#archiveteam 2014-10-04,Sat

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03:51 πŸ”— LD100 "Archive Team News" on the main page seems to be very outdated or wasn't there any project last year?
04:09 πŸ”— xmc the wiki isn't really kept up to date
04:09 πŸ”— xmc you're welcome to fix that if you'd like to
04:13 πŸ”— chfoo see http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Current_Projects&action=history. you can't edit the main page however
04:16 πŸ”— wp494 the IRC section was broken off into a template where people that aren't SketchCow can edit it
04:17 πŸ”— wp494 why not do the same thing for the news thing and the recently ended projects area?
04:17 πŸ”— wp494 hell, the one in the IRC section is redundant with the exception of "missed the mark"
06:14 πŸ”— Emcy is quitpic finished now
06:14 πŸ”— Emcy did we get all of it
09:23 πŸ”— xmc Emcy: no and no
09:23 πŸ”— Emcy what did we miss. The tracker says 0 jobs remaining
09:24 πŸ”— xmc it's paused
09:24 πŸ”— xmc iirc
11:00 πŸ”— bzc6p I don't know if anything needs to be done about it or not, but to make sure let me mention that Panoramio is going to be closed down, and parts of it will be migrated to Google Maps Views. Some community features (comments, favourite photographers and groups) will be lost.
11:00 πŸ”— bzc6p http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panoramio
11:00 πŸ”— bzc6p Bye.
11:37 πŸ”— Arkiver2 Panoramio shutting down?
11:39 πŸ”— Arkiver2 Shouldn't be too hard to save
11:39 πŸ”— Arkiver2 At least the images won't, looks like they are just numbered, not randomly numbered
11:39 πŸ”— Arkiver2 I have to go in a bit, but when I'm back I'll start working on a project
11:44 πŸ”— Arkiver2 I can't find a lot of information about the shutdown though
11:46 πŸ”— will__ I've just thought about what would happen if imgur ever shut down...
11:48 πŸ”— will__ That really wouldn't be good
11:52 πŸ”— garyrh this seems to be the oldest photo there (or at least the smallest id): http://www.panoramio.com/photo/15
12:09 πŸ”— Arkiver2 I'm back in a few hours. will be working on panoramio then.
12:09 πŸ”— Arkiver2 The project will likely start tomorrow
12:17 πŸ”— bzc6p Arkiver2: maybe the Wikipedia article is a good starting point, there are some links to follow.
12:18 πŸ”— bzc6p They say that the photos will (? all?) be migrated to the Maps.
12:19 πŸ”— bzc6p And we talk about 80 million photos
12:19 πŸ”— bzc6p so I don't know if they must be saved.
12:19 πŸ”— bzc6p People who protest against this act of Google worry about the community things like forums, millions of comments, friends etc.
12:27 πŸ”— bzc6p This seems to be the initial announcement: https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/panoramio-questions-support/vTsUTaW_EDo
12:27 πŸ”— Emcy panoramio was cool
12:27 πŸ”— Emcy comments being lost is bad
12:27 πŸ”— Emcy people have neat stories about their pictures
12:27 πŸ”— bzc6p and this seems to be a good sum-up of what is going to happen: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/panoramio-questions-support/R5toz0EAB8k
12:28 πŸ”— Emcy the shutdowns seem to be coming faster dont they
12:28 πŸ”— Emcy i suppose its true that the web really is consolidating into about 10 websites
12:30 πŸ”— bzc6p This is an analysis from cnet: http://www.cnet.com/news/google-to-axe-panoramio-photo-sharing-service-move-to-views/
12:32 πŸ”— bzc6p And an article about the founders' protesting: http://www.cnet.com/news/panoramio-founders-try-persuading-google-not-to-kill-site/
12:55 πŸ”— n00b830 Sorry to bother you all. I had a question about uploading to archive.org. I have some websites archived (not in warc unfortunately) that I want to upload. They are several hundred GBs in size, compressed.
12:55 πŸ”— n00b830 So my question is, once I have uploaded them are they safe forever on archive.org? I know it's bad practice but I really need to free up my hard drive space, so I was hoping to be able to delete my local copies once they have been uploaded to archive.org
12:56 πŸ”— n00b830 I've never done this before, sorry if it is a dumb question
12:56 πŸ”— n00b830 Thanks for your help!
12:59 πŸ”— bzc6p n00b830: If you upload to archive.org, that's a good thing.
