#archiveteam 2014-10-15,Wed

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Time Nickname Message
00:00 🔗 SketchCow Why hello.
00:00 🔗 SketchCow OK, taking advise.
00:01 🔗 SketchCow cdbbsarchive needs to split. It's now shareware and jolly roger living together.
00:02 🔗 balrog how much of each?
00:02 🔗 balrog looking over the list I see mostly shareware... or do you mean recent uploads?
00:09 🔗 SketchCow I don't quite know.
00:09 🔗 SketchCow (How much of each)
00:09 🔗 SketchCow But I need to pull stuff out of cdbbsarchive
00:10 🔗 SketchCow https://archive.org/details/cdroms is taken as a URL
00:10 🔗 SketchCow Unless xmc or others have a different idea, I'm thinking cdsoftware
00:20 🔗 xmc hum
00:21 🔗 xmc is this a new home for jollyrogerware or shareware?
00:24 🔗 xmc "foundsoftware"
00:30 🔗 SketchCow "Oh, look what we found here."
00:34 🔗 chfoo who wants to save some gamemaker games? yoyogames seems to be closing their gamemaker sandbox site
00:35 🔗 chfoo i have a list of 109925 games
00:35 🔗 balrog chfoo: ugh, they are? :(
00:36 🔗 balrog SketchCow: cdsoftware is fine, imho
00:36 🔗 balrog or foundsoftware, but... do we want to separate it by media type?
00:37 🔗 balrog SketchCow: going to ask again: piles of dr. dobbs journals that appear to predate those scanned in the paywalled digital archives and other industry magazines. want?
00:37 🔗 balrog like, they would have to be scanned and all
00:38 🔗 balrog I'm not saying "do you want them" because I know you do but more like "what to do"
00:40 🔗 SketchCow https://archive.org/details/SFBG-10-08-2014
00:40 🔗 SketchCow I trust you
00:41 🔗 SketchCow Upload them and I will deal
00:41 🔗 balrog paper, not scanned
00:41 🔗 balrog or I wouldn't be asking :)
00:48 🔗 godane i'm starting to upload my pdfs that i could find
00:48 🔗 godane of San Francisco Bay Guardian
00:48 🔗 godane its not everything
00:48 🔗 godane 1 from 2013 and 39 from 2014
00:49 🔗 godane uploaded: https://archive.org/details/San_Francisco_Bay_Guardian_47.52
00:50 🔗 balrog godane: nice :)
01:10 🔗 DFJustin cdromlibrary?
01:10 🔗 DFJustin I guess that leaves out dvds but the inclusive terms aren't as catchy
01:20 🔗 DFJustin makes you think of this rather than the jolly roger http://www.hau.edu.ph/university_library/images/facilities/erss1.jpg
01:21 🔗 godane the twilight cds/dvds collection can stay in cdbbsarchive i think
01:22 🔗 godane cause thats mostly odd to fit any where else
01:22 🔗 DFJustin I was also thinking that a good sub-collection would be 'CD-ROM Reference Shelf' with all the old encyclopedias and maps and whatnot
01:36 🔗 marc thx godane
01:37 🔗 marc sf library has everything but first two years.. on microfiche!
01:43 🔗 SketchCow DFJustin:
01:43 🔗 SketchCow 1. I have no emotional wreckage bunching up DVD and CD
01:44 🔗 SketchCow 2. I would happily make a CD-ROM Reference Collection as long as someone helps go through our piles
01:44 🔗 SketchCow 3. people should go through our piles.
01:51 🔗 chfoo SketchCow: does FOS have disk space? i estimated that gamemaker has about 500GB of games
01:52 🔗 SketchCow 3tb free on one drive, 5tb on another
01:53 🔗 SketchCow 01:43 < pfhawkins> OK, my first ever exposure to newsgroups has me sold on them
01:53 🔗 SketchCow 01:43 < pfhawkins> how did we ever abandon this amazing tech
01:58 🔗 Lord_Nigh pfhawkins: when the attorney general of new york banned them, that's when
02:20 🔗 chfoo the gamemaker project is ready. Wiki: http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=GameMaker_Sandbox Tracker: http://tracker.archiveteam.org/gamemakersandbox/ . The project is listed in the warriors page and should be ready to run
02:26 🔗 chfoo source code for manually running: https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/gamemaker-sandbox-grab
02:37 🔗 DFJustin I have a list of reference ones already because ocd
02:41 🔗 DFJustin http://pastebin.com/0E3qg32c
02:42 🔗 DFJustin there's a bunch in your latest batch too though
02:51 🔗 balrog SketchCow: https://files.app.net/w48hk4C5v.jpg
02:53 🔗 SketchCow fuck yeahhhhhh
02:55 🔗 marc isn't "because ocd" redundant punctuation on this channel ;)
02:55 🔗 DFJustin probably
02:58 🔗 balrog the whole place there is being torn up. I was there today and will try to stop by tomorrow; those are getting saved as is most of the interesting stuff. they just rushed this entire thing
02:59 🔗 balrog annoyingly enough it doesn't seem many of these even are available via the usual paywalled channels
03:04 🔗 godane ocd is the reason i'm here
03:04 🔗 marc ocd is our last, best chance to avoid infopocalypse
04:27 🔗 SketchCow ALL HAIL OCD
04:52 🔗 Elegance chfoo: Small project? No channel?
