#archiveteam 2012-05-28,Mon

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00:34 πŸ”— Coderjoe http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykgYj0VaoHY
00:41 πŸ”— undersco2 http://i.imgur.com/K2Fvd.jpg
00:52 πŸ”— su_ :|
00:52 πŸ”— su_ is it just me or does a lot of the efnet server ssuck
00:53 πŸ”— su_ though it could just be the servers i connect through
00:53 πŸ”— su_ oh, crap.. i've been connecting to CA regions, thinking it was California
00:53 πŸ”— su_ haha, FAIL
00:57 πŸ”— SketchCow Doh, Canada
00:59 πŸ”— closure_ wait, California is not its own country?
00:59 πŸ”— * closure_ checks his passport for stamps
01:12 πŸ”— su_ running archiveteam warrior
01:12 πŸ”— su_ its p cool!
01:13 πŸ”— Swizzle That must be a new program or did I miss it's anouncement? I haven't heard of it before today
01:13 πŸ”— su_ check the /topic
01:13 πŸ”— su_ its a virtual machine that you run :)
01:14 πŸ”— Swizzle Yea - I saw that. What I mean is it's a new thing? First I heard of it was when I logged in
01:15 πŸ”— bsmith094 does it seesaw?
01:17 πŸ”— su_ it seems to connect to a server that tells you what to download
01:43 πŸ”— godane SketchCow: good.net is closing
01:45 πŸ”— SketchCow Yeah
01:46 πŸ”— Swizzle good.net? Never heard of it...
01:47 πŸ”— godane it use to not need user login
01:47 πŸ”— godane but now it does
01:49 πŸ”— godane like this has a lot of hacker cons stuff: http://good.net/dl/bd/
02:09 πŸ”— SketchCow Yeah
02:09 πŸ”— SketchCow Good to know, especially since I've been downloading there for 13 hours.
02:24 πŸ”— su_ what's good.net?
02:24 πŸ”— su_ what's their purpose, etc
02:25 πŸ”— su_ wow
02:25 πŸ”— su_ MobileMe? ~200TB?
02:26 πŸ”— su_ has that been updated lately?
02:26 πŸ”— su_ http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Projects
02:38 πŸ”— SketchCow Someone sent me a fantastic project plan for downloading Reddit.
02:38 πŸ”— SketchCow I asked him to come here, his name is "BP".
02:38 πŸ”— SketchCow Could use a project channel and project page.
02:40 πŸ”— su_ at-redd.it
02:40 πŸ”— su_ i'll get the domai
02:40 πŸ”— su_ n
02:40 πŸ”— SketchCow 43,000 songs!
02:40 πŸ”— SketchCow I mean artists!
02:40 πŸ”— SketchCow 3,000 artists added today. A good day.
02:40 πŸ”— su_ at-redd.it -> 12 EUR
02:40 πŸ”— su_ not bad
02:40 πŸ”— SketchCow Trying to put it to bed so I can moe to the next bit.
02:45 πŸ”— SketchCow Now that archive.org can read CBRs and CBZs, I just need to do a Great Renaming and shove those suckers right into the mess.
02:47 πŸ”— SketchCow OOOOOOO canned_beats IS NEWWWWWWW
02:47 πŸ”— SketchCow >> Canned_Beats
02:47 πŸ”— SketchCow Description ends at line 4...
02:47 πŸ”— SketchCow Description starts at line 410...
02:47 πŸ”— SketchCow We make it a pretty princess. canned_beats
02:47 πŸ”— SketchCow Princess looks so ugly when she cries. No mp3s for canned_beats
02:48 πŸ”— SketchCow I've got 8 windows open doing things like that.
02:59 πŸ”— winr4r good morning
02:59 πŸ”— winr4r two hours of sleep = enough for anyone
03:00 πŸ”— SketchCow Yeah, fuck sleep
03:00 πŸ”— SketchCow Good for one thing: Dying in it.
03:00 πŸ”— SketchCow Hey, who's up and around?
03:01 πŸ”— winr4r haha
03:13 πŸ”— S[h]O[r]T herro
03:16 πŸ”— SketchCow What is UP with that nick, anyway.
03:17 πŸ”— S[h]O[r]T it makes me special and stand out
03:17 πŸ”— SketchCow It does do that.
03:19 πŸ”— undersco2 I'm up and around
03:19 πŸ”— undersco2 :D
03:19 πŸ”— undersco2 also covered in blisters :(
03:21 πŸ”— SketchCow Dude, slow down on the jerking
03:21 πŸ”— undersco2 hahahahaha
03:21 πŸ”— undersco2 POWERJERK
03:22 πŸ”— undersco2 actually they're sun blisters, all over my shoulders :(
03:22 πŸ”— undersco2 err
03:22 πŸ”— SketchCow http://www.radishes.org/leisuretown/library/csj/index.html
03:23 πŸ”— SketchCow No, don't do that.
03:23 πŸ”— undersco2 aww
03:23 πŸ”— undersco2 too long
03:23 πŸ”— SketchCow Go read that radishes link and giggle to yourself but again - off to -bs
03:40 πŸ”— SketchCow I've been musing about some sort of Archive Team Con
03:40 πŸ”— SketchCow I could host the day stuff at Internet Archive, upstairs, I'd be allowed to do it, with warning.
