[00:00] Hello, Josh. Please sent a 10-pack of Blu Ray and DVD to: [00:00] 300 Funston Avenue [00:00] Archivist [00:00] Internet Archive [00:00] Jason Scott [00:00] San Francisco, CA 94118 [00:01] okay- that makes a lot more sense [00:01] remember to ask for a drive to go with it [00:01] yes [00:01] "Engraving on the M-DISC™ requires an M-DISC READY™ Drive, which LG produces and offers in both external and internal optical disc drives, with prices starting as low as $25." [00:01] it can be read by anything, but can only be written by one of their drives [00:01] yup [00:01] that's not a surprising thing [00:01] sounds like mostly just a higher power or different wavelength laser? [00:01] I would hope whatever bites into it uses something other than an ass-laser [00:02] they say it's not erasable by natural processes ... obviously they don't count ablation? [00:02] http://www.cdrlabs.com/forums/hitachi-ready-dvd-drives-support-rock-like-discs-t25543.html [00:02] That's an announcement for the drives being made in 2011. [00:03] * chronomex nods quietly [00:03] http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/15/m-disc-holds-your-data-forever-we-go-hands-on-for-a-few-minut/ [00:03] The disks look and feel nearly identical to any CD-R or DVD-R you've used except that they're transparent, lacking reflection and dye layers, and they have an oddly pungent odor similar to film developer. [00:04] I wonder how polycarbonate holds up over time [00:05] http://goughlui.com/?p=743 [00:06] the FAQ question "The M-DISC™ may be around for centuries, but why would that matter if DVD players were not around that long?" is probably the most informative [00:06] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millenniata [00:06] I'm assuming "rock" is marketing-speak for quartz? [00:07] dashcloud: ... that says nothing at all [00:07] it points to the standard people use to test the lifespan of media in compressed amounts of time [00:08] sure [00:08] which lets you do your own testing pretty close to what they've done [00:08] and since the big claim is it lasts for an extraordinarily long time, that's probably the most important piece of info on the page [00:10] I'm trying to find info on the cold flow of unstressed polycarbonate, and I can't find much more than "excellent creep and cold flow resistance" [00:11] SketchCow: interesting find re: normal burners [00:12] DFJustin: the blog post SketchCow found says "The interesting thing is that the inorganic layer is actually itself composed of metals and metal-oxides." [00:18] http://www.mdisc.com/uploads/M-DISC_1sheet_Rock_Like_vF.pdf [00:19] I'm sure the polycarbonate can handle rather less than 500°C though [00:30] ok boys, gamepro tv episodes 4 5 and 6 coming tonight [00:47] i found a series called dotto tech [00:47] its from the down under [00:53] sorry its Canadian computer guru [01:11] DFJustin: yes, polycarb starts melting at ~200C like many plastics [01:11] however it doesn't melt very well; it's partial to charring [01:12] woop woop woop off-topic siren [01:50] chronomex: i'm almost afraid to know why you know that [01:51] * chronomex grins [02:03] how did the IRC network itself give you privileges DFJustin ? [02:03] netsplit [02:04] generally that happens after a netsplit if I had privileges before [02:04] and lost them due to the split [02:04] ah [02:04] also I'm a l33t h4x0r [02:11] since there's so many bad stories about shutdowns, here's a refreshing change: https://twitter.com/Pinboard/status/306219791025328128 https://twitter.com/Pinboard/status/306220314910662656 [02:11] (not Pinboard shutting down) [06:58] http://youtu.be/gCIeHUcOjs0 [07:13] VonGuard: are you going to release it on underground gamer? [07:14] yes same deal again [07:14] but that;'ll happen tomorrow [07:14] thanks [07:15] cause its late and imove made me want to dig up steve jobs' corpse and burn it [07:54] Episode 4: http://youtu.be/-Ewgqz7ckX8 [07:54] Episode 5: http://youtu.be/gCIeHUcOjs0 [07:54] Episode 6: http://youtu.be/w2eqk6O2g7k [08:08] https://twitter.com/textfiles/status/306219507762999296 [08:14] Today I shoved half a terabyte of cover CDs in [08:24] http://forum.chumby.com/viewtopic.php?id=8457 [08:25] I'm running a wget --warc-file forum.chumby.com-20130225 --mirror --page-requisites -e robots=off http://forum.chumby.com/ [08:25] Yeah, do it. [08:31] I don't mind being banned by Posterous. What do I need to do to help? [08:32] As long as you know that you very probably will be