#archiveteam 2012-06-10,Sun

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00:25 🔗 jjonas alard, http://pastebin.com/MGp6hCHz ( just an old list with few 1000 addtional usernames, since i paused finding new ones, but sending now before the tracker list is empty)
00:50 🔗 ersi usernames for fucking what >_>
00:51 🔗 chronomex my guess is memac
00:52 🔗 ersi would be my best guess as well
03:02 🔗 SketchCow SORRY FOR FAKING MY DEATH THERE
03:04 🔗 yipdw SketchCow: you're needed in #piczzz re: assessment.txt
03:15 🔗 SketchCow Working on it
03:41 🔗 instence does anyone have a solution for shutting off the security warning for executing an archive html file with embedded flash player code?
03:42 🔗 instence executing the html as a local file that is
03:43 🔗 instence for each flash embed it throws warning after warning and is so annoying
03:45 🔗 instence ah HA figured it out
03:45 🔗 instence have to set a folder as developer trusted under flash settings
03:46 🔗 * instence regains his sanity
03:56 🔗 yipdw this might be worth archiving: http://sincedutch.wordpress.com/2012/06/07/672012-radiation-alert-on-multiple-systems-north-indiana-south-michigan/
03:56 🔗 yipdw I'm trying to submit it to WebCite, but it seems down
04:00 🔗 joepie91 http://www.freezepage.com/ :)
04:00 🔗 joepie91 s/:)/?/
04:01 🔗 joepie91 or http://freze.it/
04:01 🔗 joepie91 oh, freze doesn't do the static assets
04:28 🔗 Aranje well and then there's all the reddit shit
04:28 🔗 Aranje they've been doing realtime investimagations
04:31 🔗 DFJustin use liveweb.archive.org
04:42 🔗 * Aranje prints to pdf the reddit pages
04:42 🔗 chronomex yow
04:44 🔗 db48x what's up with reddit today?
04:54 🔗 Aranje reports of covered up possible nuclear event in the midwest
04:54 🔗 Aranje let's see if this whole chrome browser sync thing really works
04:56 🔗 Aranje http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/uqlq9/reddit_i_think_there_is_a_giant_nuclear_coverup/
04:56 🔗 Aranje http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/urm6c/updates_past_23_for_the_nuclear_thread/
04:56 🔗 Aranje http://www.reddit.com/r/Astonishing/comments/uskeh/updates_past_39_for_the_nuclear_thread_getting/
04:57 🔗 Aranje (That's all of them, in order)
05:02 🔗 chronomex huh.
05:04 🔗 SketchCow Yeah, that guy
05:04 🔗 SketchCow I wasted a little time on him.
05:04 🔗 SketchCow Be sure to arcive it
05:05 🔗 db48x ah
05:05 🔗 db48x fun
05:08 🔗 SketchCow http://archive.org/search_beta/
05:08 🔗 SketchCow Play with it!
05:08 🔗 SketchCow Lovin' it
05:09 🔗 S[h]O[r]T chrome sync works really nice
05:09 🔗 S[h]O[r]T just wish you didnt have to UL all ur shit to google
05:10 🔗 db48x S[h]O[r]T: use Firefox instead then :)
05:11 🔗 db48x SketchCow: sweet: 13,059 items found, 291.06 TiB total size, 58,070 downloads, 1,588,574 images, 463,671 files, search took 5.470 seconds.
05:11 🔗 Swizzle SketchCow: Awesome! Looks like there would be some big improvements with this compared the current search functions
05:15 🔗 SketchCow There's a guy doing this full time
05:26 🔗 joepie91 SketchCow: not bad :)
05:26 🔗 joepie91 my only remark would be that the results could be a bit better formatted, as in an easier overview
05:26 🔗 aggro SketchCow: He needs to be commended and keep doing this full time :D
05:32 🔗 db48x whoa, someone updated the front page of the wiki
05:44 🔗 * db48x sighs
05:45 🔗 db48x my zfs array is slightly fubar
05:56 🔗 SketchCow join #piczzz
06:56 🔗 SketchCow Adding some awesome donation from winr4r
06:56 🔗 SketchCow http://archive.org/details/ecsm-08-1985-05
07:12 🔗 db48x` SketchCow: that must have taken some effort to produce and distribute
07:29 🔗 db48x` so my zfs array is unusable, but at least the data is still all there
07:30 🔗 chronomex for now
07:30 🔗 db48x` heh
07:30 🔗 db48x` actually, I'd trust zfs to maintain the data even in this degraded state
07:30 🔗 db48x` the only thing that doesn't work is minor things like 'ls ~/archives'
07:31 🔗 chronomex trust nothing
07:31 🔗 db48x` except Merkle trees
07:31 🔗 db48x` the hilarious thing is that I can play movies off of the smb shares just fine
07:32 🔗 db48x` SketchCow: that tape is pretty funky
08:24 🔗 Schbirid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7S5fQoTjAs "Classic BBS Documentary"
08:24 🔗 Schbirid havent seen that before
09:21 🔗 Schbirid SketchCow: thanks for the entertaining http://archive.org/details/ecsm-08-1985-05
10:12 🔗 Schbirid the free ovh server rocks, i can highly recommend trying to get one
10:16 🔗 Schbirid i did not know a fraction of these http://www.rankpanel.com/blog/google-search-parameters/
10:43 🔗 qwer hey guys, can you tell me (if known) how big artscene.textfiles.com is?
