#archiveteam 2013-07-22,Mon

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Time Nickname Message
09:47 🔗 JackWS Better start archiving porn sites so us in the UK can download it before Dave blocks the whole internet :P
09:58 🔗 Smiley lol
09:58 🔗 Smiley you'll be able to unblock it pretty easily
09:58 🔗 Smiley it's funny
09:59 🔗 Smiley infact, to -bs to discuss
10:10 🔗 omf_ Has anyone contacted or attempted to download a copy of betaarchive? It is on my long term todo list
12:16 🔗 khronon e
14:08 🔗 ersi tef: You'll be at OHM?!
14:08 🔗 tef yes
14:08 🔗 ersi yay
14:09 🔗 ersi I'll show up at yer talk
14:09 🔗 tef oh god
14:10 🔗 ersi Indeed
14:23 🔗 SketchCow Over 216 terabytes of MAME roms downloaded from archive.org in 14 days.
14:23 🔗 SketchCow So tehre's that.
14:24 🔗 Jonimus 0.o
14:24 🔗 DFJustin I think it counts a "download" even if you browse and get 1 file from inside
14:24 🔗 Smiley :)
14:24 🔗 Jonimus I love how MAME's license is basically, don't even try to make a profit off of this.
14:57 🔗 SketchCow It might.
14:57 🔗 SketchCow But not sure.
14:58 🔗 SketchCow Fun fact - nowhere in the IA infrastructure does it log IPs ever.
14:58 🔗 SketchCow It does show something happened, so we know stuff is happening.
14:58 🔗 SketchCow But it's all like "Who visited today?" "12 guys"
14:59 🔗 Jonimus nice
14:59 🔗 Smiley epic :)
15:00 🔗 Jonimus I'm sure copyright trolls would love that, not ;)
15:00 🔗 BlueMaxim holy hell 200TB of roms
15:00 🔗 BlueMaxim how bloody many did you put up
15:00 🔗 GLaDOS "Where were those 12 guys located?" "Somewhere on Earth. If it helps, the start of their IP was somewhere in between 0-255"
15:03 🔗 BlueMaxim Oh you put up the CHDs too. that makes sense, they're bloody impossible to find outside of ratio-tracking torrent sites
15:18 🔗 DFJustin <SketchCow> Fun fact - nowhere in the IA infrastructure does it log IPs ever. <-- <3
15:19 🔗 DFJustin as evidence for the 1-file-counts-as-a-download idea there's http://archive.org/details/web - I don't think 162,000 people downloaded a whole liveweb warc last week
15:38 🔗 SketchCow That's different.
15:41 🔗 balrog Jonimus: in a way, that part about the MAME license is rather annoying.
15:43 🔗 BlueMaxim howso, balrog?
15:43 🔗 balrog isn't OSI-compliant, annoys some people, makes it gpl-incompatible
15:44 🔗 BlueMaxim I'm dumb so I don't understand how that's bad
15:47 🔗 DFJustin it means we can't just dump code from other GPL emulators into mame/mess
15:47 🔗 DFJustin and they can't use ours without getting permission
15:47 🔗 Jonimus I get that yeah, but I understand why they had to do it.
15:48 🔗 balrog well back in the late '90s and early '00s there was a lot more uncertainty on the legal status of emulation ... and some core contributors wouldn't want to relicense, so there's that
15:50 🔗 BlueMaxim now that I think about it I have a question
15:50 🔗 BlueMaxim say there's a freak accident with all the developers of MAME and they all die at the same time
15:50 🔗 BlueMaxim what happens to the sources / licenses?
15:50 🔗 balrog it stays as-is
15:50 🔗 Jonimus ^
15:50 🔗 balrog the source is archived all over the place
15:51 🔗 balrog and copyright lasts 70 years after death (and reverts to the estate of the author)
15:51 🔗 BlueMaxim will people just be able to work on new versions of it though without breaking licenses?
15:51 🔗 balrog yeah they would
15:52 🔗 DFJustin in practice if the devs are all dead who is going to complain :P
15:52 🔗 balrog but they couldn't change the license without either getting permission from the then-copyright-owner or rewriting that code
15:52 🔗 balrog what really pisses me off is that whole freedo bs
15:52 🔗 DFJustin this is drifting towards -bs
15:52 🔗 balrog yeah, agreed
15:55 🔗 SketchCow It was in BS some time ago
15:55 🔗 SketchCow <3
15:55 🔗 SketchCow I almost have the scribe working!!
15:55 🔗 SketchCow We're going to do a test scan today, before I head down to washingotn.
15:55 🔗 BlueMaxim was it in BS? I must not have been there
15:56 🔗 SketchCow No, I mean BS territory
15:56 🔗 SketchCow BSia
15:56 🔗 SketchCow North BSistan
15:56 🔗 DFJustin mr. scott goes to washington
15:58 🔗 BlueMaxim does it end with him shooting up the place?
15:58 🔗 BlueMaxim wearing a mel gibson mask?
15:58 🔗 DFJustin no he's bringing it down from within
17:48 🔗 Smiley the hole consumes all.
17:48 🔗 BlueMaxim the yahoo consumes all.
19:10 🔗 JackWS_ LoL this is like 2 weeks now BT have slowwed my connection down :(
19:10 🔗 JackWS_ http://www.speedtest.net/result/2853198386.png
19:10 🔗 winr4r 9.09 *up*?
19:10 🔗 winr4r thaaaat's pretty good
19:11 🔗 ivan` many a man would kill here for 9 up
19:12 🔗 ivan` it's a wasteland of ADSL2 lines maxing out at 1.5 here
19:13 🔗 Baljem mmm, VDSL. I *heart* my FTTC line. a 20x speed increase was extremely welcome
19:15 🔗 winr4r yeah i get about 512k up
19:15 🔗 winr4r downstream maxes out at 8mbit out here in nowheresville
19:20 🔗 Baljem ADSL? luxury. when I was on it I got about 1.2Mbps down on a good day; record low was 57Kbps :( but this is -bs territory I guess
20:28 🔗 SketchCow http://archive.org/details/otakuthonfestiva00otak
20:37 🔗 Tephra SketchCow: do you have a copy of mary ann buckles phd dissertation?
20:39 🔗 DFJustin damn no android version of chibi fortune
20:50 🔗 SketchCow Yes
20:50 🔗 winr4r Tephra: that lady in get lamp?
20:51 🔗 Tephra yes
20:52 🔗 Tephra was looking for it but couldn't find it
20:54 🔗 Tephra SketchCow: is it possible to borrow it for a read? :)
21:12 🔗 SketchCow I bought it.
21:12 🔗 SketchCow It's somewhere in my archives. If I find it, sure.
21:12 🔗 SketchCow But it might be a while.
21:12 🔗 SketchCow The fact the scanner is working will help
21:14 🔗 Tephra cool, thanks!
21:40 🔗 godane crap
21:40 🔗 godane nuclearsecrecy.com is gone
22:02 🔗 BlueMax blew itself up.

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