03:40 πŸ”— SketchCow Hackathon, presentations, etc.
03:49 πŸ”— undersco2 That would be really neat.
03:49 πŸ”— undersco2 Have a panel on "How to shut down"
03:49 πŸ”— undersco2 and invite the yahoo execs
03:52 πŸ”— DFJustin will there be cosplay
03:52 πŸ”— SketchCow Of course there will be cosplay
03:52 πŸ”— SketchCow Maybe some live band whose music we saved
03:52 πŸ”— undersco2 I want to cosplay SketchCow
04:56 πŸ”— SketchCow Flight is now landing.
04:56 πŸ”— SketchCow Let's make this a fun week for archiving. I'm right in the heart of the beast.
04:56 πŸ”— SketchCow Ah, the day job.
05:28 πŸ”— Coderjoe My name is Inigo Montoya. You deleted my data. Prepare to die.
06:29 πŸ”— S[h]O[r]T what if everyone cosplayed SketchCow and it was a room full of them!
06:30 πŸ”— S[h]O[r]T and what if anonymous wore SketchCow masks instead of guy fawkes
06:30 πŸ”— Aranje How would they replicate his beard? How do you stylize such a thing?
06:31 πŸ”— su_ people would kill themselves immediately after becoming fully replicated
06:31 πŸ”— su_ kidding, lol. ...
06:34 πŸ”— S[h]O[r]T haha
06:34 πŸ”— S[h]O[r]T http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1/180-1513890-7523916?url=search-alias%3Dapparel&field-keywords=beard
06:34 πŸ”— S[h]O[r]T one of those should work
06:35 πŸ”— S[h]O[r]T probably the lincoln and top hat set is the best choice
06:38 πŸ”— godane SketchCow: Someone took up the task of archiving rev3 finally
06:39 πŸ”— godane it go a lot done in the last month too
06:39 πŸ”— S[h]O[r]T the only good show is the broken
06:39 πŸ”— godane broken h.264 was backed up
06:39 πŸ”— S[h]O[r]T yeah i have the original avis somewhere
06:39 πŸ”— godane http://anarchivism.org/w/Save_Rev3
06:40 πŸ”— S[h]O[r]T nice
06:40 πŸ”— godane its being bought by discoverly so it make since to back up all archived shows first
06:40 πŸ”— godane then the still running shows
06:41 πŸ”— S[h]O[r]T wonder how much rose is going to make
06:42 πŸ”— Moonlit that'll be Famicoman's work
06:42 πŸ”— Moonlit with a little assistance, of course :P
06:43 πŸ”— S[h]O[r]T i still get free pizzas from the info i learned on the broken
06:43 πŸ”— Moonlit lol
06:43 πŸ”— S[h]O[r]T i think ramzi turned out to be one of the 9/11 hijackers
10:33 πŸ”— GLaDOS Achievement get: load http://www.textfiles.com/underconstruction/mail/ without crashing.
10:35 πŸ”— su_ got to a full page load then closed before explosion
10:36 πŸ”— Schbirid 2012-05-28 12:36:22 (345 KB/s) - Γ’Β€Β˜index.htmlҀ™ saved [552717/552717]
10:36 πŸ”— Schbirid i am mr smartypants
10:38 πŸ”— GLaDOS Now download the images!
10:38 πŸ”— GLaDOS --mirror --depth=1
10:38 πŸ”— su_ haahahah ass
10:43 πŸ”— SmileyG hmmm
10:43 πŸ”— SmileyG 1000 2918 3.2 10.9 2460520 1117760 tty1 Sl May09 905:25 /opt/firefox/firefox --sm-config-prefix /firefox-d0NRqQ/ --sm-client-id 286ebca28-3477-4423-b58b-40a76aedc50e --screen 0
10:43 πŸ”— SmileyG yes
10:44 πŸ”— SmileyG firefox upto 2.4gb so far.... and I have ops? o_O?
10:45 πŸ”— SmileyG I've loaded about half that page so fra :)
10:45 πŸ”— SmileyG far*
10:45 πŸ”— * SmileyG goes to -bs to continue to discuss this
11:03 πŸ”— GLaDOS SmileyG: I used to have ops, but then my connection reset!
12:04 πŸ”— Schbirid http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1406227718/archive-a-knowledge-tool-by-the-brooklyn-institute
12:10 πŸ”— Schbirid oh, joeyh is not here anymore?
13:36 πŸ”— lrkj http://torrentfreak.com/i-was-a-member-of-centropy-the-worlds-leading-movie-piracy-group-120526/ the guy is doing a kickstarter
13:55 πŸ”— lrkj about the other scene: https://vimeo.com/40192433
16:14 πŸ”— DrainLbry so AT. my overactive imagingation was thinking: 3d Models. MakerBots, and the like kind of 3d models. Big baddie interests are prone to start shutting these sites down as we're getting below $500 for 3D Printers (Solidoodle). Sites like say this: http://archive3d.net/
16:15 πŸ”— DrainLbry big ole list of similar sites at: http://www.hongkiat.com/blog/60-excellent-free-3d-model-websites/
16:16 πŸ”— DrainLbry any ideas?