04:55 🔗 chfoo all the items are already loaded in the tracker except for the ones that need to be requeued due to anti-hotlink feature. i can't think of a clever channel name.
05:00 🔗 Elegance Hmm... no idea :D
05:00 🔗 Elegance *ideas
05:03 🔗 chfoo maybe something like gamebreaker or uhohgames
05:08 🔗 Elegance I'm fine with gamebreaker
05:09 🔗 Elegance Does the new rate limiting increase the wait time until an item is received and it drops the wait?
05:16 🔗 chfoo yes, the wait time should reset back to 60 seconds once it gets an item
05:23 🔗 SketchCow http://www.zvents.com/support/closure_notice
05:54 🔗 Elegance chfoo: Server's returning 502s already :P
05:55 🔗 Elegance http://sandbox.yoyogames.com/ Says it's on maint
06:04 🔗 BlueMax oh no did we miss our chance to get the sandbox
06:08 🔗 Elegance BlueMax: It went up just as you said that
06:09 🔗 BlueMax oh thank god
06:09 🔗 BlueMax I'm gonna get my Warrior going right now
06:11 🔗 BlueMax (used to love the sandbox back in the day)
06:12 🔗 Kazzy I'm moving a warrior over
06:13 🔗 Elegance I think my client exploded. Not getting any items.
06:13 🔗 Elegance Maybe it failed a bunch from the 502s? chfoo can I get a clear please?
06:57 🔗 BlueMax I've got no items for like half an hour now, stop stealing them all :P
06:58 🔗 Elegance Oops :(
07:02 🔗 Elegance BlueMax: Think it only gives out 20 items at a time. I'll stop my workers so you guys can get some items :D Waiting for a reset anyway.
07:14 🔗 godane looks like i don't have all of factionfiles.com
07:16 🔗 godane but i maybe more recent ids that start in the 516xxx area
07:16 🔗 godane anyways you guys got about 9 to 10gb of it anyways and it shouldn't be going down yet
07:27 🔗 BlueMax oh shit a game I made a long time ago just got archived
07:30 🔗 joepie91 lol
07:57 🔗 schbirid http://blog.moolah.io/2014/10/14/moolah-is-having-to-close-its-doors/
08:01 🔗 ersi Guess they ran out of moolah.
08:26 🔗 * BlueMax stabs ersi for that remark.
08:33 🔗 joepie91 schbirid: well, to be fair, that was a pretty transparent post
11:16 🔗 arkiver Elegance: you're cleared
12:04 🔗 Muad-Dib[ arkiver, SketchCow, I just came up with a name for that Halo stats project: Staylo :p
14:08 🔗 SadDM Word of warning for folks downloading pdf pages from Issuu in batches... some of them come back "HTTP/1.1 200 OK" but are zero length, so check your files before concatenating or uploading them.
14:20 🔗 marc meeting with sf bay guardian ex-staff today at 9am
14:20 🔗 marc they might have someone who still has access to the old CMS/database
14:39 🔗 marc nice @ godaneinbox - 40 issues of SFBG pdf
15:25 🔗 aaaaaaaaa http://blog.moolah.io/2014/10/15/the-reports-of-my-death-have-been-greatly-exaggerated/
16:03 🔗 SadDM script to download a pdf from Issuu (requires a bunch of stuff that I just happen to have installed): https://github.com/aeakett/attools/blob/master/download_from_issuu.sh
16:28 🔗 Nemo_bis I'll never understand why people use issuu
18:28 🔗 marc nemo: it's instant ios/ipad support i think for newspapers/magazines
18:28 🔗 marc thx saddm
18:29 🔗 marc talked to sfbg reporters today, they have years of word files they want to upload to archive- pre-publication files
18:29 🔗 marc might be able to dump whole drupal database
18:29 🔗 xmc cool
18:29 🔗 marc might be able to get new owners to put website back up to be scraped
18:29 🔗 marc nice @ pdfunite..
