| Time |
Nickname |
Message |
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02:37
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SketchCow |
Excellent |
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14:52
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midas |
seems that twitpic is gone |
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14:53
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midas |
frontpage is empty |
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14:53
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midas |
but, data still exists: http://twitpic.com/135xa |
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14:54
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godane |
very odd |
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14:54
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godane |
send warrior after areas that need grabbing |
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15:11
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joepie91 |
503 Service Temporarily Unavailable |
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15:11
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joepie91 |
cc midas godane |
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15:11
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joepie91 |
(for the image URL) |
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15:12
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midas |
hm? works here? |
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15:12
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midas |
refresh it a couple of times |
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15:15
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godane |
https://dn3pm25xmtlyu.cloudfront.net/photos/large/1827262.jpg?1232052212&Expires=1414336322&Signature=M3Dx66kXYdcgrTVlxqBCPqZ2osLKCwd4OZj84B3L0h~33bi~TCd8395uq5ImqqVCZfCqUUwdenExmfPACy1rUXX8lIxK2v8fyZMUt6r-kZMO3b039g1hBRBWy9BM-EzmwENCD7qf34fFLjrTylRqCpIHvyKEQ3453-jz7F38wNA_&Key-Pair-Id=APKAIYVGSUJFNRFZBBTA |
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15:21
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ersi |
Outlook cloudy. |
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15:25
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godane |
i was hoping we could just attack the number.jpg ulrs |
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15:25
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godane |
but no |
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15:25
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godane |
you need special keys |
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15:25
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antomatic |
that's the change Noah made once the 500m were grabbed |
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15:25
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godane |
oh |
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15:25
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Kenshin |
sadly we didn't have the space for the last 300m |
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15:25
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Kenshin |
at that point of time when it was still unblocked |
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15:26
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Kenshin |
and because they announced no-close as well |
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15:26
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Kenshin |
there was no incentive to push for the last 300m |
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15:26
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Kenshin |
when they did announce re-close, too late, already locked the photos with key |
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15:26
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antomatic |
and archiving had temporarily stopped because he said "Yay, Twitpic is acquired, you want to go skateboards?" |
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15:26
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antomatic |
[This is how website owners speak, I imagine] |
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15:26
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Kenshin |
if we grabed the last 300m it would ahve probably been easier at this point really |
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15:27
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Kenshin |
in worse case we could have just redirected the base-36 URLs to base-10 image links |
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15:28
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Kenshin |
either way nothing more we can do |
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15:28
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antomatic |
500m is still a very good result |
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15:28
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antomatic |
especially given the circumstances |
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15:28
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Kenshin |
let's just say if they didn't announce the acquire |
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15:28
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|
Kenshin |
we would have continued |
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15:29
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Kenshin |
and probably got close to current |
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15:29
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antomatic |
Hindsight is always 20/20. |
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15:29
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Kenshin |
i blame it on the lack of storage |
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15:29
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antomatic |
As you say, it was hard to make a case for the space once they said it wasn't being wiped |
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15:29
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Kenshin |
i was pushing 3-4gbps nonstop for the cloudfront project |
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15:30
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Kenshin |
i got the 500m in 3 days |
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15:30
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antomatic |
even in the light of "won't be fooled again" there are always practical limits |
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15:30
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Kenshin |
I'd quote House, "Everybody lies" |
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15:30
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antomatic |
Hehe. :) |
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15:31
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antomatic |
All those weeny commenters on HN, all "they can't afford the transfer costs" and stuff. |
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15:31
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antomatic |
You'd have thought we were taking a dying man's last dime. |
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15:31
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ersi |
This is starting to be something for #archiveteam-bs |
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15:31
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Kenshin |
the 500m would have cost them a few thousands i guess |
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15:32
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antomatic |
It's a useful discussion for considering future AT policy and approaches to cases like these, though, maybe, ersi? |
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15:32
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Kenshin |
ersi: i think this is something everyone needs to learn about when archiving all future sites |
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15:32
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antomatic |
but -bs is fine too |
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15:33
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Kenshin |
AT needs a firm solution for the storage issue |
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15:33
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|
* |
antomatic nods |
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15:33
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yipdw |
someone give me a bunch of twitpic URLs |
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15:33
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yipdw |
ArchiveBot isn't banned and we have image access |
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15:33
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antomatic |
weh? |
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15:33
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yipdw |
just do it |
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15:34
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Kenshin |
yipdw: you can always do base36 conversion for 500m+ |
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15:34
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ersi |
Well, as long as it's not fretting about what we've lost for hundreds of lines and useless policy talk |
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15:34
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Kenshin |
yipdw: 49.213.23.196 |
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15:34
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Kenshin |
gah bad paste |
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15:34
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ersi |
Policy is, do (archiving) > talking |
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15:34
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Kenshin |
http://twitpic.com/89oqgx |
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15:35
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Kenshin |
ersi: yes but when storage is an issue, not possible to "do" |
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15:35
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antomatic |
archiving without a plan is just masturbation. :) |
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15:35
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yipdw |
watch http://archivebot.at.ninjawedding.org:4567/ |
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15:35
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|
* |
antomatic watches |
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15:35
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ersi |
Sometimes, making a plan is when archiving doesn't happen and the building burn down |
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15:35
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ersi |
So it's not just masturbation. Whatever, I'm out :) |
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15:36
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yipdw |
maybe I need to phantomjs that |
|
15:36
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yipdw |
huh yeah |
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15:37
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yipdw |
so yeah, either keep talking about archiving or URLs |
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15:37
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Kenshin |
yipdw: it worked |
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15:37
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|
Kenshin |
you grabed the image fine, 200 |
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15:37
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yipdw |
it's full of signed request shit, but yeah |
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15:37
