#archiveteam 2012-06-27,Wed

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00:07 🔗 godane uploaded: http://archive.org/details/dltv_068_episode
00:07 🔗 godane :-D
03:04 🔗 shaqfu Does Efnet have a good browser client, a la mibbit?
03:04 🔗 shaqfu Might need to log on from work to catch up with Schbirid; we're on opposite shifts :(
03:32 🔗 chronomex shaqfu: http://chat.efnet.org/
03:34 🔗 shaqfu chronomex: Thanks; even has a snazzy new interface
03:34 🔗 shaqfu Hopefully it doesn't get caught in the NetNanny :(
04:05 🔗 godane SketchCow: what the hell happen here: http://archive.org/details/20040229-bbs-lcrumbling
04:05 🔗 godane the ogg video and 512kb mpeg4 is ~12mb
04:05 🔗 godane when the source mpeg2 is 1.3gb
04:06 🔗 godane i think those files need to recreate
04:18 🔗 chronomex looks like
04:31 🔗 godane maybe a fundrasier for jason scott to get all the bbs interviews up
04:31 🔗 godane thiink maybe it will get him to do it
05:00 🔗 Coderjoe wow
05:00 🔗 Coderjoe that interview item has quite a long task history
05:14 🔗 godane first 70 episodes of dl.tv is up
05:33 🔗 DFJustin the video derivatives can be a lot smaller if the source is HD because it downscales
05:34 🔗 DFJustin that said it doesn't seek properly in this case so something probably went wrong
06:30 🔗 closure awesome, I just managed to use _Creating GeoCities Websites_ to round out an Amazon order and get free shipping
06:32 🔗 Coderjoe yes, something went horribly wrong in the last derive.php process 3.6 years ago. it deleted a lot of thumbnails and the other derivatives and then, for some reason (ffmpeg bug? I don't see an error message in the log file) only created 4 thumbnail images and the short incomplete video files.
06:32 🔗 chronomex yeah, I didn't see anything indicative of badness either
06:35 🔗 godane Coderjoe: May explain way most mp3s for bbs docs are under 1kbyte too
06:35 🔗 godane the ogg files look fine
06:35 🔗 godane for the size
06:39 🔗 underscor SketchCow will have to tap that item. I don't have permissions for that collection to trigger a rederive
06:40 🔗 chronomex I'd tap that
06:41 🔗 godane there is more that needs tapping
06:42 🔗 underscor Actually.
06:42 🔗 underscor I just got it through the secret backdoor way
06:42 🔗 underscor http://archive.org/catalog.php?history=1&identifier=20040229-bbs-lcrumbling
06:42 🔗 underscor Didn't know that worked. Neat.
06:42 🔗 chronomex the internet archive glory hole system
06:43 🔗 godane bad mp3: http://archive.org/details/1993-bbs-tbbstape
06:44 🔗 godane mp3 file is 816.0b
06:44 🔗 godane i want that compress if it worked
06:44 🔗 chronomex haha
06:44 🔗 underscor ok, let me make sure this derive runs properly first
06:44 🔗 godane we all cause have the internet archive audio version on a hard drive
06:45 🔗 underscor I don't want to fuck more than one item if the method I queued it with is fucked
06:45 🔗 chronomex godane: what does that mean? I can't understand you
06:45 🔗 underscor if mp3 really compressed that small
06:45 🔗 underscor we could fit all of ia's audio on a HD
06:45 🔗 godane maybe usb stick
06:45 🔗 underscor lol
06:46 🔗 godane even though i think IA will still need a big fat usb stick even at that compress
06:46 🔗 underscor yay, 12 tasks from running
06:47 🔗 underscor almost there
06:47 🔗 godane same problem: http://archive.org/details/20040229-bbs-schinnell
06:47 🔗 godane http://archive.org/details/20040128-bbs-willing
06:47 🔗 underscor Running
06:47 🔗 underscor http://www.us.archive.org/log_show.php?task_id=110466442
06:48 🔗 underscor Cross your fingers
06:48 🔗 Coderjoe i was tempted to try mashing a button I can see for the item
06:48 🔗 godane http://archive.org/details/22020525-bbs-milkyliz3
06:49 🔗 underscor it looks like the source file may be corrupt
06:49 🔗 underscor but we'll see
06:50 🔗 Coderjoe does the files.xml info match the file?
