#archiveteam 2012-08-22,Wed

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00:45 πŸ”— shaqfu So, big data purge by Facebook today
00:45 πŸ”— chronomex what're they deleting?
00:45 πŸ”— shaqfu Any account with "cosplay" in the name seems to have been hosed
00:45 πŸ”— chronomex weird.
00:45 πŸ”— chronomex facebook hates fun, as usual
00:47 πŸ”— shaqfu They were pissed that people were using multiple accounts
00:47 πŸ”— shaqfu Guess they're serious about "you are your Facebook"
00:49 πŸ”— shaqfu Cosplayers tend to have big accounts, byte-wise; wonder what the loss was
00:49 πŸ”— closure wonder how they feel about all the high school teachers who have two accounts
00:50 πŸ”— shaqfu Dunno; that's harder to track
01:15 πŸ”— dashcloud if you are on Windows, don't forget that tab completion is available
02:19 πŸ”— BlueMax How goes Cinch?
02:36 πŸ”— underscor S[h]O[r]T was trying to beat me >:(
02:36 πŸ”— underscor luckily I nipped that in the bud
02:47 πŸ”— Coderjoe I'm not surprised by the FB data purge. I saw a number of comments all over the place about FB's proclaimed user count being much higher than reality
02:47 πŸ”— Coderjoe (And I know a few people that had multiple accounts. not sure how they fared)
03:06 πŸ”— shaqfu Coderjoe: The suck part is that every account, was a human being
03:06 πŸ”— shaqfu It's not like a bot purge
03:06 πŸ”— Coderjoe yeah :(
03:07 πŸ”— shaqfu And I doubt FB was oblivious to that
03:07 πŸ”— Coderjoe too much trying to limit people to one online presence per meatbag
03:07 πŸ”— shaqfu THIS COSPLAY BOTNET IS A REAL MENACE
03:35 πŸ”— BlueMax Nintendo Power is to stop being published... :(
03:49 πŸ”— S[h]O[r]T damit wtf
03:49 πŸ”— S[h]O[r]T more items?
03:49 πŸ”— S[h]O[r]T i should ahve kept all my threads running lol
03:51 πŸ”— S[h]O[r]T well not running warrior so would have had to update my stuff
03:51 πŸ”— S[h]O[r]T dam u underscor!
03:52 πŸ”— S[h]O[r]T hmm i ran a git pull and now getting errors :(
03:54 πŸ”— S[h]O[r]T TypeError: __init__() takes exactly 3 arguments (4 given)
03:58 πŸ”— S[h]O[r]T oops missed the line about pip update
03:58 πŸ”— S[h]O[r]T all fixed
04:03 πŸ”— S[h]O[r]T well now im getting tracebacks ERROR:root:Error in periodic callback
04:03 πŸ”— S[h]O[r]T AttributeError: 'AsyncPopen' object has no attribute 'pipe'
04:04 πŸ”— S[h]O[r]T cant uploadit seems, doh
04:12 πŸ”— S[h]O[r]T maybe i was running too many but it worked before. i might have taken a good amount of ids and not uploaded anything alard. sorry :(
06:33 πŸ”— underscor #cinch #winning
06:36 πŸ”— * BlueMax hates underscor
06:36 πŸ”— BlueMax and his big pipe.
06:37 πŸ”— underscor :D
06:37 πŸ”— underscor https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/559140_481985518478508_1351707243_n.jpg
06:37 πŸ”— underscor dammit
06:37 πŸ”— underscor oh, that was for -bs
06:47 πŸ”— chronomex woop woop woop off-topic siren
06:47 πŸ”— chronomex gtfo
07:12 πŸ”— SmileyG Warning, Nintendo Power mag maybe shutting down
07:13 πŸ”— BlueMax they are
09:17 πŸ”— nitro2k01 Since we have the -bs policy to prevent "spam" in here, maybe it's about time we permanently ban the bots that keep joining and parting all the time?
09:18 πŸ”— chronomex ban all you want
09:18 πŸ”— chronomex I've got joins & parts ignored in here
09:18 πŸ”— nitro2k01 Oh right, I'm op
09:19 πŸ”— nitro2k01 Still, thought I'd ask first
09:33 πŸ”— Coderjoe banning bots is pretty much pointless. They only use the same IP once or twice.
09:34 πŸ”— Coderjoe most of the join/part traffic is actual people's clients
09:35 πŸ”— chronomex /ban *!*@*.net
09:35 πŸ”— chronomex mission accomplished
09:57 πŸ”— nitro2k01 Coderjoe: These are bots that I don\t know the purpose of, which have been using the same, fake vhosts forever
09:58 πŸ”— nitro2k01 tidalwave [tidalwave@170-201.82-139.bia.tkbb.net.pl] for example
09:59 πŸ”— nitro2k01 Diagnose: vhost doesn't look up, ctcp version returns bitchs
09:59 πŸ”— nitro2k01 *x
10:13 πŸ”— ersi nitro2k01: bitchx is a client though. Why do you assume that's a bot?
