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00:12
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DrainLbry |
3 months free of a small VM on Azure, I'm sure you guys can come up with something useful to do. http://www.windowsazure.com/en-us/pricing/free-trial/ |
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00:13
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DrainLbry |
and I've also got 350 hours per month through MSDN, so you know, if anyone's got that at work i'm sure you could also come up with something useful (besides you know, using it for your actual job) |
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00:22
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DrainLbry |
what's everyone using as general process/tool/file format on Windows for archiving CD-ROMs? |
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00:22
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DrainLbry |
balrog_, I swear, I may actually start getting to your discs! :) |
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00:23
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DrainLbry |
Also any opinions on Storage Spaces in Windows 8 yet? Long-term worthy storage I believe it is not, given it's propietary nature, but I've found it quite useful for smashing together a bunch of mismatched hard drive sizes I have lying around to provide a temporary dumping ground for data until it's moved off somewhere more reliable |
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00:27
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balrog_ |
isobuster is reasonable good I think |
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00:28
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BlueMax |
is ImgBurn good for that sort of thing? |
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00:35
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DrainLbry |
Yeah I was figuring just ImgBurn into an ISO on clearly not-protected discs |
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00:35
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DrainLbry |
Unless anyone objects to that as blasphemy |
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00:36
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balrog_ |
I usually use dd on linux in cases like that |
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00:36
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balrog_ |
I suggest asking Lord_Nigh when he gets back tomorrow |
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01:01
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DFJustin |
imgburn to iso or bin/cue (depending on the disc format) works well unless you're dealing with a scratched disc or you're super anal about audio offsets |
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01:01
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balrog_ |
for audio use EAC or XLD |
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01:04
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DrainLbry |
yeah i'd go with EAC on audio, used to do that in the past when i was more into ripping my own audio discs |
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01:05
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DrainLbry |
bin/cue works at a lower level and better for mixed-mode/hybrid discs, correct? |
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01:06
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DFJustin |
iso can't be used for anything except single-track mode1 stuff, imgburn will automatically pick bin/cue for you in that case and shows a message if you try to outsmart it |
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01:06
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DrainLbry |
Excellent, thanks |
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01:07
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DFJustin |
if you have crappy scratched up or decaying discs then you want dd-rescue which intelligently retries failing sectors without bombing the whole job out |
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01:08
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DFJustin |
I guess we should have a wiki page on this |
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01:08
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DrainLbry |
yeah i was going to say i looked on the wiki |
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01:08
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DrainLbry |
and... we're missing even this basic stuff |
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01:08
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DrainLbry |
hell, i know this stuff fairly well and couldn't figure out the best approach |
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01:09
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DrainLbry |
Average joe and jane with minor interest in saving their old stuff needs better pointers |
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01:09
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DrainLbry |
(i know, STFU and write the article then...) |
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01:25
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amerrykan |
i'm archiving ~200 commercial CDROMs at this moment so this is of interest to me :) |
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01:25
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amerrykan |
i'll look into dd-rescue, as that seems to answer my questions from earlier |
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01:27
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godane |
i remember a post on underground gamer talking about why they used or prefer bin/cue vs iso |
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01:27
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godane |
the reason for bin/cue was so you had all the track info |
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01:28
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godane |
cause all of games and mulitable tracks |
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13:31
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DoubleJ |
Hey, I know someone here has been working on scripts for vBulletin boards, do we have anything similar for phpBB? |
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13:32
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DoubleJ |
An online acquiantance is worried that http://www.tuckerclub.org/bbs3/ is going to go away soon so I'd like to snag a copy if possible, but I know that web fora are pretty nasty to crawl because of all the duplication that happens. |
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13:40
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Aragan |
Hrm ... that's the third thread on the City of Heroes forums asking if anyone can archive the forums, I better make that notice. |
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14:39
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Aragan |
Yo guys, anyone around who's been doing board archiving for the Archive Team ... when you guys archive forums, you're only saving pages displayed by the forum software, right? Not the forum software itself? I don't know what all wget or other tools captures in a case like that. |
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14:39
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* |
Aragan is writing an informative post for the City of Heroes' forums so people know what's going on |
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18:00
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chronomex |
iirc, enough to reconstruct the posts database |
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19:07
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DoubleJ |
