#archiveteam 2012-11-06,Tue

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00:05 ๐Ÿ”— godane i found a few x-play episodes from july 2009
00:21 ๐Ÿ”— godane i think i found the jackpot of xplay episodes
00:21 ๐Ÿ”— godane just know these may not be the best versions of them
00:21 ๐Ÿ”— godane some are made for psp
00:23 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow WEBSHOTS UP TO FULL SPEED
00:23 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow FIRE THAT SHIT UP
00:24 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow EVER'BODY
00:30 ๐Ÿ”— flaushy great news \o/
02:48 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow alard: So we're done with btinternet?
02:51 ๐Ÿ”— dashcloud so, I'm downloading this: http://thepiratebay.se/torrent/5262999/Kodak_Easyshare_Siterip
02:52 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow http://mamedev.emulab.it/haze/2012/11/06/italy-gets-a-planet-probe-part-1/
03:01 ๐Ÿ”— dashcloud that's awesome
03:08 ๐Ÿ”— nintendud Nice
03:33 ๐Ÿ”— dashcloud hi folks- I'm getting ridiculously low download speeds on the torrent listed above- can anyone give it a shot and see if they get more than 10 KB/s download speed on it?
03:33 ๐Ÿ”— balrog the uploader might have a very limited upload speed
03:34 ๐Ÿ”— balrog just stick it in your client and leave it for several days
04:23 ๐Ÿ”— fpqc archive teaam
04:23 ๐Ÿ”— fpqc I finished fixing up tha scan
04:23 ๐Ÿ”— fpqc *that
04:24 ๐Ÿ”— fpqc have anyplace for me to upload the tiffs
04:27 ๐Ÿ”— fpqc I'm also making the djvu
04:27 ๐Ÿ”— fpqc this old chap: http://archive.org/details/TheAgeOfRooseveltThePoliticsOfUpheaval
04:29 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow Create http://archive.org/details/TheAgeOfRooseveltThePoliticsOfUpheaval-fixd
04:29 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow fixed
04:29 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow upload
04:38 ๐Ÿ”— fpqc compiling the djvu
04:38 ๐Ÿ”— fpqc do I need to log in or anything?
04:40 ๐Ÿ”— DFJustin archive.org can't convert from djvu
04:40 ๐Ÿ”— fpqc I have the tiffs as well
04:41 ๐Ÿ”— fpqc I'm making the djvu for my own use
04:41 ๐Ÿ”— DFJustin put those in a zip and name it whatever_images.zip
04:41 ๐Ÿ”— fpqc they''re b&w tiffs
04:41 ๐Ÿ”— fpqc where
04:41 ๐Ÿ”— fpqc where do you want me to put it =.=
04:41 ๐Ÿ”— DFJustin you'll want to create an archive.org account and then you can upload it to your own item
04:42 ๐Ÿ”— fpqc if I put it on mediafire can you just do it
04:42 ๐Ÿ”— DFJustin it's no more difficult than uploading it to mediafire
04:42 ๐Ÿ”— fpqc false
04:42 ๐Ÿ”— fpqc because I do not have an account
04:42 ๐Ÿ”— underscor it is like a 1 minute process
04:42 ๐Ÿ”— fpqc yeah but I'm lazy enough not to want to do it
04:42 ๐Ÿ”— DFJustin how do people use the internet and not have muscle memory for creating a website account
04:42 ๐Ÿ”— underscor screenname, email, terms and conditions
04:43 ๐Ÿ”— fpqc yeah but then I have to confirm my email address
04:43 ๐Ÿ”— fpqc which is annoying
04:43 ๐Ÿ”— DFJustin but yes if you're a lazy sod there are lots of people here with accounts
04:44 ๐Ÿ”— DFJustin ;)
04:44 ๐Ÿ”— fpqc okay
04:44 ๐Ÿ”— fpqc I edited it for my own purposes =p
04:45 ๐Ÿ”— fpqc so if the issue was pressed I was going to just be like
04:45 ๐Ÿ”— fpqc "fine then i won't upload it" because I'm spiteful
04:50 ๐Ÿ”— DFJustin http://mamedev.emulab.it/haze/2012/11/06/italy-gets-a-planet-probe-part-2/
04:52 ๐Ÿ”— fpqc also
04:52 ๐Ÿ”— fpqc how is this book public domain?
04:52 ๐Ÿ”— fpqc it was published in the 60s, so I would think it wouldn't be
04:52 ๐Ÿ”— fpqc did the schlesinger family just forget to renew it?