06:50 🔗 underscor even if it is, our deriver is much better at recovering from shit than it was 5 years ago
06:50 🔗 underscor ffmpeg improvements, etc
06:50 🔗 godane i hope not
06:50 🔗 underscor hm?
06:51 🔗 godane jason scott has not update anything in the bbs docs for 5 years
06:51 🔗 godane one thing if all interviews was there
06:51 🔗 godane but there not
06:51 🔗 godane i just fear the full intervews will be lost
06:51 🔗 godane thats all
06:53 🔗 underscor https://internetarchive.etherpad.mozilla.org/5
06:53 🔗 underscor Please list bad identifiers there
06:53 🔗 underscor IDENTIFIERS ONLY
06:54 🔗 underscor I will trigger a redrive
06:54 🔗 Coderjoe this derive seems to be taking longer than the last one initiated by tracey, which is almost certainly a good thing.
06:54 🔗 underscor absolutely
06:54 🔗 Coderjoe (for the thumbnail generation step alone)
06:55 🔗 underscor It's also much bigger than the TV she's deriving
06:55 🔗 underscor so it makes sense
06:55 🔗 Coderjoe no, I meant the last derive on this interview item
06:56 🔗 Coderjoe back on one of the (now apparently defunct) ia3* nodes
06:56 🔗 underscor oic
06:56 🔗 underscor yes, ia3* is (was?) the thumper farm
06:57 🔗 chronomex thumper?
06:57 🔗 underscor http://archive.org/images/petabox-via.jpg
06:57 🔗 underscor ^ thumpers
06:57 🔗 underscor they still exist/are in service, but repurposed
06:57 🔗 underscor godane: Identifiers only please in that list
06:57 🔗 underscor so not archive.org/details/blah
06:57 🔗 underscor just blah
06:57 🔗 Coderjoe I know of the old via red boxes
06:58 🔗 chronomex oh. thumper.
06:58 🔗 ersi thump thump
06:59 🔗 Coderjoe thumbnail stage complete. thumbnail on the detail page looks a heck of a lot better
06:59 🔗 underscor I actually have our "display" rack right next to me
07:00 🔗 underscor guarded by sharkive
07:00 🔗 underscor http://i.imgur.com/FizaK.jpg
07:00 🔗 underscor (which is our remote controlled mylar balloon)
07:01 🔗 chronomex nice photo
07:01 🔗 underscor haha
07:01 🔗 underscor it's my shit camera phone
07:02 🔗 chronomex it could do with some aiming next time
07:02 🔗 underscor I was taking it blind
07:02 🔗 underscor hard to get a good angle
07:03 🔗 godane i believe i got all of them
07:03 🔗 underscor ok
07:03 🔗 godane these only have mp3 problems
07:03 🔗 underscor kicking it off shortly
07:03 🔗 underscor All of them only need the mp3s rederived?
07:03 🔗 underscor (cause I can set that)
07:04 🔗 godane also i got this i want to add to shareware cds: http://archive.org/details/cdrom-3d-world-119
07:04 🔗 underscor I can't do that
07:04 🔗 godane and this: http://archive.org/details/cdrom-3d-world-150
07:04 🔗 underscor jason will be mad
07:04 🔗 godane ok
07:04 🔗 underscor queuing the derives is something within my scope
07:04 🔗 godane ok
07:04 🔗 godane sorry
07:05 🔗 underscor hacking the permissions system, while possible, is not in my job description
07:05 🔗 underscor and the last thing I want is more talkings-to from SketchCow
07:05 🔗 underscor np :)
07:05 🔗 underscor just want you to know why
07:05 🔗 chronomex oh really, I bet I could come up with stuff that you're less interested in
07:06 🔗 godane i maybe getting a bigger hard drive soon
07:06 🔗 underscor The derive thing isn't really a circumvention. Moving collections is me going in and changing items and manually updating mysql tables. Lots of room for error and fuckery, so better to let a superadmin take care of it
07:06 🔗 godane i hope
07:06 🔗 godane ok
07:06 🔗 underscor (where they have access to the easy web page that just works (tm)
07:06 🔗 underscor )
07:06 🔗 chronomex plus, circumventing perms would not create the correct audit trail
07:06 🔗 underscor ^
07:06 🔗 chronomex all kinds of wrong
07:07 🔗 underscor which is why I'm not doing it. I'm slowly learning.
