[00:54] i donât know if this is appropriate but should we be archiving ISIS and other terrorist groups websites? If they have any? Apologies if what i said is uncalled for. [00:56] yes [00:56] I agree [02:41] i don't think you should apologize, if it's notable then it should be archived [02:44] arkhive: 'A list of âThe most important jihadi and support sites for jihad and the mujahideen on Twitterââ was recently posted on the Shumukh al-Islam forum, allowing users to identify key accounts they might wish to follow.' http://online-jihad.com/ [02:51] arkhive: it looks like the premier jihadi forum is https://shamikh1.info/vb/ but login required and I suspect registration is closed right now [08:55] there has gotta be more jihadi websites and twitter accounts and such. [11:30] Anyone who wants to share his systems/ip ratio and line speed? [11:30] If you're in the US, prepare to be sad [11:32] "systems/ip ratio"? [11:32] The amount of warriors or pipeline concurrent connections you have running and if you all use them on the same ip or on multiple ips [11:34] Eg. 5 systems (or virtual machines) with 20 connections each, running of 5 public ip's on a 200/200 line [11:36] 0 :{ [11:58] 0 [11:59] * midas rsync target [12:17] it depends on the project [12:27] I think we need to archive Mojang assets. the Microsoft acquisition rumors are unsettling. [12:27] balrog: throw it in the bot [12:28] midas: it won't grab the minecraft jars and libs [12:28] the URLs for those can be extracted from the launcher though [12:28] but it's sorta annoying /: [12:29] lets start with the website + forums [12:29] they do have a forum right? [12:30] not their own [12:30] their web sites are relatively small [12:30] Considering the recent events at Mojang and Bukkit it might be worth archiving all dev.bukkit.org and bukkit.org pages too [12:31] might be possible we won't see them again [12:31] minecraft.net and mojang.com [12:31] norbert79: that's being worked on [12:31] is the bukkit forum being archives though? [12:31] dev.bukkit.org and bukkit.org was the communiyt sides [12:31] mojang added balrog [12:31] including plugins [12:31] and twitterlists [12:32] forums.bukkit.org? [12:33] not yet touched that [12:33] bukkit has many sub-pages as well, dev.bukkit.org hosted tousands of plugins too [12:33] dev and forums are the most important [12:33] Well, yes [12:34] I still can't get over this... So many things occured and the whole thing falling apart in two weeks [12:35] balrog: jars, like this? http://assets.minecraft.net/ [12:36] dx: yes but that's not all of it [12:36] I decompiled the launcher and have been digging for the URLs for the jars that it downloads [12:37] Keinett Launcher 1.404 is capable grabbing 1.8 too [12:37] you might want to tray that [12:37] try [12:37] the way how files are accessed has been changed with 1.7.5 [12:38] before that files had fixed places, then it was changed to UUID based solution [12:38] I must also launch every version of the JARs, so I can grab them all both Linux and Windows [12:38] balrog: do you care about current versions, or past ones too? [12:39] bah, it's all the same method as with snapshots which are also "current" [12:39] umm you're asking ArchiveTeam that question? :p [12:39] heh [12:39] ok ok [12:39] :) [12:39] * dx is clearly new here [12:39] if someone could do the same for MacOS too, it would be a great help [12:39] libraries differ based on OS [12:41] btw, what about http://www.spigotmc.org/ ? they are playing with fire after having received a DMCA - took them 4 days to remove access to the files and now they are continuing development with binary patches [12:43] they are talking about this stuff with lawyers but i'm worried that the whole site could get taken down because something goes wrong [12:43] ...at the same time i'm not sure if it's okay to host legally gray stuff in archive.org [13:03] balrog: http://wiki.vg/Game_Files [13:04] oh, ha [13:04] that makes it easy :3 [13:04] :D [13:11] balrog: not mentioned in that page, the minecraft_server..jar one also has an .exe variant [13:20] balrog: this is not the whole thing... all assets, like sound and music are spread different [13:20] balrog: That's not included in that Wiki [13:21] Oh, wait, bottom was missing [13:21] now I see it [13:21] YEP [13:21] didn't realise the page wasn't loaded full for a moment [13:21] the mojang.com archivebot task is also downloading a bunch of jars, btw [13:22] from old blog posts that linked to those, i guess [13:22] yeah [13:22] those probably won't be in this list [13:22] since that's pre-modern launcher [13:23] well, actually, versions.json