10:25 πŸ”— nitro2k01 ersi: 1) A number of clients join and part repeatedly 2) never say anything 3) never respond to PMs 4) all have fake vhosts (that don't look up to a real IP address) 5) all return exactly the same CTCP version
10:26 πŸ”— nitro2k01 How could this not be bots?
10:26 πŸ”— Schbirid vhosts on irc are nothing one can care about
10:26 πŸ”— ersi I dunno, but there's plenty of lurkers here. Also, LOL at taking any kind of information as valid, like vhosts
10:27 πŸ”— nitro2k01 I take facts into consideration and draw conclusions
10:27 πŸ”— ersi Yeah, but what's the freggin' problem. Are they spamming? Are they doing anything?
10:27 πŸ”— nitro2k01 And, again, they spam #archiveteam and other channels with join and part notices
10:28 πŸ”— * ersi rolls eyes and goes for lunch
10:39 πŸ”— * SmileyG ignores joins and parts.
10:39 πŸ”— SmileyG :)
17:20 πŸ”— chronomex nitro2k01: if you think it is a problem, fix it - you have @ for a reason
17:20 πŸ”— chronomex I like to extend wikipedia's "be bold" principle to irc.
17:40 πŸ”— * unwhan is not a bot, sockpuppet nor human bug
17:41 πŸ”— unwhan however thinks that a ban on unreasonable idling would be ok
17:45 πŸ”— alard Unreasonable idling, haha. :) "ArchiveTeam - stationnement gΓƒΒͺnant", don't lurk, we'll ban you if you don't talk.
17:45 πŸ”— unwhan :))
17:47 πŸ”— alard In other news: we should start wayback.archiveteam.org.
17:47 πŸ”— alard Make mobileme, picplz, tabblo etc. available.
17:50 πŸ”— unwhan wayback.archiveteam.org would be nice.
19:07 πŸ”— Coderjoe uh
19:07 πŸ”— Coderjoe no, not a ban on idling
19:07 πŸ”— Coderjoe I _hate_ bans on idling
19:07 πŸ”— chronomex ^
19:08 πŸ”— chronomex lurk moar
19:08 πŸ”— Coderjoe there was one channel I wanted to participate in that I lasted less than a week in simply because they had the stupid policy of "you're only in the channel when you're actually at your computer"
19:09 πŸ”— Coderjoe (iirc, it was also on efnet. and it was related to funny music)
19:09 πŸ”— Coderjoe i suspect they didn't know how to manage ops properly
20:34 πŸ”— swebb addchans SketchCow #archiveteam
20:37 πŸ”— underscor alard: that would be pretty cool
20:38 πŸ”— underscor although I don't know how well the wayback machine plays with remote warcs out-of-the-box
20:38 πŸ”— underscor (the production code is different than what's been released)
20:38 πŸ”— alard I don't think it's too hard to get it running.
20:39 πŸ”— alard A little modification to the code to get it to recognize warc-in-tar.
20:39 πŸ”— alard But then it's just a range request, right?
20:54 πŸ”— alard underscor: I just browsed a bit through the wayback machine code at https://github.com/internetarchive/wayback/ . All the remote warc stuff seems to be there (and I'll just assume that it isn't broken).
20:54 πŸ”— underscor ah, okay
20:56 πŸ”— alard So that looks promising. We should probably turn to SketchCow for hosting.
20:56 πŸ”— Coderjoe of course, warc-in-tar via range request would only really work with a non-compressed tar fil
20:57 πŸ”— underscor He probably wouldn't want that on an archive.org server, otherwise I'd offer one of my boxen
20:57 πŸ”— alard Yes. But then you shouldn't compress tars-with-warcs (or, perhaps even worse, put the warcs in a zip file).
20:58 πŸ”— underscor (cc: SketchCow)
20:58 πŸ”— alard Most of the stuff isn't compressed, by the way.
20:58 πŸ”— chronomex alard: warc-in-zip is easier to extract from the middle of, since it's not a solid archive
21:00 πŸ”— alard Ah, probably. But uncompressed is even better.
21:01 πŸ”— chronomex yes
21:04 πŸ”— alard Even more so since the wayback thing would be interested in a single warc record from a larger warc file.
21:38 πŸ”— Dark_Star anyone have good ties to oracle? especially to web/ftp admins?
21:44 πŸ”— SketchCow OKAY SO THAT WAS A LOT OF ME WHATEVER OKAYFLKSDHFJKLDHFDf
21:50 πŸ”— godane hey SketchCow
21:51 πŸ”— godane i'm uploading the computer programme
21:57 πŸ”— SketchCow I see that.
21:57 πŸ”— SketchCow I'll be making your collections soon
22:00 πŸ”— godane gamesmaster is very big
22:37 πŸ”— DFJustin wasn't the plan to put all this stuff in the real wayback machine
22:37 πŸ”— BlueMax SketchCow, what's it like having a slave :P
22:37 πŸ”— chronomex correct
22:52 πŸ”— SketchCow 2
22:52 πŸ”— SketchCow THIS IS MY SLAVE THERE ARE MANY OTHERS LIKE HIM BUT THIS ONE IS MINE

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