| Time |
Nickname |
Message |
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00:47
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SketchCow |
I haven't gotten to it. |
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00:47
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SketchCow |
Been busy |
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00:49
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WiK |
evening gents |
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00:49
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SketchCow |
Evening. |
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00:50
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trs80 |
morning |
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00:50
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chronomex |
ahoy |
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00:50
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WiK |
464479 github repos for those playing the home game |
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00:52
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WiK |
just hit the 5TB mark |
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00:53
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omf_ |
SketchCow, I have been building up a spam list to help the admins save time - http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Category:Deleteme |
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00:53
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SketchCow |
Excellent. Thank you. |
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00:53
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namespace |
github repos? |
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00:59
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WiK |
namespace: yes, im downloading them all |
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01:01
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omf_ |
SketchCow, Do you like the idea of creating a category for historical pages so we can lock them from editing so they do not get defaced? |
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01:02
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SketchCow |
Yes, if it's done orderly. |
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01:21
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omf_ |
We currently have 32 categories - http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Special:Categories |
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01:37
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omf_ |
I found 3 pages that are all the same and only contain 1 line of text. Should I just redirect 2 of them to the third? |
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01:37
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omf_ |
http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=MediaWiki_Guidance_for_unexperienced_users |
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01:39
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chronomex |
omf_: sure, sounds good; what are these pages? |
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01:40
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omf_ |
http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=MediaWiki_formatting_explained |
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01:40
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omf_ |
and http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Media_Wiki_syntax_explained |
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01:41
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omf_ |
I was thinking more of a 'How to use our Wiki' page |
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01:41
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chronomex |
oh, heh, totally go for it |
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01:41
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chronomex |
those are the same page |
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01:41
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omf_ |
not according to the history all 3 were created by different users |
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01:41
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chronomex |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Be_bold this rule applies to archiveteam wiki too |
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01:41
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chronomex |
same page as in they ought to be |
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01:41
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omf_ |
got you |
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01:41
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chronomex |
yea |
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01:43
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omf_ |
I want to put a few lines down about using templates to setup project pages since I didn't do that for a few pages I made which I working on fixing now |
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01:45
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omf_ |
Can we made this page http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Current_Projects embedded on the front page so the currently active projects list stays synced up? |
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01:45
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chronomex |
that's a great idea |
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01:45
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chronomex |
you mean like a transclude? |
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01:46
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chronomex |
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Transclusion |
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01:46
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omf_ |
yes |
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01:46
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omf_ |
Didn't know the term |
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01:46
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chronomex |
does that help? |
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01:47
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omf_ |
I cannot edit the front page |
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01:47
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chronomex |
ok |
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01:48
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chronomex |
neither can I, apparently |
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01:48
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omf_ |
only admins as far as I know |
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01:48
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chronomex |
rite |
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01:51
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chronomex |
SketchCow: why does the cert on https://www.archiveteam.org/ belong to 'smoketest.in' ? |
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01:57
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omf_ |
Okay I started the new page and I am putting in the redirects http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=How_to_use_our_wiki |
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02:06
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SketchCow |
chronomex: I do not know |
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02:06
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trs80 |
chronomex: because they share the same IP, and nobody's set up SNI |
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02:06
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chronomex |
figures |
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02:06
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chronomex |
ok |
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02:06
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trs80 |
(or so I assume) |
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02:08
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chronomex |
right |
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02:15
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SketchCow |
http://i.imgur.com/Clg4x.png |
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02:15
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SketchCow |
Usenet has consolidated to almost nothing |
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02:16
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chronomex |
that's really sad |
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02:18
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omf_ |
Fuck the New York AG who started that limiting usenet crap |
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02:19
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omf_ |
We protecting the children |
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02:21
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BlueMax |
You would think they'd have much more important shit to worry about |
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02:23
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omf_ |
Anything to make your name more popular |
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02:24