07:07 🔗 godane me too
07:07 🔗 underscor SketchCow's lessons aren't all going to waste
07:07 🔗 chronomex that's reassuring
07:07 🔗 godane of course i'm backing up like very thing
07:07 🔗 underscor fuck it, doing a full redrive of all those items
07:07 🔗 underscor The other derivatives may be fucked
07:07 🔗 underscor and I don't feel like dealing with it
07:07 🔗 godane agree
07:08 🔗 chronomex sounds reasonable
07:08 🔗 godane but i played with most of them and most of the videos are fine
07:08 🔗 underscor So I have a script that's supposed to list the statuses of torrents in deluge
07:08 🔗 underscor and this is what it just gave me
07:08 🔗 underscor 1 Jeremy
07:08 🔗 underscor 325 Seeding
07:08 🔗 underscor 63 Downloading
07:08 🔗 underscor hahahahaha
07:09 🔗 underscor something's obviously borked there
07:10 🔗 underscor ok, rederives queued
07:10 🔗 underscor Priority 0 tasks
07:10 🔗 underscor So they should start immediately.
07:10 🔗 underscor All running.
07:11 🔗 underscor holy fuck
07:11 🔗 underscor http://archive.org/details/diggnation
07:11 🔗 underscor that should be a collection with each video in an item
07:11 🔗 underscor goddamn, Famicoman hehehe
07:11 🔗 underscor http://archive.org/catalog.php?history=1&identifier=diggnation
07:11 🔗 underscor 21 day derive hahahahaha
07:12 🔗 underscor that poor worker
07:16 🔗 ersi underscor: So you got one torrent which is Jeremying?
07:16 🔗 ersi Pretty awesome if you ask me
07:16 🔗 underscor :D
07:17 🔗 underscor and on the other host
07:17 🔗 underscor 1 Holy
07:17 🔗 underscor 51 Seeding
07:17 🔗 underscor 701 Downloading
07:17 🔗 underscor must be a copy of the bible or something
07:21 🔗 godane underscor: Thats what Famicoman does
07:21 🔗 godane its meant to make it one stop shop
07:22 🔗 underscor yeah, but it breaks our system
07:22 🔗 Coderjoe i was told to do one item per video for the stage6 collection
07:22 🔗 Coderjoe most likely for this (and related) reason(s)
07:23 🔗 Coderjoe plus, darking one video is easier when each is a separate item
07:23 🔗 godane some of the rev3 stuff it was ok i think
07:23 🔗 underscor I dunno
07:23 🔗 underscor Not my call
07:23 🔗 godane like unboxing porn
07:23 🔗 godane http://archive.org/details/unboxingporn
07:23 🔗 underscor But I'll bring it up tommorrow when alexis is back.
07:24 🔗 godane i would have perfer diggnation by year
07:24 🔗 godane just so it would be easyier on archive.org
07:26 🔗 Coderjoe sweet jesus that item is wrong on so many levels. on the plus side, it shouldn't have a need to add new files to it (and thus possibly triggering another couple month long derive)
07:27 🔗 Coderjoe (the diggnation one is the one I am talking about)
07:28 🔗 Coderjoe over 400 episodes in one item. I don't think the system was intended to work like this.
07:29 🔗 Coderjoe and I don't feel like writing the xml parsing crap I would need to do in order to sum up the original file sizes. I suspect this item is much larger than desired, even before derivatives
07:30 🔗 Coderjoe woopwoop?
07:30 🔗 underscor size: 236,398,442 KB
07:30 🔗 underscor yowch
07:32 🔗 godane i'm not doing it with dl.tv and crankygeeks luckly
07:32 🔗 Coderjoe oh yeah. I forgot about that method
07:32 🔗 godane dl.tv is like 50gb of video
07:32 🔗 godane crankgeeks is like 30gb
07:37 🔗 underscor I am off to bed
07:38 🔗 underscor please PM me if any of those derives explode
07:38 🔗 underscor rather
07:38 🔗 underscor email me
07:38 🔗 underscor abuie@archive.org
07:38 🔗 Coderjoe oh god! a derive exploded. I have pieces of mpeg2 file stuck in my leg!