12:59 πŸ”— bzc6p If you can keep another copy of it, that's even better. But if you can't, you don't have to, of yourse.
13:00 πŸ”— bzc6p As far as I know, there is a mirror of the Internet Archive in Egypt.
13:01 πŸ”— bzc6p And anyone can download content uploaded to archive.org, and, say, keep a copy of their favourite website.
13:02 πŸ”— bzc6p Furthermore, some hundreds of gigabytes won't mean so much amount 10 years later, than it means now. So it will be even simpler to store.
13:03 πŸ”— n00b830 Okay, thank you! I have another question if that is okay? Since the file size is so big I don't really fancy trying to upload it via a web browser. Is there a ftp way to upload to archive.org?
13:04 πŸ”— garyrh n00b830, there's a list of tools here: http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Internet_Archive#Uploading_to_archive.org
13:07 πŸ”— n00b830 Thank you, I will look into that
13:07 πŸ”— n00b830 Thanks everyone for the help and advice!
16:22 πŸ”— Arkiver2 Emcy: I'll do my best to save the comments ;)
16:30 πŸ”— Emcy Arkiver2 cool. If its a warrior project ill help
17:01 πŸ”— Arkiver2 garyrh: thanks for creating the wiki page for panoramio!
17:01 πŸ”— Arkiver2 I'm working on the scripts
17:01 πŸ”— Arkiver2 They will be ready soon
18:50 πŸ”— Arkiver2 So let's think of a channel name for panoramio
18:51 πŸ”— Kazzy panorunaway
18:51 πŸ”— Kazzy nah that sucks
18:51 πŸ”— bzc6p My first thought was paranoimo for some reason
18:52 πŸ”— xmc paranormio
19:12 πŸ”— chfoo addiopanoramio
19:12 πŸ”— xmc deletio
19:13 πŸ”— xmc removio
19:15 πŸ”— chfoo panoraddio
19:24 πŸ”— Arkiver2 paranormio is awesome
19:24 πŸ”— Arkiver2 so is addiopanoramio
19:33 πŸ”— Nemo_bis is panoramio closing?
19:33 πŸ”— xmc yes
19:33 πŸ”— Nemo_bis weird
19:33 πŸ”— Nemo_bis I wonder if they'll restore Wikimedia Commons in maps now :)
19:34 πŸ”— Nemo_bis Ah, no, the opposite :[ «Google announced they would be "migrating" Panoramio over to Google Maps»
19:38 πŸ”— Arkiver2 So do we have a deadline date?
19:43 πŸ”— bzc6p Evan Rapoport: "Before migrating any imagery, weҀ™ll make sure that Views reaches a level of feature maturity that supports the needs of the community. We're not there yet, but weҀ™re actively working to address the problems weҀ™ve heard from the community"
19:43 πŸ”— bzc6p Brian McClendon: "As we migrate to Views, which is a very new product, I assure you we will not do so until we believe the communities needs are met."
19:43 πŸ”— bzc6p So, no specific.
19:46 πŸ”— Nemo_bis https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/commons-l/2014-October/007370.html
19:46 πŸ”— Nemo_bis I'd support an "export my stuff from Panoramio to Commons" feature
20:25 πŸ”— SketchCow ----------------------------------------------
20:25 πŸ”— SketchCow All Archive Team members hereby invited by me
20:25 πŸ”— SketchCow https://ia801401.us.archive.org/34/items/LibraryBuildingInvitation/LibraryBuildingInvitation-nolink.html
20:25 πŸ”— SketchCow ----------------------------------------------
20:31 πŸ”— Arkiver2 Oh wow, awesome! I wish I could come... :(
21:27 πŸ”— Diesel_ I would be there in a heartbeat, if I wasn't clear across the country
22:25 πŸ”— joepie91 I would be there in a heartbeat, if I weren't on a different continent and probably on some kind of list that'd get me arrested the moment I set foot in the US
22:25 πŸ”— joepie91 lol
22:29 πŸ”— yipdw joepie91: easy fix there; never set foot in the US -- go the IA event on a Segway
22:34 πŸ”— Riviera Just levitate; or have you heard of anyone floating being arrested?
22:37 πŸ”— garyrh Levitate AND use a Segway
22:38 πŸ”— Riviera garyrh: http://revolutionmedia.ign.com/revolution/image/article/673/673861/n-query-20060131101930581.jpg
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