goes all the way down to alpha [13:25] these are hosted in new URLs (s3.amazonetc instead of assets.minecraft) so they can be downloaded by the new launcher, so they aren't exact duplicates [13:26] dx: they're packed slightly differently [13:26] like libs and stuff are tweaked [13:26] oh, neat [13:26] i was wondering how they fixed the compatibility issues with very old releases, thought it was all from the launcher [13:35] balrog: so, do i send this one to the bot? http://dequis.org/assets.minecraft.net.txt [13:35] is that complete? :p [13:35] I don't see the ancient alphas/betas in there [13:35] or are they? [13:36] betas are there, alphas aren't [13:36] it's just what the .xml at the root points to [13:36] you can tell they are betas because "1_9-pre6" [13:37] I meant the ancient ones [13:37] which do show up in the launcher [13:38] i don't know where else to get those [13:38] and i assume you're having fun with those json right now [13:38] I'm not right now, fairly busy with other stuff [13:38] gotcha, was wrong to assume :D [13:38] * dx does it [13:39] well, sending assets.minecraft.net to the bot, 'just in case' [14:03] I just received note of shinywhitebox video hosting shutting down as of december 1: https://support.shinywhitebox.com/hc/en-us/articles/202956684-OCP-is-being-discontinued-from-1st-of-Dec-2014 [14:07] dx: balrog: norbert79: https://twitter.com/joepie91/status/509704305067454464 [14:07] and midas [14:09] dx: The answer for if you should stick anything at archive.org is: YES [14:09] for all cases [14:09] Don't care about the legality of it :P [14:14] ersi: i've been told that when it's a few petabytes of nonsense absolutely nobody cares about it's a "maybe" instead of a "yes" [14:14] rsync://62.210.84.236/wallbase.cc/ pls mirror if possible [14:15] dx: That's also valid. Especially for that scale [14:15] I'm pluesch ... but not at home right now [14:17] joepie91: ha, nice one with that "promise", but nowadays microsoft isn't really as hostile to open source as they used to be [14:18] dx: microsoft only open-sources things when they don't think they can make any more money off it [14:18] discussing companies and policies and stuff belongs in #archiveteam-bs though I guess [14:18] and/or when it actively contributes to their market position [14:18] ding ding [14:26] joepie91: look at what Microsoft did with Flight Simulator [14:28] balrog: ? [14:28] oh [14:28] -bs [14:28] lol [14:40] joepie91: Yeah, won't get it Open Sourced, but there are many projects ongoing [14:41] and this looks quite advanced: http://terasology.org/ [14:41] of course not compatible with MC, but it would be a good base for an open source clone [15:32] did we grab minecraft.com? [17:50] SketchCow, do you know (4)chanarchive.org? [17:50] you probably do, anyway [17:55] they almost shut down a couple of years ago (2012 I think), but that was prevented by the admin team behind the current incarnation of encyclopedia dramatica [17:56] about a year or more ago chanarchive.org started becoming unresponsive and ultimately it went offline [17:57] I talked with one of the admins about it and he told me they didnt have the manpower to maintain the site [17:58] I'm planning on contacting him again about whether the admin team might want to give the files to AT or IA [17:58] it could be they dont have the files anymore, I plan on finding out whether they still have them later this evening [17:59] I remember hearing some mumbling about 500 GBs of archived 4chan threads [18:00] I might be able to hook you up with them about this if it can still be worked out [18:00] you guys* [18:02] dx: did you figure it out? [18:24] Muad-Dib: PM [18:40] would be cool if it works out, I'm running archive.moe through archivebot since these chan archives seem to be short lived in general [18:42] its bigger than I expected though [19:02] I don't know if I'm the first to break the news here, but Twitpic is shutting down. http://blog.twitpic.com/2014/09/twitpic-is-shutting-down/ [19:03] #quitpic for the project chatroom [20:01] nitro2k01: we are already banned :) [21:09] I was thinking that Wikipedia should have an article/wiki on T-Mobiles UnCarrier events and what they offer(uggh) [21:31] is it me or are bukkit forums down [21:32] ded [21:34] works for me [21:35] balrog: enterprise class tech support http://dump.dequis.org/k_xV6.txt [21:36] :D yep [21:37] (it's just a community channel, but dinnerbone and grum lurk there) [22:31] a [23:37] arkhive: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-Mobile_US#The_.22UnCarrier.22 not good enough? [23:37] though it doesn't have 7 yet