#archiveteam 2014-09-10,Wed

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00:54 πŸ”— arkhive i donҀ™t know if this is appropriate but should we be archiving ISIS and other terrorist groups websites? If they have any? Apologies if what i said is uncalled for.
00:56 πŸ”— godane yes
00:56 πŸ”— vantec I agree
02:41 πŸ”— pft i don't think you should apologize, if it's notable then it should be archived
02:44 πŸ”— ivan` arkhive: 'A list of Γ’Β€ΒœThe most important jihadi and support sites for jihad and the mujahideen on TwitterҀ™Ò€ was recently posted on the Shumukh al-Islam forum, allowing users to identify key accounts they might wish to follow.' http://online-jihad.com/
02:51 πŸ”— ivan` arkhive: it looks like the premier jihadi forum is https://shamikh1.info/vb/ but login required and I suspect registration is closed right now
08:55 πŸ”— arkhive there has gotta be more jihadi websites and twitter accounts and such.
11:30 πŸ”— Francis Anyone who wants to share his systems/ip ratio and line speed?
11:30 πŸ”— ersi If you're in the US, prepare to be sad
11:32 πŸ”— schbirid "systems/ip ratio"?
11:32 πŸ”— Francis The amount of warriors or pipeline concurrent connections you have running and if you all use them on the same ip or on multiple ips
11:34 πŸ”— Francis Eg. 5 systems (or virtual machines) with 20 connections each, running of 5 public ip's on a 200/200 line
11:36 πŸ”— schbirid 0 :{
11:58 πŸ”— midas 0
11:59 πŸ”— * midas rsync target
12:17 πŸ”— Cameron_D it depends on the project
12:27 πŸ”— balrog I think we need to archive Mojang assets. the Microsoft acquisition rumors are unsettling.
12:27 πŸ”— midas balrog: throw it in the bot
12:28 πŸ”— balrog midas: it won't grab the minecraft jars and libs
12:28 πŸ”— balrog the URLs for those can be extracted from the launcher though
12:28 πŸ”— balrog but it's sorta annoying /:
12:29 πŸ”— midas lets start with the website + forums
12:29 πŸ”— midas they do have a forum right?
12:30 πŸ”— balrog not their own
12:30 πŸ”— balrog their web sites are relatively small
12:30 πŸ”— norbert79 Considering the recent events at Mojang and Bukkit it might be worth archiving all dev.bukkit.org and bukkit.org pages too
12:31 πŸ”— norbert79 might be possible we won't see them again
12:31 πŸ”— balrog minecraft.net and mojang.com
12:31 πŸ”— balrog norbert79: that's being worked on
12:31 πŸ”— balrog is the bukkit forum being archives though?
12:31 πŸ”— norbert79 dev.bukkit.org and bukkit.org was the communiyt sides
12:31 πŸ”— midas mojang added balrog
12:31 πŸ”— norbert79 including plugins
12:31 πŸ”— midas and twitterlists
12:32 πŸ”— balrog forums.bukkit.org?
12:33 πŸ”— midas not yet touched that
12:33 πŸ”— norbert79 bukkit has many sub-pages as well, dev.bukkit.org hosted tousands of plugins too
12:33 πŸ”— balrog dev and forums are the most important
12:33 πŸ”— norbert79 Well, yes
12:34 πŸ”— norbert79 I still can't get over this... So many things occured and the whole thing falling apart in two weeks
12:35 πŸ”— dx balrog: jars, like this? http://assets.minecraft.net/
12:36 πŸ”— balrog dx: yes but that's not all of it
12:36 πŸ”— balrog I decompiled the launcher and have been digging for the URLs for the jars that it downloads
12:37 πŸ”— norbert79 Keinett Launcher 1.404 is capable grabbing 1.8 too
12:37 πŸ”— norbert79 you might want to tray that
12:37 πŸ”— norbert79 try
12:37 πŸ”— norbert79 the way how files are accessed has been changed with 1.7.5
12:38 πŸ”— norbert79 before that files had fixed places, then it was changed to UUID based solution
12:38 πŸ”— norbert79 I must also launch every version of the JARs, so I can grab them all both Linux and Windows
12:38 πŸ”— dx balrog: do you care about current versions, or past ones too?