16:41 πŸ”— DFJustin leech em and upload em to archive.org
16:41 πŸ”— DFJustin e.g. http://archive.org/details/thingiverse-20110829
16:42 πŸ”— DrainLbry times like this is when i wish i knew even rudimentary scripting
16:42 πŸ”— DrainLbry cause it looks like there'd be a small amoutn of trickery to grab the contents
16:49 πŸ”— Schbirid the grunt work would be first to find out if one can construct download URLs by simply looking at eg file IDs, item URLs and the like
16:49 πŸ”— Schbirid ie if they are generated randomly or not
16:51 πŸ”— DrainLbry archive3d.net looks fairly straightforward, each object is represented by http://archive3d.net/?a=download&do=get&id=XXXXXXXX
16:51 πŸ”— DrainLbry and then download URLs are http://archive3d.net/?a=download&do=get&id=XXXXXXXX , but theres a verification step in there when interactively grabbed
16:52 πŸ”— DrainLbry firing up ole firebug
16:52 πŸ”— DrainLbry meh yeah, the storage URLS are all kinds of randomness it appears
16:52 πŸ”— DrainLbry [12:53:06.136] GET http://storage3d.com/storage/2012.05/5329a7a6f4b6a6216fc4c1466620400d.zip [HTTP/1.1 200 OK 559ms]
16:54 πŸ”— DrainLbry well this isn't good - http://sketchupdate.blogspot.com/2012/04/new-home-for-sketchup.html Google selling SketchUp to Trimble, team leaving. i doubt Google 3D Warehouse is long for this world http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/
16:55 πŸ”— DrainLbry License transferrence detail, licensing reverting to Trimble, trimble to re-license back to Google, users must o-tput
16:55 πŸ”— DrainLbry http://sketchup.google.com/intl/en/usernotice.html
16:56 πŸ”— mistym So, semi-ontopic - http://www.change.org/petitions/make-it-better-write-a-letter-help-save-canada-s-national-archival-development-program
16:56 πŸ”— mistym Not that online petitions are the most productive things, but Canada's archivists can use a show of support.
16:56 πŸ”— DrainLbry So yeah, we may want to look at Google 3D Warehouse
16:59 πŸ”— DrainLbry Collection Example:
16:59 πŸ”— DrainLbry Download URL:
16:59 πŸ”— DrainLbry Leads to Model Detail:
16:59 πŸ”— DrainLbry http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/cldetails?mid=16720b951dd237c849b01c4ab3a844cd&ct=hpr2
16:59 πŸ”— DrainLbry http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=5639162427496fd5ae682533f3f1d4dd
16:59 πŸ”— DrainLbry http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/download?mid=5639162427496fd5ae682533f3f1d4dd&rtyp=s8&fn=Golden_Gate+%281%29&ctyp=other&ts=1310518256000
16:59 πŸ”— DrainLbry Which kicks you over to:
16:59 πŸ”— DrainLbry http://doc-00-9s-3dwarehouse.googleusercontent.com/3dwarehouse/secure/kmhgnuh5h6u91rt8792l7cm2t7hev4k0/bdusj0rp75chn6l5hel737cvtdhudn7m/1338206400000/s8/0400813591974242548656785/5639162427496fd5ae682533f3f1d4dd?ts=1310518256000&fn=Golden_Gate+(1)&ctyp=other&nonce=ksh36tamfnt9m&user=0400813591974242548656785&hash=8phhj862uh21cetgu3dpdbprc5sis6pk
17:02 πŸ”— Schbirid wget --content-disposition "http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/download?mid=5639162427496fd5ae682533f3f1d4dd&rtyp=s8&fn=Golden_Gate+%281%29" works
17:04 πŸ”— DrainLbry http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/download?mid=5639162427496fd5ae682533f3f1d4dd&rtyp=s8 also works, and you can extrapoloate the hex part from the Model Detail URL
17:05 πŸ”— DrainLbry looks like all models are in Sketchup8, 7, Google Earth 4, Collada format.
17:05 πŸ”— DrainLbry Collada appears to be the most portable/open
17:05 πŸ”— DrainLbry but I know nothing of these formats to know if anythings missing on that versus says a Sketchup 8
17:06 πŸ”— DrainLbry any 3d modelers in the house?
17:12 πŸ”— DrainLbry Collada: http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/download?mid=5639162427496fd5ae682533f3f1d4dd&rtyp=zs
17:12 πŸ”— DrainLbry Google Earth: http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/download?mid=5639162427496fd5ae682533f3f1d4dd&rtyp=ks
17:12 πŸ”— DrainLbry Sketchup7: http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/download?mid=5639162427496fd5ae682533f3f1d4dd&rtyp=s7
17:12 πŸ”— DrainLbry Sketchup8: http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/download?mid=5639162427496fd5ae682533f3f1d4dd&rtyp=s8
17:12 πŸ”— DrainLbry where GUID is derived from the Model Detail page linked off the collection
17:12 πŸ”— DrainLbry mid= in URL
17:17 πŸ”— DrainLbry I've got nothing else, just know enough to be slightly dangerous :)
17:19 πŸ”— DrainLbry All license rights in geolocated models (e.g. 3D buildings viewable on Google Earth) submitted before the Closing Date will remain with Google. Google will provide Trimble with a license right to use these models in TrimbleҀ™s products (including continued use in SketchUp and in any future 3D model repository which Trimble may create).
