#archiveteam 2013-03-17,Sun

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00:16 🔗 SketchCow In the name of God and Justice, I am uploading the entire Pole Position: The Animated Series
00:17 🔗 SketchCow My theory is that it will never be taken down, because who does so would have to tacitly admit they created or are proud of Pole Position: The Animated Series
00:17 🔗 SmileyG :D
00:23 🔗 godane it looks like dc entertainment and namco made it
00:24 🔗 godane http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pole_Position_%28TV_series%29#DVD_release
00:24 🔗 ersi Yeah, SketchCow didn't claim that no one made it godane :P
00:24 🔗 godane i know
00:25 🔗 godane just giving the names of who would take it down
00:30 🔗 godane i uploaded starcade the same reason your uploading pole position
00:35 🔗 SketchCow There's an active creator of starcade.
00:35 🔗 SketchCow No problems yet, of course.
01:03 🔗 godane i maybe able to get tech talkback
01:03 🔗 godane it has no podcast release at all
01:03 🔗 godane the host left twit too
01:21 🔗 SketchCow Can I just say I love getting my hands on an open source script that does one thing, and it doesn't do that thing?
01:21 🔗 SketchCow Because I love that.
01:21 🔗 SketchCow I love that to death.
01:24 🔗 philpem :-/
01:24 🔗 SketchCow Hey, it's the crankiest man in the UK!
01:24 🔗 SketchCow How ya doing.
01:24 🔗 philpem Not bad
01:25 🔗 SketchCow But I seriously hate PHP and this thing is in PHP, of course.
01:25 🔗 SketchCow But it's such a simple little thing, it shouldn't be a big deal.
01:26 🔗 SketchCow I suspect it's old enough that it's a mediawiki version too old.
01:26 🔗 Samuel_Mi famous last words
01:26 🔗 SketchCow http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_Bulk_Page_Creator
01:31 🔗 balrog_ ewww PHP
01:31 🔗 balrog_ :(
01:33 🔗 SketchCow Yeah
01:33 🔗 SketchCow Well, find me a script that isn't php that takes a textfile and makes it into a mediawiki page!
01:34 🔗 SketchCow I'll happily take it! Such a simple thing.
01:34 🔗 SketchCow I figured the world would be brimming with this shit.
01:37 🔗 SketchCow What I love is the creator has a link going "I have a much superior upgrade to this [command line, text-file using) script, at this site, which lets you [use a web-based form to upload CSVs)
01:37 🔗 SketchCow Some people.
01:38 🔗 SketchCow Anyway, that's torpedoed metadata work for the day, back to other shit.
01:41 🔗 philpem Think I'll be spending tomorrow doing a mix of Discferret and digital imaging stuff.
01:41 🔗 philpem Well, today actually... 7-8hrs from now :P
01:42 🔗 philpem Would be nice to get in touch with one of the guys responsible for this thing: http://www.philpem.me.uk/code/filmrec/
01:43 🔗 SketchCow This burns my ass way more than it should. Adding new pages to a MediaWiki via software should be, like, "grab this. now run it. done."
01:44 🔗 SketchCow I don't even mean like "someone should make a machine that force feeds me potato chips"
01:44 🔗 philpem You mean like Dokuwiki? Create a text file, page added, job done?
01:44 🔗 SketchCow I mean like "You would think there's a thing for cutting food. Oh, here we go! knife."
01:45 🔗 SketchCow That's a whole other wiki.
01:45 🔗 SketchCow I mean a thing for shoving a textfile into mediawiki.
01:55 🔗 pinwale would this work? : http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:ImportTextFile.php
01:59 🔗 pinwale oh, it's php. nvm.
02:00 🔗 SketchCow that's not an automatic lose.
02:00 🔗 SketchCow However.
02:01 🔗 SketchCow It's a fucking nightmare of inclusions, and way out of date.
02:01 🔗 SketchCow Note impressed with all this, and how they do things over there.
02:01 🔗 SketchCow Children.
02:03 🔗 SketchCow Let's put it this way: If your script to put a simple textfile into MediaWiki requires a local copy of the configuration file to run, you've made an error.
02:03 🔗 SketchCow But that's OK, you're twelve. You also think the ladies dig your lunchbox.
02:06 🔗 pinwale just tossing this out there, I'm just googling around. does Pandoc seem to be a cool document converter: http://johnmacfarlane.net/pandoc/
02:29 🔗 SketchCow Stop helping with it.
02:31 🔗 SketchCow It's just an easy thing, I'll make it work.
02:49 🔗 pinwale np, I was doing it for me as much as for you. :)
04:00 🔗 SketchCow Good news, Pole Position almost uploaded.
