#archiveteam 2012-07-01,Sun

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00:55 🔗 underscor BlueMax: I really like that idea.
00:55 🔗 underscor Especially for people in countries with more limited internet
00:55 🔗 underscor that would be pretty cool
00:55 🔗 underscor "x size HD with whatever public archive content on it you want, signed by Brewster and other board members"
00:56 🔗 underscor dunno how popular it'd be, but...
01:07 🔗 BlueMax underscor, I thought since the point of hard drives were to store data... :P
01:07 🔗 underscor hehe
01:07 🔗 BlueMax I have no way to physically download Geocities if I want it :|
01:07 🔗 underscor well, these HAVE been used in datanodes, so I wouldn't really trust them as my backup source.
01:07 🔗 underscor but it would be cool to be able to say
01:07 🔗 underscor "I have x on a signed disk from this kickstarter"
01:09 🔗 BlueMax I would pay $100 for old drives with Geocities, and I'd probably pay more for SketchCow in a tutu
01:09 🔗 shaqfu BlueMax: That's the $15,000 reward
01:09 🔗 BlueMax ...
01:09 🔗 BlueMax we start a pool
01:09 🔗 BlueMax right now
01:10 🔗 BlueMax Loose change, prostitute muggings, everything
01:10 🔗 BlueMax WE MUST SEE SKETCHCOW IN A TUTU
01:10 🔗 godane i wish we knew where geocities drives was dumped
01:11 🔗 underscor BlueMax: :D
01:12 🔗 underscor :P
01:12 🔗 underscor I still need to clear the drive thing with the powers that be. Even though they're sitting on a shelf unused for year(s) doesn't mean they want to get rid of them
01:14 🔗 BlueMax Fair enough but that would be awesome.
01:15 🔗 BlueMax You'd probably have to tier HDD sizes though
01:16 🔗 BlueMax $50 gives 50GB for example, $100 gives 500, or something like that
01:16 🔗 underscor yeah
01:16 🔗 underscor I also have to talk to SketchCow, I don't know if he even likes the idea
01:17 🔗 shaqfu Honestly, the signed drives are cool, but the data on them isn't
01:17 🔗 shaqfu But I tend to underestimate the wow factor of history stuff
01:19 🔗 Coderjoe how much for a stargate-enhanced wifi link into IA?
01:20 🔗 shaqfu Hm, does IA even ship out data physically for very large requests?
01:20 🔗 Coderjoe (has to be an RF media layer, as apparently those are the only things that work bidirectionally)
01:20 🔗 BlueMax underscor, he said to ask you about it :P
01:20 🔗 underscor shaqfu: We have.
01:20 🔗 underscor It's a case-by-case thing.
01:21 🔗 underscor Coderjoe: If you let us put an antenna on your roof, we'll give you 100/100mbps microwave connectivity (in sf)
01:21 🔗 shaqfu underscor: Ah, neat. Glad to see researchers are using it
01:21 🔗 underscor microwave -> wifi
01:22 🔗 underscor There are like, uh, 80 participants or something? I dunno.
01:22 🔗 underscor (for the microwavelan)
01:23 🔗 Coderjoe yeah... I don't think that will work (without a number of relay sites)... 2300 miles by car, though it is nearly straight enough for it to be considered crow flies
01:24 🔗 underscor haha
01:24 🔗 underscor not quite. max range is like 28 klicks
01:25 🔗 BlueMax I'm surprised soccer moms aren't complaining about it
01:26 🔗 underscor BlueMax: Oh, so he did
01:26 🔗 underscor I missed that
01:31 🔗 balrog underscor: do you have access to the memac tracker?
01:31 🔗 underscor no. it's on alard's machine, iirc?
01:31 🔗 underscor or heroku
01:31 🔗 balrog the thing that clients ask for usernames from
01:31 🔗 balrog I'm having issues with 'iosoyyo' and it probably needs to be redone
01:32 🔗 balrog wget --mirror seems to be downloading many files many times repeatedly.
01:35 🔗 godane big problem with this video: http://archive.org/details/20040426-bbs-ebonyeyes
01:35 🔗 godane the video has no audio
01:35 🔗 godane but the mp3 does at least have sound
01:36 🔗 godane :-/
01:42 🔗 Famicoman that was the one I had to fix
01:43 🔗 godane i thought it was fine
01:43 🔗 godane cause the mp3 and ogg was made right just based on size of file
03:01 🔗 underscor godane: Famicoman: Does it need a rederive?
04:36 🔗 mistym SketchCow: New item for the Archive Team collection http://archive.org/details/montrealmirror_1997_2010
04:36 🔗 underscor mistym: moved once derive finishes.
04:37 🔗 mistym Thanks!
