Time |
Nickname |
Message |
00:05
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SketchCow |
101G . |
00:05
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SketchCow |
root@teamarchive-1:/1/THINGYVERSE# du -sh . |
00:06
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SketchCow |
Thingiverse backup is now up to 101g |
00:06
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SketchCow |
At 24k out of 35k objects |
00:14
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SketchCow |
Going to shove the Tumblr test into the archive |
00:24
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SketchCow |
TUMBLR/tumblr-addictedtocock.tumblr.com-20120810-062721.warc.gz |
00:24
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SketchCow |
SAVED FOREVEER |
00:24
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SketchCow |
EVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR |
00:25
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|
SketchCow |
Long after we're dead, the next species to claw to the top finds it |
00:25
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SketchCow |
thank you, archiveteam |
00:25
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chronomex |
hoorayyyy |
00:30
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SketchCow |
TUMBLR/tumblr-becauseimavampire.tumblr.com-20120813-222701.warc.gz |
00:30
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Nintendud |
hah |
00:32
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underscor |
not as strange as http://thedogknot.tumblr.com/ |
00:33
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|
underscor |
(nsfw) |
00:33
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mistym |
That one blog gives the future everything they need to know about the 2010s. |
00:33
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mistym |
(becauseimavampire that is) |
00:33
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underscor |
hahah |
00:36
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SketchCow |
mistym: I'm going to buy two cameras for the scanner, and not use the MKIIs. |
00:37
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mistym |
SketchCow: What changed your mind? |
00:52
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SketchCow |
Wear and tear on $4000 cameras meant for documentaries. |
00:54
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mistym |
V. good point |
01:03
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dragondon |
ersi: did you really just ask my what is wrong with leaving a program running that is doig nothing but chewing up memory and occasional bandwidth, is inefficient? :) |
01:31
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SketchCow |
TUMBLR/tumblr-8inchthickness.tumblr.com-20120810-065948.warc.gz |
01:31
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SketchCow |
Tumblr.... the elite |
01:37
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|
underscor |
hot |
02:32
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ersi |
dragondon: It's not 1990 man. |
02:52
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dragondon |
ersi: what has that got to do with efficiency? |
02:59
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|
ersi |
dragondon: Nevermind man, nevermind. Geez. |
04:37
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SketchCow |
Fist fight |
04:37
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|
SketchCow |
I want it |
04:38
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|
* |
SketchCow breaks pool cue in half |
04:38
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|
SketchCow |
make it quick |
04:38
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|
ersi |
Na na na na, capt' stabby |
04:38
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|
ersi |
stabby stabby stab |
04:38
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SketchCow |
http://www.theverge.com/gaming/2012/7/26/3181188/debunked-the-strange-ride-of-millionaire-game-developer-bunky-bartlett |
04:38
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ersi |
http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/Mr+Stabby/ |
04:42
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SketchCow |
I didn't know there were 4 Mr. Stabby cartoons, so kudos for that |
04:42
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ersi |
Well, now you know. |
04:43
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|
ersi |
THIS MESSAGE WAS BROUGHT TO YOU BY; THE MORE YOU KNOW! |
04:47
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SketchCow |
http://archive.org/details/archiveteam-tumblr-test |
04:49
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BlueMax |
D, F, L and T are surprisingly bigger than the other letters |
04:49
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|
BlueMax |
I wonder why that is |
05:02
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chronomex |
DeFauLT |
05:38
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|
underscor |
dicks |
05:38
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|
underscor |
fuck |
05:38
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|
underscor |
uh |
05:38
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|
underscor |
lesbians and trannies? |
05:38
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|
underscor |
there we go |
05:39
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|
underscor |
actually, there probably are a lot of reddits that start with those words |
05:39
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|
underscor |
s/reddits/tumblrs/ |
07:12
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amerrykan |
