#archiveteam 2012-04-30,Mon

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Time	Nickname	Message
01:34 ^🔗	SketchCo1	alard: Thanks.
03:59 ^🔗	SketchCo1	Bing.
04:02 ^🔗	*	Jiro looks for live people.
04:02 ^🔗	nitro2k01	SketchCo one
04:04 ^🔗	Jiro	*^^&^& connection problems...
04:04 ^🔗	SketchCo1	Yes, I'm one.
04:05 ^🔗	SketchCo1	Do you need something?
04:05 ^🔗	nitro2k01	Oh no, zero!
04:05 ^🔗	*	Jiro was mostly curious if Usenet was ever archived. I know about Utzoo and Google groups...
04:06 ^🔗	Jiro	I recall that making the Usenet archive involved several different sources, such as old CD-ROM Usenet distributions.
04:06 ^🔗	Jiro	Theoretically, one would hope other people could get ahold of those though they're pretty rare.
04:06 ^🔗	SketchC0w	We grabbed a copy that was one of the main sources.
04:07 ^🔗	SketchC0w	http://archive.org/details/utzoo-wiseman-usenet-archive
04:07 ^🔗	SketchC0w	From that, olduse.net was made
04:07 ^🔗	Jiro	-----^ "I know about Utzoo"
04:07 ^🔗	SketchC0w	I see.
04:07 ^🔗	SketchC0w	"I was mostly curious if anything is sweet. I know about candy bars and sugar."
04:08 ^🔗	Jiro	The ones I was referring to came after that )overlapping it I believe) and cert6ainly are not covered by it.
04:08 ^🔗	SketchC0w	Ah.
04:08 ^🔗	SketchC0w	Well, good luck finding them.
04:08 ^🔗	SketchC0w	Let us know when you have them, we'll make a copy.
04:08 ^🔗	*	Jiro figured as much. They need archiving. I could suppose we can hope Google will give archivists copies if they ever delete them...
04:09 ^🔗	Jiro	Also, Google Groups brings up a message "The old Google Groups will be going away soon.
04:09 ^🔗	Jiro	Switch to the new Google Groups."
04:10 ^🔗	SketchC0w	Ah, yes.
04:10 ^🔗	SketchC0w	Well, we grabbed a copy of Google Groups' files and webpages.
04:10 ^🔗	SketchC0w	But not the lists, yet.
04:10 ^🔗	Jiro	It's been like that for a while, actually.
04:10 ^🔗	SketchC0w	Yeah, thanks.
04:10 ^🔗	SketchC0w	Please, please sit here and tell me this.
04:10 ^🔗	SketchC0w	All night.
04:11 ^🔗	Jiro	I'm not trying to tell you anything, I'm wondering what's going on.
04:11 ^🔗	SketchC0w	And I told you.
04:11 ^🔗	SketchC0w	And now you have a mission.
04:11 ^🔗	SketchC0w	Good luck, here's a candy bar.
04:11 ^🔗	SketchC0w	(They're sweet)
04:11 ^🔗	Jiro	Well, I was trying to tell you that there were Usenet distributions on CD but you didnb't seem to know that.
04:11 ^🔗	SketchC0w	I did.
04:11 ^🔗	*	nitro2k01 grabs popcorn
04:11 ^🔗	Jiro	Thanks, I guess.
04:12 ^🔗	SketchC0w	You are confusing "didn't know" with "might not have yet"
04:12 ^🔗	SketchC0w	http://archive.org/search.php?query=usenet%20AND%20collection%3Acdbbsarchive
04:12 ^🔗	SketchC0w	I assume you mean things like this
04:12 ^🔗	nitro2k01	He's gone. (I DON'T SAY!)
04:12 ^🔗	SketchC0w	Is he?
04:12 ^🔗	SketchC0w	I stopped tracking quits and joins.
04:12 ^🔗	nitro2k01	-!- Jiro [~arromdee@208.65.89.134] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
04:12 ^🔗	SketchC0w	Ah.