10:46 🔗 Schbirid what ever you do, don't piss off SketchCow by doing a crazy wget
10:47 🔗 Schbirid mail artscene textfiles.com and ask how to best mirror/download it
10:50 🔗 qwer thanks for the advice, I'm on a limited timescale with my server though, hoping I hear back by the 15th ^-^
10:53 🔗 Schbirid then make sure to write verbosely, state why you want to do it etc
11:03 🔗 qwer i take it people have just run wget against textfiles sites and pissed SketchCow off before now XD
11:58 🔗 alard rsync says it's 136GB.
12:03 🔗 ersi Hmmm
12:04 🔗 ersi can you make wget with WARC support continue to output to a specific .warc? To make it append on the next run
12:14 🔗 alard No.
12:14 🔗 alard You can concatenate two warcs, if you must.
12:17 🔗 tef even two compressed warcs
12:20 🔗 db48x yes
12:20 🔗 db48x the individual records are compressed, not the file as a whole
12:21 🔗 db48x hrm
12:21 🔗 db48x there seems to be some data at the end of http://archive.org/details/ecsm-08-1985-05 side B
12:21 🔗 Schbirid yes
12:22 🔗 Schbirid spectrum stuff
12:22 🔗 Schbirid the guy says it in the beginning of that side
12:22 🔗 db48x ah, I see it on the inlay
12:26 🔗 tef db48x: if you're lucky
12:26 🔗 tef some people gzip the warc as-is rather than per record as per iso recommendation
12:27 🔗 db48x fun
12:27 🔗 tef yeah
12:28 🔗 db48x anyone have programs for extracting files stored on analog tape?
12:29 🔗 Schbirid nice http://zxspectrum4.net/cassette_tapes.php
12:35 🔗 db48x cool
12:35 🔗 db48x now how do I download the program? :)
12:36 🔗 db48x maybe it's part of the emulator
12:36 🔗 SketchCow http://archive.org/details/escm-cover-cassettes looking good.
12:44 🔗 alard tef/db48x: But even if the warcs are compressed as a whole you can still concatenate them, of course.
12:44 🔗 tef yup
12:47 🔗 Schbirid this is fucking awesome http://contemporary-home-computing.org/1tb/archives/3297 "Birdseye view on www.geocities.com"
12:48 🔗 Schbirid i am so gonna do that with fileplanet
12:50 🔗 db48x :)
12:51 🔗 db48x does the menu button in that emulator work for you guys?
12:53 🔗 db48x perhaps it only works in the registered version
12:56 🔗 Schbirid http://contemporary-home-computing.org/1tb/archives/3082
12:59 🔗 Schbirid i'll try to publically host the gamespy forums once they are gone, would be very interesting to see what happens if i do that
13:02 🔗 * db48x yawns
13:02 🔗 db48x time to sleep
13:03 🔗 Schbirid nighty
13:04 🔗 db48x Schbirid: I look forward to seeing a treemap of fileplanet
13:04 🔗 Schbirid it's gonna be huge chunks of modern games :(
13:04 🔗 db48x and a gazillion tiny dots for the doom wad files
13:05 🔗 Schbirid sadly fileplanet aint that old
13:05 🔗 Schbirid 1997 or something, some old quake was the beginning
13:05 🔗 db48x mmm
13:06 🔗 db48x probably still has some wad files
13:06 🔗 db48x anyway, sleep
13:06 🔗 Schbirid 1999 actually
13:06 🔗 Schbirid yeah, sure
13:06 🔗 db48x perchance to dream
13:09 🔗 Schbirid heh, the contemporary-home-computing.org/1tb guy is the same who did the music of one of my favourite chiptune / pop songs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qHepmPmODM
13:14 🔗 ivan` oh dear, I just learned that libgen is 8.5TB and not 2.5TB
13:15 🔗 ivan` http://cryptome.org/2012/03/library-genesis.htm
13:16 🔗 ivan` or not, dunno what's up with the numbers in this document
14:21 🔗 godane ivan`: Then how come on the donations page i can get 15 years of cryptome on 2-4 dvds?
