[00:00] yeah [00:15] They're a little expensive, but they're niiiice [00:19] Can't you do almost the same thing with a PDA phone and cardboard box? [00:33] you could, but I'd imagine some would prefer to have an extremely similar setup as to what the IA uses [00:37] only variables being the camera and the lighting [00:59] tfgbd_: ... PDA and cardboard box? explain? :P [01:03] Or anything with a camera [01:03] you then just shape the cardboard into a stand and position it [01:03] I found templates for it on the web before [01:08] oh, that [01:08] far from ideal, though [01:08] and you need a fairly high-res camera to pull it off [01:08] phone/PDA camera is unlikely to cut it [02:07] ia livestream http://www.ustream.tv/channel/the-poetry-activist [02:15] jason's on [05:19] SketchCow: since NSFW ended and all episodes are there i don't believe i will need access to nsfw_show collection anymore [05:29] OK [05:29] Hope I did well [05:29] Now I really, really need to go to bed [19:12] Drupal Core Highly Critical PSA: https://www.drupal.org/PSA-2014-003 [19:24] I just made a room of people laugh [19:24] With the line "if you have not patched this, do so immediately and continue reading this announcement" [19:32] :) [19:34] I run a Drupal site, but had forgotten that I run the 6.x which is not vurnerable to this specific bug [19:34] time to plan an update anyways [19:34] and off-site backups [20:06] Hi all, I work at Meetup and we just announced we're shutting down a service called "Meetup Everywhere" http://meetup.com/everywhere [20:07] I like you already [20:07] haha good! [20:07] :D [20:08] This is a plesent surprise (well not the shutting down part) but you get what I mean [20:08] hi parsons [20:08] howdy [20:08] what sort of data does this contain and what would be the best way to archive it? Also how much is there? [20:08] (also thanks for coming and telling us! That's generally not how we find out stuff is going away) [20:09] we got 33 days [20:09] looks like we could archivebot it [20:10] so these pages are very dynamic then.. changing accourding to what IP you got [20:10] Jason Scott gave a talk about this at Brooklyn Beta a couple weeks ago and I realized I was in the exact position he described [20:11] garyrh: I dont think that will get us the result we want [20:11] So, there isn't a ton of data, no user photos (I think) -- I can find out more specifics [20:12] Would like to help out/assist if I can make this easier somehow [20:12] first we have to figure out what kind of data we're looking at and how much. [20:18] a list of all meetups for a group can be seen by appending ?see_all=1 [20:18] e.g. http://www.meetup.com/Coursera/?see_all=1 [20:19] woah, I didn't even know that [20:19] err, communities [20:19] we call them "containers" internally [20:20] we have an API that lets you access that, too [20:20] I'm trying to get some data on the number of communities and groups [20:43] There are 6,623 communities, 102,538 local groups, and 217,979 events [21:12] they will be deleted december 1st? [21:22] yes, that's correct. [21:51] Xerox Alto and CP/M OS source code released [21:51] http://www.itworld.com/article/2838925/exposed-xerox-alto-and-cp-m-os-source-code-released.html [21:52] i saw that already [21:53] ups, if it's been posted here already i apologise. It seemed it will be interesting to people here [21:59] primus104: it is interesting to people here :) [22:00] see also http://toastytech.com/guis/salto.html [22:01] oh, I didn't see it here [22:01] but I did see it already [22:58] is .zip the best kompress/archiv format for longtime backup? or any better suggestions? [23:01] zip is ok, tar is ok, other things are less ok [23:02] what are your thoughts on 7z ? (the format, not the tool) [23:07] in terms of last-defense recovery, afaik 7z has no such tool. [23:07] of course for unix-like systems, tar is generally better [23:08] 7z with par [23:08] or for that matter anything with par2 [23:08] par meaning par2 [23:09] yes, par2 is always an option. [23:13] hm I dont think I need par2 as I am going to save them on amazon glacier (its photos and you have to pay some mony per file so I am think about grouping fotos together) [23:15] 7z has a couple drawbacks for this purpose, one is that if you use the solid archiving feature, any corruption in the file could affect a large percentage of the contents [23:15] but par could alleviate that [23:16] if the images are already compressed, tar (or zip with no compression) might be better [23:17] in terms of archiving for posterity, there is only like one implementation of 7z which has some portability and code quality issues which could be a concern decades from now, but for your own backups maybe not an issue [23:20] ok I will use zip with no compression. [23:21] DFJustin: there are at least two implementations; "The Unarchiver" (i.e. unar/lsar) does 7z [23:21] ok [23:22] unarchiver is in objective-c and I completely failed to build it on windows so not sure how future-proof that is either heh [23:23] it seems fairly solid -- certainly better than stock p7zip, anyway [23:23] but I'm not sure I'd choose 7z as a long-term archiving format unless there was something specific about it that I wanted... [23:23] there's an awful lot of complexity in the 7z spec [23:43] Working hard on the Internet Arcade today [23:45] mmm [23:47] progress keeps ticking along [23:49] Did anyone get back to parsons about the Meetup site? [23:52] SketchCow: did you see parsons request for help with handling their site shutdown? [23:53] I support anything [23:55] one of the people from Meetup wants your help to shutdown their Meet Anywhere service, and pass the data onto you