#archiveteam 2014-11-02,Sun

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00:35 πŸ”— arkiver <SketchCow>And does it send, oh, 100,000,000 tiny files
00:35 πŸ”— arkiver those are not the files from verizon or swipnet?
01:49 πŸ”— SketchCow I don't know.
01:49 πŸ”— SketchCow Anyway, the usual nobody being around at internet archive for this call means it might not get fixed for the weekend.
01:56 πŸ”— godane that sucks
09:07 πŸ”— SketchCow fos super diwn
09:07 πŸ”— SketchCow diwn
09:07 πŸ”— SketchCow jeyboard sucks
09:49 πŸ”— schbirid people who copy descriptions from wikipedia to IA (eg in the arcade collection), please remember the free license and properly honor it
10:16 πŸ”— antomatic You can always spot Wikipedia copypastes because they're usually "Such-and-such was a web site which did this. On 11th March 2012 a small detail was changed. Lots of people disagreed. On another intensely specific date, the site was relaunched an revamped and rebranded. The website offers pictures of cats."
10:17 πŸ”— antomatic Unnecessary intense detail in lead paragraph, for the win.
13:03 πŸ”— dashcloud what needs to be changed to honor the license?
13:22 πŸ”— schbirid attribution and share alike https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_3.0_Unported_License
15:33 πŸ”— n00b185 hi, i can't get heritrix 3.2.0 or 3.3.X working either on linux or windows with same classnotfound error with oracle jre 1.8.0_25
15:33 πŸ”— n00b185 is the doc maybe outdated and addiotional steps needed?
15:37 πŸ”— n00b185 http://justpaste.it/ht5t
18:47 πŸ”— Nemo_bis Always amusing how rsync is slow on local http://lwn.net/Articles/400489/
19:14 πŸ”— TFGBD hey
19:14 πŸ”— TFGBD https://onedrive.live.com/?cid=21F7781DB9BE4BBB&id=21F7781DB9BE4BBB!289
19:14 πŸ”— TFGBD I should be able to provide most of the stuff in the above album
19:14 πŸ”— TFGBD but no scans, unfortunately
19:14 πŸ”— TFGBD Just CD images and maybe some photos
19:23 πŸ”— SketchCow FOS is still not well.
19:54 πŸ”— DFJustin https://twitter.com/jayrosen_nyu/status/528993183402053633
21:05 πŸ”— namespace Is archiveteam just out of space or?
21:05 πŸ”— db48x we keep tackling bigger projects
21:06 πŸ”— DFJustin our fortress of solitude at the internet archive crashed and no one will be back in the office until monday
21:06 πŸ”— db48x oh, that too
21:06 πŸ”— namespace So *that's* what FOS stands for.
21:06 πŸ”— db48x heh
21:28 πŸ”— SketchCow Hey there.
21:28 πŸ”— SketchCow FOS crashed hard, one drive not responding.
21:28 πŸ”— SketchCow Assume all is lost on that machine, be surprised when it's not.
21:30 πŸ”— SketchCow
21:30 πŸ”— SketchCow mountall: mount /home [777] terminated with status 32
21:30 πŸ”— SketchCow ugh .. its down and unhealthyҀ
21:30 πŸ”— SketchCow Continue to wait, or Press S to skip mounting or M for manual recoveryҀ
21:30 πŸ”— SketchCow The disk drive for /0 is not ready yet or not present.
21:30 πŸ”— SketchCow Γ’Β€ΒŽ2Γ’Β€ΒŽ:Γ’Β€ΒŽ53Γ’Β€ΒŽ Γ’Β€ΒŽPM
21:30 πŸ”— SketchCow that could mean its checking or that it is really brokenҀ
21:31 πŸ”— SketchCow
21:31 πŸ”— SketchCow mountall: mount /home [777] terminated with status 32
21:31 πŸ”— SketchCow ugh .. its down and unhealthyҀ
21:31 πŸ”— SketchCow There's another machine I will see about bringing up.
21:31 πŸ”— SketchCow It has hard drive space, we can work with that.
21:34 πŸ”— godane i hope you didn't lose any data
21:35 πŸ”— yipdw heh
21:36 πŸ”— yipdw there's going to be all kinds of fun whining in #archivebot
21:36 πŸ”— yipdw oh well
21:37 πŸ”— SketchCow I agree.
21:37 πŸ”— joepie91 was archivebot stuff lost?
21:37 πŸ”— SketchCow The machine never got mirroring.
21:37 πŸ”— SketchCow Well, at most 2-3 days of work. Likely less.
21:37 πŸ”— SketchCow I trigger those off constantly.
21:37 πŸ”— SketchCow So really, thinking of it more, 12 hours worth.
21:38 πŸ”— SketchCow But like, the entire status board was on that drive, my JSMESS development environment, etc.
21:38 πŸ”— yipdw yeah
21:38 πŸ”— SketchCow I mean, I'm ultimately fine with it. We'll figure it out
21:39 πŸ”— SketchCow It is hard to upload as much as has gone up and how much is in there and then go "buuutt.... I had MOOOOOOOREEEE"
21:41 πŸ”— chfoo did it crash because of an archiveteam thing and can it be prevented in the future?