04:54 ๐Ÿ”— fpqc http://www.mediafire.com/?babb18xuaa4c6ch
04:54 ๐Ÿ”— fpqc DFJustin
04:54 ๐Ÿ”— DFJustin a lot of stuff wasn't renewed
04:54 ๐Ÿ”— fpqc there's the pages
05:43 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow Wow.
05:43 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow OK.
05:44 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow So did I just see 40+ lines of absolute horseshit in #archiveteam
05:44 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow That consists, oh, 100% of "help me upload a file to Internet Archive"?
05:44 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow Tellme I saw something else.
05:45 ๐Ÿ”— underscor Nope, that's pretty much it.
05:45 ๐Ÿ”— underscor =/
05:45 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow yes, yes I did.
05:45 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow I'll keep him in -bs where he belongs.
05:45 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow NEGATIVE contribution
05:46 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow Actually sucking AWAY productivity
05:46 ๐Ÿ”— underscor sluuuuurp
07:33 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex haha
08:17 ๐Ÿ”— BlueMaxim http://www.ybbot.com/
08:17 ๐Ÿ”— BlueMaxim just stumbled across this
08:17 ๐Ÿ”— BlueMaxim may want to archive it
08:28 ๐Ÿ”— godane i'm downloading it
08:52 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 How do you guys archive PHP based webpages?
09:07 ๐Ÿ”— GLaDOS norbert79: You can only grab the HTML content it provides to you, unless the site owner gives you a copy of the script.
09:07 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 GLaDOS: So the same method I would have chosen
09:10 ๐Ÿ”— GLaDOS Yeah, pretty much.
09:59 ๐Ÿ”— alard SketchCow: Yes, btinternet is done.
10:00 ๐Ÿ”— alard (It's actually not done, but it's dead. Everything is uploaded to fos.)
14:18 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow Right.
14:18 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow Well, we tried.
14:18 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow It's just obscure!
14:29 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 SketchCow: Just out ofm curiosity: Where do you put all the archived files to? And one more: did you had a chance taking a look at the CD-ROMS I uploaded? :)
14:39 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow Which archived files?
14:39 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow I didn't browse your CDs, just classify them into a collection.
14:40 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 SketchCow: The archived stuff you save with archiveteam
14:40 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 SketchCow: Oh, I see... I just wondered, since textfiles.com didn't had my CD-s yet, was just curious
14:41 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow archive.org does.
14:42 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow http://archive.org/details/cdbbsarchive
14:43 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 Oh, nice
14:43 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow alard: May I pack up the bt internet?
14:43 ๐Ÿ”— alard Yes, I think everything is on fos.
14:48 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 SketchCow: So my CD's were uploaded here then, right?
14:52 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow Yes.
14:52 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 SketchCow: Interesting, I seem failing finding them
14:53 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow They're there.
14:53 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 Alright, I will look closer, looks like I fail finding them only... Can I also extend any of these entries?
14:53 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 Would be easier adding them from my side instead of bugging you
14:53 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 Oh, upload button top rioght
14:54 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 ignore my question
15:03 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow I'm packing up the btinternet
15:03 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow But this time I'm being smart - all megawarcs will be 10gb
15:21 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow https://twitter.com/archiveteam/status/265835630091722752
15:22 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow https://twitter.com/archiveteam/status/265836303210397697
15:22 ๐Ÿ”— mistym 82 gigabytes. God that cost BT *so* much. Can see why they had to delete them.
15:23 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 Luckily it has been saved
15:26 ๐Ÿ”— Ymgve I don't know if it was 100% of all the accounts tho, or did they have some easy-to-guess usernames?
15:26 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow We got everything google had linked to.
15:26 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow Which definitely, in my mind, meant we got culturally relevant ones.
15:26 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow I am sure we've missed a bunch, of course.
15:26 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow But these were ones people were using and linking to.
15:31 ๐Ÿ”— alard We *didn't* get everything Google linked to, actually. Our Google-scraping efficiency has gone down, so with more time we would have found more usernames. But you could say that we have the ones that are easy to find.
15:31 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow I'm sorry we didn't work hard enough!
15:32 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow Next time, be more insistent
15:32 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow Insistent gets results!
15:32 ๐Ÿ”— * SketchCow punches a random archive team member
15:33 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow Look at that result!
