#archiveteam 2014-01-20,Mon

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01:31 πŸ”— arkhive WHAT FORSOOTH, PRITHEE TELL ME THE SECRET WORD
01:34 πŸ”— Baljem yahoosucks
01:35 πŸ”— arkhive lol
06:02 πŸ”— xmc there we go, torrent uploaded
06:02 πŸ”— xmc now to let my bt hash the thing
06:02 πŸ”— xmc *hashcheck
06:09 πŸ”— godane DFJustin: i did mux for rev3games 25 hours of gaming for charity
06:34 πŸ”— Nemo_bis xmc: what's the item?
06:34 πŸ”— xmc http://archive.org/details/2012.12.ftp.oracle.com
06:34 πŸ”— xmc https://catalogd.archive.org/log/283115501 deriver is spinning while my bittorrent client checks the hash on the file
07:15 πŸ”— xmc jesus
07:15 πŸ”— xmc computers are hard
07:23 πŸ”— mistym__ Computers are maybe the hardest.
08:16 πŸ”— xmc finally, I figure out how to use bittorrent
08:17 πŸ”— xmc for someone ostensibly technically skilled, it takes me a lot of effort to get things to operate
08:22 πŸ”— midas xmc: what did you try to do with bittorrent?
08:49 πŸ”— joepie91 xmc: bittorrent isn't... hard?
08:53 πŸ”— Nemo_bis 1.42 MB/s, not bad
09:02 πŸ”— xmc btdownloadcurses only works with http trackers, which aren't very common in the public sphere
09:03 πŸ”— xmc I had to find one in ukraine
09:03 πŸ”— xmc or whatever
09:04 πŸ”— xmc yeah, comcast gives me 12 megabits outbound
09:04 πŸ”— joepie91 xmc: what kind of setup are you running that makes a regular torrent client not an option?
09:05 πŸ”— xmc I usually use deluge, but that's on a different machine
09:05 πŸ”— xmc mostly I wanted to avoid moving the file around my net to run it in a particular torrent client
09:07 πŸ”— xmc anyway
09:07 πŸ”— xmc zzzz
09:09 πŸ”— Nemo_bis xmc: I added http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Internet_Archive#Uploading_to_archive.org , please add anything you got stuck with there
09:10 πŸ”— xmc publicbt and openbittorrent http trackers weren't responding for me
09:11 πŸ”— Nemo_bis it's not really important nowadays, DHT should suffice
09:11 πŸ”— xmc btdownloadcurses does *only* http trackers
09:12 πŸ”— xmc and it's the reference torrent client in many distros
09:12 πŸ”— joepie91 Nemo_bis: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/internetarchive
09:12 πŸ”— joepie91 xmc: I've never heard of it..
09:13 πŸ”— xmc 'apt-get install bittorrent' brings it in
09:13 πŸ”— Nemo_bis yep, never heard of it before too
09:13 πŸ”— xmc I give 0 shits whether you've heard of it
09:13 πŸ”— Nemo_bis just saying :)
09:13 πŸ”— xmc because it's time for me to sleep a while ago
09:13 πŸ”— Nemo_bis sure
09:14 πŸ”— joepie91 xmc: I feel like you might find use for rtorrent and such
09:14 πŸ”— xmc rtorrent makes me angry
09:14 πŸ”— xmc also I tried it and it didn't work
09:14 πŸ”— joepie91 or maybe aria if you just want to download
09:14 πŸ”— joepie91 afaik aria2 does torrents properly
09:14 πŸ”— xmc max_file_size was too small, but rtorrent wouldn't let me set it to something reasonable
09:14 πŸ”— xmc yes see
09:14 πŸ”— xmc but I am not downloading
09:14 πŸ”— xmc are you listen
09:14 πŸ”— joepie91 there's also transmission-daemon
09:14 πŸ”— joepie91 xmc: gee, cool down, I'm trying to help
09:14 πŸ”— xmc I do not want to run a daemon
09:15 πŸ”— Nemo_bis joepie91: added to the page but you can edit directly too ;)
09:15 πŸ”— xmc I just want to seed this torrent for a few days
09:15 πŸ”— joepie91 it's not even clear to me what your operating parameters are
09:15 πŸ”— xmc so the deriver can get it from me
09:15 πŸ”— midas xmc: you did start the torrent right?
09:15 πŸ”— xmc I don't need your help now, it's running fine
09:15 πŸ”— xmc RUNNING.
09:15 πŸ”— xmc FINE.
09:15 πŸ”— midas k
09:15 πŸ”— Nemo_bis we're just abusing you to improve our docs :)
09:15 πŸ”— xmc die in a fire
09:16 πŸ”— midas most likely will
09:16 πŸ”— xmc Nemo_bis: you should remove the params from that page
09:16 πŸ”— xmc -a http://tracker.publicbt.com:80/announce -a http://tracker.openbittorrent.com/announce
09:16 πŸ”— joepie91 finally, found it: http://www.pps.univ-paris-diderot.fr/~jch/software/hekate/
09:16 πŸ”— xmc because they do not work
09:17 πŸ”— joepie91 "Hekate is a BitTorrent seeder (informally, a ΓƒΒ’Γ‚Β€Γ‚Β˜ΓƒΒ’Γ‚Β€Γ‚Β˜BitTorrent serverҀ™Ò€™, or software for your ΓƒΒ’Γ‚Β€Γ‚Β˜ΓƒΒ’Γ‚Β€Γ‚Β˜seedboxҀ™Ò€™) designed to handle millions of simultaneous torrents and tens of thousands of simultaneously connected peers."