04:13 ^🔗	nitro2k01	Before You are confusing...
04:13 ^🔗	SketchC0w	"Archive Team are a bunch of jerks. I told them they were missing stuff and they showed me they are aware of it and yet they didn't thank me for pointing it out."
04:14 ^🔗	nitro2k01	Cnogratulations on finding the most ungrateful job in the universe, Jason
04:14 ^🔗	SketchC0w	This is nowhere near that.
04:14 ^🔗	SketchC0w	Jizzmopper.
04:14 ^🔗	SketchC0w	That one's tough.
04:14 ^🔗	SketchC0w	Jizmopper Intern
04:14 ^🔗	SketchC0w	also awful
04:14 ^🔗	nitro2k01	Then again you might be turned on by jizz
04:14 ^🔗	shaqfu	Unpaid jizzmopper intern
04:14 ^🔗	shaqfu	"for experience"
04:15 ^🔗	shaqfu	In the burgegoniong jizzmopping industry
04:15 ^🔗	shaqfu	(Any interest in the Dell edocs library, BTW? I have about 80% of it)
04:15 ^🔗	SketchC0w	I take everything.
04:15 ^🔗	SketchC0w	Hey, so two issues.
04:15 ^🔗	SketchC0w	1. I am back home, yay
04:15 ^🔗	SketchC0w	2. This means I downloaded FEZ for the Xbox
04:16 ^🔗	SketchC0w	the two forces may fight
04:16 ^🔗	shaqfu	Tell me where to drop it; once it's done I'll start sending it on
04:17 ^🔗	shaqfu	I've heard Fez is excellent; you're in for a good time
04:17 ^🔗	SketchC0w	How big is it?
04:17 ^🔗	shaqfu	Dunno offhand; 10-15GB tops?
04:18 ^🔗	shaqfu	About 90% of it is redundant foreign language manusl
04:20 ^🔗	shaqfu	I could clean it if you'd like
04:23 ^🔗	SketchC0w	So, wait, it's you and nitro awake right now?
04:23 ^🔗	SketchC0w	I have a project, I'd love to fling someone at it.
04:23 ^🔗	shaqfu	I'm not awake much longer; what's up?
04:23 ^🔗	SketchC0w	Someone comfortable with bash or perl or whatever.
04:23 ^🔗	SketchC0w	No, this is longer term. I'll bring it up tomorrow.
04:23 ^🔗	shaqfu	Alright. I gotta get up at 4am for something
04:23 ^🔗	nitro2k01	Sweden. 06:24 AM. Been up all night.
04:25 ^🔗	SketchC0w	No worries.
04:25 ^🔗	SketchC0w	This is not time critical.
04:26 ^🔗	SketchC0w	At all.
04:26 ^🔗	SketchC0w	FEZ NOW
04:27 ^🔗	nitro2k01	Now I'm curious what that project may be, though
04:50 ^🔗	DFJustin	anothe one for the "websites that time forgot" list http://www.completelyfreesoftware.com/
04:53 ^🔗	nitro2k01	Hey. HEY! http://www.completelyfreesoftware.com/we1_w31.html
04:53 ^🔗	nitro2k01	They have WinBar
04:53 ^🔗	nitro2k01	I used this when I was 11 years old or so and thought it was the coolest thing
04:54 ^🔗	chronomex	We also do not currently support any 64-bit operating system as these are generally designed for commercial use.
04:55 ^🔗	*	chronomex nods from his amd64 laptop
04:55 ^🔗	chronomex	primarily used for porn, irc, and personal email
04:56 ^🔗	nitro2k01	Jesus said: .Go into all the world and preach the good news to all creation. Whoever believes and is baptised will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned..
04:56 ^🔗	nitro2k01	[Mark 16:15-16 NIV]
04:56 ^🔗	nitro2k01	Could this key save your life?