15:33 ๐Ÿ”— * SketchCow grave later whizzed on
15:33 ๐Ÿ”— alard We need to find a better way to search for usernames without getting blocked. :)
15:34 ๐Ÿ”— nitro2k01 Put on seven condoms
15:34 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 alard: Well, one solution could be asking BT nicely
15:34 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 alard: to list the names for us
15:35 ๐Ÿ”— Ymgve bribe some google employee
15:37 ๐Ÿ”— underscor alard: Even with the /64 hopping?
15:38 ๐Ÿ”— alard That's the problem: it no longer works.
15:38 ๐Ÿ”— alard They fixed it.
15:39 ๐Ÿ”— alard You hop a few times and they say "we've seen automatic traffic from your network" and block your subnet.
15:39 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow Well, sounds like we need to make a warrior process.
15:39 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow ;)
15:40 ๐Ÿ”— underscor Oh, damn, they block at the /56 as well now?
15:40 ๐Ÿ”— underscor Ouch :(
15:41 ๐Ÿ”— alard Perhaps we could make something distributed, so many people can crawl at a slow pace.
15:41 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow Exactly.
15:41 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow I vote we do that.
15:41 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow Warriors doing slow crawls.
15:50 ๐Ÿ”— alard norbert79: We could have tried that, but I doubt it would have worked. (Would you want your provider giving your name to random strangers?)
15:51 ๐Ÿ”— alard Aside: there seem to be some IRC delays. The order of messages I see is much different from the order I see here http://badcheese.com/~steve/atlogs/?chan=archiveteam&day=2012-11-06
15:52 ๐Ÿ”— alard I still haven't received SketchCow's suggestion to use the warrior, for instance.
15:52 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 alard: If the contents would be erased anyhow, and we want to save the material from the "outside", does it make a difference? What is not to be accessed won't be saved...
15:55 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow Weird.
15:55 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow Dude, no idea.
15:56 ๐Ÿ”— alard norbert79: Well, it would surprise me if BT would simply hand over a list of their customer's usernames (because that's what would be needed).
15:58 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 Nowadays nothing would surprise mew :)
15:58 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 -w
15:58 ๐Ÿ”— nitro2k01 Pretend that you're from a big record label and say you want to sue absolutely every customer using their service.
15:59 ๐Ÿ”— nitro2k01 You'll get the names in no time
16:01 ๐Ÿ”— alard One problem I'd have with putting this on the warrior is that it would turn your warrior from something relatively harmless to something that gets you blocked on Google.
16:02 ๐Ÿ”— balrog doesn't google start to captcha if they're suspicious?
16:03 ๐Ÿ”— alard Yes, I think so.
16:04 ๐Ÿ”— alard With scary warnings.
16:04 ๐Ÿ”— balrog what are their rate limits?
16:05 ๐Ÿ”— balrog what if you had each warrior query just one or two pages of results and then send them to a central server?
16:07 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow Right, that's what I am proposing.
16:07 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow Warrior does an occasional search.
16:08 ๐Ÿ”— balrog make sure the occasional search has a random time-delta and isn't periodic since they may sense that too
16:08 ๐Ÿ”— balrog well, is periodic but not regularly รขย€ย” something like wget's random-wait
17:35 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG hmmm google do capta yup
17:36 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG had them blocking the office at work for some reason :(
17:48 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow The BT Internet pages are being uploaded.
17:54 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow I include their shutdown faq, which has the awesome line of it being "only a few remaining customers".
17:54 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow 11,500+
17:59 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex I bet most of those aren't customers any more
18:00 ๐Ÿ”— Ymgve Sure? I thought it was normal practice to delete the pages when someone terminates their contract
18:00 ๐Ÿ”— Ymgve to "punish" them
18:02 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex dunno
19:08 ๐Ÿ”— Lord_Nigh http://web.archive.org/web/20030115200303/http://home.clara.net/cjpinder/download.htm <- i've noticed a lot of "the server hosting that file is down. bummer." messages from archive.org recently...
19:08 ๐Ÿ”— Lord_Nigh trying to get the elite: the new kind source code from cjpinder's site since david braben cease-and-desisted him from hosting it by 2004
19:08 ๐Ÿ”— balrog yeah, that happens at times
19:09 ๐Ÿ”— Lord_Nigh braben and bell have a long running spat between them about who owns the rights to the elite series
19:09 ๐Ÿ”— balrog it's not on IA though
19:09 ๐Ÿ”— balrog (the source)
19:09 ๐Ÿ”— underscor Lord_Nigh: The thumper that that is on is probably down
19:09 ๐Ÿ”— underscor They are very unreliable
19:09 ๐Ÿ”— underscor We're working on moving them off onto the v4 boxes
19:09 ๐Ÿ”— underscor which will make them a lot more accessible
19:10 ๐Ÿ”— Lord_Nigh braben just started a kickstarter to rerelease elite; i havent heard bell's opinion on it yet...