what's the best way to get ahold of a functional 5 1/4" floppy drive these days |
07:12
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|
amerrykan |
testing my eBay luck? |
07:13
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|
ersi |
probably, or poking companies and asking if they got legacy crap laying about in storage |
07:13
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amerrykan |
is that really a thing people do? |
07:14
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|
amerrykan |
just walk in the front door and ask if anyone has floppy drives i can take |
07:15
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|
ersi |
Sure, or ask your friends if they have parents/friends in office jobs - and get them to ask the IT |
07:15
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|
ersi |
It's free cleaning service, ma! |
07:15
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|
ersi |
man* |
07:15
🔗
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amerrykan |
:) |
07:15
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|
amerrykan |
what's the best method for connecting one of these things to a modern PC? |
07:15
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|
ersi |
I've helped clean out atleast two IT storages, we got to take whatever we wanted besides hard drives. Uh.. well, probably USB <> IDE dongle? |
07:15
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amerrykan |
or should i just piece and parts together a machine that still had a floppy header on the mobo? |
07:16
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ersi |
Always good to have a legacy machine around :) |
07:16
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amerrykan |
i'm learning this slowly |
07:17
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|
amerrykan |
thanks for the help! |
07:17
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|
ersi |
you're very welcome |
07:17
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|
amerrykan |
i just successfully rescued my Kings Quest 5 floppies with a USB 3 1/2" drive I got at a thrift store this afternoon |
07:17
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|
amerrykan |
and a whole world just opened up to me |
11:12
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|
godane |
i'm backing up gbtv episodes |
11:12
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|
godane |
or theblaze tv episodes |
13:54
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|
godane |
you going to be getting some wikimedia images in my underground gamer external image dump |
17:23
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|
SketchCow |
We really have to seriously think of the reddits. |
17:23
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|
SketchCow |
You know, after other stuff. |
17:24
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|
ersi |
You know, after the nothing stuff etc |
17:33
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|
SketchCow |
Right. |
17:36
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|
Wopski |
ok |
18:05
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|
Wopski |
!List |
18:07
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godane |
i think we can use -np option of wget for reddit |
18:07
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|
godane |
only cause i think all urls in a topic is a suburl |
19:56
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|
alard |
godane: Or Wget with a Lua script. |
20:25
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SketchCow |
Whoops, sitesled went under. |
20:25
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|
SketchCow |
That just took a significant pile of sites. |
20:26
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SketchCow |
amerrykan: The easiest way is to buy through e-bay or through wholesalers. |
20:26
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|
SketchCow |
Why do you need one - to work with legacy disks and a disk reader? |
21:28
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amerrykan |
SketchCow: turning old PC floppies into images for future use |
21:30
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|
SketchCow |
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=teac+fd-55gfr then |
21:31
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|
amerrykan |
thanks! |
21:32
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|
SketchCow |
No problem. 55gfrs are the really best ones to have. Try to get new old stock and don't be afraid to buy multiples. |
21:33
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SketchCow |
Because you end up buying them, and then workhorsing the little fuckers into dust |
21:33
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amerrykan |
makes sense |
21:33
🔗
|
amerrykan |
recommendations for make/model of 3 1/2" floppy drive? |
21:33
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|
* |
closure is in the process of learning the hard way that 16gb usb flash drives from china tend to be a lot crappier build quality than saner, smaller sizes |
21:34
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|
closure |
usb .. floppies of our decade |
21:34
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|
chronomex |
for serious |
21:36
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amerrykan |
i picked up a boxed "Mad Dog Multimedia Dominator 2x External USB Floppy Drive" at a thrift store for $5 yesterday and it seems to do the job but who knows right |
21:36
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|
chronomex |
MULTIMEDIA DOMINATOR |
21:36