17:19 πŸ”— DrainLbry All models will continue to be hosted by Google, under contract with Trimble, and made available in an updated 3D Warehouse. Your existing models will continue to appear in the 3D Warehouse, but Google and TrimbleҀ™s rights in the models may differ:
17:19 πŸ”— DrainLbry here's the exact license language: Google has also agreed to transfer rights in the Google 3D Warehouse to Trimble. This will affect models which are hosted in the 3D Warehouse now and in the future.
17:19 πŸ”— DrainLbry All license rights in non-geolocated models (e.g. 3D models of everyday objects not tied to a location) submitted before the Closing Date will be assigned to Trimble on the Closing Date. By continuing to store non-geolocated models in the 3D Warehouse after the Closing Date you consent to the assignment by Google of its rights and obligations to Trimble.
17:19 πŸ”— DrainLbry License rights in all models submitted after the Closing Date will belong to Trimble. Trimble will provide a license right to these models to Google for their use in Google Earth and Google Maps, where relevant.
17:19 πŸ”— DrainLbry In addition, Google will share with Trimble data associated with all models hosted in the Google 3D Warehouse on the Closing Date (which may include user information, model descriptions, tags, ratings etc). Trimble will use this data in accordance with its Privacy Policy.
17:20 πŸ”— DrainLbry "Google will update this page soon with details of the Closing Date." ... and there's no closing date published anywhere
17:32 πŸ”— DrainLbry TL;DR - Your shit belongs to us now unless you opt-out, thanks - Trimble
17:36 πŸ”— undersco2 lol
17:48 πŸ”— X-Scale It's interesting to see the progressive demise/selling of several Google's useful projects. It's all about beating Facebook now.
17:52 πŸ”— DrainLbry i view it as them just vomitting out all the things they bought up and had no idea what to do with
17:52 πŸ”— DrainLbry sergey crashes meetings and is like "oh, we own a 3d modeling software?"
17:52 πŸ”— DrainLbry sell that.
17:52 πŸ”— bsmith094 maybe they bought it just so they had it and their competition didnt
17:53 πŸ”— DrainLbry seems likely.
17:53 πŸ”— bsmith094 they bet pi billion dollars because they could, i think that m,uch money had gone to their heads
17:54 πŸ”— patrickg they wanted user contributed 3d models on maps (and got a few). I guess the street view data is similarily useful for them
17:54 πŸ”— X-Scale heh...the famouse Nortel Patents
17:54 πŸ”— X-Scale famous*
17:54 πŸ”— SketchCow That reminds me. We need to archive thingiverse again!
17:54 πŸ”— patrickg bsmith094: others offered more, no?
17:55 πŸ”— DrainLbry sktechcow: i'm in. tell me where to point my bandwidth
17:55 πŸ”— DrainLbry archive team, assemble!
17:55 πŸ”— SketchCow Someone did it properly a while back.
17:55 πŸ”— SketchCow Don't go rushing off. Someone did it properly and we should re-do that effort.
17:55 πŸ”— DrainLbry right angle spoons? shit, i want one.
17:55 πŸ”— X-Scale patrickg: http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/07/02/us-dealtalk-nortel-google-idUSTRE76104L20110702
17:57 πŸ”— DrainLbry "Either they were supremely confident or they were bored."
17:57 πŸ”— X-Scale hah...yep
17:57 πŸ”— dashcloud so I see someone has already mentioned the Canadian archive situation
17:58 πŸ”— SketchCow Yeah, although some of that is just people flipping out because boingboing reprinting a thing.
18:02 πŸ”— bsmith094 dashcloud: what canaidian archiving situation?
18:04 πŸ”— dashcloud http://www.savelibraryarchives.ca/update-2012-05.aspx
18:05 πŸ”— DrainLbry oh look, yahoo decided to shit on something else again: http://news.yahoo.com/yahoo-kills-livestand-just-6-months-debut-210033190--finance.html shocker.
18:06 πŸ”— dashcloud anyone have a link to the announcement in the third sentence: Last month, Yahoo Inc. told analysts it would close or combine about 50 services that haven't been performing up to expectations. ?
18:07 πŸ”— SketchCow It appears to be that that was all he said.
18:07 πŸ”— SketchCow And now he's fired.
18:07 πŸ”— SketchCow And the person who suggested him is fired.
18:07 πŸ”— dashcloud I'm shocked they still have 50 services to can- I figured it was about 30 or so now
18:08 πŸ”— SketchCow I'm not.
18:08 πŸ”— SketchCow They're so bloated! I mean, so bloated!
18:08 πŸ”— SmileyG yahoo
18:08 πŸ”— SmileyG the ceo who lied on his cv right?