09:17 πŸ”— joepie91 afaik it's pretty much set and forget
09:17 πŸ”— xmc that's nice
09:17 πŸ”— joepie91 and speaks DHT and everything
09:17 πŸ”— xmc doesn't look very suited for one-off things
09:18 πŸ”— joepie91 xmc: it should be
09:18 πŸ”— xmc "Hekate will not work if it is behind NAT"
09:18 πŸ”— xmc I am
09:18 πŸ”— joepie91 unless I'm confusing it with something else, config would take like 5 minutes
09:18 πŸ”— joepie91 ah
09:18 πŸ”— joepie91 huh.,
09:18 πŸ”— joepie91 huh. *
09:18 πŸ”— joepie91 odd, why wouldn't it work behind a NAT
09:18 πŸ”— xmc I am using bittorrent like it is 2004
09:18 πŸ”— xmc it works ok
09:19 πŸ”— Nemo_bis many clients don't support port forwarding
09:19 πŸ”— joepie91 Nemo_bis: BT doesn't require port forwarding
09:19 πŸ”— joepie91 it apparently just doesn't support active connections
09:19 πŸ”— Nemo_bis trasmission is the smartest client I found in that regard
09:20 πŸ”— joepie91 Nemo_bis: fairly sure Tixati also has 'the works' wrt hole punching
09:20 πŸ”— Nemo_bis (yes, it's surprising)
09:20 πŸ”— joepie91 then again, Tixati is GUI-only
09:20 πŸ”— joepie91 (Tixati is pretty much "think of a BT-related feature, any feature - yup, Tixati has it")
09:20 πŸ”— Nemo_bis joepie91: proprietary, won't even look
09:20 πŸ”— joepie91 (other than headlessness)
09:21 πŸ”— joepie91 Nemo_bis: I'd like to have a client that is A. open-source B. offers the same featureset as Tixati does and C. doesn't bog down my system
09:21 πŸ”— joepie91 been unable to find one as of yet
09:21 πŸ”— Nemo_bis almost everything ;) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_BitTorrent_clients#Features_II
09:21 πŸ”— midas rtorrent would be perfect for you joepie91
09:22 πŸ”— joepie91 midas: doubtful
09:22 πŸ”— joepie91 last I checked, rtorrent didn't provide the granularity that Tixati does
09:22 πŸ”— Nemo_bis I never had any problem with transmission, but I don't advocate for it
09:23 πŸ”— joepie91 Tixati will let me set a maximum incoming / outgoing / both bandwidth cap and priority for a specific peer for a specific torrent
09:23 πŸ”— joepie91 as well as show per-peer graphs
09:24 πŸ”— joepie91 (to give one example)
09:24 πŸ”— joepie91 also, Nemo_bis, it -does- have a form of search
09:24 πŸ”— joepie91 but it's built on their decentralized chatroom system
09:24 πŸ”— midas rtorrent has the ability to use a api
09:25 πŸ”— midas everything you need and more :p
09:25 πŸ”— Nemo_bis joepie91: again, useless to tell me; just edit the page please
09:25 πŸ”— Nemo_bis transmission offers that granularity
09:25 πŸ”— joepie91 midas: I really don't care about an API for desktop use...
09:25 πŸ”— midas anyway, this is something for #archiveteam-bs
09:25 πŸ”— joepie91 oh, I was under the impression that we were in -bs
09:25 πŸ”— joepie91 derp
09:26 πŸ”— joepie91 Nemo_bis: if it does, I haven't seen it, and I've looked for it in the past
09:26 πŸ”— Nemo_bis midas: not as long as we're focused on improving our docs :) I added something to http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Internet_Archive#Uploading_to_archive.org
09:26 πŸ”— joepie91 (also, Transmission is a resource hog when you have a lot of torrents)
09:26 πŸ”— joepie91 and Nemo_bis, how come you're not in -bs
09:26 πŸ”— Nemo_bis joepie91: I use it all the time :) just open torrent details
09:27 πŸ”— Nemo_bis I'm not interested in BS and I already have 80 windows on this irssi
09:34 πŸ”— Nemo_bis if something is said there that I/others should know, please remember to update the wiki :)
09:35 πŸ”— Nemo_bis which allows to benefit from https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Cunningham%27s_Law
10:18 πŸ”— godane so looks like 2013-02 of abc news videos is most complete since 2011-03
12:39 πŸ”— Dud1 Is there any current projects?
13:54 πŸ”— Nemo_bis Dud1: https://code.google.com/p/wikiteam/ is always on ;)
14:19 πŸ”— Dud1 Nemo_bis: cool I'll take a look. Is there a room for them?
14:21 πŸ”— Nemo_bis Dud1: yes, #wikiteam
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