banned, pretty soon - and be banned for a lot of days - Proceed. But if you need/want to access Posterous or any of the blogs, don't. :-) [08:33] OK, thanks :) [08:34] how quickly do they get around to banning? [08:34] every hour at :50 [08:35] so best to start slightly after that to get the most out ofit [08:37] oh, shoot. I already started a few minutes ago. [08:39] so if the ips get unbanned after 8 days, we need ~200 IPs to cycle through [08:42] 8 days? :S [08:42] mjb_: No worries. Some is better than none :) [08:42] 8 days is ~200 hours, that is [08:44] ewook: Yes, they're hard asses [09:02] ersi: I'm getting curious enough to waste two IP's to check how the cutoff is performed.. [09:02] If you need 200 IP's [09:02] has anyone told S[h]O[r]T ? :D [09:03] ersi: I put forward a suggestion using a couple of ip's and rotating between 'em, but that will do no good depending on how the detect and act. [09:03] ewook: Like S[h]O[r]T said, there's some cron job running that'll ban you at around Hour:50 [09:03] based on presented agent? [09:03] Please join #preposterus for the Postereous project [09:03] Uploading with Rsync to rsync://fos.textfiles.com/alardland/warrior/posterous/Smiley/ Awww I have my own DIR? [09:03] cool [09:04] Smiley: It's always been like that. project/$user/ [09:04] ersi: cool :) [09:04] wait [09:04] then a stats site showing total per user isn't that hard! [09:04] nope :). [09:05] what if I make my username ".." [09:05] hahah :p [09:06] they didn't ban me yet... [09:06] me and soult seem to be the only two users showing up on the tracker? [09:06] Please join #preposterus instead [09:06] soult is absolutely pwning it [09:07] It's the *archiveteam* channel for the Postereous project. [09:24] http://joshsharp.com.au/blog/view/shutting-down-blasterfm [09:24] dunno if it's a thing, just saw 'shutting down' in title [12:53] 1.4G Feb 26 13:53 forum.chumby.com-20130226.warc [12:53] still going [14:45] Can someone with the proper admin rights give my wiki account 'DukeNukem' permissions to create pages on the wiki. I need to add opensolaris information and a few other page as well [14:50] omf_: All logged-in users should have page creation privileges. Are you sure you are logged in? [14:51] yes considering how many edits I have made to existing pages [14:51] and I can upload files [14:53] GLaDOS: Could you take a look at what user group he belongs to? [14:54] Autoconfirmed.. [14:54] Should be able to make pages.. [14:56] Can you move him to the users group, maybe that helps? [14:58] Autoconfirmed can make pages (verified by spambots) [14:59] Odd [14:59] omf_: Are you logged in? [15:00] It also could be the spamfilter that blocks your content [15:01] soultcer, yes I am logged in. Just like I said a few minutes ago. [15:01] I have no create page option, so it is not the spam filter blocking me [15:02] What happens when you go to http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Bla&action=edit [15:02] I can edit it [15:02] Therefore, you'll create the page. [15:03] Unless it forbids saving of the page.. [15:03] But that page doesn't exist yet. [15:05] thats how it works... [15:05] you edit a non-existant page, you create it [15:06] normal wikis have a 'create page' or 'new page' options [15:06] not just make up a url and start editing [15:06] you have to go to a blank page [15:06] I would expect it to be right next to the file upload option based on other wiki experiences [15:06] try http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Bla [15:06] I see a create link there (when I am logged in) [15:06] There is currently no text in this page. You can search for this page title in other pages, search the related logs, or edit this page. [15:07] This could be a cookie problem: Maybe you logged in at www.archiveteam.org and so it set your cookie to be only valid for that domain [15:07] And when you go to archiveteam.org without www you are technically not logged in [15:08] Or maybe your cache/proxy cached the page when you were not logged in (that shouldn't happen though) [18:15] Got a wiki page up for closesolaris http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Closedsolaris [18:41] kind of amazed its still up tbh [18:56] Why? The close date is over 20 days away [19:37] I think he means in general. [19:38] You'd think that'd be one of the first things larry would fuck [19:38] I switched to Libreoffice to get away from Larry [20:03] 2.2G forum.chumby.com-20130226.warc [20:03] done [20:08] Any