06:38 🔗 b_ s
06:38 🔗 b_ Anyonethere?
06:38 🔗 b_ :?
06:39 🔗 chronomex :!
06:39 🔗 chronomex hm.
06:39 🔗 Samuel_Mi a bit impatient, that one was
06:40 🔗 chronomex it's normal for some people
06:48 🔗 GLaDOS gah
07:27 🔗 BlueMax lol I love the new website "archivingyoursh.it"
07:28 🔗 omf_ Being classy is a key requirement of Archive Team. ^.^
07:28 🔗 BlueMax Big beards, fancy costumes and a motor mouth
07:29 🔗 GLaDOS And unlike some other services, I'm going to make sure I keep it!
07:32 🔗 SketchCow http://archive.org/details/pole_position_the_animated_series
07:34 🔗 omf_ I find the key is being able to say 'Fuck you' to people who are clearly wrong. Tact doesn't work all the time
07:35 🔗 omf_ Maybe I am just corrupted by the raging insincerity of US culture
07:35 🔗 BlueMax nah, I'm pretty sure "Fuck you" is the only two words SketchCow is capable of using when talking about Yahoo
07:36 🔗 SketchCow hey fuck you
07:36 🔗 omf_ that is Apple and Microsoft for me. Life time fuck you achievement awards
07:37 🔗 BlueMax I am not Yahoo, SketchCow
07:37 🔗 omf_ you said that dirty Y word again
07:38 🔗 BlueMax oh god I need to go wash it off
07:45 🔗 * GLaDOS dumps BlueMax in acid
07:53 🔗 BlueMax GAAAAAAAAAH that feels better
08:15 🔗 omf_ http://blog.thephoenix.com/ is being pulled down
08:23 🔗 chronomex BlueMax | nah, I'm pretty sure "Fuck you" is the only two words SketchCow is capable of using when talking about Yahoo
08:23 🔗 chronomex and he's entirely justified
08:36 🔗 BlueMax yeah of course :P
10:58 🔗 omf_ Do we have a list of the trackers running?
11:04 🔗 omf_ Wouldn't it make sense to have the front page of the tracker, list all the currently running trackers?
11:31 🔗 alard Doesn't that do so already? http://tracker.archiveteam.org/
11:32 🔗 omf_ I mean the tracker website not the warrior
11:33 🔗 alard Then I don't know which website you mean, I'm afraid.
11:34 🔗 omf_ when I load http://tracker.archiveteam.org/ I would like if it listed all active projects
11:35 🔗 omf_ instead of having to know to check project pages off of the current projects wiki page
11:35 🔗 SmileyG yeah I just get the "install warrior" bit.
11:35 🔗 alard It's supposed to get the list of trackers.
11:35 🔗 alard I see "Current projects : Storylane Posterous URLTeam" at the bottom.
11:36 🔗 omf_ are you logged in on that machine
11:37 🔗 omf_ I see the page has some JS that should do it
11:37 🔗 godane so i got good news on this week in fun podcast
11:37 🔗 alard Well, it probably depends on your browser: the list of projects is loaded from warriorhq.archiveteam.org, so there's probably a cross-domain-rule that applies.
11:37 🔗 SmileyG noscript didn't tell me it's blocking anything.
11:37 🔗 godane i got up to episode 3 of video of it
11:37 🔗 alard Firefox doesn't show me the projects, Chrome does.
11:38 🔗 SmileyG alard: ah there we go then.
11:40 🔗 omf_ It has been that way for as long as I have used it ~10 months
11:43 🔗 omf_ yay! it works
11:44 🔗 omf_ I assume that was you alard
11:44 🔗 alard Yes, I switched it to JSON-P. (Doesn't look as nice as the Chrome version yet. The alignment of Posterous is wrong.)
18:23 🔗 omf_ Did anyone snag this when it was available? http://badcheese.com/2012/09/05/any_interest_in_a_years_worth_of_tweets.html
18:23 🔗 omf_ I contacted the guy a while back and he said he wouldn't give it out because of twitters new TOS
18:24 🔗 omf_ Also that 4chandata has not gotten back to me
18:25 🔗 soultcer omf_: For the twitter data, contact swebb, he might know a guy ;-)
18:27 🔗 ersi And badcheese.com is his domain
18:27 🔗 soultcer What a coincidence
18:28 🔗 ersi and that's a post he wrote :P
18:41 🔗 omf_ swebb, You around?