OK, found instructions on the wiki on how to download it (with all thr problems a few months ago I didn't even thin kto look at first). Now that I have it, how do I get it onto IA? |
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19:08
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balrog_ |
Aragan: where on the forum? |
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22:01
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Aragan |
chronomex: Ah, so it would be possible to rebuild the forum with it? |
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22:01
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chronomex |
that's the intent |
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22:01
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Aragan |
balrog_: On the General--d'oh. |
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22:02
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Aragan |
chronomex: Alrighty. *revises post* |
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22:02
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Aragan |
balrog_: The thread's going to be posted on the All Access - City Life subforum. |
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22:07
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Aragan |
chronomex: By archiving enough to reconstruct the forums, how thorough is the process? alard had mentioned that the archiving efforts will be focusing on blocks of thread IDs. |
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22:09
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Aragan |
So does that mean you're grabbing raw data from the threads that could be transplanted into another VBulletin forum for a completely functional archive? Does this extend to member accounts, or will they show up as something like guests? |
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22:19
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chronomex |
I honestly don't know how vbulletin works |
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22:20
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chronomex |
we endeavour to get at least one copy of every unique bit of data |
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22:23
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Aragan |
Ah, alrighty. |
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22:27
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Aragan |
Oh! The other question ... Does the Archive Team update archive projects? In case the forums remain all the way up to November 30, would you guys be able to archive the new content? |
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22:27
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Aragan |
(For example, that Unity Rally is going on right now and a bunch of threads have gone up over the huge turnout) |
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22:34
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* |
chronomex shrugs |
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22:34
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chronomex |
that's a question I'm not qualified to answer |
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22:35
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Aragan |
Alrighty. |
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22:38
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DFJustin |
we're grabbing the html (& images and whatnot) using wget, so while you could theoretically rebuild the forum since all the info is there in practice it would probably be a huge pain in the ass |
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22:38
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DFJustin |
if you want to transplant you're probably better off petitioning arena for the forum database |
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22:39
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DFJustin |
there should be no reason we can't re-run the process later for updated threads but I'm not involved in actually making that happen |
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22:39
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* |
Aragan nodnods |
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22:40
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Aragan |
DFJustin: Okay, so you guys are basically going archiving pages as displayed in URLs by the forum's software, so the archive will be more like browsing a website ... *revises post* |
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22:41
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chronomex |
what is this post you're revising? |
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22:42
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Aragan |
chronomex: I'm making a thread on the City of Heroes letting people know about the Archive Team's project. |
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22:42
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chronomex |
have a link? |
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22:42
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Aragan |
I haven't posted it yet, but I'll link you when I do. |
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22:42
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Aragan |
A number of people have made threads in the past week asking if the forums could be saved or archived. I really should have posted this earlier, eheh. |
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22:43
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DFJustin |
Aragan: yeah, I haven't looked at what exactly alard has written in this case but that is generally what we do |
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22:44
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DFJustin |
here's the actual code https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/cityofheroes-grab/ |
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22:45
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* |
Aragan looks |
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22:45
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DFJustin |
seems to just pull showthread.php etc. |
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22:47
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Aragan |
Does the Archive Team upload archived projects like this somewhere, or do you make it available upon request? |
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22:48
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Aragan |
Titan Network would probably host the archived forums if it's the latter. |
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22:49
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DFJustin |
we upload the raw files as big fat archives to archive.org |
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22:49
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Aragan |
Gotcha. |
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22:49
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DFJustin |
the long-term plan is to get the data integrated into the wayback machine and accessible there |
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22:49
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DFJustin |
but so far that hasn't been done for any of our projects |
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22:51
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DFJustin |
we may be able to do a simple page where you punch in a threadid and get the files for that thread but I'm not sure how useful that would be if the whole thing was down |
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22:57
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Aragan |
chronomex: http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?p=4387832 Here you go! |