wiki guys around? We should grab http://wiki.blueocty.com/index.php?title=Main_Page (Chumby wiki) [20:08] (cross-posted into #wikiteam) [20:12] So, um. I tried downloading that solaris bugzilla, in XML format; got 1.3 GB of XML. Anyone up for telling me that I did it wrong? [20:15] grawity, we got a room now #closedsolaris I will be happy to answer you question there [20:16] ersi: on it [20:17] chronomex: Thanks a blast [20:17] my pleasure [20:17] it seems quite small [20:21] http://xrtc.net/f/host/wikiblueoctycom-20130226-wikidump.tar [20:22] Hmmm, seems to be files.chumby.com as well for the source of the devices and crap [20:22] Grabbing that now [21:09] I always wondered are any of the current projects higher priority than others? [21:10] Taking into consideration the size of the project and the time left before shutdown [21:11] posterous is priority right now because it's big and full of user created content [21:12] and their firewall sucks [21:12] How would I get wget to not only grab the index of http://dash.chumby.com/? I tried; `wget --warc-file dash.chumby.com-20130226 --mirror --warc-header "operator: ArchiveTeam" --page-requisites -e robots=off http://dash.chumby.com/` [21:15] /join #ispygames [22:07] So, we're about to find out a game. [22:07] The game is "what happens when the uploading machine for the tracker goes down" [22:08] (For just a few minutes) [22:10] happy funtimes [22:10] Could you delay that to a specific point in time? If yes, do it at exactly 50 minutes past the full hour [22:10] ha ha [22:10] Let's do this. [22:10] Please shut down your warriors [22:10] For Posterous [22:10] Especially our hero who's doing it [22:10] So, anyone? Regarding wget and dash.chumby.com? [22:11] jk_: ping? [22:11] ersi --span-hosts and then --domains="dash.chumby.com" ? [22:11] shutting down [22:11] Thanks. [22:11] I'm going to shut the machine down completely now. [22:11] No, wait [22:12] Let it go to the next :50 [22:12] Then shut down [22:12] And I will come back and shut the machine down [22:12] spinning up [22:13] OK, he shuts it down 3pm EST, 6pm PST. [22:13] If it goes away, then comes back that was the shutdown. [22:14] I have to go mail documentaries and get my stress pills [22:14] This is to replace a failed OS disk mirror, so it's pretty important [22:14] S[h]O[r]T: No. The problem is that it's not following anything in the HTML it saves [22:14] It's *only* downloading the index.html, which is kinda worthless [22:24] Shutting down FOS for a short while isn't that much of a problem: the warriors will wait and will resume uploading when it's back up. [22:26] And if it takes longer, it's easy to redirect the uploads to a different location. (Should underscor happen to have a spare rsync server, for instance.) [22:29] as we found, the tracker is good for a few hours [22:29] Heh. :) [22:34] ersi..whats evn really on that site? [22:34] everything seems to link to other sites on sonys website [22:35] S[h]O[r]T: Dunno, but I want a copy of the resources - linked in stylesheets and all that shit [22:35] dash.chumby.com is an alias for dash.dash.sel.sony.com. [22:36] maybe just try the sony url [22:36] ah, hm [22:36] nope, just one page :/ [22:39] did you look at what it grabbed? [22:39] Yeah, just the index.html [22:39] did you look at what that file says? [22:40] Son of a [22:40] Yeah, it looked fine the first bit.. apparently they fuck with the user agent [22:40] do a -U "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US) AppleWebKit/533.20.25 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0.4 Safari/533.20.27" [22:40] yeah haha :) [22:40] thanks man [22:40] np. ive done stupider things [22:40] Now it's going [22:41] Well, that was obvious I guess. I just assumed wget was being a bitch :-P [23:04] esri - Thanks for grabbing chumby. You guys make problems even look easy. lol. [23:04] *solving problems. [23:06] they said they have hosting for the forum and wiki covered so thats good [23:13] Are there any plans to rerun the punchfork users that are still out? I have two left that appear to have gone on strike last Tuesday. [23:24] stickam closes in 2 days..i guess there wasnt much we could do or figure out? [23:24] Posterous upload error? [23:25] interesting post on how rhizome preserves .swf files and keeps everything intact and working when it goes live on their site [23:25] http://rhizome.org/editorial/2013/feb/25/preserving-flash/ [23:51] tuankiet: The rsync server had to be restarted