12:39 πŸ”— dx bah, it's all the same method as with snapshots which are also "current"
12:39 πŸ”— balrog umm you're asking ArchiveTeam that question? :p
12:39 πŸ”— dx heh
12:39 πŸ”— dx ok ok
12:39 πŸ”— norbert79 :)
12:39 πŸ”— * dx is clearly new here
12:39 πŸ”— norbert79 if someone could do the same for MacOS too, it would be a great help
12:39 πŸ”— norbert79 libraries differ based on OS
12:41 πŸ”— dx btw, what about http://www.spigotmc.org/ ? they are playing with fire after having received a DMCA - took them 4 days to remove access to the files and now they are continuing development with binary patches
12:43 πŸ”— dx they are talking about this stuff with lawyers but i'm worried that the whole site could get taken down because something goes wrong
12:43 πŸ”— dx ...at the same time i'm not sure if it's okay to host legally gray stuff in archive.org
13:03 πŸ”— dx balrog: http://wiki.vg/Game_Files
13:04 πŸ”— balrog oh, ha
13:04 πŸ”— balrog that makes it easy :3
13:04 πŸ”— dx :D
13:11 πŸ”— dx balrog: not mentioned in that page, the minecraft_server.<version>.jar one also has an .exe variant
13:20 πŸ”— norbert79 balrog: this is not the whole thing... all assets, like sound and music are spread different
13:20 πŸ”— norbert79 balrog: That's not included in that Wiki
13:21 πŸ”— norbert79 Oh, wait, bottom was missing
13:21 πŸ”— norbert79 now I see it
13:21 πŸ”— dx YEP
13:21 πŸ”— norbert79 didn't realise the page wasn't loaded full for a moment
13:21 πŸ”— dx the mojang.com archivebot task is also downloading a bunch of jars, btw
13:22 πŸ”— dx from old blog posts that linked to those, i guess
13:22 πŸ”— balrog yeah
13:22 πŸ”— balrog those probably won't be in this list
13:22 πŸ”— balrog since that's pre-modern launcher
13:23 πŸ”— dx well, actually, versions.json goes all the way down to alpha
13:25 πŸ”— dx these are hosted in new URLs (s3.amazonetc instead of assets.minecraft) so they can be downloaded by the new launcher, so they aren't exact duplicates
13:26 πŸ”— balrog dx: they're packed slightly differently
13:26 πŸ”— balrog like libs and stuff are tweaked
13:26 πŸ”— dx oh, neat
13:26 πŸ”— dx i was wondering how they fixed the compatibility issues with very old releases, thought it was all from the launcher
13:35 πŸ”— dx balrog: so, do i send this one to the bot? http://dequis.org/assets.minecraft.net.txt
13:35 πŸ”— balrog is that complete? :p
13:35 πŸ”— balrog I don't see the ancient alphas/betas in there
13:35 πŸ”— balrog or are they?
13:36 πŸ”— dx betas are there, alphas aren't
13:36 πŸ”— dx it's just what the .xml at the root points to
13:36 πŸ”— dx you can tell they are betas because "1_9-pre6"
13:37 πŸ”— balrog I meant the ancient ones
13:37 πŸ”— balrog which do show up in the launcher
13:38 πŸ”— dx i don't know where else to get those
13:38 πŸ”— dx and i assume you're having fun with those json right now
13:38 πŸ”— balrog I'm not right now, fairly busy with other stuff
13:38 πŸ”— dx gotcha, was wrong to assume :D
13:38 πŸ”— * dx does it
13:39 πŸ”— dx well, sending assets.minecraft.net to the bot, 'just in case'
14:03 πŸ”— Superfud I just received note of shinywhitebox video hosting shutting down as of december 1: https://support.shinywhitebox.com/hc/en-us/articles/202956684-OCP-is-being-discontinued-from-1st-of-Dec-2014
14:07 πŸ”— joepie91 dx: balrog: norbert79: https://twitter.com/joepie91/status/509704305067454464
14:07 πŸ”— joepie91 and midas
14:09 πŸ”— ersi dx: The answer for if you should stick anything at archive.org is: YES
14:09 πŸ”— ersi for all cases
14:09 πŸ”— ersi Don't care about the legality of it :P
14:14 πŸ”— dx ersi: i've been told that when it's a few petabytes of nonsense absolutely nobody cares about it's a "maybe" instead of a "yes"
14:14 πŸ”— pluesch2 rsync://62.210.84.236/wallbase.cc/ pls mirror if possible
14:15 πŸ”— ersi dx: That's also valid. Especially for that scale
14:15 πŸ”— pluesch2 I'm pluesch ... but not at home right now
14:17 πŸ”— dx joepie91: ha, nice one with that "promise", but nowadays microsoft isn't really as hostile to open source as they used to be
14:18 πŸ”— joepie91 dx: microsoft only open-sources things when they don't think they can make any more money off it
14:18 πŸ”— ersi discussing companies and policies and stuff belongs in #archiveteam-bs though I guess
14:18 πŸ”— joepie91 and/or when it actively contributes to their market position
14:18 πŸ”— ersi ding ding
14:26 πŸ”— balrog joepie91: look at what Microsoft did with Flight Simulator
14:28 πŸ”— joepie91 balrog: ?
