[00:34] I'm adding a new IUMA track every 20 seconds. [01:21] SketchCow: Impressive rate! [01:23] nitro2k01: that's a lot of photos! [01:26] Well goddamn. The Kickstarter for BronyCon: The Documentary just broke $40k in a little over a day. [01:26] I, um. [01:29] hahahahahahahha john delancey [01:29] Fuck, dude, John D. and ANYTHING == success [01:29] I'd have him narrate my funeral if I could [01:32] The executive producer emailed me to say he was talking to John and the idea came up [01:32] I went to the staff, we checked his IMDB, and it was kind of like "this is going to suck" [01:33] ... then John asks me to call him, and tells me that these guys are legit [01:33] So the project was born! [01:33] So you're in on this thing? [01:34] "For the documentary: Executive producers are Michael Brockhoff and John de Lancie (the voice of Discord on MLP), Director is Laurent Malaquais and Consulting Producer is Andrew Brockert." [01:34] Last name's me. [01:34] CP [01:34] (I'm also the con chair, so that's why) [01:34] If you need tons of advice, let me know [01:35] You're the con chair of Bronycon? [01:35] Well, I already got a lot of your spiel when working with on Dean's documentary project :) [01:35] Aye [01:35] s/with on/on/ [01:35] Were you one of the dean kids? [01:36] Sorry if I sound like Jack Lemmon shifting in his chair here [01:37] Yep, worked on the interview with... crap, forgetting his name. Guy from Infocom, invented Invisiclues, was COO of Harmonix when we interviewed him... Dornbrook! That's the one. [01:37] Moriarty [01:37] Dornbrook! [01:37] Were you the set with the bitter girl? [01:37] I think you were [01:37] YES [01:37] I only did a few of those little classes [01:37] I dated her for a couple of weeks, incidentally. That didn't end too well. [01:38] I did plenty of that [01:38] Dating her, I mean [01:38] Well, maybe there was another bitter girl. I can't say for sure. [01:38] No, no. [01:38] Unless all of the other groups were sausagefests. [01:38] The one who I said obviously hated her dad [01:38] I used to love telling that story to people [01:38] That I sussed she hated her dad from the interview footage [01:39] I tell you, John De Lancie is perfect [01:39] I just flung $50 at it [01:39] I love $150 + "Special Hat!!!" = $500 [01:39] Oh, right, her dad's a hippie. Yeah, she's probably the one. [01:39] Bronies are insane, man. Don't look at me here. [01:40] I would have done the reward levels differently, but damn if it isn't effective [01:40] I learned about it an odd way [01:40] I was driving up from Santa Cruz with underscor when he was out in CA last year [01:40] OH P.S. [01:40] INTERNET ARCHIVE SORT OF HIRED UNDERSCOR [01:40] So congratulate that little fuck all around [01:40] slave wages but still wages [01:41] Anyway [01:41] I was driving up from Santa Cruz with underscor when he was out in CA last year [01:41] And they played the pinkie pie nightmare song [01:42] And I thought "ok, this is like 'The Playground', a show from my old college that played kids records" [01:42] And then they played some crazy hip-hopped up remix of it [01:42] And then the guy was talking about the show [01:42] And I was all "what is THIS sit" [01:42] shit [01:42] So there was that for me. [01:43] I'm the one that introduced MLP footage into MC Frontalot's act for the current round. [01:43] Excellent. [01:44] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcPelahzTQc [01:44] There's him doing his robot act (the one without the backing band) but you can see the footage I put together [01:46] Furry Brony costumes at 1:20 [01:47] Anyway, that documentary is going to have INSANE funding at this rate. [01:47] Any plans for when you hit 100k? [01:47] when [01:49] Man, I don't even know. There are other cons that might be great to capture. There's also a ton of love for charity in the community, so something in the charitable direction would be cool. [01:57] Zebranky: canadacosplay.com would make for some cool hats [02:01] SketchCow: I remember that song! [02:01] That was the best song [02:01] and then we listened to TAL [02:01] Fuck, that was the best trip of my life :D [02:01] Also, nice topic :D [02:37] congrats underscor [02:37] danke [02:40] so what do you plan to blow your money on? [02:40] college [02:40] it's all for college [02:40] I'm still 10k short for freshman year, actually [02:40] but this will definitely help [02:41] Which college again? Rochester? [02:41] what's your degree? [02:41] Rochester Institute of Technology [02:41] Why not