18:41 🔗 omf_ I wanted to get it so I can use it and upload to IA
19:24 🔗 akkuhn Just noticed the photo sharing/hosting baked into this app. http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Camera%2B App/Site at no risk, just documenting for future. Metric fuck-ton of photos hosted, came as a surprise to me. You can see the user-profile linked photos with a Google query of inurl:campl.us "photo by" - the non-profile photo examples are just pure randomness in URLs it seems
19:26 🔗 akkuhn Kind of interesting since it's a mobile-specific web property, accessible via non-mobile Web but not really designed for it. Prescence of it has kind of flown below the radar as a result
20:02 🔗 SketchCow Ha ha, Punchfork CEO told me not to upload Punchfork to archive.org because he's archiving it.
20:04 🔗 balrog_ SketchCow: where's he archiving it?
20:06 🔗 SketchCow https://twitter.com/textfiles/status/313071870247317504
20:06 🔗 C-Keen all this copying wears down the bits
20:12 🔗 ersi SketchCow: bahaha
20:12 🔗 alard (Our warcs also include a copy of the recipe pages that the Punchfork pages link to.)
20:20 🔗 SmileyG "call it an insurance policy".
20:23 🔗 SketchCow Ok, serious question.
20:23 🔗 SketchCow Who has 2tb of disk space I can transfer a copy of punchfork to.
20:23 🔗 SketchCow let me get the exact number.
20:24 🔗 * underscor does, on a fat pipe.
20:24 🔗 underscor Is this a forever copy?
20:25 🔗 SketchCow Yeah, I need a place to scp over a copy that we then set aside.
20:25 🔗 SketchCow Because now I'm wondering what he's going to do when he finds out nah, keeping a copy anyway.
20:27 🔗 underscor Oh, okay, hum
20:28 🔗 SketchCow Don't offer things you don't have, sir.
20:28 🔗 SketchCow Also, we need to get aaronsw.archiveteam.org access to the stuff people have been writing, OK?
20:28 🔗 SketchCow Something pretty. That would be a much better use of time.
20:29 🔗 SketchCow urge to call collection "My Little Punchfork" strong
20:30 🔗 ersi Do it
20:32 🔗 SmileyG hmmm
20:32 🔗 SmileyG wish I could say yes
20:32 🔗 SmileyG possibly in a few weeks at work, but I can't guantee access to that forever.
20:34 🔗 SketchCow https://twitter.com/DerangeDescribe/status/313386659074936832
20:34 🔗 Samuel_Mi good question, I'd say
20:35 🔗 SmileyG nah
20:35 🔗 SmileyG waste of time
20:35 🔗 SmileyG some people will tell you your wrong etc.
20:35 🔗 Samuel_Mi well, yeah, its twitter...
20:35 🔗 SmileyG Keep calm and carry on
20:37 🔗 SketchCow It's a terrible question.
20:37 🔗 SketchCow See, the problem that sometimes, not always, but occasionally rises is that Archvists consider me one of their own, a particularly wild and free and unusual archivist. And I'm not.
20:37 🔗 SketchCow So there's certainly societal and cultural aspects that all archivists share, and I do not share them.
20:38 🔗 S[h]O[r]T how long is the forever copy? aka how long before that punchfork owner doesnt do anything and it goes into archive.org id feel bad/dont want to be responsible if a single drive died and punchfork was lost
20:38 🔗 SketchCow One of them is that every single action you take, every single action, can be justified to a higher power and management, except for "private time", which is yours and when you drink and make out with people and put on a funny hat.
20:40 🔗 SketchCow Like here's her responding:
20:40 🔗 SketchCow https://twitter.com/DerangeDescribe/status/313388479012827136
20:40 🔗 Samuel_Mi but lets try a real world example: say I had stuff up on MobileMe, and I didn't want it saved, can I request for it to be deleted? What about if Apple asked to put the entire archive offline?
20:41 🔗 SketchCow I'm describing a conversation in twitter where I said I won't discuss it, and your response is to go "So yeah, that reminds me, let's discuss it."
20:41 🔗 Samuel_Mi oh sorry
20:42 🔗 SketchCow Here you go, man: http://endofthegame.net/2012/04/20/zen-story-the-tiger-and-the-strawberry/
20:42 🔗 SketchCow My answer is "This fruit is delicious"
20:43 🔗 SketchCow (Remember, when you think of Archive Team, think of the calm, reasoned thoughts of Zen)
20:44 🔗 ersi Fucking pussies. Don't yell it out if you don't want it saved
20:45 🔗 Samuel_Mi that makes sense. thats how I approach everything I post on the internet
20:46 🔗 Samuel_Mi (still trying to wrap my head around the story of the monk and how it pertains to archiving, but I'm working on it)
20:46 🔗 SketchCow You'll get it
20:48 🔗 Samuel_Mi you can't worry about what others might think about your actions or do about them, as thats their reality and you've got yours?