18:09 πŸ”— winr4r their business model seems to be "buy things, close them, repeat and fund it from massive amounts of advertising revenue"
18:09 πŸ”— SmileyG you missed a bit
18:09 πŸ”— SmileyG hire CEO
18:09 πŸ”— SmileyG Buy CEO's companies
18:09 πŸ”— SmileyG Fire CEO
18:09 πŸ”— SmileyG close companies
18:09 πŸ”— SmileyG (last two vary in order)
18:09 πŸ”— bsmith094 buy hire fire, just buy and close
18:10 πŸ”— bsmith094 ceo, would be a waste of money
18:10 πŸ”— bsmith094 for the warrior project, why not throw wikiteam into that, cause it cant b that much space, and just seesaw everything
18:11 πŸ”— winr4r bsmith094: isn't wikimedia commons part of wikiteam?
18:11 πŸ”— winr4r because if so, rethink "can't b that much space"
18:11 πŸ”— bsmith094 ok then, just throw the list of wikis to archive at the warrior project and get those done
18:12 πŸ”— SketchCow I'd like us to consider different warrior projects, sure, but in a general sense on the archiveteam wiki.
18:12 πŸ”— SketchCow So, today, I
18:12 πŸ”— SketchCow 1. Driving to Internet Archive
18:12 πŸ”— SketchCow 2. Put up laptop with tops uploading over to fos and elsewhere
18:13 πŸ”— SketchCow 3. Set off more processes
18:13 πŸ”— SketchCow 4. Leave laptop in office, a timebomb of bandwidth rape
18:13 πŸ”— winr4r heh
18:13 πŸ”— SketchCow 5. Get phonecall at 8pm "what the fuck"
18:13 πŸ”— SketchCow 6. Hang up
18:13 πŸ”— SketchCow 7. Drive to coast
18:13 πŸ”— SketchCow 8. Laugh at sunset
18:13 πŸ”— winr4r hahaha
18:13 πŸ”— SmileyG LOL
18:13 πŸ”— DrainLbry sounds like a good day
18:13 πŸ”— winr4r SketchCow: will you do a hangout at IA again?
18:13 πŸ”— SketchCow Actually, 5. is drive to Santa Cruz
18:14 πŸ”— SketchCow 6. Film boardwalk for arcade doc
18:14 πŸ”— SketchCow 7. Get kicked out
18:14 πŸ”— SketchCow 8. Drive to coast
18:14 πŸ”— SketchCow 9. Laugh at sunset
18:14 πŸ”— DrainLbry anyone know how to view employees that have left on LinkedIN?
18:14 πŸ”— DrainLbry may provide some clues for Yahoo
18:14 πŸ”— DrainLbry seems they show new hires ... cant find an easy "has left"
18:15 πŸ”— DrainLbry n/m, i'm an idoot. apparently no one departs. ever
18:15 πŸ”— DrainLbry no updates.
18:15 πŸ”— SmileyG you join, but you can never leave?
18:15 πŸ”— DrainLbry i filtered by recent depatures, it says nothing
18:15 πŸ”— SmileyG LOL
18:15 πŸ”— SmileyG yahoo is the borg? /
18:15 πŸ”— bsmith094 hotel california
18:16 πŸ”— dashcloud what happens if you're following the company? does it show you all the changes to people at the company?
18:16 πŸ”— DrainLbry i've only ever seen new hires show up for other companies i follow
18:16 πŸ”— DrainLbry and if you are linked to specific people, it will tell you when they update job profile
18:16 πŸ”— SmileyG why can't it be like facebook
18:16 πŸ”— SmileyG "X left yahoo" "Yahoo and 12,405 others like this"
18:17 πŸ”— DrainLbry hah
18:17 πŸ”— SketchCow Just passed 44,000 uploaded artists on IUMA.
18:17 πŸ”— SketchCow It'd be nice to hit an even 45,000 but I'm not positive that'll happen.
18:18 πŸ”— DrainLbry even their API doesn't support it. no fun linkedin. https://developer.linkedin.com/reading-company-updates
18:18 πŸ”— SketchCow Santa Cruz boardwalk is great - I took underscor there so he could almost throw up
18:19 πŸ”— SmileyG o_O>
18:22 πŸ”— SketchCow http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/business/companies/yahoo_inc/index.html is useful for study
18:23 πŸ”— DrainLbry i'm listening to the q1 earnings conference call
18:23 πŸ”— DrainLbry let me tell you, it's fascinating.
18:23 πŸ”— SketchCow That's a level of insight I don't want/need
18:23 πŸ”— DrainLbry yeah i'm just seeing if there's anything to glean
18:23 πŸ”— DrainLbry in subtext
18:23 πŸ”— DrainLbry dedication man.
18:24 πŸ”— DrainLbry I need to find an earnings call drinking game
18:24 πŸ”— DrainLbry I'd be completely drunk by this point
18:25 πŸ”— DrainLbry transitional, restructuring, lookthrough! core business! constructs! cost guidance!