take a year off and go a year later? [02:42] Raise some proper cash, etc [02:42] "applied netwroking and systems administration" [02:42] I've been thinking about that, but I really don't know if I want to [02:42] A year to get perspective? What does it hurt, in the long run? [02:42] Every adult I've talked to (besides Jason) has said they think it's a bad idea [02:42] You've hung with me for a week, that's like 10 lives right there. [02:42] hahahaha [02:42] Every adult is an idiot. [02:43] this isn't fucking 1958 [02:43] * SketchCow cuts underscor from his support network to fill his head with lies [02:43] :D [02:44] Alex Buie Thanks! I'm looking at $44k/year -> $21k from working at archive.org -> $4k finaid from RIT -> $5.5k in student loans -> $3.5k from parents, which leaves $10k to find from other sources [02:44] April 30 at 10:20pm Â· Like [02:44] https://twitter.com/#!/textfiles/status/202590457941868544 [02:44] Let's see what the internet says [02:44] RAISED BY THE INTERNET [02:44] New reality show [02:44] ha [02:44] let's see :D [02:44] thanks for that [02:44] I'm excited [02:45] Jesus, $3.5k? [02:45] What, they decided against ordering a second pizza? [02:45] I had a hard enough fucking time convincing my dad of that much [02:45] and it's only because he's getting a tax deduction [02:45] hhahahah [02:45] THE LAST DEDUCTION [02:46] p much [02:46] $3.5 is awful [02:46] My dad paid my education with credit card charges [02:46] he was basically like "Don't expect me to pay one sent for your education. you should go into the military like I did, get a man's job" [02:46] s/sent/cent/ [02:46] I mean, he did one-month balance carry. [02:47] He'd charge, then immediately pay it off. [02:47] ah [02:47] $20k a year, four years! [02:47] His credit rating went to "fucking insane" [02:47] hahahaha [02:47] That's why he did it. [02:47] I have no student loans, I am very pleased about that. [02:47] see, it's a quandary, because my mom really wants to see me go to school and do this thing [02:47] but she's stay at home [02:47] But that's my dad's generousity. [02:47] so she has no credit to even cosign a loan [02:48] Who thinks you shouldn't take a year off? [02:48] and my dad's like "FUCK YOUUUUUUUUU EDUCATION" [02:49] Uh, lots of people. Literally everyone at the archive (sans you), all my teachers/guidance counselor/anger management counselor/principal/school people, all my adult friends (again, sans you) [02:49] ha ha [02:49] EVERYBODY IS WRONG EXCEPT FOR ME [02:49] :D [02:50] http://ask.metafilter.com/25004/Taking-a-year-off-from-college [02:50] you could go crazy searching for grants & scholarships- when I was looking at schools, I remember there being a bunch of books and stuff on going to college for free- just stack up enough grants/scholarships/etc [02:51] yeah, I've been looking at that [02:52] if you're fairly certain you won't move out of your home state afterwards, you could look into ones that pay for stuff and in exchange you'll get a job in the field in your state, and stay employed for as many semesters as you got money from them [02:52] Watch this simple educational film, underscor: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtIM_TEQxwA [02:54] SketchCow: :o [02:55] underscor: Would you be working at IA year-round remotely, or there for summers/breaks, if you went to RIT? [02:55] Full time this summer, 10h/week during school [02:56] to be reevaluated at the end of the year [02:57] SketchCow: You post false info to wikipedia?! [02:57] !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [02:58] Remember the magic weapon: Hotel Wi-fi [02:58] underscor: Hm, and 40/wk if you take the gap? [03:00] found out that avsim.com was hacked [03:01] both the site and backup are gone [03:02] Part of me says to take it while you're in, but another part says to wait, work for a year, and apply as the most baller 19 year old on the planet [03:04] The answers are piling in. [03:05] forget about avism.com hack [03:06] loooks like it happened in 2009 [03:06] 3 years today [03:09] Shaqfu: takr the gap? [03:09] Take* [03:10] Thing is, no matter what, you're coming out of school in debt. Welcome to America in 2012-2016 [03:11] $44k/yr seems severe, though [03:12] Yeah. Also, archive doesn't want me more than part time during the year regardless, so evem if I hold off, I'll be looking for other jobs. [03:13] Follower is flipping out because I said I add false information to Wikipedia. [03:13] I would say if I had a boring regular highschool, I wouldn't