[00:34] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykgYj0VaoHY [00:41] http://i.imgur.com/K2Fvd.jpg [00:52] :| [00:52] is it just me or does a lot of the efnet server ssuck [00:53] though it could just be the servers i connect through [00:53] oh, crap.. i've been connecting to CA regions, thinking it was California [00:53] haha, FAIL [00:57] Doh, Canada [00:59] wait, California is not its own country? [00:59] * closure_ checks his passport for stamps [01:12] running archiveteam warrior [01:12] its p cool! [01:13] That must be a new program or did I miss it's anouncement? I haven't heard of it before today [01:13] check the /topic [01:13] its a virtual machine that you run :) [01:14] Yea - I saw that. What I mean is it's a new thing? First I heard of it was when I logged in [01:15] does it seesaw? [01:17] it seems to connect to a server that tells you what to download [01:43] SketchCow: good.net is closing [01:45] Yeah [01:46] good.net? Never heard of it... [01:47] it use to not need user login [01:47] but now it does [01:49] like this has a lot of hacker cons stuff: http://good.net/dl/bd/ [02:09] Yeah [02:09] Good to know, especially since I've been downloading there for 13 hours. [02:24] what's good.net? [02:24] what's their purpose, etc [02:25] wow [02:25] MobileMe? ~200TB? [02:26] has that been updated lately? [02:26] http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Projects [02:38] Someone sent me a fantastic project plan for downloading Reddit. [02:38] I asked him to come here, his name is "BP". [02:38] Could use a project channel and project page. [02:40] at-redd.it [02:40] i'll get the domai [02:40] n [02:40] 43,000 songs! [02:40] I mean artists! [02:40] 3,000 artists added today. A good day. [02:40] at-redd.it -> 12 EUR [02:40] not bad [02:40] Trying to put it to bed so I can moe to the next bit. [02:45] Now that archive.org can read CBRs and CBZs, I just need to do a Great Renaming and shove those suckers right into the mess. [02:47] OOOOOOO canned_beats IS NEWWWWWWW [02:47] >> Canned_Beats [02:47] Description ends at line 4... [02:47] Description starts at line 410... [02:47] We make it a pretty princess. canned_beats [02:47] Princess looks so ugly when she cries. No mp3s for canned_beats [02:48] I've got 8 windows open doing things like that. [02:59] good morning [02:59] two hours of sleep = enough for anyone [03:00] Yeah, fuck sleep [03:00] Good for one thing: Dying in it. [03:00] Hey, who's up and around? [03:01] haha [03:13] herro [03:16] What is UP with that nick, anyway. [03:17] it makes me special and stand out [03:17] It does do that. [03:19] I'm up and around [03:19] :D [03:19] also covered in blisters :( [03:21] Dude, slow down on the jerking [03:21] hahahahaha [03:21] POWERJERK [03:22] actually they're sun blisters, all over my shoulders :( [03:22] err [03:22] http://www.radishes.org/leisuretown/library/csj/index.html [03:23] No, don't do that. [03:23] aww [03:23] too long [03:23] Go read that radishes link and giggle to yourself but again - off to -bs [03:40] I've been musing about some sort of Archive Team Con [03:40] I could host the day stuff at Internet Archive, upstairs, I'd be allowed to do it, with warning. [03:40] Hackathon, presentations, etc. [03:49] That would be really neat. [03:49] Have a panel on "How to shut down" [03:49] and invite the yahoo execs [03:52] will there be cosplay [03:52] Of course there will be cosplay [03:52] Maybe some live band whose music we saved [03:52] I want to cosplay SketchCow [04:56] Flight is now landing. [04:56] Let's make this a fun week for archiving. I'm right in the heart of the beast. [04:56] Ah, the day job. [05:28] My name is Inigo Montoya. You deleted my data. Prepare to die. [06:29] what if everyone cosplayed SketchCow and it was a room full of them! [06:30] and what if anonymous wore SketchCow masks instead of guy fawkes [06:30] How would they replicate his beard? How do you stylize such a thing? [06:31] people would kill themselves immediately after becoming fully replicated [06:31] kidding, lol. ... [06:34] haha [06:34] http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1/180-1513890-7523916?url=search-alias%3Dapparel&field-keywords=beard [06:34] one of those should work [06:35] probably the lincoln and top hat set is the best choice [06:38] SketchCow: Someone took up the task of archiving rev3 finally [06:39] it go a lot done in the last month too [06:39] the only good show is the broken [06:39] broken h.264 was backed up [06:39] yeah i have the original avis somewhere [06:39] http://anarchivism.org/w/Save_Rev3 [06:40] nice [06:40] its being bought by discoverly so it make since to back up all archived shows first [06:40] then the still running shows [06:41] wonder how much rose is going to make [06:42] that'll be Famicoman's work [06:42] with a little assistance, of course :P [06:43] i still get free pizzas from the info i learned on the broken [06:43] lol [06:43] i think ramzi turned out to be one of the 9/11 hijackers [10:33] Achievement get: load http://www.textfiles.com/underconstruction/mail/ without crashing. [10:35] got to a full page load then closed before explosion [10:36] 2012-05-28 12:36:22 (345 KB/s) - âindex.htmlâ saved [552717/552717] [10:36] i am mr smartypants [10:38] Now download the images! [10:38] --mirror --depth=1 [10:38] haahahah ass [10:43] hmmm [10:43] 1000 2918 3.2 10.9 2460520 1117760 tty1 Sl May09 905:25 /opt/firefox/firefox --sm-config-prefix /firefox-d0NRqQ/ --sm-client-id 286ebca28-3477-4423-b58b-40a76aedc50e --screen 0 [10:43] yes [10:44] firefox upto 2.4gb so far.... and I have ops? o_O? [10:45] I've loaded about half that page so fra :) [10:45] far* [10:45] * SmileyG goes to -bs to continue to discuss this [11:03] SmileyG: I used to have ops, but then my connection reset! [12:04] http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1406227718/archive-a-knowledge-tool-by-the-brooklyn-institute [12:10] oh, joeyh is not here anymore? [13:36] http://torrentfreak.com/i-was-a-member-of-centropy-the-worlds-leading-movie-piracy-group-120526/ the guy is doing a kickstarter [13:55] about the other scene: https://vimeo.com/40192433 [16:14] so AT. my overactive imagingation was thinking: 3d Models. MakerBots, and the like kind of 3d models. Big baddie interests are prone to start shutting these sites down as we're getting below $500 for 3D Printers (Solidoodle). Sites like say this: http://archive3d.net/ [16:15] big ole list of similar sites at: http://www.hongkiat.com/blog/60-excellent-free-3d-model-websites/ [16:16] any ideas? [16:41] leech em and upload em to archive.org [16:41] e.g. http://archive.org/details/thingiverse-20110829 [16:42] times like this is when i wish i knew even rudimentary scripting [16:42] cause it looks like there'd be a small amoutn of trickery to grab the contents [16:49] the grunt work would be first to find out if one can construct download URLs by simply looking at eg file IDs, item URLs and the like [16:49] ie if they are generated randomly or not [16:51] archive3d.net looks fairly straightforward, each object is represented by http://archive3d.net/?a=download&do=get&id=XXXXXXXX [16:51] and then download URLs are http://archive3d.net/?a=download&do=get&id=XXXXXXXX , but theres a verification step in there when interactively grabbed [16:52] firing up ole firebug [16:52] meh yeah, the storage URLS are all kinds of randomness it appears [16:52] [12:53:06.136] GET http://storage3d.com/storage/2012.05/5329a7a6f4b6a6216fc4c1466620400d.zip [HTTP/1.1 200 OK 559ms] [16:54] well this isn't good - http://sketchupdate.blogspot.com/2012/04/new-home-for-sketchup.html Google selling SketchUp to Trimble, team leaving. i doubt Google 3D Warehouse is long for this world http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/ [16:55] License transferrence detail, licensing reverting to Trimble, trimble to re-license back to Google, users must o-tput [16:55] http://sketchup.google.com/intl/en/usernotice.html [16:56] So, semi-ontopic - http://www.change.org/petitions/make-it-better-write-a-letter-help-save-canada-s-national-archival-development-program [16:56] Not that online petitions are the most productive things, but Canada's archivists can use a show of support. [16:56] So yeah, we may want to look at Google 3D Warehouse [16:59] Collection Example: [16:59] Download URL: [16:59] Leads to Model Detail: [16:59] http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/cldetails?mid=16720b951dd237c849b01c4ab3a844cd&ct=hpr2 [16:59] http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=5639162427496fd5ae682533f3f1d4dd [16:59] http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/download?mid=5639162427496fd5ae682533f3f1d4dd&rtyp=s8&fn=Golden_Gate+%281%29&ctyp=other&ts=1310518256000 [16:59] Which kicks you over to: [16:59] http://doc-00-9s-3dwarehouse.googleusercontent.com/3dwarehouse/secure/kmhgnuh5h6u91rt8792l7cm2t7hev4k0/bdusj0rp75chn6l5hel737cvtdhudn7m/1338206400000/s8/0400813591974242548656785/5639162427496fd5ae682533f3f1d4dd?ts=1310518256000&fn=Golden_Gate+(1)&ctyp=other&nonce=ksh36tamfnt9m&user=0400813591974242548656785&hash=8phhj862uh21cetgu3dpdbprc5sis6pk [17:02] wget --content-disposition "http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/download?mid=5639162427496fd5ae682533f3f1d4dd&rtyp=s8&fn=Golden_Gate+%281%29" works [17:04] http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/download?mid=5639162427496fd5ae682533f3f1d4dd&rtyp=s8 also works, and you can extrapoloate the hex part from the Model Detail URL [17:05] looks like all models are in Sketchup8, 7, Google Earth 4, Collada format. [17:05] Collada appears to be the most portable/open [17:05] but I know nothing of these formats to know if anythings missing on that versus says a Sketchup 8 [17:06] any 3d modelers in the house? [17:12] Collada: http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/download?mid=5639162427496fd5ae682533f3f1d4dd&rtyp=zs [17:12] Google Earth: http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/download?mid=5639162427496fd5ae682533f3f1d4dd&rtyp=ks [17:12] Sketchup7: http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/download?mid=5639162427496fd5ae682533f3f1d4dd&rtyp=s7 [17:12] Sketchup8: http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/download?mid=5639162427496fd5ae682533f3f1d4dd&rtyp=s8 [17:12] where GUID is derived from the Model Detail page linked off the collection [17:12] mid= in URL [17:17] I've got nothing else, just know enough to be slightly dangerous :) [17:19] All license rights in geolocated models (e.g. 3D buildings viewable on Google Earth) submitted before the Closing Date will remain with Google. Google will provide Trimble with a license right to use these models in Trimbleâs products (including continued use in SketchUp and in any future 3D model repository which Trimble may create). [17:19] All models will continue to be hosted by Google, under contract with Trimble, and made available in an updated 3D Warehouse. Your existing models will continue to appear in the 3D Warehouse, but Google and Trimbleâs rights in the models may differ: [17:19] here's the exact license language: Google has also agreed to transfer rights in the Google 3D Warehouse to Trimble. This will affect models which are hosted in the 3D Warehouse now and in the future. [17:19] All license rights in non-geolocated models (e.g. 3D models of everyday objects not tied to a location) submitted before the Closing Date will be assigned to Trimble on the Closing Date. By continuing to store non-geolocated models in the 3D Warehouse after the Closing Date you consent to the assignment by Google of its rights and obligations to Trimble. [17:19] License rights in all models submitted after the Closing Date will belong to Trimble. Trimble will provide a license right to these models to Google for their use in Google Earth and Google Maps, where relevant. [17:19] In addition, Google will share with Trimble data associated with all models hosted in the Google 3D Warehouse on the Closing Date (which may include user information, model descriptions, tags, ratings etc). Trimble will use this data in accordance with its Privacy Policy. [17:20] "Google will update this page soon with details of the Closing Date." ... and there's no closing date published anywhere [17:32] TL;DR - Your shit belongs to us now unless you opt-out, thanks - Trimble [17:36] lol [17:48] It's interesting to see the progressive demise/selling of several Google's useful projects. It's all about beating Facebook now. [17:52] i view it as them just vomitting out all the things they bought up and had no idea what to do with [17:52] sergey crashes meetings and is like "oh, we own a 3d modeling software?" [17:52] sell that. [17:52] maybe they bought it just so they had it and their competition didnt [17:53] seems likely. [17:53] they bet pi billion dollars because they could, i think that m,uch money had gone to