18:25 πŸ”— SmileyG paradigm
18:26 πŸ”— winr4r core competencies
18:26 πŸ”— SmileyG ooo SketchCow btw how come I ended up with op?>
18:26 πŸ”— SmileyG broker
18:26 πŸ”— SmileyG customer
18:26 πŸ”— DrainLbry this guy's got synergy
18:26 πŸ”— winr4r jesus christ, those two words actually make me want to google "how to build a thermonuclear weapon"
18:26 πŸ”— SmileyG lol
18:27 πŸ”— Schbirid winr4r: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2150281/REVEALED-Hundreds-words-avoid-using-online-dont-want-government-spying-you.html
18:27 πŸ”— winr4r also, if i ever have to see the word "action" used as a verb i will actually kill literal people
18:27 πŸ”— DrainLbry i already figured out how to use six of those in a tweet about crash bandicoot
18:28 πŸ”— SmileyG angle of assessment!
18:28 πŸ”— DrainLbry i don't think i've ever heard anyone say so much while saying so little
18:29 πŸ”— Schbirid DrainLbry: Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
18:29 πŸ”— SmileyG DrainLbry: you don't follow politics?
18:30 πŸ”— SmileyG ;)
18:30 πŸ”— winr4r Schbirid: i have an mp3 of me saying that
18:30 πŸ”— Schbirid heh
18:30 πŸ”— DrainLbry yeah but at least in politics you can just get the spin
18:30 πŸ”— winr4r http://dl.dropbox.com/u/57276499/hasanyonereally.mp3
18:31 πŸ”— DrainLbry "Yahoo has been doing way too much for too long, and was only doing a few things well" - wow, he finally said something truthful
18:32 πŸ”— SketchCow OK, heading up to IA. I'll say hi from there as I set up the RapeStation
18:33 πŸ”— DrainLbry drive safe
18:33 πŸ”— SketchCow WHEEE EYES CLOSED
18:34 πŸ”— SmileyG LOL
18:34 πŸ”— SmileyG OH GOD SOCKINGTON IS DRIVING!
18:38 πŸ”— mistym Sockington, the cat who could drive a car
18:39 πŸ”— SmileyG our cat
18:39 πŸ”— SmileyG the one who looks like a clone
18:39 πŸ”— SmileyG he comes in the car....
18:39 πŸ”— SmileyG we drove him to the vet with him walking around in the car
18:39 πŸ”— SmileyG he loves it :/
18:43 πŸ”— DrainLbry so uh, you guys know Yahoo! Meme shut down on the 25th?
18:43 πŸ”— Schbirid yahoo what? :)
18:43 πŸ”— DrainLbry exactly.
18:43 πŸ”— DrainLbry micrblogging service, twitter glone
18:43 πŸ”— DrainLbry I can't believe I just listneed to this fucking call..
18:43 πŸ”— DrainLbry but my best guess is http://www.koprol.com/is next to go
18:44 πŸ”— DrainLbry since Meme was killed
18:44 πŸ”— DrainLbry what does koprol actually do? i have no damn idea
18:44 πŸ”— winr4r a bit like foursquare
18:44 πŸ”— mistym It pops up a Javascript alert the instant you start the site. Lovely.
18:45 πŸ”— DrainLbry but it was mentioned various times on this call "active discussions with Alibaba ..." "... monetize a portion of our AliBaba space ..."
18:45 πŸ”— alard Wikipedia: "Koprol, since 25 May 2010 called Yahoo! Koprol, is an Indonesian social networking service", so it may even be very big locally.
18:45 πŸ”— alard Like Splinder.
18:45 πŸ”— SmileyG any "difficult economic times" ?
18:45 πŸ”— winr4r DrainLbry: "monetize"
18:45 πŸ”— winr4r another one for earnings call drinking game
18:45 πŸ”— DrainLbry sounds like corporate speak for sell this shit
18:46 πŸ”— winr4r DrainLbry: "slap ads on this shit"
18:46 πŸ”— DrainLbry also ""unlock Yahoo Japan value ... valuation gap ...""
18:46 πŸ”— winr4r oh god
18:46 πŸ”— winr4r someone is actually paid to write that shit
18:46 πŸ”— DrainLbry my armchair analyst hat says they're probably purging the asian properties
18:46 πŸ”— mistym Lovely, the "Learn more" page on Koprol is the Business page that emphasizes it's "the ideal platform to promote your business". That speaks excellently for its consumer popularity.
18:46 πŸ”— winr4r i wonder how they do that and don't go home and shoot themselves in the head from shame
18:47 πŸ”— mistym That sounds pretty weird, given that Yahoo Japan is actually doing p. well.
18:47 πŸ”— winr4r mistym: yeah, geocities japan is still alive and well
18:47 πŸ”— DrainLbry yes, but it has a "valuation gap" you know
18:47 πŸ”— winr4r DrainLbry: whatever the christ that means
18:47 πŸ”— mistym Not just Geocities Japan. Yahoo Auctions is by far the #1 online auction in Japan; it's got the marketshare there eBay has over here, to my understanding.
18:47 πŸ”— DFJustin haha yahoo japan is like their one successful thing
18:47 πŸ”— DrainLbry and the only other nugget I got out of this was "stopping... platforms for outside publishers ..."
18:47 πŸ”— DFJustin since they don't directly run it from what I understand
18:48 πŸ”— DrainLbry For the love of the Internet, I can only hope that includes Yahoo answers.
