#archiveteam 2012-11-15,Thu

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03:27 🔗 ivan` http://www.glitch.com/closing/
03:38 🔗 joepie91 ivan`: interesting how their FAQ contains "why not open-source it" but that question is never actually answered in the answer section..
03:58 🔗 ivan` joepie91: usually it's because the code is a mess and it would take months to clean up and document how to get it running
03:59 🔗 ivan` the answer makes it sound like they're doing a lot of manual operations work
04:04 🔗 joepie91 ivan`: honestly, that shouldn't matter
04:04 🔗 joepie91 a messy release is better than no release
04:04 🔗 joepie91 can't see why they can't release the code "as is"
04:04 🔗 joepie91 with no guarantees etc etc
04:05 🔗 Aranje people that are dedicated will dive right in
04:05 🔗 Aranje "our system is too complex for you" has always been a piss-poor excuse
04:10 🔗 chronomex or they sucked some non-free code in years ago and they don't want to be pilloried for it
04:10 🔗 Aranje that's probably the larger actual risk
04:10 🔗 Aranje Too big of a "gosh, I hope we didn't infringe anyone's patents"
04:13 🔗 NovaKing actually, usually when something has a server end, that wasn't designed with open-source in mind, is pretty freaking hard to just "here you go, have fun!"
04:16 🔗 ivan` indeed, sometimes the system depends on a bunch of configuration and scripts that aren't even versioned
04:17 🔗 NovaKing i can confirm this is the case waaaayyyy more often than you might think :P
04:18 🔗 Aranje hahaha :P
05:35 🔗 lemonkey so
05:35 🔗 lemonkey mortgage rates are crazy low right now
05:35 🔗 lemonkey oops
06:55 🔗 SketchCow Hi.
06:56 🔗 SketchCow Yeah, so Glitch.
07:21 🔗 SketchCow We want the website, obviously.
09:23 🔗 lemonkey http://www.glitch.com/closing/
09:23 🔗 lemonkey oh nevermind
09:24 🔗 lemonkey the batsign has already gone up
09:48 🔗 WOOHOO join irc 66.23.235.245 #go
10:07 🔗 SmileyG WOOPOO.
11:46 🔗 frame_at anybody got any experience with archiving tweets? Sure, I could simply write my own api client and store the data, but I guess this already exists.
11:48 🔗 SketchCow Like, just archiving them in general? From the stream?
11:56 🔗 frame_at archiving your own timeline (your posts + the ones from your friends)
11:57 🔗 frame_at https://github.com/gcolpart/twitter-backup I'm looking at this right now
12:18 🔗 void__ some months i saw here a script (on gist.github) using an ipv6 tunnel broker to do some query to google
12:18 🔗 void__ anyone bookmarked it? maybe it was related to geocities
12:23 🔗 godane good news on the archiving attack of the show episodes
12:24 🔗 godane i got most of november 2011 and december 2011
12:26 🔗 godane SketchCow: I saved this earyer in the week: http://archive.org/details/BBC_Schools_Progs_VHSRip
12:27 🔗 godane i know you want 1 video per a item but cause i wanted to save the orignal nfo i uploaded all has 1 item
12:28 🔗 godane also it was removed quickly just like what video game item i uploaded earyer this month
12:28 🔗 godane or last month
12:29 🔗 SketchCow OK.
12:33 🔗 godane i'm uploaded g4 ces 2009 live day 1
12:34 🔗 godane items name is going to be G4.CES.2009.Live.Day.1.DSR.XviD-SYS
12:35 🔗 godane i'm even uploading the nzb, nfo, sfv, and simple video for you
12:35 🔗 godane *sample video
12:50 🔗 SmileyG https://archive.org/details/RedfishMagazine - downloaded 31 times? I feel like I've done some good \o/
13:12 🔗 godane looks like i only have 1 magazine that needs admin help now
13:12 🔗 godane :-D
13:13 🔗 godane also i uploaded this 2 days ago: http://archive.org/details/cdrom-linuxformatmagazine-165
16:58 🔗 Nemo_bis https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/view/Offsite_Backups
17:05 🔗 norbert79 Nemo_bis: SSL certificate expired last year for that site... Just saying :)
17:09 🔗 Nemo_bis norbert79: it's self-signed anyway
17:10 🔗 SketchCow Anyone have an interest in doing metadata for a small stack of software unprotection manuals I'm uploading?