their heads [17:54] they wanted user contributed 3d models on maps (and got a few). I guess the street view data is similarily useful for them [17:54] heh...the famouse Nortel Patents [17:54] famous* [17:54] That reminds me. We need to archive thingiverse again! [17:54] bsmith094: others offered more, no? [17:55] sktechcow: i'm in. tell me where to point my bandwidth [17:55] archive team, assemble! [17:55] Someone did it properly a while back. [17:55] Don't go rushing off. Someone did it properly and we should re-do that effort. [17:55] right angle spoons? shit, i want one. [17:55] patrickg: http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/07/02/us-dealtalk-nortel-google-idUSTRE76104L20110702 [17:57] "Either they were supremely confident or they were bored." [17:57] hah...yep [17:57] so I see someone has already mentioned the Canadian archive situation [17:58] Yeah, although some of that is just people flipping out because boingboing reprinting a thing. [18:02] dashcloud: what canaidian archiving situation? [18:04] http://www.savelibraryarchives.ca/update-2012-05.aspx [18:05] oh look, yahoo decided to shit on something else again: http://news.yahoo.com/yahoo-kills-livestand-just-6-months-debut-210033190--finance.html shocker. [18:06] anyone have a link to the announcement in the third sentence: Last month, Yahoo Inc. told analysts it would close or combine about 50 services that haven't been performing up to expectations. ? [18:07] It appears to be that that was all he said. [18:07] And now he's fired. [18:07] And the person who suggested him is fired. [18:07] I'm shocked they still have 50 services to can- I figured it was about 30 or so now [18:08] I'm not. [18:08] They're so bloated! I mean, so bloated! [18:08] yahoo [18:08] the ceo who lied on his cv right? [18:09] their business model seems to be "buy things, close them, repeat and fund it from massive amounts of advertising revenue" [18:09] you missed a bit [18:09] hire CEO [18:09] Buy CEO's companies [18:09] Fire CEO [18:09] close companies [18:09] (last two vary in order) [18:09] buy hire fire, just buy and close [18:10] ceo, would be a waste of money [18:10] for the warrior project, why not throw wikiteam into that, cause it cant b that much space, and just seesaw everything [18:11] bsmith094: isn't wikimedia commons part of wikiteam? [18:11] because if so, rethink "can't b that much space" [18:11] ok then, just throw the list of wikis to archive at the warrior project and get those done [18:12] I'd like us to consider different warrior projects, sure, but in a general sense on the archiveteam wiki. [18:12] So, today, I [18:12] 1. Driving to Internet Archive [18:12] 2. Put up laptop with tops uploading over to fos and elsewhere [18:13] 3. Set off more processes [18:13] 4. Leave laptop in office, a timebomb of bandwidth rape [18:13] heh [18:13] 5. Get phonecall at 8pm "what the fuck" [18:13] 6. Hang up [18:13] 7. Drive to coast [18:13] 8. Laugh at sunset [18:13] hahaha [18:13] LOL [18:13] sounds like a good day [18:13] SketchCow: will you do a hangout at IA again? [18:13] Actually, 5. is drive to Santa Cruz [18:14] 6. Film boardwalk for arcade doc [18:14] 7. Get kicked out [18:14] 8. Drive to coast [18:14] 9. Laugh at sunset [18:14] anyone know how to view employees that have left on LinkedIN? [18:14] may provide some clues for Yahoo [18:14] seems they show new hires ... cant find an easy "has left" [18:15] n/m, i'm an idoot. apparently no one departs. ever [18:15] no updates. [18:15] you join, but you can never leave? [18:15] i filtered by recent depatures, it says nothing [18:15] LOL [18:15] yahoo is the borg? / [18:15] hotel california [18:16] what happens if you're following the company? does it show you all the changes to people at the company? [18:16] i've only ever seen new hires show up for other companies i follow [18:16] and if you are linked to specific people, it will tell you when they update job profile [18:16] why can't it be like facebook [18:16] "X left yahoo" "Yahoo and 12,405 others like this" [18:17] hah [18:17] Just passed 44,000 uploaded artists on IUMA. [18:17] It'd be nice to hit an even 45,000 but I'm not positive that'll happen. [18:18] even their API doesn't support it. no fun linkedin. https://developer.linkedin.com/reading-company-updates [18:18] Santa