07:38 🔗 mutoso xD
07:38 🔗 Coderjoe s/pieces/bits/ ?
07:39 🔗 mutoso Yeah, better.
07:39 🔗 Coderjoe sleep sounds like an excellent idea
07:40 🔗 underscor have to get up early tomorrow
07:40 🔗 underscor going to redwood city with mario to work on the ia7* datacenter
07:40 🔗 underscor replace disks, rack new hardware, install switches, etc
07:40 🔗 underscor \o/
07:40 🔗 Coderjoe sounds fun
07:41 🔗 underscor For me it is.
07:41 🔗 underscor Probably not a lot of people
07:41 🔗 underscor haha
07:43 🔗 chronomex wtf, rsync, why aren't you happy
07:43 🔗 chronomex it found and skipped the already transferred gigabytes, but seems to have hung
07:44 🔗 chronomex (this is for yet another multigigabyte memac user)
07:44 🔗 Deewiant It should continue at some point, I don't know what it's doing there
07:44 🔗 Deewiant It's happened to me, too; eventually they finished
07:45 🔗 chronomex eventually = ?
07:46 🔗 Deewiant By the next day? :-P Dunno, didn't watch them, just noticed them getting stuck
07:47 🔗 chronomex well, shit, okay, I'll just have to deal with my connection not getting fucked
07:47 🔗 chronomex hah
07:47 🔗 Deewiant It might only be some minutes, I really didn't pay attention
07:47 🔗 chronomex ah, there it goes
07:53 🔗 omf_ I am interested in helping out with the fanfiction.net archiving. The other channel is dead right now.
07:56 🔗 bsmith093 omf_: we're pretty much done with that for now. there's presumably some project to do a continuous scrape to stay on top of it, but, we've probably got everything before the purge hit
07:56 🔗 bsmith093 stupid admins finally decided to enforce a long ignored content rating rule, and start deleting stoires
07:57 🔗 omf_ aah
07:57 🔗 bsmith093 to clarify, THE SITE ITSELF IS NOT GOING ANYWHERE!!! anytime soon, that I know of, I just thought it would be a good idea to grab it, cause it's the biggest
07:58 🔗 bsmith093 at the time i wasnt even aware of the upcoming purge
07:58 🔗 omf_ yeah I was interested in it to do some nlp work
07:58 🔗 bsmith093 nlp?
07:58 🔗 omf_ natural language processing
07:58 🔗 omf_ it is hard to find large chunks of modern text
07:58 🔗 bsmith093 ooooooh, Google would love that!
07:58 🔗 bsmith093 porjoect gutenberg, and wikipedia work well?
07:59 🔗 chronomex pg is not really modern
07:59 🔗 omf_ project gutenberg has a format consistency problem
07:59 🔗 omf_ and wikipedia is fine for non-fiction writing
08:00 🔗 omf_ Well onto my next idea. I am going to update the deathwatch page for berlios.de and delicious
08:00 🔗 bsmith093 ive got dozens of stories in a consistent format downloaded off fanfiction.net for my own library, by a tool i got from google code
08:01 🔗 bsmith093 also you might want to add dead dying damned to the dead column :)
08:01 🔗 omf_ berlios got saved and the new delicious does not have any of the old content
08:03 🔗 bsmith093 anyway i have 1705 stories, saved in text format, ( _italics_ *bold*) with metadata at the beginning of each file, 281mb if you want it
08:03 🔗 bsmith093 the archive we saved will be up soon, presumably, ask SketchCow
08:08 🔗 Cameron_D I'm unable to edit wiki pages :/ "Call to undefined method Article::getSection()"
08:08 🔗 ersi That's a feature, not a bug
08:09 🔗 ersi nah, but SketchCow has said the wiki needs some techlove ^
08:10 🔗 Cameron_D Well I suppose the feature stops the bots
08:45 🔗 omf_ Are there any criteria for adding sites to "dead as a doornail" other than it being dead
08:47 🔗 godane uploading screen savers from may 2004
09:01 🔗 omf_ So what projects need help? The apple one sounds like it is almost complete
09:09 🔗 chronomex omf_: well, it's probably best to stick to sites that archiveteam has or would have archived.