14:28 πŸ”— joepie91 oh
14:28 πŸ”— joepie91 -bs
14:28 πŸ”— joepie91 lol
14:40 πŸ”— norbert79 joepie91: Yeah, won't get it Open Sourced, but there are many projects ongoing
14:41 πŸ”— norbert79 and this looks quite advanced: http://terasology.org/
14:41 πŸ”— norbert79 of course not compatible with MC, but it would be a good base for an open source clone
15:32 πŸ”— midas did we grab minecraft.com?
17:50 πŸ”— Muad-Dib SketchCow, do you know (4)chanarchive.org?
17:50 πŸ”— Muad-Dib you probably do, anyway
17:55 πŸ”— Muad-Dib they almost shut down a couple of years ago (2012 I think), but that was prevented by the admin team behind the current incarnation of encyclopedia dramatica
17:56 πŸ”— Muad-Dib about a year or more ago chanarchive.org started becoming unresponsive and ultimately it went offline
17:57 πŸ”— Muad-Dib I talked with one of the admins about it and he told me they didnt have the manpower to maintain the site
17:58 πŸ”— Muad-Dib I'm planning on contacting him again about whether the admin team might want to give the files to AT or IA
17:58 πŸ”— Muad-Dib it could be they dont have the files anymore, I plan on finding out whether they still have them later this evening
17:59 πŸ”— Muad-Dib I remember hearing some mumbling about 500 GBs of archived 4chan threads
18:00 πŸ”— Muad-Dib I might be able to hook you up with them about this if it can still be worked out
18:00 πŸ”— Muad-Dib you guys*
18:02 πŸ”— balrog dx: did you figure it out?
18:24 πŸ”— joepie91 Muad-Dib: PM
18:40 πŸ”— DFJustin would be cool if it works out, I'm running archive.moe through archivebot since these chan archives seem to be short lived in general
18:42 πŸ”— DFJustin its bigger than I expected though
19:02 πŸ”— nitro2k02 I don't know if I'm the first to break the news here, but Twitpic is shutting down. http://blog.twitpic.com/2014/09/twitpic-is-shutting-down/
19:03 πŸ”— insane_al #quitpic for the project chatroom
20:01 πŸ”— schbirid nitro2k01: we are already banned :)
21:09 πŸ”— arkhive I was thinking that Wikipedia should have an article/wiki on T-Mobiles UnCarrier events and what they offer(uggh)
21:31 πŸ”— balrog is it me or are bukkit forums down
21:32 πŸ”— Muad-Dib[ ded
21:34 πŸ”— dx works for me
21:35 πŸ”— dx balrog: enterprise class tech support http://dump.dequis.org/k_xV6.txt
21:36 πŸ”— balrog :D yep
21:37 πŸ”— dx (it's just a community channel, but dinnerbone and grum lurk there)
22:31 πŸ”— philpem a
23:37 πŸ”— wp494 arkhive: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-Mobile_US#The_.22UnCarrier.22 not good enough?
23:37 πŸ”— wp494 though it doesn't have 7 yet
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