19:10 ๐Ÿ”— underscor (unreliable = goes down a lot, they'
19:10 ๐Ÿ”— underscor re fine for data storage)
19:10 ๐Ÿ”— balrog found it here though http://www.gtoal.com/athome/tailgunner/java/elite/elite-the_new_kind-1.0/
19:11 ๐Ÿ”— balrog supposedly "The dispute has now ended; the various versions are available on Bell's site."
19:11 ๐Ÿ”— Lord_Nigh the problem is after cjpinder got a nastygram from braben about it he discontinued development immediately, leaving elite:tnk a broken buggy mess which doesn't work on anything except xfree86 and even then exiting the game crashes X since it does some nasty fullscreen hackery in an ugly way
19:11 ๐Ÿ”— balrog :(
19:12 ๐Ÿ”— Lord_Nigh the game is certainly fixable but i'm guessing the renderer has to be rewritten, probably from scratch
19:12 ๐Ÿ”— Lord_Nigh well the dispute between braben and bell may be over
19:13 ๐Ÿ”— Lord_Nigh but cjpinder was caught in the crossfire and never came back
19:14 ๐Ÿ”— DFJustin -bs
19:14 ๐Ÿ”— Lord_Nigh bs? how?
19:15 ๐Ÿ”— Lord_Nigh if anything i said is wrong *please* correct me
19:15 ๐Ÿ”— balrog Lord_Nigh: he means go to #archiveteam-bs
19:15 ๐Ÿ”— Lord_Nigh oh
19:15 ๐Ÿ”— balrog since this is OT
19:15 ๐Ÿ”— Lord_Nigh ...yeah. sorry.
19:16 ๐Ÿ”— Lord_Nigh (honestly i dont understand the purpose of the -bs channel, theres hardly enough discussion on both channels to warrant a separate offtopic channel...)
19:16 ๐Ÿ”— underscor it occasionally gets bad
19:16 ๐Ÿ”— underscor but these are all also publicly logged
19:16 ๐Ÿ”— underscor so it's nice to keep this one cleaner
19:17 ๐Ÿ”— underscor for people who are like "oh let me see what these guys are about"
19:17 ๐Ÿ”— underscor cleaner as in, less noisy
19:17 ๐Ÿ”— DFJustin also less hentai
19:18 ๐Ÿ”— underscor http://i.imgur.com/j8E5f.jpg
19:18 ๐Ÿ”— underscor oh, oops
19:21 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 underscor: Still made me laugh
19:21 ๐Ÿ”— underscor :D
19:21 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 And Stoya is hot and cool
19:26 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 In exchange, take a look at this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6p_RrIA_Alc
19:30 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow <@Lord_Nigh> (honestly i dont understand the purpose of the -bs channel, theres hardly enough discussion on both channels to warrant a separate offtopic channel...)
19:30 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow I bet you disconnect and then come back.
19:30 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow Because guess what, there is a LOT of discussion, in both channels. Pages and pages.
19:31 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow Now, maybe we pale in comparison to the #catgirls-in-cellophane chatroom or whatever, but I'd rather we have archive team business in one channel, "HEY EVERRBFYYDY I SUREE DO LIKE MICROVWAVE OVENR FANFICTIONNN" in the other
19:31 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow We're a volunteer organization.
19:32 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow Someone comes in, afraid or heated up over an oncoming dataloss or offering resources, we don't need everyone arguing over whether 60fps ruins The Hobbit trilogy
19:37 ๐Ÿ”— balrog I think the question at first was about an Archive.org issue, which then turned into more general discussion.
19:52 ๐Ÿ”— Lord_Nigh yeah it was
19:52 ๐Ÿ”— Lord_Nigh sorry
19:53 ๐Ÿ”— Lord_Nigh (microwave oven fanfiction? this i gotta see...)
19:54 ๐Ÿ”— Dark_Star damn, I can't believe I actually clicked on the #catgirls-in-cellophane channel link above :)
19:55 ๐Ÿ”— balrog yeah I accidentally clicked it too :P
22:24 ๐Ÿ”— godane i'm uploading www.ybbot.com and forums.ybbot.com
22:35 ๐Ÿ”— godane uploaded: http://archive.org/details/ybbot.com-20121106-mirror
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