#archiveteam 2013-12-12,Thu

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00:34 🔗 SketchCow OK, who wants to help with a boring yet intriguing project.
00:34 🔗 SketchCow Basically, I'm about to put up many, many items up into the archive for JSMESS and the Historical Software archive.
00:37 🔗 Atluxity I'm just about to hit the bed, sorry :\
00:38 🔗 SketchCow If you want in, it's #livingroom.
00:39 🔗 Atluxity If this is a more long term thing then I might help, I'll start by lurking
00:39 🔗 SketchCow At least a few weeks, likely a month plus.
00:41 🔗 Atluxity ah, right
00:46 🔗 VonCloud hey SketchCow
00:46 🔗 VonCloud mind if i tap the hivemind in here for some prior art?
00:47 🔗 SketchCow Sure, although I find your use of this channel never seems to be quite the right place.
00:47 🔗 SketchCow But I am all for you shaking trees all over.
00:48 🔗 VonCloud well, i can't think of any other channels where people would know about old softwarre
00:48 🔗 SketchCow Is this the EFF thing?
00:48 🔗 VonCloud it's hard to find software historians
00:48 🔗 SketchCow The podcast thing?
00:48 🔗 SketchCow Or another?
00:48 🔗 VonCloud no, it's Museum stuff
00:48 🔗 SketchCow Ah, well, go ahead.
00:48 🔗 VonCloud but it is invalidating software patents with prior art
00:48 🔗 VonCloud well, i'm looking for an interface where you click on a UI item, and a set of other buttons come up. You then mouse to the other buttons, and let go of the button to select your choice
00:49 🔗 VonCloud like FPS circular gun choice menus on 360 shooters
00:49 🔗 VonCloud needs to be prior to 1997
00:50 🔗 VonCloud also looking for prior to 1997, a system for notifications of communication from various bandwidth levels and sources, that can show the notificaitons in an ordered list that can be reordered
00:50 🔗 DFJustin there's #classiccmp on freenode
00:51 🔗 closure VonCloud: sounds like pie menus, which were iirc a thing pre-1997
00:51 🔗 DFJustin the ui thing sounds pretty analogous to classic mac menus
00:52 🔗 VonCloud oh?
00:52 🔗 VonCloud nice channel!
00:53 🔗 VonCloud yeah i was thinking that DFJustin
00:58 🔗 DFJustin I feel like point and click graphic adventure games would be a good place to check but I can't think of one offhand
01:04 🔗 xmc VonCloud: that sounds like an obvious extension of mac os 5 style
01:04 🔗 xmc VonCloud: that sounds like an obvious extension of mac os 5 style menus
01:04 🔗 xmc 5,6,7, where you had to hold the click
01:15 🔗 Baljem Open Look supported hold-drag-release for its menus too: http://cmd.inp.nsk.su/old/cmd2/manuals/unix/slu/html/ch24.htm#Heading22
01:16 🔗 Baljem that's what, 1988?
01:17 🔗 Baljem trying to remember if RISC OS had the same convention with its middle mouse-button for menus, or if it was click-and-select
01:33 🔗 joepie91 VonCloud: should probably point out that on many Linux-ish things, this has afaik been a possibility for quite some time now (right click, move to item, release)
01:34 🔗 joepie91 not sure since when
02:30 🔗 yipdw VonCloud: Maya's done something like that for a while
02:30 🔗 yipdw although the action menu can be summoned with spacebar, too
02:34 🔗 SketchCow There were some adventure games you held things down on.
02:34 🔗 SketchCow Discworld game?
03:49 🔗 VonCloud hmmm
03:49 🔗 VonCloud god damn sketchcow, your people come through again
03:49 🔗 VonCloud that adventure game thing is great
04:34 🔗 DFJustin unfortunately you can't tell from youtube if it's a click and hold or a multiple click
05:16 🔗 joepie91 what's the status on winamp forum archiving?
05:54 🔗 BlueMax adventure game thing, VonCloud?
06:27 🔗 VonCloud patent invalidation
06:27 🔗 VonCloud turns out, full throttle invalidates a patent!
06:29 🔗 joepie91 hehe
06:40 🔗 DFJustin the bandwidth level one I don't really understand your description
06:45 🔗 DFJustin also how did you zero in on full throttle, out of curiosity
06:46 🔗 DFJustin never did play that one myself although I have a lucasarts magazine spread on it around here somewhere
12:04 🔗 dashcloud VonCloud: now that you mention Full Throttle fits the description, Curse of Monkey Island might also fit- it came out in 1997, and definitely had the click, menu pops up, select something, let go
18:41 🔗 VonCloud http://pnacl-amiga-emulator.appspot.com/
20:03 🔗 arkiver2 any news of new dying sites?
20:15 🔗 ivan` http://www.reddit.com/r/shutdown
20:19 🔗 BiggieJon nice list
20:37 🔗 BiggieJon hmm, hard to parse some of those sites
20:38 🔗 BiggieJon looking at do.com - trying to figure out if they actually hosted content
20:39 🔗 arkiver2 thank you ivan!!
20:39 🔗 BiggieJon if there is content, it seems to be all private
20:39 🔗 arkiver2 ivan`*
20:40 🔗 arkiver2 i will try do download as many as I can from that... :)
20:40 🔗 arkiver2 today already did like 40 dutch websites from new bankrupties...
20:40 🔗 BiggieJon nice - http://www.reddit.com/r/shutdown/comments/1pg9ov/metaish_you_can_now_manually_save_pages_in/
20:42 🔗 arkiver2 hmm
20:42 🔗 arkiver2 shall we create a list on the archiveteam wiki were we keep track of those websites?
20:43 🔗 BiggieJon we have the projects page - http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Projects
20:43 🔗 arkiver2 yeah
20:43 🔗 arkiver2 but it is almost never updated
20:43 🔗 arkiver2 well
20:44 🔗 arkiver2 I'll start working on that list tomorrow
20:44 🔗 BiggieJon issues with a volumteer based group
20:44 🔗 arkiver2 I'll keep track of the webistes from that reddit shutdown page
20:44 🔗 arkiver2 and from other websites
20:45 🔗 arkiver2 and then people can write their names behind it and the status of their download if they are downloading the website
20:45 🔗 arkiver2 what do you think of that?
20:47 🔗 arkiver2 gotta go now
20:47 🔗 arkiver2 :)
20:47 🔗 arkiver2 will do those things tomorrow
20:47 🔗 arkiver2 and hope it'll all work out well
20:47 🔗 arkiver2 :D

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