17:13 🔗 norbert79 SketchCow: Busy at the moment, maybe a few hours later
20:05 🔗 godane i'm on windows getting theblaze tv stuff
22:03 🔗 Coderjoe http://boingboing.net/2012/11/15/sad-news-glitch-is-shutting-d.html
22:45 🔗 ZoeB Pete Namlook's died. His site is at http://www.namlook.de/ . What's the best way to do this?
22:45 🔗 ZoeB I've gone to liveweb.archive.org and given that the main URL but I don't know if it'll spider it
22:45 🔗 ZoeB I can use wget with the warc option myself, but I'm guessing there's a better way?
22:45 🔗 chronomex that's the best
22:46 🔗 ZoeB OK, I'll do that now, thanks...
22:47 🔗 ZoeB well that was quick. small site. thank you!
22:48 🔗 chronomex hahah, already?
22:48 🔗 ZoeB "Downloaded: 347 files, 2.3M in 4.1s (573 KB/s)"
22:48 🔗 chronomex what did you invoke wget as?
22:49 🔗 ZoeB wget -mbc --warc-file=namlook --warc-cdx http://www.namlook.de/
22:49 🔗 chronomex looks good to me
22:52 🔗 ZoeB looking at a random HTML file it looks good too. has handwritten comments by him and everything.
22:52 🔗 ZoeB thank you so much!
22:53 🔗 * ZoeB breathes a sigh of relief
22:53 🔗 chronomex :D
22:53 🔗 chronomex now, you upload it to archive.org
22:54 🔗 chronomex :)
22:55 🔗 ZoeB just as a regular upload or is there a special wayback machine friendly way?
22:56 🔗 chronomex just a regular upload should be fine, we can stash it in http://archive.org/details/archiveteam somewhere
22:56 🔗 chronomex probably in http://archive.org/details/archiveteam-fire
23:05 🔗 ZoeB OK, let me see if I can figure this out again... archive.org's very web 1.0!
23:05 🔗 chronomex yup!
23:05 🔗 chronomex it's the best
23:06 🔗 ZoeB "To begin, click on the share button!" :click: "No, the other share button!"
23:06 🔗 chronomex web 1.0 is coming back into style
23:06 🔗 chronomex oh, yeah, the share button thing is weird.
23:06 🔗 ZoeB I like the lack of comments, it's just the user friendliness that needs an upgrade :)
23:07 🔗 * chronomex nods quietly
23:07 🔗 ZoeB :P comments here are fine!
23:08 🔗 chronomex I think IA has comments, they're called "reviews"
23:10 🔗 ZoeB oh, yes, I forgot
23:11 🔗 ZoeB so it's just the bad interface part then... kinda like e2
23:11 🔗 DFJustin there's a more web 2.0 version in testing at https://archive.org/upload/
23:12 🔗 underscor ZoeB: Yeah, the one DFJustin is the "new" uploader
23:12 🔗 underscor We just haven't quite pushed it officially live yet.
23:13 🔗 ZoeB oh, you work at the IA?
23:13 🔗 ZoeB perhaps I should extol its finer points for balance :D
23:14 🔗 ZoeB really, it's a great service to humanity. it's only the interface I don't like, the concept and the fact that people actually did it are both wonderful
23:14 🔗 DFJustin iirc that new one had a bug where it didn't strip spaces from filenames, which IA's system hates
23:14 🔗 ZoeB OK, here it is: http://archive.org/details/TheWww.namlook.deWebsite
23:15 🔗 chronomex cool
23:16 🔗 underscor ZoeB: Both SketchCow and I work for IA
23:16 🔗 underscor But we're not part of #archiveteam in any official capacity
23:17 🔗 ZoeB well I'm thankful that the site exists, it's an invaluable service. sorry about the nitpicking of the specifics
23:19 🔗 ZoeB OK, it's late and I must sleep. thank you all for helping me preserve this tiny bit of history! :)

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