04:56 ^🔗	nitro2k01	Click on it to find out.
05:03 ^🔗	BlueMax	SketchC0w I have Child of Eden and it's really cool, how's Fez
05:06 ^🔗	green3	do you have a mouse? click here to find out!
05:07 ^🔗	nitro2k01	I remember some of those joke apps with a moving ok button (Win3.1 era)
05:07 ^🔗	nitro2k01	Tab, space
05:08 ^🔗	nitro2k01	Nothing happened
05:08 ^🔗	nitro2k01	I was disappoint
05:08 ^🔗	nitro2k01	I wanted a cookie
05:08 ^🔗	green3	did you happen to check your cookies afterward?
05:09 ^🔗	nitro2k01	I think you may be too young...
05:09 ^🔗	green3	i remember some of that bs
05:10 ^🔗	green3	how far back has that been going on?
05:10 ^🔗	nitro2k01	Point is, no internet at home, no cookies to check
05:10 ^🔗	nitro2k01	(I wanted a cookie referred to a symbolic chocolate chip cookie)
05:10 ^🔗	green3	anyway... SketchC0w , i'm not awesome at bash, but would also love to hear
05:11 ^🔗	green3	oh, my bad, skimmed over the part where this wasn't a hilarious website joke
05:11 ^🔗	nitro2k01	(Win3.1 era)
05:11 ^🔗	nitro2k01	apps
05:11 ^🔗	green3	win3.1 could internet
05:11 ^🔗	green3	apps is what i overlooked
05:12 ^🔗	nitro2k01	I'm glad we've come to agreement
05:12 ^🔗	*	nitro2k01 touches his nose
05:28 ^🔗	SketchC0w	Started my FEZ journey.
05:28 ^🔗	SketchC0w	Good stuff.
05:28 ^🔗	SketchC0w	Need to get some stuff in gear on Fortress, our remaining box for the moment.
05:29 ^🔗	BlueMax	SketchC0w, FEZ is best played while high
05:29 ^🔗	SketchC0w	Thanks.
05:29 ^🔗	SketchC0w	I'll mark that down under the line item "for if you ever get high"
05:30 ^🔗	BlueMax	I assume that's the only item on the list
05:31 ^🔗	chronomex	oh but of course
05:32 ^🔗	SketchC0w	I just agreed to be a wedding photographer.
05:37 ^🔗	nitro2k01	When the bride says yes, scream "YOU DON'T SAY!"
05:40 ^🔗	BlueMax	nah, he should do a Peter Griffin
05:40 ^🔗	BlueMax	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWgpFhA9Ve8
07:10 ^🔗	SketchC0w	Yay
07:12 ^🔗	BlueMax	What's up
07:15 ^🔗	ersi	rather, what's down?
07:16 ^🔗	BlueMax	What's left
07:17 ^🔗	chronomex	ââââââââBA
07:17 ^🔗	BlueMax	30 lives
07:17 ^🔗	BlueMax	I was just playing Contra today since I got my new SNES USB controller today
07:27 ^🔗	Wyatt\|Wor	I love how Contra never seems to stray too far from its roots.
07:27 ^🔗	Wyatt\|Wor	Well...mostly.
07:29 ^🔗	BlueMax	www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGq4kVcVz9U I made this video a few minutes ago
07:37 ^🔗	SmileyG	hmmmm
07:37 ^🔗	SmileyG	wow that was nice, 2 mobileme sites iwth like 3 pages each :D
07:37 ^🔗	SmileyG	and hten - "898 files"
08:14 ^🔗	knolwikip	knol closes tomorro
08:14 ^🔗	knolwikip	w
08:14 ^🔗	knolwikip	i
08:14 ^🔗	knolwikip	k
08:14 ^🔗	knolwikip	i
08:14 ^🔗	knolwikip	e
08:14 ^🔗	knolwikip	p
08:14 ^🔗	knolwikip	d
08:14 ^🔗	knolwikip	i
08:14 ^🔗	knolwikip	a
08:14 ^🔗	knolwikip	wins
08:14 ^🔗	knolwikip	http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Knol
08:14 ^🔗	knolwikip	700,000 knol urls http://db.tt/GNrEh61y
08:19 ^🔗	Nemo_bis	we didn't even bother to archive it?