mind taking off. But my school is already kinda like college, and I really want to continue that on. [03:13] Oh, it's adorable! [03:13] Why RIT versus state school in VA? [03:13] SketchCow: hahahaha [03:14] I liked RIT more than any others I toured. [03:14] Where'd you get accepted into? [03:14] All the instate schools were meh, RIT had me longing for the fall [03:15] Only RIT. Only place I applied for fall semester [03:15] (yeah, I know, slightly unusual) [03:19] > Similar to Jason Scott [03:19] > @angermonkey [03:19] Hahaha [03:20] RIT sends out pretty snail mail too. [03:21] underscor: Hm, that kinda binds your hands, so to speak. If your heart's set on it, go for it - you'd come out "only" $50k under [03:21] The answers are now pouring in [03:21] https://twitter.com/#!/search/realtime/%40textfiles [03:21] aggro: haha [03:21] Jesus Christ what is wrong with this universe that a kid making $21k/yr comes out $50k in debt [03:23] I just need to find 2500 people to loan me $4 a year [03:24] Kickstarter time! "Send underscor to school" [03:24] Hahahahaha [03:24] 19:47:05 < underscor> he was basically like "Don't expect me to pay one sent for your education. you should go into the military like I did, get a man's job" [03:24] wat, underscor in the army [03:24] I thought about that, but what would I reward with? [03:24] Strapping muscles and a free education [03:25] chronomex: yeah, that's what I said [03:25] wat wat wat [03:26] I'm surprised there's not a peer-to-peer college lending site like prosper [03:26] Maybe I should start it [03:26] and get $$rich$$ [03:27] Well, at least 10k would be nice [03:27] lol [03:28] why not shoot for the stars [03:28] make a million bucks on kickstarter [03:29] or whatever [03:29] figure out a way to paint internet ads in all the wrong places [03:29] Slip ads into archive.org materials for kickbacks [03:30] Make money and be the scummiest man alive [03:31] probably not a whole pile of money [03:31] but not none! [03:32] 05/15/12 23:10:51 < shaqfu> Thing is, no matter what, you're coming out of school in debt. Welcome to America in 2012-2016 [03:32] wrong. [03:33] you can choose for that not to be your outcome. [03:33] Brainstorming at internet archive channel underscor is not on is if you come work at the archive, establish residency, you could join the UC university system. [03:34] the UC system is very nice. [03:34] I was wondering about that - why not go to somewhere near SF [03:34] http://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/admissions/paying-for-uc/cost/index.html [03:34] $31k in-state at a state school? Good god [03:35] christ on a popsicle stick indeed [03:35] wow really? [03:35] No, re-read [03:35] That's $17k [03:35] 17k is still high imo [03:35] I graduated after 5 years of school with $9k in debt [03:35] \o/ [03:35] For Claifornia? [03:35] I graduated with no undergraduate debt. [03:35] skfjsklfjsfdf [03:35] Cal;fifporrpn? [03:35] yes, cal;fifporrpn. [03:35] You people have no idea what california costs [03:36] That place is craaaaaaaaaaaaaaay [03:36] there are many things I am thankful for [03:36] not living in california is one of them [03:36] California-resident undergraduates at all UC campuses pay the same $12,192 in systemwide tuition and fees for 2011-12. [03:37] That's pretty reasonable. [03:37] imo [03:37] For annual, that's very reasonable [03:37] http://www.suny.edu/student/paying_tuition.cfm [03:37] Ny is $5,270 [03:37] But you're in outer bumfuckia [03:37] yeah I am a suny alum [03:38] and people still complain very loudly about tuition expense [03:38] whine whine whine [03:38] it's not free! [03:38] they're not paying me and blowing sunshine up my ass every day I show up! [03:38] and so many kids choose majors that might personally enrich them but not provide them with any skills [03:39] and so they graduate and wonder why noboy is paying them $150k [03:39] nobody [03:39] I think that underscor is a tremendously talented person and that he will get the same outcome from RIT or UC or SUNY or anywhere else he goes [03:40] (except for the debt outcome of course) [03:40] I almost want to say to take the gap just to reapply to more schools [03:40] yes. [03:41] And Christ, if you work at IA out of high school, univ is almost a formality [03:41] that's my opinion too, and the gap year will be rewarding and I believe fully that he won't waste away and atrophy his brain in that year [03:41] so there is no risk [03:41] you can even defer your RIT admission if you want that as a safety