[03:27] http://www.glitch.com/closing/ [03:38] ivan`: interesting how their FAQ contains "why not open-source it" but that question is never actually answered in the answer section.. [03:58] joepie91: usually it's because the code is a mess and it would take months to clean up and document how to get it running [03:59] the answer makes it sound like they're doing a lot of manual operations work [04:04] ivan`: honestly, that shouldn't matter [04:04] a messy release is better than no release [04:04] can't see why they can't release the code "as is" [04:04] with no guarantees etc etc [04:05] people that are dedicated will dive right in [04:05] "our system is too complex for you" has always been a piss-poor excuse [04:10] or they sucked some non-free code in years ago and they don't want to be pilloried for it [04:10] that's probably the larger actual risk [04:10] Too big of a "gosh, I hope we didn't infringe anyone's patents" [04:13] actually, usually when something has a server end, that wasn't designed with open-source in mind, is pretty freaking hard to just "here you go, have fun!" [04:16] indeed, sometimes the system depends on a bunch of configuration and scripts that aren't even versioned [04:17] i can confirm this is the case waaaayyyy more often than you might think :P [04:18] hahaha :P [05:35] so [05:35] mortgage rates are crazy low right now [05:35] oops [06:55] Hi. [06:56] Yeah, so Glitch. [07:21] We want the website, obviously. [09:23] http://www.glitch.com/closing/ [09:23] oh nevermind [09:24] the batsign has already gone up [09:48] join irc 66.23.235.245 #go [10:07] WOOPOO. [11:46] anybody got any experience with archiving tweets? Sure, I could simply write my own api client and store the data, but I guess this already exists. [11:48] Like, just archiving them in general? From the stream? [11:56] archiving your own timeline (your posts + the ones from your friends) [11:57] https://github.com/gcolpart/twitter-backup I'm looking at this right now [12:18] some months i saw here a script (on gist.github) using an ipv6 tunnel broker to do some query to google [12:18] anyone bookmarked it? maybe it was related to geocities [12:23] good news on the archiving attack of the show episodes [12:24] i got most of november 2011 and december 2011 [12:26] SketchCow: I saved this earyer in the week: http://archive.org/details/BBC_Schools_Progs_VHSRip [12:27] i know you want 1 video per a item but cause i wanted to save the orignal nfo i uploaded all has 1 item [12:28] also it was removed quickly just like what video game item i uploaded earyer this month [12:28] or last month [12:29] OK. [12:33] i'm uploaded g4 ces 2009 live day 1 [12:34] items name is going to be G4.CES.2009.Live.Day.1.DSR.XviD-SYS [12:35] i'm even uploading the nzb, nfo, sfv, and simple video for you [12:35] *sample video [12:50] https://archive.org/details/RedfishMagazine - downloaded 31 times? I feel like I've done some good \o/ [13:12] looks like i only have 1 magazine that needs admin help now [13:12] :-D [13:13] also i uploaded this 2 days ago: http://archive.org/details/cdrom-linuxformatmagazine-165 [16:58] https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/view/Offsite_Backups [17:05] Nemo_bis: SSL certificate expired last year for that site... Just saying :) [17:09] norbert79: it's self-signed anyway [17:10] Anyone have an interest in doing metadata for a small stack of software unprotection manuals I'm uploading? [17:13] SketchCow: Busy at the moment, maybe a few hours later [20:05] i'm on windows getting theblaze tv stuff [22:03] http://boingboing.net/2012/11/15/sad-news-glitch-is-shutting-d.html [22:45] Pete Namlook's died. His site is at http://www.namlook.de/ . What's the best way to do this? [22:45] I've gone to liveweb.archive.org and given that the main URL but I don't know if it'll spider it [22:45] I can use wget with the warc option myself, but I'm guessing there's a better way? [22:45] that's the best [22:46] OK, I'll do that now, thanks... [22:47] well that was quick. small site. thank you! [22:48] hahah, already? [22:48] "Downloaded: 347 files, 2.3M in 4.1s (573 KB/s)" [22:48] what did you invoke wget as? [22:49] wget -mbc --warc-file=namlook --warc-cdx http://www.namlook.de/ [22:49] looks good to me [22:52] looking at a random HTML file it looks good too. has handwritten comments by him and everything. [22:52] thank you so much! [22:53] * ZoeB breathes a sigh of relief [22:53] :D [22:53] now, you upload it to archive.org [22:54] :) [22:55] just as a regular upload or is there a special wayback machine friendly way? [22:56] just a regular upload should be fine, we can stash it in http://archive.org/details/archiveteam somewhere [22:56] probably in http://archive.org/details/archiveteam-fire [23:05] OK, let me see if I can figure this out again... archive.org's very web 1.0! [23:05] yup! [23:05] it's the best [23:06] "To begin, click on the share button!" :click: "No, the other share button!" [23:06] web 1.0 is coming back into style [23:06] oh, yeah, the share button thing is weird. [23:06] I like the lack of comments, it's just the user friendliness that needs an upgrade :) [23:07] * chronomex nods quietly [23:07] :P comments here are fine! [23:08] I think IA has comments, they're called "reviews" [23:10] oh, yes, I forgot [23:11] so it's just the bad interface part then... kinda like e2 [23:11] there's a more web 2.0 version in testing at https://archive.org/upload/ [23:12] ZoeB: Yeah, the one DFJustin is the "new" uploader [23:12] We just haven't quite pushed it officially live yet. [23:13] oh, you work at the IA? [23:13] perhaps I should extol its finer points for balance :D [23:14] really, it's a great service to humanity. it's only the interface I don't like, the concept and the fact that people actually did it are both wonderful [23:14] iirc that new one had a bug where it didn't strip spaces from filenames, which IA's system hates [23:14] OK, here it is: http://archive.org/details/TheWww.namlook.deWebsite [23:15] cool [23:16] ZoeB: Both SketchCow and I work for IA [23:16] But we're not part of #archiveteam in any official capacity [23:17] well I'm thankful that the site exists, it's an invaluable service. sorry about the nitpicking of the specifics [23:19] OK, it's late and I must sleep. thank you all for helping me preserve this tiny bit of history! :)