18:49 πŸ”— DrainLbry It fits the bill given that they're using "Knowledge Partners" to populate it
18:50 πŸ”— winr4r DrainLbry: i can't imagine they'd close yahoo answers
18:50 πŸ”— DrainLbry hey i'm just throwing shit out there :)
18:51 πŸ”— mistym DrainLbry: No, that's what the Yahoo Answers users do ;)
18:52 πŸ”— winr4r haha
18:52 πŸ”— winr4r entirely true, mistym
18:53 πŸ”— winr4r it's like, read the people who make comments on stories at yahoo news, THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE ANSWERING YOUR QUESTIONS AT YAHOO ANSWERS
18:53 πŸ”— DrainLbry conf call moderator: "Please limit yourself to one question", next guy "Just 2 questions Scott...."
18:53 πŸ”— winr4r DrainLbry: you must be a masochist, actually listening to this shit
18:54 πŸ”— winr4r DrainLbry does it so we don't have to!
18:54 πŸ”— Nemo_bis the only useful thing in YA is that you can ask a question, then answer yourself, and you'll have a good pagerank
18:54 πŸ”— DrainLbry I'm taking one for the team
18:54 πŸ”— winr4r DrainLbry: you certainly are :)
18:54 πŸ”— Nemo_bis way easier than putting some info somewhere on the internet
18:55 πŸ”— DrainLbry incremental color? what does that even mean? what language are these people speaking
18:56 πŸ”— winr4r DrainLbry: Corporate Fuck-speak
18:59 πŸ”— DrainLbry i actually got Koprol to work
19:00 πŸ”— DrainLbry http://www.koprol.com/public_language?lang=en if you know, you don't know indonesian
19:00 πŸ”— DrainLbry so yeah it's ah .... like a facebook/twitter/foursquare clone
19:00 πŸ”— DrainLbry if they all had a giant orgy in a second-rate hotel in indonesia
19:00 πŸ”— DrainLbry this would be their child
19:01 πŸ”— DrainLbry "Find friends from Twitter" "Find friends from Facebook" ... doin' it wrong yahoo.
19:02 πŸ”— winr4r heh
19:03 πŸ”— DrainLbry here's what a business profile looks like: http://www.koprol.com/biz/7elevenindonesia
19:03 πŸ”— DrainLbry no login needed
19:05 πŸ”— DrainLbry there is a riduculous amount of activity in comments on this site, but i don't see any functionality that would allow one to make any extended length posts
19:05 πŸ”— DrainLbry so it's mostly check-ins, status updates
19:05 πŸ”— DrainLbry and then business listings
19:05 πŸ”— winr4r hm
19:06 πŸ”— DrainLbry welp, that concludes my "guess the next yahoo property to be shut down" analysis for the day
19:06 πŸ”— DrainLbry feel free to check in at the Firoz Shah Kotla Cricket Stadium on Koprol, and we can Bump each other's streams.
19:06 πŸ”— winr4r haha
19:08 πŸ”— DrainLbry there's something just hillarious about the fact they use Google Maps on this site
19:09 πŸ”— DrainLbry So, to summarize, sign up for Koprol with your Yahoo account, find your friends from Facebook and Twitter, then check-in to places on Google Maps
19:09 πŸ”— SmileyG :D
19:09 πŸ”— DrainLbry I can't possibly imagine why this service hasn't taken off
19:09 πŸ”— mistym DrainLbry: It's what happens when you buy a company that already exists! Hotmail still ran on Solaris for years after MS bought them.
19:10 πŸ”— DrainLbry Yahoo had previously considered a US$100 million acquisition of Foursquare, a US-based location-based social network. - man they bet on the wrong horse.
19:12 πŸ”— DrainLbry well kids, it's been fun. catch you folks later.
19:12 πŸ”— natevw couple questions about the Tabblo save Ҁ” I installed the brew helper stuff, but it's getting 404 from the tracker. Is all data already "safe" then?
19:13 πŸ”— natevw and where does that go? e.g. if I want to go reminisce over my old pages there, how do I access the backup?
19:14 πŸ”— mistym natevw: Yeah, it's already done so far as I know. The last few stragglers and reuploads were being done recently. I don't think there are any more to do atm.
19:15 πŸ”— natevw cool, glad those are taken care of, though somewhat sorry I couldn't be part of helping
19:15 πŸ”— DrainLbry dumps look like theyre going up on archive.org
19:15 πŸ”— DrainLbry search Tabblo
19:15 πŸ”— DrainLbry nothing appears to be parased in any fashion yet however
19:15 πŸ”— DrainLbry parased
19:15 πŸ”— DrainLbry parsed
19:15 πŸ”— DrainLbry geez
19:15 πŸ”— mistym DrainLbry: I think those are the zip downloads produced by the other download script. I don't believe the seesaw stuff is up yet.
19:16 πŸ”— DrainLbry ah, color me corrected. *scribble*
19:16 πŸ”— natevw but generally, despite the disclaimer that you aren't affiliated, the data does get to land on archive.org?
19:16 πŸ”— Schbirid yes
19:16 πŸ”— mistym Anyone can upload to archive.org. You don't have to work for them to put stuff there.