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Kenshin |
well because it's a complete grab, the signing is fine |
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15:37
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Kenshin |
the html will link to the image |
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15:37
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yipdw |
yeah, it'll just screw wayback up without some processing |
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15:37
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|
yipdw |
oh yeah or that |
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15:37
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|
yipdw |
ANYWAY |
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15:38
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|
Kenshin |
lets move this to #quitpic |
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15:38
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yipdw |
ok |
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15:39
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godane |
antomatic: thats why i create plans with my archives |
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15:39
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|
godane |
looks at my funnyordie collection and you see the plan |
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15:39
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|
antomatic |
you do great work, godane. that needs to be said. |
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15:39
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|
antomatic |
always. |
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15:39
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godane |
grab older stuff first |
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15:40
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|
antomatic |
makes sense |
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15:40
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|
godane |
my advices is more for the stuff thats not shutting down |
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15:41
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|
godane |
cause otherwise you lose the stuff that more popular |
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15:43
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|
godane |
also this at least give you some thing if they shutdown with no warning |
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15:44
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|
godane |
with twitpic the best way of archiving that IA can handle is maybe grabbing the url images on the front pages that IA has |
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15:45
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godane |
this way you give IA something and you have less dead links in wayback machiine |
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15:46
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godane |
anyways i'm grab more global news videos |
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15:46
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godane |
like News Hour and News Hour Final |
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16:33
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SketchCow |
Morning |
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16:33
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|
SketchCow |
This went to -bs quick |
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18:31
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|
signius |
I am already running scripts on a couple of VPS boxes but when i try & run the scripts on a VM on my local LAN i am just getting Server returned 0 .........Sleeping |
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18:32
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|
signius |
What am i doing wrong ? or not doing that i should be ? |
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18:34
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Kazzy |
does the vm have internet access? |
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18:34
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|
signius |
yeah |
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19:07
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|
bzc6p |
TWITPIC "ACQUIRED" BY TWITTER. http://blog.twitpic.com/2014/10/twitpics-future/ |
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19:09
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|
bzc6p |
(the quotation marks mean "kind of") |
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19:10
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godane |
its at least saved in a read-only state |
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19:10
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godane |
but this one bothers me: You will still be able to login to your profile to delete content or delete your account on Twitpic.com |
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19:11
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godane |
also twitter gives all there stuff older then 6 months to the library of congress i think |
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19:13
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joepie91 |
"Twitter shares our goal of protecting our users and this data." |
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19:13
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joepie91 |
hahahahahahahaha. |
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19:13
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joepie91 |
I don't think there's any sharing involved there... |
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19:21
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pikhq |
godane: At the very least, if you send communication to Twitter saying "hey, we'd like to archive stuff!" they're likely to send a response. :P |
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19:23
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joepie91 |
pikhq: try to send actual communication to Twitter and then say that again :P |
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19:23
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pikhq |
I didn't say it would be more than a formletter. |
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19:23
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joepie91 |
pikhq: nono, you misunderstand |
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19:23
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joepie91 |
the problem isn't in the response received |
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19:23
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|
joepie91 |
the problem is in actually sending them a communication |
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19:23
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joepie91 |
I've tried this before |
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19:24
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pikhq |
They *do* have a mailing address, no? |
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19:24
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joepie91 |
after an hour I gave up on finding anything that wasn't an incredibly narrowly defined topic-specific contact form |
|
19:24
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joepie91 |
pikhq: snail mail? possibly, I have no idea |
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19:24
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joepie91 |
certainly not any kind of online human support |
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19:26
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pikhq |
Huh, impressive. Their website actually makes it hard to find contact info. |
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19:27
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joepie91 |
yep. |
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19:27
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joepie91 |
contract to Yahoo, the much-maligned destroyer of data, who have an actual online support department |
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19:27
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joepie91 |
contrast * |
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19:27
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|
joepie91 |
with a human responding |
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19:27
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joepie91 |
:P |
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19:27
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joepie91 |
anyway, this is going into -bs territory |
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19:33
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SketchCow |
"going" |
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19:33
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joepie91 |
shush :P |
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19:33
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SketchCow |
Dude, we passed WELCOME TO -BS, FIRST IN TANGENTS on the highway 3 hours ago |
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19:33
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joepie91 |
the siren didn't even go off yet! |
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19:57
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|
godane |
SketchCow: i started grabbing News Hour Toronto |
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19:58
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|
godane |
looks like they may have better archives then Global National archives |
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20:00
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|
chronomex |
someone wants an off topic siren? |
|
20:00
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|
chronomex |
woop woop woop off-topic siren |
|
20:00
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|
chronomex |
oh, that was half an hour ago |
|
20:09
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SketchCow |
Excellent |
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20:10
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godane |
looks like i can get episodes going back to 2013 |
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20:17
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|
godane |
SketchCow: there is also a english south korea news program called KBS News Today |
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20:17
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|
godane |
there episodes of that on youtube |
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22:58
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|
arkiver |
https://web.archive.org/web/20141007064755/http://www.genealogy.com/users/m/e/i/Paula-Arleen-Meinert/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-1583.html |
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22:58
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|
arkiver |
https://web.archive.org/web/20141007063953/http://www.genealogy.com/users/m/e/i/Paula-Arleen-Meinert/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-Index.html |
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22:58
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|
arkiver |
https://web.archive.org/web/20140929010450/http://www.mundia.com/be/Person/27883978/5094683264 |
|
22:58
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|
arkiver |
it's there |
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22:58
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|
arkiver |
and it's awesome |
|
22:59
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|
arkiver |
:) |
|
23:01
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|
arkiver |
https://web.archive.org/web/20140924190350/http://www.mundia.com/af/Search/Results?surname=BAHA&birthPlace=Afghanistan |