14:21 🔗 godane his 15.5 years is ~14gb
14:21 🔗 SketchCow My speech at the LoC tomorrow is mostly about how great alard is
14:23 🔗 ivan` godane: cryptome does not contain libgen :)
14:23 🔗 godane what is libgen?
14:23 🔗 ivan` Library Genesis
14:26 🔗 godane we need a bigger boat
14:28 🔗 godane SketchCow: We have diggnation archived: http://archive.org/details/diggnation
14:31 🔗 godane i'm also uploading crankygeeks episode 217
14:32 🔗 godane once crankygeeks is done i will start on dl.tv
14:32 🔗 godane or maybe the screen savers
14:41 🔗 BlueMax SketchCow, what did alard do :P
14:55 🔗 ersi BlueMax: Question is, what HASN'T he done.
14:55 🔗 BlueMax Me.
14:56 🔗 ersi Harr harr
14:58 🔗 BlueMax man I'd love to be privately tutored by one of you guys :P
15:27 🔗 ersi Uh, okay. How about you do something instead :P
15:28 🔗 ersi that's how I roll, try to do stuff and ask questions/for help if needed be
15:29 🔗 BlueMax lol, I don't know shit about anything Linux related
15:38 🔗 SmileyG step one, install virtual box
15:38 🔗 SmileyG step two, try and install distro of your choice onto virtual box
15:42 🔗 BlueMax SmileyG, what do I do from there :P
15:42 🔗 SmileyG play
15:42 🔗 SmileyG try and do something you want to do
15:44 🔗 SmileyG give your self some aim
15:44 🔗 BlueMax That's a question, what CAN I do on a Linux system
15:45 🔗 SmileyG Everythiung you could do on windows.
15:45 🔗 BlueMax well, except Steam
15:46 🔗 BlueMax should I start with a particular distro?
15:47 🔗 SmileyG find one which sounds interesting
15:47 🔗 SmileyG BlueMax: you can run steam with fine
15:47 🔗 SmileyG wine*
15:48 🔗 BlueMax but it's thousand or so games?
15:48 🔗 SmileyG vm! :D
15:48 🔗 SmileyG I don't play games so...
15:48 🔗 BlueMax Some sort of inception-style thing
15:49 🔗 BlueMax I don't know what distro to start with - Ubuntu, Debian, SUSE, Linux Mint, Fedora, geez
15:50 🔗 bsmith093 gaming in dreams, neat, I want that!
15:50 🔗 SmileyG Oh i do that.
15:50 🔗 SmileyG gentoo \o/
15:50 🔗 SmileyG this duscsion should likely be in -bs
15:51 🔗 BlueMax fair enogh, carry it over to there?
15:55 🔗 godane is archive.org having problems?
15:56 🔗 godane my crankygeeks_221_episode item is saying the item is not public
15:56 🔗 godane i just submited all the info need like 5 mins ago
15:56 🔗 godane normally never takes this long
15:57 🔗 Angantyr Bluemax i recommend Lubuntu, it's like ubuntu but without all the crap and the retared interface.
15:57 🔗 Angantyr retarded+
15:57 🔗 Angantyr and it runs on a pentium 2
15:58 🔗 BlueMax wow, lol
15:58 🔗 BlueMax Doesn't sound like a bad place to start
16:02 🔗 ersi Alright, move over to #archiveteam-bs if you're gonna talk linux and stuff
16:02 🔗 ersi oh, you did. Well, good. :)
16:03 🔗 SmileyG :)
16:04 🔗 BlueMax stop with the :) argh making me feel all warm inside
16:05 🔗 SmileyG :D
16:37 🔗 godane SketchCow: can you get this job started: http://archive.org/details/crankygeeks_221_episode
18:40 🔗 arkhive Was there ever a Google Wave backup? I asked this yesterday but was disconnected before I saw a reply.
18:55 🔗 SmileyG wen't waves all basically private?
19:05 🔗 * Dvorak wonders when we will have to download myspace XD
19:20 🔗 Coderjoe current closure funding level: $21861
19:24 🔗 db48x SmileyG: yes
19:24 🔗 db48x arkhive: a wave was like an email; only the participants can see it
19:59 🔗 godane some please fix this: http://archive.org/details/crankygeeks_221_episode
20:00 🔗 godane its still not pubic yet
20:11 🔗 closure Coderjoe: cool, I was too busy coding it to notice it'd gone up a good amount today
20:11 🔗 * closure has to keep reminding himself he's not making $200/hour .. more like $10/hour
20:35 🔗 arkhive db48x: I thought anyone could see it when you add the 'public' bot?