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|
chronomex |
excellent name |
21:37
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|
amerrykan |
the floppy drive powered solely by energy drinks |
21:38
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|
DFJustin |
external USB is less desirable because you can't hook it up to kryoflux/discferret for copy protected / weird format stuff |
21:39
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|
DFJustin |
but for $5 who cares I guess |
21:40
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amerrykan |
it's fine for these early 90s DOS games i'm extracting at the moment |
21:41
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|
SketchCow |
the key is: |
21:41
🔗
|
SketchCow |
1 - make sure your extractor does comparisons to make sure it did it right |
21:41
🔗
|
amerrykan |
i'm redumping each disk twice and then diff'ing, and haven't hit a mismatch yet, so it seems pretty solid |
21:41
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|
SketchCow |
2 - don't throw shit away just because you 'saved' it |
21:41
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Just pack it up and away |
21:41
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amerrykan |
ayup |
21:42
🔗
|
amerrykan |
dd has a 'nocache' option that would make my life easier but i can't figure out the command-line syntax it expects it in |
21:42
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DFJustin |
dos games can have disk copy protection but it's less common than other platforms |
21:44
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amerrykan |
if i'm running 'dd if=/dev/sdb of=Disk.img' where do i supply 'nocache'? |
21:44
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amerrykan |
i've tried adding 'conv=nocache' before 'if=' and after 'Disk.img', it complains that it doesn't understand what i'm asking |
21:44
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|
amerrykan |
google wasn't much help |
21:45
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|
SketchCow |
Why do you need nocache? |
21:46
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amerrykan |
when i try to make a second dump of the disk (to compare with diff), disk cache just immediately makes a copy of the image it just read |
21:47
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|
amerrykan |
i worked around by cycling through the stack of disks twice but if i could turn of the cache, i could automate it with a script |
21:47
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|
SketchCow |
if I RECALL it's o= |
21:47
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amerrykan |
o=nocache? |
21:47
🔗
|
SketchCow |
dd of=ofile oflag=nocache conv=notrunc,fdatasync count=0 |
21:47
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|
SketchCow |
oflag |
21:47
🔗
|
SketchCow |
try that |
21:47
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|
SketchCow |
Sorry, just the oflag, not the rest of that crap |
21:48
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amerrykan |
ok, i'll give it a shot when i can boot back into linux after work |
21:48
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|
amerrykan |
thanks for the insight |
21:52
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|
balrog_ |
amerrykan: Are you using the raw disk device? |
21:52
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|
balrog_ |
Wait I'm thinking Mac :) |
21:52
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|
SketchCow |
Yes, he is, of course he is. |
21:52
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|
balrog_ |
ddrescue has a raw mode switch which bypasses cache |
21:53
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|
balrog_ |
I prefer it over dd in any case because of progress reporting and logging. |
21:53
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amerrykan |
i'll look into it |
21:54
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|
amerrykan |
any recommendations for cranking out reliable ISO images? |
21:54
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|
amerrykan |
from CDROM/DVDROM? |
21:54
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|
amerrykan |
i find mismatches in my images occasionally across multiple redumps |
21:55
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|
amerrykan |
sometimes it can take four to five redumps to produce matching images |
21:55
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|
chronomex |
data isos? really? |
21:55
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|
amerrykan |
? |
21:56
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|
amerrykan |
chronomex: this is the same thing i was talking about here a week or two ago |
21:56
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|
chronomex |
sorry, I haven't been paying attention to this channel lately |
21:57
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|
amerrykan |
i thought you were part of the conversation, i could be mistaken |
21:57
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|
amerrykan |
i had a vacation between then and now :) |
22:21
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|
DFJustin |
do the discs in question have audio tracks |
22:31
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|
SketchCow |
chronomex: BETRAYER |
22:53
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|
chronomex |
:( |
22:53
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|
SketchCow |
./software 617-599-2284 "Renegade" |
22:53
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|
SketchCow |
./town 617-599-2284 Lynn, MA |
22:53
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|