21:41 πŸ”— SketchCow This is likely either:
21:41 πŸ”— SketchCow - hardware failure
21:41 πŸ”— SketchCow - I did "stuff" to it and since it hasn'tbooted in, like, a year, we didn't know about the "stuff" until now
21:42 πŸ”— SketchCow Just no way to tell
21:42 πŸ”— SketchCow It's likely they will all punt to Andy, who comes in tomorrow.
21:43 πŸ”— db48x aww, lost all that uptime
21:43 πŸ”— joepie91 SketchCow: you have established with certainty that it is a hardware failure?
21:44 πŸ”— joepie91 or still a possibility of software issues?
21:44 πŸ”— SketchCow There's no real info.
21:44 πŸ”— SketchCow Whatever happened crashed the baremetal host, not just FOS
21:45 πŸ”— SketchCow The baremetal host of teamarchive0.fnf.archive.org has kernel panic's in it's dmesg (in IO stack and the vm's IO threads are all blocked.
21:45 πŸ”— joepie91 I see
21:45 πŸ”— joepie91 SketchCow: well, if there's any way I can help, let me know :P
21:46 πŸ”— SketchCow I have to let the admins work with it, and the admins are not really a 24 hour operation.
21:46 πŸ”— joepie91 alright
21:47 πŸ”— SketchCow I've been working hard to make that machine as empty as possible.
21:47 πŸ”— SketchCow I'd say I had 30-40% off this drive that died
21:47 πŸ”— SketchCow But the machine is just fuckinghammered
21:48 πŸ”— SketchCow I've been using it way beyond the means of the hardware and the capacity of that rack
21:48 πŸ”— SketchCow So who knows.
21:49 πŸ”— yipdw psytrace washing machine strikes agai
21:49 πŸ”— yipdw n
21:49 πŸ”— SketchCow Pretty much
21:50 πŸ”— SketchCow Some ancient yahoo might be dead in there, too.
21:50 πŸ”— SketchCow You know, stuff
21:50 πŸ”— SketchCow By its nature, it was fucked up and broken, stuff that was added during our old paradigms before we got our shit together.
21:54 πŸ”— Nemo_bis It's only few TB
21:54 πŸ”— Nemo_bis A fraction of what it passed there :)
21:57 πŸ”— antomatic Depends (I guess) if it's just that drive, or the whole array
21:58 πŸ”— antomatic That hideous russian roulette of 'bet all your data on any one drive' arrangement of RAID-0
21:59 πŸ”— antomatic fingers crossed for a good result.
21:59 πŸ”— godane SketchCow: i hope the bootlegs i have uploaded all safe
22:10 πŸ”— SketchCow If you uploaded them to FOS, who knows
22:20 πŸ”— arkiver SketchCow: if we've lost project items please let me know ASAP
22:20 πŸ”— arkiver qwiki should have closed yesterday, but is still online, so some items can be redownloaded
22:21 πŸ”— arkiver same for ancestry
22:23 πŸ”— chfoo gamemaker sandbox is still online
22:23 πŸ”— arkiver chfoo: when was the closing date?
22:24 πŸ”— chfoo arkiver: they never specified a date
22:26 πŸ”— arkiver I see
22:27 πŸ”— arkiver chfoo: I guess you know about the ownlog-grab?
22:28 πŸ”— arkiver I haven't seen bebzol around for some time and I'm not sure if ownlog is urgent?
22:29 πŸ”— chfoo yes, i know. i don't recall bebzol mentioning it was urgent however
22:33 πŸ”— aaaaaaaaa I think it is a just-in-case grab because it looks like that site is just coasting.
22:56 πŸ”— arkiver yeah, it's fine for now probably
23:25 πŸ”— SketchCow I'm in the air motherfuckers
23:36 πŸ”— joepie91 SketchCow: data recovered? or just back online? :P
23:36 πŸ”— DFJustin literally in the air https://twitter.com/textfiles/status/529014861209284609
23:44 πŸ”— joepie91 aw damnit
23:44 πŸ”— joepie91 getting my hopes up for nothing
23:44 πŸ”— joepie91 :(
23:44 πŸ”— Fusl i wonder what happens when twitter or facebook gets shut down
23:44 πŸ”— Fusl buggest archiving ever?
23:44 πŸ”— Fusl biggest*
23:44 πŸ”— joepie91 Fusl: basically, we'll all be fucked
23:45 πŸ”— Fusl :D
23:47 πŸ”— antomatic Things like Twitter and Facebook could only really be (partially) archived if you start *now*
23:47 πŸ”— antomatic it'd be waaaay too late to start once they announced a closure.
23:47 πŸ”— Fusl does someone want to do that? :D
23:48 πŸ”— DFJustin also they use more space than the internet archive does so good luck holding it
23:48 πŸ”— antomatic Needs some kind of viral mechanic. e.g. 'Like this post so that the Internet Archive can cryogenically freeze your Facebook profile for the future'
23:49 πŸ”— dashcloud twitter does donate its archives to the Library of Congress, so they will be preserved (not that any of us can reasonably expect access though)
23:49 πŸ”— Fusl DFJustin: i'd be able to store that :3
23:51 πŸ”— godane its why i do some slow collecting of stuff i upload
23:51 πŸ”— godane like funny or die
23:51 πŸ”— godane i don't think funny or die should be more the 4tb
23:52 πŸ”— godane at least thats the hope
23:55 πŸ”— joepie91 Fusl: problem is not being able to store it
23:55 πŸ”— joepie91 problem is being able to *keep* storing it, indefinitely
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