20:46 🔗 db48x yea, that's true
20:47 🔗 db48x it would have been interesting to try to save those
20:47 🔗 db48x there wasn't any global index of them though
20:52 🔗 arkhive What do you mean?
20:53 🔗 db48x well, it wasn't like you could go to some page and see a list of all the public waves
20:54 🔗 arkhive Couldn't you use the same technique the MobileMe backup used?
20:54 🔗 db48x you had to be invited, or someone had to post a link on their own webpage to a specific one
20:54 🔗 db48x for mobileme we were able to get a really good user list
20:54 🔗 db48x by querying google, mostly
20:55 🔗 db48x and sure, we could have queryied google to find a list of links posted to webpages
20:55 🔗 db48x but even if we had a list of google wave users, there was no way to query a list of their waves
20:56 🔗 arkhive no, all of the waves with the 'public' bot as a participant were searchable in google wave by typing with:public
20:56 🔗 arkhive with colon public
20:56 🔗 arkhive all of them would show up when using that search term
20:58 🔗 db48x hmm. maybe I missed that
20:59 🔗 arkhive http://www.scoroncocolo.com/howdoesgooglewavework.jpg
21:00 🔗 db48x cool
22:10 🔗 ersi The Wave party is way past due date though.
22:23 🔗 arkhive ya..unfortunately
22:28 🔗 alard If anyone likes looking at incomplete and messy Python scripts, or has ideas about a Python version of the seesaw scripts, have a look: https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/seesaw-kit
22:41 🔗 Aranje joepie91:) ^ That may pique your interest
22:43 🔗 joepie91 Needs the event-driven Twisted library.
22:43 🔗 joepie91 nope.avi
22:43 🔗 joepie91 @ Aranje
22:43 🔗 Aranje haha :P
22:44 🔗 Aranje Yeah well
22:44 🔗 Aranje :P
22:44 🔗 Aranje You're free to rewrite it without twisted
22:44 🔗 joepie91 meh
22:46 🔗 alard joepie91: Anything wrong with Twisted?
22:48 🔗 joepie91 alard: yes... it's horribly badly documented
22:49 🔗 alard Ah, yes, it seems somewhat complex. Any other suggestions? (It's the first library I found. It worked better than the multiprocessing library.)
22:50 🔗 joepie91 I feel most comfortable with using well-documented task-specific libraries (that's urllib2 for HTTP-based retrieval)
22:50 🔗 joepie91 for just about every protocol there's a library that is properly documented
22:50 🔗 joepie91 apart from that, standard library stuff
22:51 🔗 joepie91 documentation is an ongoing problem for Python and Python libs though
22:52 🔗 alard It's a relatively small part of the thing, I need it to run subprocesses, capture the output, run one or more at a time.
22:52 🔗 joepie91 right, you can just use the subprocess module for that
22:52 🔗 joepie91 from standard lib
22:52 🔗 joepie91 unless you mean something else with subprocesses
22:52 🔗 alard No, it needs to run wget, rsync, other external scripts.
22:53 🔗 joepie91 yes, you'd use subprocess for that
22:53 🔗 joepie91 http://docs.python.org/library/subprocess.html
22:54 🔗 alard I started with that.
22:54 🔗 alard It does awkward things with buffering output, it seems.
22:54 🔗 joepie91 oh?
22:55 🔗 joepie91 I haven't seen any issues with it tbh
22:55 🔗 joepie91 also, rsync in pure python: http://blog.liw.fi/posts/rsync-in-python/
22:56 🔗 joepie91 (if I am reading correctly)
22:56 🔗 alard Maybe I didn't try hard enough. (Maybe it's just if you use communicate().)
22:56 🔗 alard That's just the rsync delta algorithm.
22:57 🔗 alard I can google :) There are several of those, but they don't actually upload, and they're possibly slower.
22:58 🔗 joepie91 yes, click the link to the repo
22:58 🔗 joepie91 that page just has the excerpt
22:58 🔗 joepie91 :p
22:58 🔗 alard So, I'll have a look at the subprocess library again, but I'm not sure it's easy to handle multiple subprocesses at a time.
22:59 🔗 joepie91 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/984941/python-subprocess-popen-from-a-thread
22:59 🔗 joepie91 specifically http://stackoverflow.com/a/4872639
23:00 🔗 alard So then I should feed that back to the original thread.
23:00 🔗 alard The good thing about twisted is that it, well, does all of that, even though it's sparsely documented. :)
23:01 🔗 joepie91 well... I've tried using Twisted several times
23:01 🔗 joepie91 practically every time it took me longer to decipher how to do it in Twisted
23:01 🔗 joepie91 than to implement it myself
23:05 🔗 alard Well, I'll have another look later. Time for some sleep now. Bye.
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