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trs80 |
those are servers with full feeds only? or are there no universities with servers these days? |
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02:25
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chronomex |
looks like full feed only |
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02:29
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omf_ |
Many universities in the US started cutting back after all the major ISPs cut their feeds |
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02:29
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omf_ |
less peer points |
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02:30
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chronomex |
sure, I know mine got out around 2008 |
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02:30
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omf_ |
2008 was when the law stepped in |
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02:31
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chronomex |
huh |
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02:44
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ivan` |
anyone grab share.opml.org before it died? http://scripting.com/stories/2008/01/23/shareopmlorgRetired.html |
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03:26
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omf_ |
alard, or GLaDOS around? |
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03:45
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namespace |
Usenet is dead. |
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03:45
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namespace |
Then again, it could use a modernization. |
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03:45
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namespace |
Not NNTP. |
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03:46
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namespace |
NNTP is just Usenet over IP as far as I know. |
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03:49
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namespace |
The idea is good, it just needs a decent reboot. |
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03:57
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BlueMaxim |
COMING THIS SUMMER, THE CLASSIC INFORMATION DISTRIBUTION SERVICE USENET RECIEVES AN U-U-U-U-UPGRADE! |
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03:59
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chronomex |
maybe with some ads too |
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04:03
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omf_ |
we have seen it. Things ranging from forum software, to stackoverflow to 4chan |
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04:03
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omf_ |
forums focus on smaller niches like an individual newsgroup did |
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04:03
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omf_ |
stackoverflow and the like has moderation |
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04:03
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omf_ |
and 4chan provides anonymous everything |
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04:04
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omf_ |
usenet was federated and none of my examples are. That is the major difference I see |
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05:30
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InitHello |
huh. Somehow my warrior is suddenly processing 18 items at once. |
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05:37
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Cameron_D |
refresh the page, that happens if the connection to the warrior breaks |
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06:04
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loca_loca |
hi!! |
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07:40
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SketchCow |
23:49 < namespace> NNTP is just Usenet over IP as far as I know. |
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07:40
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SketchCow |
Wrong |
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07:53
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BlueMaxim |
lol |
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09:13
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omf_ |
Does anyone have experience using image duplication finding software. I was thinking it might be useful for us to have a tool like that on hand |
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10:59
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ats |
SketchCow: where's that Usenet diagram from? (it doesn't include individual.net or aioe.org or eternal-september.org -- is it only servers with binary groups or something?) |
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11:03
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Auguste |
Does anybody know if there's plans to grab the Linux Game Tome? Its shutdown was announced a couple of days ago, but I haven't seen anything on the AT site. |
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11:04
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Auguste |
The site is timing out for me at the moment, but the shutdown message on the Google cache says we've got until 13th April: https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:www.happypenguin.org%2Fnewsitem%3Fid%3D11236 |
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11:04
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GLaDOS |
They've posted a dump on the site, I believe. |
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11:05
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GLaDOS |
So we're going to grab it, yeah. |
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11:05
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Auguste |
The message says they plan to post it, but there's no date. I'm not aware of any dumps available yet, but I can't reach the site proper right now. |
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11:05
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Auguste |
It'd be really nice if they do provide a dump. Makes things easy. |
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11:08
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omf_ |
I am already grabbing happypenguin |
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11:09
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Auguste |
So the dump is definitely online? Awesome. |
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11:09
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omf_ |
nope |
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11:09
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omf_ |
I got a cron job that will start a grab as soon as the site comes back up |
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11:09
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Auguste |
Nice job. Don't wait for them. :) |
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11:09
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omf_ |
I never wait for any dump |
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11:10
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omf_ |
unless the dump is released with a closing statement I assume it will not show up |
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11:11
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Auguste |
What wget options are you going to use to grab it? |
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11:26
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omf_ |
whatever works |
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11:28
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omf_ |
I looked at copies of the site in the way back machine. No crazy ass cross domain anything |
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11:28
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omf_ |
All assets and pages come from one server |
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11:29
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Auguste |
Too easy. Cross domain resources was going to be my next question. |
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11:30
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omf_ |
this design is from the 1990s |
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11:30
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omf_ |
There was no fucking around like there is now. |
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11:30
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chronomex |
you don't remember server-side imagemaps? |
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11:31
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omf_ |
I remember when CDNs were kept hidden from the user to provide a more seamless experience. Now fucking every site exposes every cdn it uses |
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11:31
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omf_ |
wget can still grab those |
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11:31
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chronomex |
yeah with 100,000 requests |
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11:31
