot rates for stills, then why are you not using something like a 1D Mark IV :P
16:40 ^🔗	winr4r	eh
16:40 ^🔗	winr4r	8 frames per second in raw fills up memory cards really, really fast
16:41 ^🔗	winr4r	as in minutes
16:42 ^🔗	yipdw	I guess if you're doing that, you might as well have a file transmitter
16:43 ^🔗	winr4r	yipdw: as in carry a laptop around to make yourself even more of a theft target?
16:43 ^🔗	yipdw	winr4r: wireless file transmitter
16:44 ^🔗	yipdw	I mean, the laptop doesn't have to be around with you
16:44 ^🔗	DFJustin	just have a bandolier of memory cards
16:45 ^🔗	winr4r	good luck with that at 48mbit/second on a 4.1 megapixel camera
16:45 ^🔗	yipdw	http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer/products/cameras/consumer_cameras_wft/wireless_file_transmitter_wft_e7a pulls it off
16:45 ^🔗	winr4r	sorry, 48 megabytes per second
16:45 ^🔗	yipdw	I mean, no, it will not handle a continuous stream of raws
16:46 ^🔗	yipdw	but then again neither will the camera's internal buffers
16:46 ^🔗	yipdw	so it's not really worth considering that case
16:54 ^🔗	winr4r	in any case, over 500 screenshots, about 3000 to go :)
17:23 ^🔗	aggro	shaqfu: working on a slow crawl of the hosts atm with the exception of nesdev, which Tepples has said he is archiving himself (http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Parodius_Networking). Demiforce and donut both require authentication, so no archive there. Currently on spliceworld. The hosts aren't taking long at all.
17:23 ^🔗	aggro	(Even with the delay)
17:24 ^🔗	aggro	Looks like transcorp has a small forum. That might take a while with the delay, but otherwise going fine right now.
17:25 ^🔗	aggro	Also, I'm considering updating the wiki article. Judging by the he-said she-said on their forum I think we've miscommunicated with each other.
17:29 ^🔗	shaqfu	aggro: What list of URLs are you using?
17:32 ^🔗	aggro	www, ffxiquest, gaijin, haven, hd, jdc, ps2pc, pt, sl1me, spliceworld, transcorp, zatos
17:32 ^🔗	aggro	example: haven.parodius.com
17:33 ^🔗	shaqfu	That's probably most of it. Do you want the list I compiled? I think there are a few more
17:34 ^🔗	aggro	Sure. I haven't examined the other sites they host (like rocknes)
17:35 ^🔗	shaqfu	Give me a few minutes - starting that box up
17:38 ^🔗	shaqfu	aggro: donut, chojin, sdlmame, mv, blargg.parodius.com/gme_java/, soulstream, dowd, vice, and maybe all the stuff under koitsu.org
17:39 ^🔗	shaqfu	Oh, right, strikeout donut
17:39 ^🔗	aggro	donut asks me for auth --right. thanks.
17:40 ^🔗	shaqfu	There might be a few more I missed, but I was at the point where I was finding a lot of placeholder sites
17:41 ^🔗	aggro	cool. I'll add them.
17:44 ^🔗	shaqfu	Thanks again
17:50 ^🔗	bear_	1
17:51 ^🔗	yipdw	hm
17:51 ^🔗	yipdw	I wonder if it's bad form to use internet memes in commit messages
17:52 ^🔗	yipdw	I just threw # encoding: utf-8 on a shitload of source files and the urge to write ENCODE ALL THE FILES as the commit message is hard to resist
17:52 ^🔗	aggro	I think that's a perfect commit message. It's probably shorter than what you were going to write too :P
17:55 ^🔗	yipdw	actually, maybe I can base64 http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3ozhsp/ into it
18:23 ^🔗	pberry	fos.textfiles.com having issues?
18:24 ^🔗	Nemo_bis	it's full, rsync halted
18:27 ^🔗	shaqfu	Slightly off-topic, does anyone know the URL of that list of hard drive prices?
18:27 ^🔗	closure_	http://edwardbetts.com/hdd_price_per_tb/ that one?
18:27 ^🔗	winr4r	http://edwardbetts.com/price_per_tb/internal_hdd/
18:27 ^🔗	shaqfu	That's the one; thanks
18:27 ^🔗	winr4r	oh bummer, beat to it
18:28 ^🔗	ersi	winr4r: your link was better :)
18:28 ^🔗	winr4r	ersi: maybe not, because external ones are still cheaper per terabyte, oddly
18:28 ^🔗	closure_	actually, this one is better, ie cheaper :) http://edwardbetts.com/price_per_tb/external_hdd/
18:29 ^🔗	closure_	yeah
18:29 ^🔗	closure_	tasty tasty terabytes, growing some shells for protection
18:29 ^🔗	yipdw	huh, $170 for 3TB
18:30 ^🔗	yipdw	I should pick up five of those and add those to my home disk array
18:30 ^🔗	yipdw	that'd like double the size of the fucking thing
18:30 ^🔗	ersi	indeed you should
18:30 ^🔗	Nemo_bis	did the IA buy those? Seagate FreeAgent GoFlex Desk 3TB USB 3.0 Desktop External Hard Drive
18:31 ^🔗	Nemo_bis	pberry, you're not on the charts so I can't know: how fast are you downloading mobileme?
18:32 ^🔗	Nemo_bis	it's usually suggested to use seesaw-s3 only if you have at least 1.5 MB/s (up and down), but maybe if fos is down this can be lowered a bit
18:34 ^🔗	Nemo_bis	(so that you upload directly to archive.org)
18:34 ^🔗	yipdw	I'd just wait it out
18:34 ^🔗	yipdw	seesaw-s3 isn't a drop-in
18:37 ^🔗	pberry	Nemo_bis: just having trouble uploading
18:37 ^🔗	pberry	rsync is very grumpy
18:37 ^🔗	pberry	ah
18:37 ^🔗	pberry	just read back up...
18:37 ^🔗	pberry	thanks
21:07 ^🔗	Nemo_bis	underscor, ping
22:36 ^🔗	codebear	seesaw-s3?
22:47 ^🔗	shaqfu	Has anyone downloaded the Dell documentation library?
22:52 ^🔗	shaqfu	Seems straightforward enough, but if someone already has it, I'd rather not duplicate effort

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