19:24 πŸ”— winr4r mistym: unfortunately, last time the licenses were all along the lines of "i created this myself"
19:25 πŸ”— mistym winr4r: True.
19:25 πŸ”— winr4r and i don't want to lie and say i did that, with any of the stuff i've saved
19:25 πŸ”— mistym Also, natevw - Tabblo may be done but I think other stuff is on the move! Looks like more help is still needed on the MobileMe project?
19:25 πŸ”— winr4r i'm guessing jason knows how to just shove stuff in there bypassing that
19:50 πŸ”— LnKbMp would anyone be interested in helping me archive Reddit?
19:57 πŸ”— DFJustin you can just skip filling in a licence when you upload
19:57 πŸ”— Schbirid phew
19:57 πŸ”— Schbirid would be worth asking them for a firehose to archive.org
19:58 πŸ”— SketchCow Back.
20:57 πŸ”— SketchCow Setting up hundreds of gigabytes of transfer
20:57 πŸ”— SketchCow Almost ready to let this machine go overnight and get the hell out of here
20:57 πŸ”— SketchCow :)
21:04 πŸ”— Nemo_bis How many drives connected to it?
21:08 πŸ”— SketchCow One drive for uploading right now, and I'm duping another drive and preparing to upload stuff from it.
21:17 πŸ”— Nemo_bis ok
22:25 πŸ”— Korodzik What's the best way to go about archiving a rather big website piece by piece? It's 210 GB and I cannot really wget it all in one go.
22:25 πŸ”— chronomex hmmm
22:25 πŸ”— chronomex does it have clear subdirectories that you can restrict to?
22:26 πŸ”— Korodzik Not sure. More or less. It's a wiki.
22:26 πŸ”— chronomex is it mediawiki-based?
22:27 πŸ”— Korodzik Nope, it's TVTropes. It uses pmwiki.
22:27 πŸ”— chronomex hmmmm
22:28 πŸ”— chronomex I consider it best to archive wikis in a backup format rather than html dumps
22:28 πŸ”— chronomex if you have a choice
22:29 πŸ”— chronomex because then you get more complete history
22:29 πŸ”— Korodzik what do you mean by "backup format", exactly? Because there aren't public backups available
22:30 πŸ”— chronomex well, mediawiki lets you export the original source markup of each page and all its versions
22:30 πŸ”— chronomex if you can figure out a way to view the source markup of each revision, that would be best
22:30 πŸ”— chronomex you can work from a list of pages and do them in whatever order is convenient, saving each into a directory or whatever
22:31 πŸ”— Korodzik Well, first, I don't have a list of all articles. I might try asking the higher-ups for it, but I don't know if they will agree.
22:31 πŸ”— chronomex ah.
22:31 πŸ”— chronomex hrm.
22:31 πŸ”— chronomex why not?
22:31 πŸ”— chronomex worth a try
22:33 πŸ”— Korodzik Their stance is basically that they won't stop anyone who tries backing up the wiki, but they don't see a point in helping them.
22:33 πŸ”— chronomex that's fucked in the head
22:33 πŸ”— chronomex in some way
22:33 πŸ”— Korodzik "Long story short: If you want to back up TV Tropes because you are afraid of the site suffering a catastrophic failure, then you can rest assured that Eddie [the wiki administrator] has that under control, and if you are still concerned, then you should contact him directly and talk tech, as it were. If you want to mirror TV Tropes because you disagree with our policies... we see no value
22:33 πŸ”— Korodzik in it and will not provide any support. Good luck with that, as they say. If you want to copy individual articles because you're concerned about them being cut or neutered, go right ahead Ҁ” we will neither help nor hinder you."
22:34 πŸ”— chronomex hrmph.
22:34 πŸ”— Korodzik The problem with the wiki mods is that they are highly deletion-happy. That's actually my motive for making a backup.
22:34 πŸ”— chronomex aye
22:35 πŸ”— chronomex hm.
22:37 πŸ”— chronomex http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/index_report.php <- list of all pages
22:38 πŸ”— chronomex you could archive by category and by first letter, I guess that'd give you about 500 slices
22:38 πŸ”— Korodzik Hm. Extracting these is going to take some effort, but it's useful. Thanks for the idea, I forgot about that page.
22:39 πŸ”— chronomex my pleasure
22:40 πŸ”— Korodzik The forums might be a little more complicated but I think I might manage to pull that off.
22:40 πŸ”— chronomex sure
22:41 πŸ”— chronomex a pmwiki exporter could be my today's task
22:41 πŸ”— chronomex hmmm.
22:41 πŸ”— chronomex brb shower
22:42 πŸ”— chronomex be forewarned, I'm intending to make something that does one file per article, using RCS.
22:43 πŸ”— chronomex RCS is fucked in many ways, but it turns out to be perfect for archiving wiki articles
22:47 πŸ”— Debianer chronomex, I like GIT better XD
22:54 πŸ”— chronomex git is better
22:54 πŸ”— chronomex but git isn't suited to the task
23:51 πŸ”— Coderjoe i have to wonder if Eddie makes sure his backups work.
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