08:19 ^🔗	ersi	there's a knol project and project channel
08:20 ^🔗	Nemo_bis	ersi, what's the channel?
08:20 ^🔗	Nemo_bis	and how long will knol be online still
08:20 ^🔗	ersi	It's closing tomorrow for what is known
08:21 ^🔗	knolwikip	#klol
08:21 ^🔗	ersi	ah yeah, was greppin' my logs for the channel name
08:22 ^🔗	SketchC0w	SORT of down to 959gb of friendster.
08:28 ^🔗	Nemo_bis	knolwikip, is the metadata linked from the wiki page on archive.org?
08:29 ^🔗	knolwikip	no
08:29 ^🔗	knolwikip	just dropbox
08:30 ^🔗	Nemo_bis	knolwikip, why don't you put it on archive.og, sounds better
08:31 ^🔗	knolwikip	do it you
08:32 ^🔗	Nemo_bis	aww
08:43 ^🔗	SketchC0w	http://vimeo.com/26629985
08:44 ^🔗	SketchC0w	He does the opening act for the archiveteam conference
08:51 ^🔗	BlueMax	I thought the opening act was beer
08:51 ^🔗	BlueMax	And the second act was hookers
08:51 ^🔗	BlueMax	And the final act was beer again
08:51 ^🔗	chronomex	you're forgetting something
08:51 ^🔗	chronomex	hookers and blow
08:52 ^🔗	BlueMax	blow blow blow blow
08:52 ^🔗	emijrp	archivist fantasies
08:53 ^🔗	BlueMax	no, archivists fantasize about floppy disks coming back
08:54 ^🔗	emijrp	between Ada Lovelace's boobs
08:55 ^🔗	BlueMax	who?
09:00 ^🔗	alard	SketchC0w: Every mobileme uploader is now uploading directly to s3, no longer using batcave. (It proxied over 120 TB.)
09:01 ^🔗	chronomex	wait on
09:01 ^🔗	chronomex	wait no
09:01 ^🔗	chronomex	I'm shoving my shit in at this very moment
09:01 ^🔗	chronomex	to batcave or fos or wherever the github upload-finished.sh pointed at six hours ago
09:01 ^🔗	alard	But not using seesaw-s3, right?
09:01 ^🔗	chronomex	no
09:01 ^🔗	chronomex	./upload-finished.sh
09:02 ^🔗	alard	This is all about the s3 uploader. upload-finished and normal seesaw upload to fos. The s3 uploader used batcave as a proxy, but now it doesn't.
09:02 ^🔗	chronomex	I had it sitting on my box for a few months I guess
09:02 ^🔗	chronomex	ok
09:02 ^🔗	alard	I think the rsync on batcave has been down for quite some time, so if you're uploading you're uploading to fos.
09:02 ^🔗	chronomex	ok
09:02 ^🔗	chronomex	fos it is then
10:10 ^🔗	SketchC0w	Thanks.
10:26 ^🔗	SketchC0w	I think statusboard.archive.org still lives on batcave.
10:26 ^🔗	SketchC0w	It appears to be - that user account keeps updating.
10:27 ^🔗	ersi	cool stuff
10:27 ^🔗	ersi	Shenzhen keeps busy
17:17 ^🔗	SketchC0w	WOOOOOOO
17:17 ^🔗	SketchC0w	Really? No activity in 6 hours?
17:19 ^🔗	yipdw	there were lots of bots running on fos
17:40 ^🔗	SketchC0w	Someone's uploading hundreds of punk/underground zines to archive.org.