09:09 🔗 chronomex re: the wiki
09:10 🔗 omf_ chronomex, that is what I mean. I only have one example gameart.org It had almost 10 years worth of gaming art
09:10 🔗 omf_ then it went down
09:11 🔗 chronomex ok
09:11 🔗 chronomex /me zzzz
09:13 🔗 omf_ I have been getting more and more into big data projects so I am excited at what is out there.
09:29 🔗 omf_ I saw a note on the site about doing comparisons to remove duplicate images from the geocities data. Anyone know what the status of that is?
09:37 🔗 omf_ Also the tracker for FortuneCity is offline so I cannot find out the status of the archiving that took place before it closed earlier this year.
09:44 🔗 ersi omf_: What information were you looking for? At the FoCity tracker I mean
10:22 🔗 omf_ ersi, just to see if the project got completed or things were missed. I had a few sets of pages on there I wouldn't mind seeing again
10:29 🔗 ersi omf_: AFAIK all of the users/pages that we were able to crawl were downloaded. That does however not say anything about the completeness in general I guess.
10:30 🔗 ersi alard: Know if we got the dataset of all user/url's left anywhere?
10:36 🔗 alard http://archive.org/details/archiveteam-fortunecity-list
10:37 🔗 alard and http://archive.org/details/archiveteam-fortunecity
10:38 🔗 alard omf_/ersi: and http://archive.org/download/test-memac-index-test/fortunecity.html
10:40 🔗 omf_ that is cool
10:42 🔗 ersi Ah, yeah - that was what I was looking for.
10:42 🔗 alard Good things come to those who search. :)
10:42 🔗 ersi :D
11:24 🔗 omf_ Is there a mailing list to follow or is an ear to the irc channel and an eye on the wiki the way to go.
11:26 🔗 Famicoman underscor, you can kill the derive if that would help.
11:33 🔗 ersi omf_: No mailing list, this is where the magic happens
11:34 🔗 ersi and in the sub-channels of course (like #wikiteam, #urlteam) and project specific channels
12:34 🔗 omf_ Is there a sub-group for maintaining the wiki
13:14 🔗 fLoo hi all
13:14 🔗 fLoo just found your project and i love it
13:14 🔗 fLoo :)
13:21 🔗 fLoo is there a tool for windows available too ?
13:22 🔗 fLoo so i can integrate some workstations in the process ?
13:45 🔗 ersi fLoo: Yeah, there's the "Archiveteam Warrior" - which is a Virtual Machine you boot up and can help out with projects
13:45 🔗 ersi Link to "AT-warrior" is in /topic
13:46 🔗 fLoo already found it, thanks
13:46 🔗 fLoo contributing 12 gbit now
13:46 🔗 fLoo hope that helps
13:48 🔗 ersi Whoa man
13:48 🔗 ersi You at some university or something?
13:49 🔗 fLoo nope
13:49 🔗 fLoo datacenter
13:49 🔗 fLoo got some nice machines here
13:52 🔗 omf_ is anyone working on the usenet history dump?
13:52 🔗 omf_ currently
13:55 🔗 omf_ I just remembered about this: http://www.psych.ualberta.ca/~westburylab/downloads/usenetcorpus.download.html
13:56 🔗 omf_ which is 28M posts were collected from 2005-2009
13:56 🔗 fLoo is there a way to check how many packages at all + gigabytes i uploaded ?
13:57 🔗 omf_ it is 40gb
14:06 🔗 fLoo mmmh
14:06 🔗 fLoo i dont find anything to see how much i contributed
14:06 🔗 fLoo :(
14:08 🔗 fLoo gogo guys
14:17 🔗 fLoo ersi: http://memac.heroku.com/ looks good
14:17 🔗 fLoo :)
14:21 🔗 DFJustin hmm looks like they stripped a lot of stuff such that it's useful as a corpus but not so much for history
14:21 🔗 mistym DFJustin: What's that?
