[00:03] Greetings all [00:04] I saw this, thought of you guys, thought someone might be interested in these commercials: http://ftp.kameli.net/pub/pkpvideos/Classic%20Video%20Game%20Console%20Commercials/ [09:46] hi i have a site for a emergency backup: Hives.nl [09:48] one of the first news articels about this can find here(this is a google translation to engles) http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Ftweakers.net%2Fnieuws%2F92306%2Fgerucht-telegraaf-stopt-met-hyves.html [13:43] hey, you guys heard about hyves.nl shutting down? http://hyves-corporate.pr.co/63596-hyves-transformeert-naar-online-gaming-portal [14:10] one of the biggest social media sites in the Netherlands is shutting down. http://hyves.nl/ [14:11] official announcement here: http://hyves-corporate.pr.co/63596-hyves-transformeert-naar-online-gaming-portal [14:11] about 10 million users, nothing too big for the archive team ;p [14:12] Op de servers van Hyves staat meer dan 1 Petabyte aan content van gebruikers. [14:12] quoted from their shutdown page [14:12] 1 PB, thats alot [14:13] and there is 1 month until they remove it all? [14:13] if they really have 10M users( which i doubt), that would mean 100meg/user [14:14] Cameron_D: they think they need 1 month for existing user download requests [14:14] http://hyves.nl/robots.txt [14:14] Disallow: / [14:14] User-agent: * [14:14] lovely [14:14] M1das: ah okay [14:14] No, user downloads are only allowed in the last 2 weeks [14:15] oh yeah, between 15 and 29th of november [14:16] plus side: they have like no active users anymore, servs should have a ton of overcapacity [14:16] lot of the servers have been designated to other sites iznonix [14:16] Or they've got rid of half their servers already :P [14:17] site feels like 10x faster (at least) than 5 years ago [14:17] not that strange iznonix :p [15:55] http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/important-announcement-about-your-my-opera-account [15:55] "We have made decision to shutdown My Opera as of March 1, 2014." [17:28] they're getting out of the email business too [17:28] interesting [17:28] also, hyves is shutting down?!?!?! [17:29] everyone is shutting down [17:29] What is hyves? [17:29] Yep, Hyves is going to be executed december 2nd [17:30] Dutch social network site [17:30] Used to be quite popular before FB took over [17:30] how big is it? [17:30] 9.1 million users in 2010 [17:33] They're going to transform in into a gaming portal [17:33] but probably still in Dutch, so I can't read it [17:36] Anyway, if anyone can read Dutch, here's the official press release: http://hyves-corporate.pr.co/63596-hyves-transformeert-naar-online-gaming-portal [18:06] yugioh TAS uploaded into IA [18:07] why [18:07] cause i hate blip and it kept getting kicked off youtube [18:07] erm, isn't that because it's copyrighted? [18:08] its tranformative if I've ever seen it [18:08] https://archive.org/details/YugiohTAS160 [18:08] parody [18:08] what [18:08] 's transformative [18:08] google it [18:08] it's a parody [18:09] oh [18:09] I thought TAS = the animated series, like star trek [18:09] abridged series [18:09] also my bad [18:10] yeah I wish more people were aware of ia for hosting stuff like that [18:10] DFJustin: what do you mean? [18:10] Does IA defend fair use more than YT? [18:10] i also uploaded all of AO3 [18:10] hell yes they dp [18:10] do [18:11] IA might dark something which is fine but they still keep it [18:11] for one thing they don't have a robotic takedown system like youtube [18:11] so a human has to look at it [18:11] and yeah it doesn't just get shoved in the bit bucket if it is a legit takedown [18:16] also I just wish more things were hosted on IA in general because then I don't have to put up with recompression or other youtube bs [18:16] as a consumer [18:16] Can you just host anything on IA? [18:16] yes [18:17] If it was as popular as YT, wouldn't that be a problem? [18:17] I think it's a problem they'd like to have [18:18] hmm, I wonder what their business model is [18:19] there's an endowment from brewster kahle who is a dotcom multi-millionaire, they charge institutions to digitize their stuff, grants from foundations, and then they have online donations [18:19] im also the who uploaded the superman isos, george reeves, originals, that i found at a PTA sale [18:20] huh [18:20] are those out of copyright? [18:21] dont care theyre 40 years old [18:21] http://archive.org/details/TheAdventuresOfSupermanTv1 [18:21] but copyright lasts for 120 years [18:21] see above [18:21] worst case it gets taken down again, not worth losing sleep over [18:21] actually i checked amazon and they're on dvd so whatever [18:22] At Wikimedia Commons, everyone loses sleep over the tiniest copyright problems. [18:23] there is value in encouraging people to create free content like wikimedia does [18:23] The English Wikipedia is actually one of the most lax on that front [18:23] but e.g. archive.org are big boys and it's not worth worrying about stuff on their behalf [18:24] the German, Japanese, Spanish, and French don't even allow any non-free images, even for fair use [18:24] *Wikipedias [18:25] so no movie posters, no game screenshots, etc., even if it's clearly fair use. The English one obviously allows these exceptions [18:26] I know japan at least has quite different laws in that area so they may have no choice [18:26] the law allows for it. but it goes against the purpose of Wikipedia. The English project, however, decided to allow it even though it goes against the purpose of the site. [18:28] The Halo article on the spanish wikipedia is rather humorous: https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo:_Combat_Evolved [18:28] Microsoft would never allow a screenshot of Halo to be released under a free license, so they use screenshots from a different video game to help explain Halo [18:31] DFJustin: why would IA like to have more videos uploaded? [18:31] because that is their mission, to archive things? [18:42] yes [19:47] Does archiveteam only handle online stuff? :) [19:51] nope [19:51] online grabs are a thing, but other artifacts are also very cool [19:52] What, if anything, has archiveteam archived of offline stuff? [19:59] shareware cd-roms, floppy disks [20:01] sketchcow has a multi-thousand dollar scanning workstation in his house now for computer manuals and miscellany [20:05] I gotta get me one of those. [20:06] http://web.archive.org/web/20131011093559/http://ascii.textfiles.com/archives/3902 [20:09] I need to build one of those. [20:09] http://www.diybookscanner.org/ [20:10] hmm [20:14] Do people actually build those? [20:18] Where's my hug [20:19] odie seems like a man angered [20:42] * phillipsj hugs SketchCow [20:55] keep an eye out for SnowPheonix, he's a good guy. [22:10] can some one look in to http://urlteam.terrywri.st/ i get a 503 error [22:18] http://chfoo-d1.mooo.com:8031/puush/ for Puu.sh doesn't work either [22:40] http://archive.is/o/lfJSs/https://www.dropbox.com/s/wnzqidngrtj8y2l/Bookout_v_Toyota_Barr_REDACTED.pdf got taken down, does anyone have a copy? [22:42] hang on, I have that open in a tab somewhere [22:42] FUCK [22:42] I /had/ that open in a tab somewhere, but as soon as I touched it it refreshed itself and is now 404 [22:43] sorry [22:43] ah, a Twitter acquaintance has a mirror at http://cybergibbons.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Bookout_v_Toyota_Barr_REDACTED.pdf [22:44] asked this before but if possible please archive: https://tag3ulp55xczs3pn.onion.to/ [22:44] https://tag3ulp55xczs3pn.onion if you have tor [22:44] not sure if it's http or https on tor