17:40 ^🔗	SketchC0w	I'm going after byte as a treat after I get a few more things done.
17:44 ^🔗	winr4r	hi jason
17:44 ^🔗	SketchCow	Hey.
17:45 ^🔗	SketchCow	At some point I need to deal with your screenshot uploads.
17:45 ^🔗	SketchCow	They need to be a little more organized, it'll make getting them into the collection a little easier.
17:45 ^🔗	winr4r	yes, maybe
17:46 ^🔗	winr4r	i'm working away this week, as in i'm leaving in three quarters of an hour, so you might want to put that off until i get back if you need me
17:46 ^🔗	winr4r	and after that, fortunecity screenshots :)
17:46 ^🔗	SketchCow	I'm not hurting at the moment, but I go into your directory and it's a little butt-y
17:46 ^🔗	winr4r	(i've got them, just need to copy them somewhere)
17:47 ^🔗	winr4r	SketchCow: as in the .headers and .info files?
17:47 ^🔗	SketchCow	It helps me a LOT if you either upload them as a .tar.gz or a .zip or set each sequence in a directory so I can do something with them.
17:47 ^🔗	SketchCow	Each 'set' should be in a directory.
17:47 ^🔗	SketchCow	I will take a directory and make it a .zip, or you will, depending.
17:47 ^🔗	SketchCow	That's what should go into archive.org.
17:47 ^🔗	winr4r	gotcha
17:48 ^🔗	SketchCow	I don't mind FOS doing this work - but if it can be avoided, the machine isn't chugging on it.
17:48 ^🔗	winr4r	so group them up into batches of a hundred or something?
17:48 ^🔗	SketchCow	Right now, it's chuggling like crazy on mobileme stuff.
17:48 ^🔗	SketchCow	I don't think of hundreds.
17:48 ^🔗	SketchCow	I think of megs/gig.s
17:48 ^🔗	winr4r	ah, gotcha
17:48 ^🔗	SketchCow	So, say, 500mb pieces.
17:48 ^🔗	SketchCow	I can put all these .zips into an item.
17:49 ^🔗	SketchCow	Only people who would want these are going to go to one item.
17:49 ^🔗	winr4r	500mb would only be two pieces
17:49 ^🔗	winr4r	uh three
17:57 ^🔗	SketchCow	Well, are you going to make more beyond that?
17:57 ^🔗	SketchCow	If so, 500
17:57 ^🔗	SketchCow	If not, 100
17:59 ^🔗	winr4r	SketchCow: i can't say what will happen in future, i didn't expect to be grabbing 1.5-ish gb of fortunecity screenshots but i did
17:59 ^🔗	winr4r	but okay, i will use my judgment
18:00 ^🔗	SketchCow	Go with 100mb.
18:01 ^🔗	winr4r	and bundle the .headers and .info files with them?
18:02 ^🔗	SketchCow	Yes please.
18:03 ^🔗	winr4r	k :)
18:03 ^🔗	winr4r	i'll sort it out once i am back home
18:04 ^🔗	SketchCow	ha ha, I've been deleting a directory from FOS for 2 hours.
18:05 ^🔗	winr4r	good grief
18:05 ^🔗	winr4r	mv x /dev/null ?
18:05 ^🔗	winr4r	might be faster for all i know
18:06 ^🔗	winr4r	(althought that sounds dangerous)
18:09 ^🔗	SketchCow	.....and THERE we go.
18:09 ^🔗	SketchCow	It just finished. It's just a lot of files on a drive being hammered.
18:09 ^🔗	SketchCow	I'm trying to .tar up a lot of files that are in this case, friendster.
18:10 ^🔗	winr4r	ah :)
18:10 ^🔗	SketchCow	This was easily, 1,000,000 files.
18:10 ^🔗	winr4r	that's a whole lotta friendster
18:11 ^🔗	SketchCow	But it's NOT.
18:11 ^🔗	SketchCow	That's what so CRAZY
18:12 ^🔗	winr4r	it's a million things!