14:22 🔗 DFJustin <omf_> I just remembered about this: http://www.psych.ualberta.ca/~westburylab/downloads/usenetcorpus.download.html
14:22 🔗 omf_ It is a starting point for that time
14:22 🔗 mistym Thanks
14:22 🔗 omf_ the old archives were easier to find
14:23 🔗 omf_ it is going to be the more recent posts that are going to be the problem
14:23 🔗 omf_ why did google have to buyout dejanews
14:33 🔗 omf_ over 700 million posts in google groups. Subtract 1981-1991 and the last 5 years
14:33 🔗 omf_ and then consider that not every post is a thread.
14:34 🔗 omf_ it is still going to take some clever work
14:46 🔗 mistym https://twitter.com/archiveteam/status/212618778968731649 So hey, what's this about?
14:54 🔗 omf_ I found someone else trying to do a usenet archive like google. That at least easies the field a little
15:18 🔗 DFJustin http://www.fortunecity.ws/
15:32 🔗 Schbirid http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Freiwillige-legen-Archiv-oeffentlicher-MobileMe-Daten-an-1626844.html
15:33 🔗 ersi cool
15:33 🔗 Schbirid the comments are full of angry trolling about how private data should be forbidden to be used "like this"
15:33 🔗 Schbirid :D
15:34 🔗 mistym You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
15:35 🔗 ersi Yeah yeah, people can whine as much as they want - what matters is that the data is not totally gone though :)
15:35 🔗 Schbirid mistym: me? what word?
15:36 🔗 DFJustin it's not trolling if they genuinely believe it
15:36 🔗 mistym Schbirid: It's a movie quote. :V Was talking about "private"
15:36 🔗 Schbirid right
15:37 🔗 ersi DFJustin: What about fortunecity.ws? >_>
15:38 🔗 fLoo Schbirid
15:38 🔗 fLoo due to this article i came here
15:38 🔗 fLoo and now i'm contributing ;)
15:38 🔗 Schbirid sweet
15:38 🔗 Schbirid welcome
15:38 🔗 fLoo thanks
15:39 🔗 DFJustin just noting its existence
15:40 🔗 ersi DFJustin: ah, alright
15:44 🔗 fLoo guys
15:44 🔗 fLoo i just saw that there is a seesaw-s3 script
15:44 🔗 fLoo which is perfect for my bandwidth
15:44 🔗 fLoo but it requires access-tokens
15:44 🔗 fLoo howto acquire them ?
15:45 🔗 Schbirid fLoo: i asked about that a while ago and was told it was not worth using at the moment
15:45 🔗 fLoo ok
15:45 🔗 fLoo currently i run 20 instances of seesaw per machine
15:45 🔗 fLoo still only 25 % bw used
15:45 🔗 fLoo :(
15:46 🔗 Schbirid wel, stick around. the next bandwidth eating project will come
15:46 🔗 alard fLoo: The seesaw-s3 script doesn't download any faster, it's just the upload that's different.
15:46 🔗 fLoo ok, then its np
15:46 🔗 alard The problem with the normal seesaw script is that everything ends up on one machine, which fills up.
15:46 🔗 fLoo uploading is fine here with ~ 60-70 mbit per connection
15:46 🔗 alard The seesaw-s3 script uploads directly to archive.org, so that was very helpful for the bulk downloaders.
15:47 🔗 fLoo i understand, thanks for the information
15:47 🔗 alard Thank's for helping!
15:47 🔗 fLoo its a cool project
15:47 🔗 fLoo :)
15:47 🔗 fLoo is there a way to get my own statistics ?
15:48 🔗 fLoo i mean my complete contribution-stats ?
15:48 🔗 alard http://memac.heroku.com/
15:48 🔗 fLoo yea, but howto query for a single user ?
15:48 🔗 fLoo AHHH
15:49 🔗 fLoo there is a freaking '+' button
15:49 🔗 fLoo seriously .. couldnt see it
15:52 🔗 alard fortunecity.ws is a bit strange: pages full of disclaimers and pseudo-legal texts, but nothing at all about the nature of the site, the source of the data etc.