Cruz boardwalk is great - I took underscor there so he could almost throw up [18:19] o_O> [18:22] http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/business/companies/yahoo_inc/index.html is useful for study [18:23] i'm listening to the q1 earnings conference call [18:23] let me tell you, it's fascinating. [18:23] That's a level of insight I don't want/need [18:23] yeah i'm just seeing if there's anything to glean [18:23] in subtext [18:23] dedication man. [18:24] I need to find an earnings call drinking game [18:24] I'd be completely drunk by this point [18:25] transitional, restructuring, lookthrough! core business! constructs! cost guidance! [18:25] paradigm [18:26] core competencies [18:26] ooo SketchCow btw how come I ended up with op?> [18:26] broker [18:26] customer [18:26] this guy's got synergy [18:26] jesus christ, those two words actually make me want to google "how to build a thermonuclear weapon" [18:26] lol [18:27] winr4r: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2150281/REVEALED-Hundreds-words-avoid-using-online-dont-want-government-spying-you.html [18:27] also, if i ever have to see the word "action" used as a verb i will actually kill literal people [18:27] i already figured out how to use six of those in a tweet about crash bandicoot [18:28] angle of assessment! [18:28] i don't think i've ever heard anyone say so much while saying so little [18:29] DrainLbry: Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like? [18:29] DrainLbry: you don't follow politics? [18:30] ;) [18:30] Schbirid: i have an mp3 of me saying that [18:30] heh [18:30] yeah but at least in politics you can just get the spin [18:30] http://dl.dropbox.com/u/57276499/hasanyonereally.mp3 [18:31] "Yahoo has been doing way too much for too long, and was only doing a few things well" - wow, he finally said something truthful [18:32] OK, heading up to IA. I'll say hi from there as I set up the RapeStation [18:33] drive safe [18:33] WHEEE EYES CLOSED [18:34] LOL [18:34] OH GOD SOCKINGTON IS DRIVING! [18:38] Sockington, the cat who could drive a car [18:39] our cat [18:39] the one who looks like a clone [18:39] he comes in the car.... [18:39] we drove him to the vet with him walking around in the car [18:39] he loves it :/ [18:43] so uh, you guys know Yahoo! Meme shut down on the 25th? [18:43] yahoo what? :) [18:43] exactly. [18:43] micrblogging service, twitter glone [18:43] I can't believe I just listneed to this fucking call.. [18:43] but my best guess is http://www.koprol.com/is next to go [18:44] since Meme was killed [18:44] what does koprol actually do? i have no damn idea [18:44] a bit like foursquare [18:44] It pops up a Javascript alert the instant you start the site. Lovely. [18:45] but it was mentioned various times on this call "active discussions with Alibaba ..." "... monetize a portion of our AliBaba space ..." [18:45] Wikipedia: "Koprol, since 25 May 2010 called Yahoo! Koprol, is an Indonesian social networking service", so it may even be very big locally. [18:45] Like Splinder. [18:45] any "difficult economic times" ? [18:45] DrainLbry: "monetize" [18:45] another one for earnings call drinking game [18:45] sounds like corporate speak for sell this shit [18:46] DrainLbry: "slap ads on this shit" [18:46] also ""unlock Yahoo Japan value ... valuation gap ..."" [18:46] oh god [18:46] someone is actually paid to write that shit [18:46] my armchair analyst hat says they're probably purging the asian properties [18:46] Lovely, the "Learn more" page on Koprol is the Business page that emphasizes it's "the ideal platform to promote your business". That speaks excellently for its consumer popularity. [18:46] i wonder how they do that and don't go home and shoot themselves in the head from shame [18:47] That sounds pretty weird, given that Yahoo Japan is actually doing p. well. [18:47] mistym: yeah, geocities japan is still alive and well [18:47] yes, but it has a "valuation gap" you know [18:47] DrainLbry: whatever the christ that means [18:47] Not just Geocities Japan. Yahoo Auctions is by far the #1 online auction in Japan; it's got the marketshare there eBay has over here, to my understanding. [18:47] haha yahoo japan is like their one successful thing [18:47] and the only other nugget I got out of this was "stopping... platforms for outside