18:13 ^🔗	winr4r	i mean just pretend each one of those things is worth $1
18:19 ^🔗	winr4r	super, 13 minutes before i leave is a real good time to not be able to find my glasses
18:20 ^🔗	Wyatt	winr4r: They're over there on the thing.
18:20 ^🔗	winr4r	haha, hey Wyatt
18:28 ^🔗	winr4r	i'm out now, catch you all later some time :)
18:40 ^🔗	SketchCow	I'm trying to write a splinder-combiner.
18:42 ^🔗	Coderjoe	mm
18:42 ^🔗	Coderjoe	the s3 endpoint seems to have broken on me
18:47 ^🔗	SketchCow	Operations will happen on us/u...
18:47 ^🔗	SketchCow	root@teamarchive-1:/2/BATCAVE2/SPLINDER# sh chokeabitch splinder-11 us/u
18:47 ^🔗	SketchCow	Already a ug in /splinder/us/u. We have to go DEEPER.
18:47 ^🔗	SketchCow	Surprising! There is no /splinder/us/u/ud
18:47 ^🔗	SketchCow	Surprising! There is no /splinder/us/u/ue
18:47 ^🔗	SketchCow	Already a uh in /splinder/us/u. We have to go DEEPER.
18:47 ^🔗	SketchCow	Why call it "chokeabitch"? I honestly don't know.
18:47 ^🔗	yipdw	make sure you don't miss any spaces in your paths
18:48 ^🔗	SketchCow	Oh, I always quote out to shit.
18:48 ^🔗	yipdw	or rather, don't introduce any that shouldn't be there
18:48 ^🔗	SketchCow	Chokeabitch is basically looking at this massive set of 20+ directories from people.
18:49 ^🔗	SketchCow	And then I am basically going through, saying "anything not on this one, move over there"
18:49 ^🔗	SketchCow	It's just helping me. I can't do some sort of major thing because one mistake wipes shit out.
18:50 ^🔗	yipdw	hm
18:50 ^🔗	yipdw	I wish I had several dozen TB to play with a replicable database of ArchiveTeam panic grabs
18:50 ^🔗	yipdw	throw shit in CouchDB and see what happens
18:50 ^🔗	yipdw	no idea why that would be good or what it would do
18:51 ^🔗	yipdw	but throwing massive amounts of shit around is always hilarious, or at least monkeys seem to think that
18:51 ^🔗	SketchCow	if [ ! -d "/2/BATCAVE2/SPLINDER/splinder/$CHECKA" ] then echo "Woah, nelly. There isn't a $CHECKA in the main file. Go up a level." exit 1
18:51 ^🔗	SketchCow	fi
18:51 ^🔗	SketchCow	That's the line - if there's no main directory to put it TO, then stop.
18:52 ^🔗	SketchCow	So if I shove us/u/uk/uka into the main one, and the main one only has /us/u and no /us/u/uk, it'll stop.
18:53 ^🔗	SketchCow	Woah, nelly. There isn't a us/u/ui in the main file. Go up a level.
18:53 ^🔗	SketchCow	root@teamarchive-1:/2/BATCAVE2/SPLINDER# sh chokeabitch splinder-11 us/u/ui
18:53 ^🔗	SketchCow	see?
18:53 ^🔗	SketchCow	here is what I have learned the hard way 100 times
18:53 ^🔗	SketchCow	Never put a cd .. in a bash script
18:54 ^🔗	SketchCow	If you do, you are a wearing a big clown suit and you are jumping into a fire
18:54 ^🔗	SketchCow	You will be a burning clown.
18:54 ^🔗	Wyatt	That sounds like an adequate assessment
18:56 ^🔗	SketchCow	here we go.
18:56 ^🔗	SketchCow	Already a ug in /splinder/us/u. We have to go DEEPER.