04:38 🔗 shaqfu Quebec thanks you
04:40 🔗 underscor mistym: http://archive.org/details/montrealmirror_1997_2010?reCache=1
04:41 🔗 mistym underscor: Excellent, thanks!
04:43 🔗 underscor np
04:43 🔗 underscor feel free to poke me for similar things
04:43 🔗 underscor since I'm usually less busy than SketchCow
04:44 🔗 shaqfu underscor: Could you rm http://archive.org/details/FileplanetFiles_134000-134999 and replace with http://archive.org/details/FileplanetFiles_134000-134999_2
04:44 🔗 mistym Will do.
04:45 🔗 shaqfu Just to keep continuity
04:45 🔗 underscor shaqfu: Nope. I can't make destructive changes.
04:45 🔗 shaqfu Ah :(
04:45 🔗 underscor That's a "superadmin" task
04:45 🔗 Coderjoe -bs?
04:45 🔗 underscor sorry
04:45 🔗 Coderjoe but why didn't you just fix the original?
04:46 🔗 shaqfu Coderjoe: It was uploaded by two different people
04:46 🔗 shaqfu (and it's an AT project)
04:46 🔗 Coderjoe yeah, I see that now
04:47 🔗 shaqfu The original flaked out somehow, and the uploader fell off the planet
04:47 🔗 Coderjoe did you try email?
04:47 🔗 shaqfu Hm, not yet
04:48 🔗 shaqfu #fireplanet was on fire, given that IGN pulled a fast one on us
04:48 🔗 shaqfu I'll email the original uploader now
04:49 🔗 Coderjoe if all of the content is in the _2 one, then i guess it isn't a huge deal
04:49 🔗 shaqfu It's just for the sake of making things easy later on, but yeah
04:49 🔗 shaqfu Nothing catastrophic
04:49 🔗 shaqfu Just need to tweak the index
04:50 🔗 mistym shaqfu: Pulled a fast one on you? What happened?
04:51 🔗 shaqfu mistym: schbirid contacted them about something, so in response, they changed the valid URL form
04:51 🔗 mistym Ahh
04:51 🔗 shaqfu It was fileplanet.com/download/[int]/
04:51 🔗 shaqfu Now it's fileplanet.com/download/[int]/[title]
04:51 🔗 shaqfu Good thing we scraped metadata earlier :D
04:53 🔗 Coderjoe in my process of downloading stage6 videos, they changed the steps needed to download the video at least twice
04:53 🔗 shaqfu How nasty?
04:53 🔗 shaqfu IGN did that - first they required referers, then titles
04:53 🔗 Coderjoe you still only needed to have the ID number to seed the process, but the last one involved downloading the page and getting some JS variables or something
04:54 🔗 shaqfu Ouch. Were you able to handle the JS invocation?
04:54 🔗 Coderjoe this was back in 2008, so my memory is a little fuzzy
04:54 🔗 shaqfu That was one bit of metadata we had to lose with FP
04:54 🔗 Coderjoe I just used grep to get the details, iirc
04:55 🔗 shaqfu Most of it was in the .html file, but there were some JS calls - thankfully, it was just DL count
04:58 🔗 Coderjoe if you want to see, you can check out http://wegetsignal.org/tmp/stage6_stuff.tar.bz2
04:58 🔗 Coderjoe the vidrape.php file is the last version before the JS requirement, and the vidrape2.php was the last version with it. (and was the version in use when they shut down)
04:59 🔗 Coderjoe the amusing thing is that I was still downloading valid videos after the front page said "we're done. try this other video hosting site"
04:59 🔗 Coderjoe for a day or so
05:01 🔗 shaqfu Hah
09:15 🔗 frame_at getting no more usernames from mobile.me tracker... shutdown complete?
09:44 🔗 Lord_Nigh says 0 users left
09:44 🔗 Lord_Nigh i still have about 12 gigs of crap to upload
11:18 🔗 frame_at Guess my finale was less dramatic then.
12:17 🔗 balrog frame_at: Looks like MobileMe members can still get their stuff
12:18 🔗 frame_at but our backup is completed? I get no more things to do.
12:21 🔗 balrog Apparently it did.
12:21 🔗 balrog There was JUST enough time before the cutoff at midnight PDT
12:21 🔗 frame_at weird. Didn't expect this to actually happen on the deadline.
12:21 🔗 balrog I just have to upload my ~50 or so GB
12:22 🔗 balrog Well it had already hit 0 before but a bunch were re-done
12:23 🔗 frame_at I'm quite happy about this.
12:25 🔗 balrog I'm glad that Apple is still allowing people to download their MobileMe stuff
12:26 🔗 balrog That will mitigate it for those users caught "by surprise"
12:29 🔗 frame_at I belive many won't notice before it's too late. for some the iDisk might be just a folder.
18:41 🔗 arkhive Wow. The MobileMe backup finished on time. How should I upload my ~200GB (I think) worth of downloads? Also, it will take awhile since my connections upload speed is at 900Kb/s.