18:29 🔗 marc lol @ zsh-- keepin it real!
18:42 🔗 SadDM it's the range syntax that I know off the top of my head :-)
18:42 🔗 marc i'm an old school NeXT dude so j'enjoy
18:45 🔗 SadDM I really wish I could figure out an automatic way to get the full PDF download link... getting the pages one at a time is OK, but the original would definitly be better.
18:46 🔗 SadDM It's also really strange how some pages don't have pdfs... just jpgs
18:59 🔗 marc yes covers are only jpg
18:59 🔗 marc so if u grab each page u might get whole issue without cover
18:59 🔗 marc except for 'original file' link that godane found via facebook login
18:59 🔗 marc that is full pdf
19:00 🔗 SadDM The covers aren't necessarily jpg... I downloaded 4 or 5 docs and only one had a jpg cover
19:01 🔗 SadDM I ran across another doc whre only about 5-10% had pdf pages and for the rest I had to grab jpgs
19:06 🔗 marc ah soo
19:09 🔗 DFJustin maybe it depends if there is text on the page?
19:10 🔗 SadDM That's what I initially thought, but then I found an image-only page that had a pdf... but it does skew that way.
20:23 🔗 SketchCow Hi Jason - thanks so much for getting back to me!
20:23 🔗 SketchCow The editor wants: "screenshots of 90's AOL interface: logging on, chatrooms, downloading files, whatever can be found"
20:23 🔗 SketchCow Barry Crimmins, our documentary subject, was an early(ish) internet user, and championed legislation regulating some of the less savory uses of those early chat rooms. We just need general images, they can be still, screenshots, of that era (mid '90s) of AOL, for each of the above actions. Shots of a logon, chat rooms, a file downloading. Each or all of these.
20:23 🔗 SketchCow ...
20:23 🔗 SketchCow My interest in helping them has diminished.
20:24 🔗 SketchCow If someone wants it, I'll give contact info.
20:29 🔗 arkiver So.
20:29 🔗 arkiver We need a name for the Halo project
20:30 🔗 arkiver Muad-Dib was thinking of #staylo
20:30 🔗 arkiver any others?
20:30 🔗 ersi lololo? (Halo halo halo > 'lo lo lo' > lololo)
20:30 🔗 arkiver yes, I like lololo
20:30 🔗 arkiver heh
20:30 🔗 SketchCow Still thinking
20:31 🔗 arkiver I'll wait a bit then ;)
20:36 🔗 SketchCow #yolohalo
20:37 🔗 ersi you only halo once
20:37 🔗 ersi yoho
20:37 🔗 SketchCow Either
20:40 🔗 balrog SketchCow: lol. how about they get a copy of AOL 4.0 and fire it up? :D
21:03 🔗 arkiver Let's go with #yolohalo
21:04 🔗 arkiver "yoho" is maybe a bit far off from "halo" :P
21:04 🔗 arkiver So for the Halo project, please join: #yolohalo
21:25 🔗 Nemo_bis https://github.com/4pr0n/rip
21:26 🔗 xmc what is this, another open-source fusker?
21:26 🔗 xmc it seems fairly off-topic
21:27 🔗 Nemo_bis how so
21:42 🔗 LD100 (23:41:56) LD100: lol why are you changing code to halo? in qwiki?
21:43 🔗 LD100 arkiver: ^
21:44 🔗 Kazzy it's ok, he reverted it haha
21:44 🔗 Kazzy folders are hard, yo
22:03 🔗 marc heh i love Barry Crimmins he's pretty amazing
22:04 🔗 marc cool someone's docu'ing him
22:04 🔗 marc refer them to youtube
23:35 🔗 marc YO
23:35 🔗 marc sfbg.com back up
23:35 🔗 marc the owners put it back up for a little bit
23:35 🔗 marc etc
23:35 🔗 marc http://www.sfbg.com/specials/best-bay-2012
23:35 🔗 marc can we get archive.org to scrape or whatever??
23:35 🔗 marc owners agreed to put SF Bay Guardian back up yee haw
23:35 🔗 marc just for a bit tho
23:41 🔗 marc http://www.sfbg.com/issue_archive
23:41 🔗 marc back to 2006
23:47 🔗 balrog marc: a bit meaning how long?
23:54 🔗 arkiver Kazzy: everyone makes mistaked every now and then ;)
23:55 🔗 arkiver shows I'm getting tired
23:58 🔗 arkiver marc: archivebot is downloading sfbg.com, I put it in
23:59 🔗 arkiver do you know how long the site will stay online?

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