18:56 ^🔗	SketchCow	Moving ud to /splinder/us/u/ud
18:56 ^🔗	SketchCow	Moving ue to /splinder/us/u/ue
18:56 ^🔗	SketchCow	Operations will happen on us/u...
18:56 ^🔗	SketchCow	root@teamarchive-1:/2/BATCAVE2/SPLINDER# sh chokeabitch splinder-11 us/u
18:56 ^🔗	SketchCow	Already a uh in /splinder/us/u. We have to go DEEPER.
18:56 ^🔗	SketchCow	Second run.
18:56 ^🔗	SketchCow	Already a ug in /splinder/us/u. We have to go DEEPER.
18:56 ^🔗	SketchCow	Already a uh in /splinder/us/u. We have to go DEEPER.
18:56 ^🔗	SketchCow	Operations will happen on us/u...
18:56 ^🔗	SketchCow	root@teamarchive-1:/2/BATCAVE2/SPLINDER# sh chokeabitch splinder-11 us/u
18:56 ^🔗	SketchCow	And there we have it.
18:59 ^🔗	SketchCow	So, here is an AWESOME WAY TO WRITE DOCS
19:00 ^🔗	SketchCow	It's a very subtle one.
19:00 ^🔗	SketchCow	After I move the directory's contents, I should do a "what the fuck" and remove the parent IF I've moved all the directories in that parent away
19:00 ^🔗	SketchCow	i.e. so you move f/file1 and f/file2, what the fuck, do a rmdir on f, see if that thing's done.
19:00 ^🔗	SketchCow	But like all sane people, I hate 1,000 "directory not empty" errors.
19:01 ^🔗	SketchCow	Turns out, there's a feature in gnu for that.
19:01 ^🔗	SketchCow	--ignore-fail-on-non-empty
19:01 ^🔗	SketchCow	BUT, here's the description.
19:01 ^🔗	SketchCow	ignore each failure that is solely because a directory is non-empty
19:01 ^🔗	SketchCow	SO.
19:01 ^🔗	SketchCow	Does this mean "Just don't print the failure you couldn't remove it?"
19:02 ^🔗	SketchCow	or does it mean "Don't let the fact it's not empty stop you from removing it?"
19:02 ^🔗	SketchCow	Now, I just ran some tests. It means the first.
19:02 ^🔗	SketchCow	But holy crap would you have been sad if it was the second.
19:11 ^🔗	chronomex	11:54:19 <@SketchCow> Never put a cd .. in a bash script
19:11 ^🔗	chronomex	how about pushd?
19:12 ^🔗	SketchCow	WITCH
19:12 ^🔗	*	chronomex burns quietly
19:12 ^🔗	SketchCow	Put on the clown suit
19:12 ^🔗	SketchCow	OK, running a script now.
19:13 ^🔗	SketchCow	It's now doing, oh, a week of work in an hour.
19:15 ^🔗	SketchCow	So that's good.
19:20 ^🔗	chronomex	work /= 40;
19:21 ^🔗	chronomex	:D
19:29 ^🔗	SketchCow	Moving sak to /splinder/it/s/sa/sak
19:29 ^🔗	SketchCow	Moving sao to /splinder/it/s/sa/sao
19:29 ^🔗	SketchCow	Moving sap to /splinder/it/s/sa/sap
19:29 ^🔗	SketchCow	Moving sau to /splinder/it/s/sa/sau
19:29 ^🔗	SketchCow	Moving say to /splinder/it/s/sa/say
19:29 ^🔗	SketchCow	Six billion of those.
19:39 ^🔗	SketchCow	S3 just broke
19:39 ^🔗	SketchCow	I don't know what that does to our uploads.
19:39 ^🔗	SketchCow	Do we have error checking for it?
19:41 ^🔗	Wyatt	Doesn't curl do that?
19:42 ^🔗	chronomex	but does our script work properly with s3 down?
19:43 ^🔗	Wyatt	I would expect it to fail to upload anything and go to the retry loop, but I'm probably missing some nuance of how S3 plays into the equation.