18:43 🔗 alard arkhive: 1. Make sure you have the latest version of the code ( git pull ) . 2. Run ./upload-finished.sh arkhive
18:45 🔗 arkhive alard: Heh.I should have looked at the wiki first :P Thanks
18:59 🔗 SketchCow I had great hopes. So I'm proud we got so much of it.
18:59 🔗 SketchCow Greetings from a plane, by the way.
19:00 🔗 SketchCow Sometimes, for $100 you can upgrade to first class.
19:00 🔗 SketchCow So greetings from First Class.
19:00 🔗 SketchCow Still had to pay for wi-fi, though.
19:00 🔗 SketchCow Thanks for the Montreal work, mistym
19:03 🔗 mistym SketchCow: No problem. Was glad to see it was still up!
19:03 🔗 mistym They took down the main page but forgot about that one.
19:04 🔗 mistym SketchCow: Using IRC from a plane still seems incurably futuristic to me
19:06 🔗 SketchCow It's lag filled.
19:06 🔗 SketchCow Stupid plane, in the air
19:07 🔗 mistym OK, time for some Canada day.
19:34 🔗 balrog "Tomorrow at noon Pacific time, Kodak's online Kodak Gallery will go dark."
19:34 🔗 balrog http://arstechnica.com/business/2012/07/kodak-gallery-goes-dark-tomorrow-shutterfly-works-a-massive-data-transfer/
19:34 🔗 balrog Download an MP4 by July 2, 2012 and have them for keeps. Create Videograms at Shutterfly.com after your photos move.
19:34 🔗 balrog Your Video Slideshows will be deleted.
19:35 🔗 balrog SketchCow, anyone?
19:36 🔗 balrog "The good news is that if you do nothing, your photos will be moved to Shutterfly"
19:37 🔗 balrog apparently not videos though
19:56 🔗 SketchCow We're boned.
19:56 🔗 SketchCow There's just too much protection on that one.
20:05 🔗 balrog SketchCow: uhh, really?
20:05 🔗 SketchCow It does happen.
20:06 🔗 balrog ouch
20:46 🔗 godane SketchCow: I almost got all 3d world isos uploaded
20:48 🔗 godane uploading 3d world 143 iso
20:49 🔗 godane 145, 147, 148, 151-157 to go
20:54 🔗 SketchCow Good deal.
20:55 🔗 SketchCow I or underscor will fix it.
20:58 🔗 SketchCow They've been fixed.
21:03 🔗 godane i sure we can make a 3d world cdrom subsection too
21:03 🔗 godane if only to keep it neat
21:28 🔗 SketchCow I am sure that's what's going to happen
21:31 🔗 Lord_Nigh are all users on memac fully accounted for with uploads, or is it just all users claimed but not all uploads done necessarily?
21:31 🔗 Lord_Nigh because i have a few partially downloaded but incomplete users here
21:34 🔗 chronomex I have one that completely OOMed my box
21:34 🔗 alard There are 6400 users left.
21:35 🔗 Lord_Nigh is me.com down yet? last i checked earlier today it was not
21:35 🔗 alard https://www.icloud.com/mobileme/not_found/
21:51 🔗 Lord_Nigh well, i'll upload all i've got so far
21:51 🔗 Lord_Nigh about 25-30gb
22:48 🔗 godane SketchCow: i have a problem
22:48 🔗 godane http://archive.org/checkin/cdrom-3d-world-145
22:48 🔗 godane http://archive.org/details/cdrom-3d-world-145
22:49 🔗 godane i can't add it
22:49 🔗 godane i think it failed to check in
22:49 🔗 godane its in my items-uploads.archive.org account
22:50 🔗 godane :-/
22:54 🔗 godane is anyone here?
22:55 🔗 SketchCow I'm on a plane.
22:55 🔗 godane oh
22:55 🔗 godane how do you fix a failed check-in?
22:57 🔗 Nemo_bis sigh, why are you using FTP?
22:58 🔗 Nemo_bis there are instructions for such cases in the forum IIRC (I don't remember anything ekse, only that FTP upload is horrible)
22:59 🔗 godane cause i don't know how to fix stuff in s3 if my internet drops
22:59 🔗 chronomex you can fix s3 by removing the "x-amz-ignore-preexisting-bucket" header and starting over
22:59 🔗 chronomex or maybe adding it, I forget
23:00 🔗 godane i also don't have any output on how long i'm going to be uploading
23:00 🔗 Nemo_bis if you don't, you're doing something wrong
23:02 🔗 godane this is how i do my dl.tv 107 episode: http://pastebin.com/37jDw8AH
23:02 🔗 godane tell me what is wrong
23:18 🔗 godane uploaded: http://archive.org/details/cdrom-3d-world-145

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