20:48 🔗 ersi This is what you should think about: http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/36310484.jpg
20:48 🔗 ersi That's all.
20:49 🔗 Samuel_Mi hehe
20:50 🔗 mistym SketchCow: Heh, there's a difference between "institutionalized archivists" and "archivists full stop". Not sharing the values of the former doesn't mean you're not one of the latter
20:50 🔗 Samuel_Mi thats also good to keep in mind as you're downloading a spam blog with 20K+ urls on posterous
20:50 🔗 SketchCow No, don't agree.
20:51 🔗 SmileyG i'm just a banana who does stuff.
20:56 🔗 SketchCow I don't agree because Archivists telling anyone who is archivist-like is also an archivist brings along with it all the aspects of archiver culture, some of which is at odds with what's going on here.
20:56 🔗 SketchCow I heard a great term applied to people like me
20:56 🔗 balrog_ Samuel_Mi: I can see usefulness of archiving spam blogs, since someone's going to want to research spam
20:56 🔗 SketchCow "Feral Archvists"
20:57 🔗 DFJustin I like "packrat"
20:58 🔗 Samuel_Mi I read somewhere on the wiki that participants are expected to have OCD -- who wrote that and was that a tongue-in-cheek comment?
20:58 🔗 Samuel_Mi ah yes: http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Who_We_Are
21:02 🔗 Samuel_Mi SketchCow: funny that out of you and Sockington, you'd be the 'feral' one ;)
21:58 🔗 Nemo_bis https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WebCite
22:32 🔗 SketchCow So, people know the webcitation thing is a stunt, right?
22:33 🔗 SketchCow It is so obviously a professor going "fuck you, I do important stuff, watch me get money from donations for this project".
22:33 🔗 SketchCow He doesn't want to work wiht anyone. he won't work with archive.org, or anyone else.
22:33 🔗 SketchCow Or Wikimedia.
22:39 🔗 Nemo_bis SketchCow: ah, interesting piece of information. Now I'll see what can be done to make less people waste their time discussing that proposal.
22:42 🔗 SketchCow Also, sir.
22:42 🔗 SketchCow I'm finally opening a couple of the bags of magazines you mailed me, and magazines were destroyed in transit.
22:42 🔗 SketchCow Not many, I bet they could be re-aquired as needed.
22:44 🔗 Nemo_bis :(
22:44 🔗 SketchCow Still, don't send magazines in bags.
22:44 🔗 SketchCow The rest have to be flattened out
22:45 🔗 Nemo_bis Isn't the problem that they got wet?
22:45 🔗 SketchCow There's all sorts of problems.
22:45 🔗 Nemo_bis Protecting from water would surely prevent most damage?
22:45 🔗 Nemo_bis I wonder where they got lost for all that time.
22:50 🔗 godane SketchCow: looks like g4 forums are closing tommorrow at 3pm ET
22:51 🔗 godane can IA do a sort of like a constain grab of it or something?
23:03 🔗 Nemo_bis Well, I wrote to the Post, maybe I'll get an answer.
23:05 🔗 Cameron_D godane: does someone have a recent crawl of the entire forum?
23:07 🔗 godane i have done most of it
23:08 🔗 godane i just want to make sure i didn't screw up in places
23:35 🔗 GLaDOS http://torrentfreak.com/the-pirate-bays-oldest-torrent-is-revolution-os-130317/
23:35 🔗 GLaDOS "The largest active torrent is an archive of the late Geocities.com, that was shut down by Yahoo in 2010. The 641.32 GB torrent is currently battling for its survival with just one seeder."
23:38 🔗 S[h]O[r]T i will hop on and DL and seed
23:39 🔗 GLaDOS I should get a box just to seed the torrent.
23:39 🔗 GLaDOS Hmm..
23:41 🔗 GLaDOS http://dediseedbox.com/dedicated.html That seems decent.
23:43 🔗 GLaDOS http://ultraseedbox.com/dedi.html USB-2G even better
23:57 🔗 SketchCow FYI, on a completely unrelated note, I am coming into possession of the entire Apple II 5.25" floppy library of software formerly held by the Rhode Island Apple User Group. Are you still in the business of archiving that stuff? I have a machine with a serial connection that can do it, but knowing that a lot of this stuff would probably require nible copies to do, I have no idea whether I'll have the time for it at any point in the relatively near fu
23:57 🔗 SketchCow (Love getting mail like that)

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