15:54 🔗 ersi Indeed
16:13 🔗 fLoo schbirid what do you use to crawl ?
16:13 🔗 fLoo i dont think its your hansenet account ;)
16:14 🔗 Schbirid ovh server(s)
16:14 🔗 fLoo just saw it
16:15 🔗 fLoo another question: why does archiveteam announce that we're finished with the project
16:15 🔗 fLoo but there are still 20k missing
16:15 🔗 Schbirid where was that announced?
16:17 🔗 fLoo heise etc
16:17 🔗 fLoo twitter
16:17 🔗 DFJustin I think the deal is we've been though them all once now and this is the stuff that didn't work right on the first pass
16:17 🔗 Schbirid oh, SketchCow tweeted that indeed https://twitter.com/archiveteam/status/217665111895191552
16:18 🔗 Schbirid fLoo: do you have old pc/game mag cover discs? rip them!
16:19 🔗 DFJustin for example stuff was added to the script to handle infinitely recursive folders
16:19 🔗 fLoo Schbirid: lol why ?
16:20 🔗 Schbirid fLoo: to archive them at archive.org
16:20 🔗 fLoo gonna see what i still got
16:20 🔗 mistym So hey, speaking of tweets, who was this / what is this about? https://twitter.com/archiveteam/status/212618778968731649
16:20 🔗 fLoo playstation 1 games too ?
16:21 🔗 DFJustin fLoo: one of our side projects is http://archive.org/details/cdbbsarchive
16:22 🔗 DFJustin old magazine and shareware discs are a great source of stuff that isn't available online anymore
16:22 🔗 Schbirid yeah
16:23 🔗 DFJustin playstation I'm not sure because I think they need to be ripped using special procedures to be correct
16:24 🔗 mistym Playstation is not exactly endangered material either. Shareware is much more ephemeral.
16:26 🔗 Schbirid playstation demo discs had weird demos on them
16:29 🔗 mistym Oh yeah, demo discs, that's true.
16:30 🔗 mistym I know a guy who spent years tracking down a Japanese demo disc with the only playable copy of an obscure cancelled game he was obsessed with.
16:30 🔗 Nemo_bis did he find it?
16:30 🔗 mistym He did!
16:30 🔗 Nemo_bis so it's already on archive.org isn't it? :)
16:30 🔗 mistym Turns out: pretty good game. Even the demo is very incomplete though.
16:31 🔗 mistym Amazingly - no. It is not.
16:31 🔗 mistym Maybe it should be?
16:31 🔗 Nemo_bis very very bad
16:31 🔗 Nemo_bis of course it must
16:32 🔗 DFJustin I put a whole bunch of sega saturn demo discs in there but I haven't looked at other systems yet
16:37 🔗 mistym saturn, yay!
16:39 🔗 DFJustin http://archive.org/search.php?query=sega%20saturn%20AND%20collection%3Acdbbsarchive
16:39 🔗 DFJustin there's apparently a couple hundred that were made though
16:40 🔗 mistym I wonder if the Panzer Azel is like the UK magazine demo, which was just the whole first disc
17:46 🔗 Famicoman I should learn how to burn saturn and sega cd discs
18:18 🔗 DFJustin I don't think they have any copy protection
18:23 🔗 mistym Famicoman, DFJustin: Saturn has copy protection, need a swap trick or modded system to play. Sega CD has no protection
18:52 🔗 godane may 2004 screen savers is uploaded: http://archive.org/details/TechTV_TSS_2004_05_Full_Episodes
19:41 🔗 fLoo mmh
19:41 🔗 fLoo why isnt the list updated ?
21:58 🔗 SketchCow Morning.
21:58 🔗 SketchCow Or afternoon.
21:58 🔗 SketchCow Who rocked the opening keynote? This guy.
21:58 🔗 SketchCow What keynote video becomes available this evening? That one.
21:58 🔗 SketchCow The guy recording the keynote videos is amazing.
21:58 🔗 chronomex fuqyea, you talked at google IO!
22:06 🔗 SketchCow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OczqFEcUTA#t=6m1s
22:09 🔗 Nemo_bis fLoo, what list?

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