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chronomex |
one for every pixel |
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11:32
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omf_ |
I would take that over the fact that most of the ispygame sites cannot be gotten with wget |
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11:32
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omf_ |
I have pages of wgets I tried |
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11:32
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chronomex |
ok |
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11:32
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chronomex |
goodnight btw |
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11:32
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omf_ |
later |
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11:37
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omf_ |
GLaDOS, you around? |
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11:37
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GLaDOS |
I am |
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11:38
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omf_ |
What do you think of taking the current projects part on the main wiki page and just making it a transclusion to the current projects page. That way when the current projects page gets updated it would update just that section on the main page as well |
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11:39
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omf_ |
You have been doing those updates recently |
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11:39
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GLaDOS |
That would require the Current Projects page to be only editable by trusted people. |
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11:39
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omf_ |
So |
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11:40
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GLaDOS |
I suppose it's possible. |
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11:40
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omf_ |
It is just a suggestion to remove having the same data in two places that can get out of sync |
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11:40
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GLaDOS |
I'll look into it. |
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11:41
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GLaDOS |
brb |
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12:26
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namespace |
SketchCow: It's not enough at any rate. |
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12:41
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ersi |
Hmmm, shrug if Feedburner goes down. A lot of links to a lot of posts will be crap |
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15:26
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SketchCow |
What's up. |
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15:27
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balrog_ |
yahoo messages still too slow for my liking |
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15:28
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DFJustin |
I think alard split the big jobs though so all that's left is redundant? |
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15:29
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balrog_ |
maybe |
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15:37
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SketchCow |
Is THAT what I saw happen? |
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15:40
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DFJustin |
ok re-reading scrollback there may be some large single threads left still |
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15:42
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balrog_ |
yeah those are the ones I'm worried about |
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15:47
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SketchCow |
Please, could someone WARC-WGET http://www.naoldcatholic.com ? Multiple leaders just resigned, including their main clergy, and financial problems are coming to light |
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15:49
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omf_ |
I got a grab going now |
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15:50
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omf_ |
that site is really slow though |
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15:50
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ritonlajo |
slow for me too |
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15:51
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SketchCow |
I am sure it is. |
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15:51
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SketchCow |
It's a national church that just imploded! |
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15:57
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ritonlajo |
ah..bad luck |
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16:00
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DFJustin |
geez splitters much https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Old_Catholic_Churches#Other_churches_with_Old_Catholic_origins |
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16:26
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SketchCow |
Standard Website Hosting - archiveteam.org (04/10/2013 - 04/09/2014)$239.40 USD |
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17:01
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omf_ |
SketchCow, the grab for that catholic site just finished. 261 pages |
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17:01
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SketchCow |
Thanks. |
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17:02
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omf_ |
it took 45 minutes their servers are so slow |
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20:00
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ZoeB |
Hi! So a much beloved homepage www.jhaible.de (idiosyncratic synth maker) is now down on account of the guy dying, with partial backups at http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.jhaible.de/ ... I believe I have a full backup, alas, not in warc, just individual files. Is it of use to anyone? |
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20:03
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DFJustin |
sure, make a .zip and upload to an archive.org item |
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20:04
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ZoeB |
Thanks |
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20:04
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ZoeB |
Is .tar OK or is .zip really preferred? |
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20:04
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DFJustin |
either is ok, .tar.gz etc are not supported by the archive browser on the site currently |
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20:05
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ZoeB |
Thanks! |
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20:05
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DFJustin |
put in the community texts collection for now and an admin can move it to archive team's area later |
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20:10
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ZoeB |
Thanks! |
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20:11
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ZoeB |
Uploading... |
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20:35
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ZoeB |
1/3 of the way there... it's a slow connection for uploads... |
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21:16
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ZoeB |
Here you go: https://archive.org/details/Www.jhaible.de Thanks! |
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21:23
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DFJustin |
no, thank you |
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21:24
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soultcer |
DFJustin: Not sure if you want to thank him or if you are declining his offer |
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21:25
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chronomex |
the former |
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21:25
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soultcer |
English is tricky |
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21:26
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chronomex |
that can be correct |
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22:01
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ZoeB |
him? |
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22:01
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ZoeB |
Yeah, English isn't the most logical language, I'm afraid. |
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22:13
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ZoeB |
Right, I'm off. Tally ho! |