net [03:41] (I deferred mine without any issue) [03:42] OH HERE IT COMES [03:42] THE LETTER [03:42] what [03:43] Since you have avowed to the wikipedia falsification repeatedly, [03:43] and denied that you are joking, you now put me in the awkward [03:43] position of now being morally obligated to try to prevent the [03:43] dissemination of the now-less-trustworthy-than-average information [03:43] you gather and archive. [03:43] This is not a role or position I have any desire or interest in [03:43] taking on, hence my extreme disturbance. [03:43] ...what [03:43] morally obligated! [03:43] you heard the man [03:43] Aren't people adorable? [03:43] I want to collect them all. [03:44] what did I miss [03:44] I said I add fake information to Wikipedia. [03:44] Which I do. [03:44] Fake books, fake diseases, fake facts. [03:44] fakkkkkeeeeee [03:44] what does he say he's going to do now [03:45] "try to prevent the dissemination of the now-less-trustworthy-than-average information you gather and archive" [03:45] but HOW [03:45] 120TB of LIES uploaded last year [03:45] will he show up at your house and unplug the internet [03:45] I suppose he could try and get me fired from the archive [03:45] who is this guy [03:46] mad, mad about wikipedia [03:46] At which point, in a meeting, I would say that I swear I have never knowingly uploaded false or misleading information to the archive or falsified its provenance, etc. [03:46] Which, you know, I wouldn't, since they pay me (as well as I stake my name on the material). [03:46] Nothing I've written as myself on wikipedia is false, either. [03:46] but what if... you take a backup of wikipedia [03:47] WHATNOW SketchCow [03:47] Oh god, it's a wikipedia of wikipedias, each wikipedia falsifying the previous wikipedia [03:47] 20:47:12 <@SketchCow> Which, you know, I wouldn't, since they pay me (as well as I stake my name on the material). [03:47] Wikipedias all the way down. [03:47] plus you've upload so much crap that falsifying anything would take too long [03:47] Yeah, it'd get boring [03:47] I'd have to script it. [03:48] cat * | sed 's/drawers/carrots/g' [03:48] this will pay off [03:48] eventually [03:48] somehow [03:48] * SketchCow sits in his mansion by the lake, sadly looking at a scrawled letter: "I KNOW ABOUT THE CARROTS" [03:48] haha [03:49] * SketchCow looks out over the lake with a tear, and calls for the gun [03:49] Wilson, bring me my firearm [03:49] Wilson, I was good, wasn't I? I was good. [03:49] The Tell-Tale Wikipedia Falsification, by Jason Scott [03:50] ha ha, he's writing more [03:50] He's quoting lines I've said before [03:52] Ach, it's already boring [03:53] I LOVE when people devise my moral code, its proper expression and its parameters! [03:53] This one was just funnier because he framed it as if I was a renegade cop and he was once my partner, now tasked with bringing me down. [03:55] While he rants at me about his moral obligation and his horror in my being so cavalier with the truth, all I hear is this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYHxaPWzae8 [03:55] Life's a lot easier when you replace the rants with soundtracks. [03:55] ahahaha [03:57] now I'm going to hear this music when people are annoying me at work [03:57] "Oh, no, I'm listening." [03:58] Catch the beautiful high notes it plinks in at 4:10 [03:59] That's for when they're waving their first. [03:59] fist [03:59] You know, life is so so short. [04:00] I'm sorry that adding fake books to Wikipedia from hotel wifi somehow undoes, say, this IUMA revival effort in some minds. [04:00] But did you see how overjoyed Nullsleep was today? [04:01] I was able to bring back a life performance, one of his very first, that he thought he'd lost forever. [04:03] I posit that someone who truthfully avows to falsifying information [04:03] guilty, but they may not; the former person explicitly is. In a statistical [04:03] on wikipedia has declared himself less trustworthy than someone [04:03] who has not so avowed. (The latter person may indeed be equally [04:03] or probabilistic sense, the former is less trustworthy.) [04:03] That is to say, if you believe that it is both morally acceptable [04:03] and in some way beneficial (e.g. "fun") to post false information [04:03] to wikipedia, then there is little reason to believe you would not [04:03] find it morally acceptable and beneficial to falsify information [04:03] that you gather in your archivist role. [04:03] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYHxaPWzae8 [04:03] :) [04:05] http://www.thehackley.org/viewer/?nam=Such+is+life+%3A+rag+fox+trot&im1=1&imN=6&img=0003&ext=.jpg&url=http://www.thehackley.org//dplhacsm/display/dpl-hac-12157- [04:06] good lord, my eyes glazed over reading that [04:07] and I think he meant i.e. and not e.g. [04:07] I guess either kind of works there, depends on his intent [04:08] the guy is crazy; the best way to deal with crazy is to overlook the grammatical infelicities and go back to your beer [04:09] as if I stopped drinking my beer [04:10] trudat [04:51] scrollback catchup: RIT grad here, if you've any questions underscor (art student though). [04:53] We show that you maintain or have maintained an official blog on StarWars.com as a feature of your Hyperspace membership. As Hyperspace services officially ended as of December 31, 2011, we wanted to give you the opportunity to retrieve whatever content you have posted to your official StarWars.com Blog before they are completely retired in 7 days. [04:56] http://gizmodo.com/5910223/how-yahoo-killed-flickr-and-lost-the-internet [05:06] 7 days? [05:13] SketchCow: Drama!? In MY interwebs?! Unheard of! [05:41] A LOT of people want underscor to take a year off. [06:00] it is quite common for people that fully intend to go to college after a year off to never return to school. [06:00] i didn't take a year off. [06:01] took me NINE years to finish undergrad but I DID IT! [06:01] and i think it was totally worth it [06:01] I did it in eight and I'm making the smuggest face at you right now [06:02] to be fair that includes like 2 years off and a bunch of part time semesters and I got two undergrad degrees [06:02] and I'm still in school [06:02] * dnova cries [06:41] lol @ the wikipedia falsification [06:42] my favourite thing about wikipedia was writing stuff on obscure subjects, then that getting picked up by about two million spam scraper sites, which made further online research on the subject impossible [06:43] what made it more awesome was that it showed up in google book search as well [06:43] wikipedia spam goes IRL [06:44] SketchCow: so, i want to tar up these screenshots for you now, and your idea of multiple zip files made me think [06:45] it seems to me that someone either wants either a) no fortunecity screenshots b) all the fortunecity screenshots [06:46] i mean there's not a lot of middle ground there, so i wonder if it'd be better to have one big zip/tar rather than lots of little ones [06:47] it's doubtless easier to make one gigantor archive than it is to split them [06:51] Agreed [06:51] Unless we get past the 50gb range. [06:51] SketchCow: it's only about a gigabyte and a half [06:51] I'm flying to detroit next week!! [06:52] sweet [06:53] don't forget to take your wings! [06:53] http://www.merit.edu/events/mmc/ [06:54] Now, I really need to sit down and figure out encoding. [06:54] I am pulling this data from a page, and it goes into s3 and barfs. [06:57] I'm now trying iconv [06:57] SketchCow: all tarred up now, how do i get these to you? [06:57] So, you have a directory on fos. [06:57] It's full of screenshots, by the way. [06:58] yes it is [06:58] iconv is relative wni [06:58] win [06:58] I'm having MAJOR trouble getting this to work. [06:59] I can't concentrate TOO much on it, but I'd like to stop babying the IUMA import. [06:59] anything I can help with? [07:00] SketchCow: can i scp to fos? [07:00] (call me supernoob, but i actually don't know how to rsync a single file rather than a directory) [07:01] you just name the file, rather than the directory [07:02] ah okay [07:03] they're on the way! :D [07:03] rsync is tits [07:04] http://www.aadl.org/events/list?id=14190 [07:06] SketchCow: awesome [07:09] 7 minutes left [07:09] i am going to make a very unhealthy breakfast while it copies [07:09] brb [07:09] breakfast? at this hour? [07:09] He's in London [07:10] Bitch, he got a whole life outside you [07:10] 8am?!? [07:10] wtf is wrong with you winr4r [07:12] Well thank goodness my well-late booking isn't too bad [07:18] It's freggin' 9am people ;o [07:18] screw you, time! [07:20] | iconv -f LATIN1 -t ASCII//TRANSLIT ` [07:20] Doesn't do what I need. [07:25] SketchCow: they're copied, fortunecity-screenshots.tar :) [07:26] chronomex: i know, what the fuck was i thinking by eating breakfast in the morning [07:29] moas [07:29] mostly I'm bamboozled by you being awake at that ridiculous hour [07:29] Ok, with the encoding fixed, the fun begins. [07:34] ....aaaand there we go, we just added 1,000 IUMA albums. [07:34]