20:09 ^🔗	SketchCow	the history of computers is "I would expect it to .... aaaaaaaa"
20:11 ^🔗	Nemo_bis	Wyatt, I seriously doubt it does so.
20:12 ^🔗	Nemo_bis	When pload fails, it throws a completely useless HTML (!) error to the log.
20:13 ^🔗	emijrp	so, when i build an URL like this http://liveweb.archive.org/http://coolsite.com I'm adding the site to the WayBack machine? how cool is it?
20:22 ^🔗	emijrp	Page cannot be crawled or displayed due to robots.txt.
20:22 ^🔗	emijrp	"or displayed"
20:23 ^🔗	emijrp	is that a trick by IA to archive and not show?
20:23 ^🔗	emijrp	lol
20:23 ^🔗	chronomex	well
20:23 ^🔗	chronomex	if they have saved stuff and you change your robots.txt to say "don't crawl this"
20:23 ^🔗	chronomex	they'll stop displaying it retroactively, but they won't delete what they have
20:24 ^🔗	chronomex	so it's actually laziness, so they don't have to look and see if they have anything for it
21:52 ^🔗	underscor	SketchCow: what's this bash project you were talking about yesterday?
22:00 ^🔗	SketchCow	Not yours
22:01 ^🔗	shaqfu	SketchCow: I've got plenty of time now; whatcha need?
22:28 ^🔗	SketchCow	OK.
22:28 ^🔗	SketchCow	Here's it in basic.
22:29 ^🔗	SketchCow	Right now, we have these .ISO files.
22:29 ^🔗	SketchCow	In the CDBBS section.
22:29 ^🔗	SketchCow	What I would love is to make an HTML file.
22:29 ^🔗	SketchCow	This file would be generated from the ISO files.
22:29 ^🔗	SketchCow	If a HTML file has a files.bbs paradigm, generate an HTML that can be clicked on
22:29 ^🔗	SketchCow	This would then go to the download link for the exact files.
22:30 ^🔗	SketchCow	this needs more explanation.
22:32 ^🔗	Nemo_bis	An HTML placed as description of the item? OR as embedded file?
22:37 ^🔗	SketchCow	Ideally, there will be a file in the item.
22:37 ^🔗	SketchCow	You click on it and it gives you a listing. Let me find an example.
22:38 ^🔗	SketchCow	http://archive.org/details/BestOfMegaGamesForDOS
22:38 ^🔗	SketchCow	Poor example. One moment.
22:40 ^🔗	shaqfu	So HTML ToCs for the ISOs
22:40 ^🔗	SketchCow	OK, I need a moment.
22:40 ^🔗	SketchCow	More than that.
22:40 ^🔗	SketchCow	There are, often, FILES.BBS files on the disk.
22:40 ^🔗	SketchCow	So descriptive listings could be had.
22:40 ^🔗	SketchCow	And then they link back to the permanent URLs.
22:41 ^🔗	shaqfu	Are there permanent URLs for internal files? I'm just seeing links to the .iso
22:41 ^🔗	SketchCow	Wow, I didn't realize it'd get crazy.
22:41 ^🔗	SketchCow	yes there are.
22:41 ^🔗	SketchCow	http://archive.org/download/cdrom-pcsig12/pc-siglibrary12thedition1993.iso/RUN%2FFASTYPE%2FREADME.TXT
22:42 ^🔗	SketchCow	Tah day
22:44 ^🔗	shaqfu	Ah, clever
22:44 ^🔗	SketchCow	Yes, it's nice.
22:44 ^🔗	SketchCow	And underutilized.
22:44 ^🔗	SketchCow	But wow, I didn't realize we really have that huge shitpile there.
22:45 ^🔗	SketchCow	I mean, it's GREAT
22:45 ^🔗	SketchCow	but discovery is awful
22:45 ^🔗	SketchCow	I have to think more.

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