SketchCow |
Whoops |
22:56
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|
dashcloud |
SketchCow: tell me about media mail- when is it worth using over regular boxes? trying to clean up and ship stuff out to people who would actually use it or store it properly |
22:56
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|
chronomex |
media mail is a special price you get when your container is all books or cds or disks or tapes or whatever |
22:57
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|
chronomex |
"published materials" |
22:57
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|
chronomex |
it's nearly always worth it, but larger containers get you a bigger discount |
22:57
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|
SketchCow |
Right. |
22:57
🔗
|
chronomex |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_mail#Service_level_choices |
22:58
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|
SketchCow |
for example, I've sent crates of books to archive.org. A crate holding, say, 50 books. $15. |
22:58
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|
SketchCow |
Got there in three weeks. |
22:58
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|
balrog_ |
how efficient are they at scanning books? |
22:58
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|
balrog_ |
I have piles of tech books |
22:58
🔗
|
SketchCow |
They are slow as molasses, because they have a massive backlog |
22:58
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|
balrog_ |
figured as much |
22:58
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|
SketchCow |
So if you mail it in hoping to browse the pages next month, fail. |
22:59
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|
SketchCow |
But if you want to ensure it will: 1. be scanned 2. be stores |
22:59
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|
SketchCow |
Well, there you go |
22:59
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|
DFJustin |
also they don't make it public unless it's PD |
22:59
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|
SketchCow |
http://statusboard.archive.org/ is very informative for this. |
22:59
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|
balrog_ |
yeah. if it's not PD, I'd at least like to receive it |
22:59
🔗
|
balrog_ |
(to do what I please with it) |
22:59
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|
SketchCow |
http://archive.org/details/enlacocinamonlog00sure |
22:59
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|
chronomex |
I don't think it works that way, balrog_ |
22:59
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|
balrog_ |
not with IA at least |
23:00
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|
balrog_ |
if I scan stuff myself, yeah it does work that way :) |
23:00
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|
chronomex |
correct |
23:00
🔗
|
chronomex |
you can scan and upload yourself |
23:00
🔗
|
chronomex |
then maybe send it in or whatever |
23:00
🔗
|
balrog_ |
yeah |
23:00
🔗
|
chronomex |
say "here are some books I already scanned fyi" |
23:00
🔗
|
SketchCow |
That book, I just linked... it was 10 days from acquisition (into the system) to being electronically available. |
23:00
🔗
|
chronomex |
SketchCow: not bad |
23:01
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|
balrog_ |
yeah that's pretty quick |
23:01
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|
dashcloud |
apparently the latest version of ABBYY (11) now has the option to turn your scans into ebooks |
23:02
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|
SketchCow |
But I'll see ones from China take 9 months. |
23:02
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|
SketchCow |
The reason is, the way they're transported, IA puts them into a shipping container and sends it by boat to Shenzhen |
23:02
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|
SketchCow |
So they get logged here and go off there for scan. |
23:14
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|
dashcloud |
so if I have computer manuals and such, should I send them to IA or you for them to end up on the site? |
23:15
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|
chronomex |
IA directly is best |
23:20
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|
Nintendud |
What sort of materials are being gathered for scanning? |
23:25
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|
dashcloud |
in reference to what? |
23:25
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|
Nintendud |
Oh, I was referring to your statement about computer manuals and such. |
23:36
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|
dashcloud |
ah |
23:37
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|
Nintendud |
I have a bunch of crap in a storage unit I'll be sifting through later this year. Would be good to know if anything I'm considering tossing would be worth sending to be scanned. |
23:37
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|
dashcloud |
I've got some old sound card manuals, motherboard manuals, old computer books, and some old driver/setup CDs |
23:37
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|
Nintendud |
Yeah, I have a bunch of stuff like that. |
23:38
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|
dashcloud |
and the box of Palm Pilot CD's plus Palm Pilot I got cheap somewhere |
23:39
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|
Nintendud |
Hah, I have a palm pilot |
23:40
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|
Nintendud |
Is there already an archive of computer manuals to prevent sending in dupes? |