publishers ..." [18:47] since they don't directly run it from what I understand [18:48] For the love of the Internet, I can only hope that includes Yahoo answers. [18:49] It fits the bill given that they're using "Knowledge Partners" to populate it [18:50] DrainLbry: i can't imagine they'd close yahoo answers [18:50] hey i'm just throwing shit out there :) [18:51] DrainLbry: No, that's what the Yahoo Answers users do ;) [18:52] haha [18:52] entirely true, mistym [18:53] it's like, read the people who make comments on stories at yahoo news, THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE ANSWERING YOUR QUESTIONS AT YAHOO ANSWERS [18:53] conf call moderator: "Please limit yourself to one question", next guy "Just 2 questions Scott...." [18:53] DrainLbry: you must be a masochist, actually listening to this shit [18:54] DrainLbry does it so we don't have to! [18:54] the only useful thing in YA is that you can ask a question, then answer yourself, and you'll have a good pagerank [18:54] I'm taking one for the team [18:54] DrainLbry: you certainly are :) [18:54] way easier than putting some info somewhere on the internet [18:55] incremental color? what does that even mean? what language are these people speaking [18:56] DrainLbry: Corporate Fuck-speak [18:59] i actually got Koprol to work [19:00] http://www.koprol.com/public_language?lang=en if you know, you don't know indonesian [19:00] so yeah it's ah .... like a facebook/twitter/foursquare clone [19:00] if they all had a giant orgy in a second-rate hotel in indonesia [19:00] this would be their child [19:01] "Find friends from Twitter" "Find friends from Facebook" ... doin' it wrong yahoo. [19:02] heh [19:03] here's what a business profile looks like: http://www.koprol.com/biz/7elevenindonesia [19:03] no login needed [19:05] there is a riduculous amount of activity in comments on this site, but i don't see any functionality that would allow one to make any extended length posts [19:05] so it's mostly check-ins, status updates [19:05] and then business listings [19:05] hm [19:06] welp, that concludes my "guess the next yahoo property to be shut down" analysis for the day [19:06] feel free to check in at the Firoz Shah Kotla Cricket Stadium on Koprol, and we can Bump each other's streams. [19:06] haha [19:08] there's something just hillarious about the fact they use Google Maps on this site [19:09] So, to summarize, sign up for Koprol with your Yahoo account, find your friends from Facebook and Twitter, then check-in to places on Google Maps [19:09] :D [19:09] I can't possibly imagine why this service hasn't taken off [19:09] DrainLbry: It's what happens when you buy a company that already exists! Hotmail still ran on Solaris for years after MS bought them. [19:10] Yahoo had previously considered a US$100 million acquisition of Foursquare, a US-based location-based social network. - man they bet on the wrong horse. [19:12] well kids, it's been fun. catch you folks later. [19:12] couple questions about the Tabblo save âÂ I installed the brew helper stuff, but it's getting 404 from the tracker. Is all data already "safe" then? [19:13] and where does that go? e.g. if I want to go reminisce over my old pages there, how do I access the backup? [19:14] natevw: Yeah, it's already done so far as I know. The last few stragglers and reuploads were being done recently. I don't think there are any more to do atm. [19:15] cool, glad those are taken care of, though somewhat sorry I couldn't be part of helping [19:15] dumps look like theyre going up on archive.org [19:15] search Tabblo [19:15] nothing appears to be parased in any fashion yet however [19:15] parased [19:15] parsed [19:15] geez [19:15] DrainLbry: I think those are the zip downloads produced by the other download script. I don't believe the seesaw stuff is up yet. [19:16] ah, color me corrected. *scribble* [19:16] but generally, despite the disclaimer that you aren't affiliated, the data does get to land on archive.org? [19:16] yes [19:16] Anyone can upload to archive.org. You don't have to work for them to put stuff there. [19:24] mistym: unfortunately, last time the licenses were all along the lines of "i created this myself" [19:25] winr4r: True. [19:25] and i don't want to lie and say i did that, with any of the stuff i've saved [19:25]