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00:58 🔗 wp494 I just saw the #rooined plans, sorry for the delay
00:58 🔗 wp494 if you were in there, you can come back now
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02:22 🔗 SketchCow Hi, what is ziplist?
02:27 🔗 garyrh shopping list management tool+recipe search engine
02:27 🔗 aaaaaaaaa its a sort of shopping list and recipe app
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03:02 🔗 joepie91 midas: that looks like a pain in the ass to archive..
03:11 🔗 Start http://m.softpedia.com/microsoft-to-kill-the-nokia-trailers-app-for-windows-phone-466336.html
03:13 🔗 Start that's it, i'm no longer trusting anything with the nokia name on it
03:13 🔗 Start nokia reading, then nokia memories, now nokia trailers
03:13 🔗 Start it's like the second coming of yahoo
03:17 🔗 Start here's a google crawl: http://paste.archivingyoursh.it/giqapuyisu.avrasm
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03:48 🔗 Start nokia trailers urls appear to be 11 character alphanumeric with dashes and underscores (example: www.nokiatrailers.com/trailer/_fD6YIb-ErQ)
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05:06 🔗 Start should we organize a warrior job for nokia trailers? discovery would be very tedious and time-consuming, and there's no user generated content
05:07 🔗 xmc imo "no ugc" puts it somewhat outboard of archiveteam's mission
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05:11 🔗 Start speaking of nokia, has anyone found a good way for discovering nokia memories items?
05:17 🔗 chfoo scrape from twitter's web search?
05:23 🔗 Start a combined google, reddit and twitter scrape is probably the best way to do it.
05:23 🔗 chfoo i wrote this tool for url shorteners that drives firefox via selenium but it might be useful here too https://github.com/chfoo/furlat
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06:04 🔗 SketchCow Got one drive on fos to 36% full.
06:04 🔗 SketchCow Trying for nearly 0
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06:07 🔗 Dec-31-99 Do you fools really respect some like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jscott&oldid=7652448 or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Textfiles.com?
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06:08 🔗 mistym That was some pretty low-quality drive-by trolling.
06:11 🔗 Nemo_bis For that matter, Jimmy Wales is a way worse troll :)
06:12 🔗 Nemo_bis (Worse than the user linked by Dec)
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06:17 🔗 Dec-31-99 What's sad is that J.Scott works for Archive.org/Internet Archive, which just happens to be associated with the Wikimedia Foundation. And here J.Scott picks on people at Wikipedia & was told off for doing so. Get it through your fucking heads: J.SCOTT IS A JERK & A HYPOCRITE!!! HE IS NOT GOD! HE CYBERBULLIES PEOPLE AND GETS AWAY WITH IT!
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06:17 🔗 RedType rofl
06:17 🔗 RedType it's that guy again
06:17 🔗 ersi sets mode: +b Dec*!*@*
06:17 🔗 ersi You'd think he'd grow up one day
06:17 🔗 ersi I'm skeptic
06:17 🔗 xmc that day is in the future
06:18 🔗 ersi might never happen
06:19 🔗 ersi Dec-31-99 (I know you're reading the online log of the chat or have an extra client here): Jscott/Sketchcow isn't our leader or our boss. Frankly, most in here don't care what you're writing about
06:20 🔗 ersi If you'd just dial done your tone or what ever the fuck you have a problem with, you'd be welcome to hang around. (Although, it's getting quite embarassing for yourself as you've kept this up for months)
06:21 🔗 ersi The only thing you're doing, is making an ass out of yourself in a quiet place infront of 140-150 people from all around the world.
06:22 🔗 RedType man says tasteless things 10 years ago (who hasnt said dumb things they regret) but who now gets significant shit done vs irc troll who says dumb things now (and that's it)
06:24 🔗 xmc nah. dec-31-99 has said too much stupid shit for me to tolerate their presence any longer.
06:25 🔗 xmc where did my ops go
06:25 🔗 ersi Dec-31-99: So you're upset about 1) Being told to chill the fuck down 2) Being banned from an IRC channel? Good grief, end of the world kind of stuff.
06:25 🔗 ersi sets mode: +o xmc
06:25 🔗 xmc sets mode: +o swebb
06:25 🔗 RedType the big crime was bruising his ego
06:25 🔗 xmc let's not talk about this any more.
06:26 🔗 ersi I think you have the wrong approach to socialising and blending in. I usually lurk for a good while, getting to know things and know the tone of group. If I don't feel accepted in a group, I might say that and/or I might leave. It's not the end of the world if you don't fit in everywhere. That's all I have to say.
06:27 🔗 xmc sets mode: +oooo SketchCow chfoo joepie91 Nemo_bis
06:27 🔗 xmc sets mode: +oo SmileyG yipdw
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12:41 🔗 commentat joepie91 enig idee hoe die site wel binnen te halen is dan :) ?
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12:50 🔗 joepie91 commentat: het is denk ik een gevalletje warc-proxy...
12:50 🔗 joepie91 oftewel, warc-proxy (of hoe het dan ook heet) instellen in browser en dan handmatig alles aanklikken
12:50 🔗 joepie91 (maar dat kan alleen met Chrome denk ik, volgens mij negeert Flash in andere browsers de proxy-instellingen)
12:51 🔗 joepie91 but perhaps we should switch back to English :P
12:53 🔗 commentat joepie91 does this warcproxy support flash?
12:53 🔗 joepie91 commentat: it just presents itself as a HTTP proxy, so if you somehow make Flash use it as a proxy, it should wor
12:53 🔗 joepie91 work *
12:53 🔗 commentat ok
12:54 🔗 joepie91 (and intercepts/records all the requests/responses)
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14:20 🔗 midas we should have #archiveteam-nl
14:20 🔗 midas because dutchies
14:21 🔗 midas we dont forget, we dont forgive. We just get taller.
14:27 🔗 joepie91 lol
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16:30 🔗 Start any ideas for irc channel names for ownlog and nokia memories?
16:30 🔗 Start #pwnlog and #forgottenmemories?
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16:42 🔗 kyan #memorieshole?
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16:52 🔗 raylee #nokiashistory
16:53 🔗 arkiver chfoo: some progress with ownlog happened? I haven't seen bebzol yet in a hilw
16:53 🔗 arkiver while*
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16:55 🔗 schbirid fockyamemories
16:56 🔗 Start arkiver: it was added to the upcoming projects list
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17:10 🔗 chfoo arkiver: did bebzol leave behind a list of usernames? i don't see it in the logs or in the wiki
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18:54 🔗 SadDM OK gang, I've got a question about the IA python tool...
18:54 🔗 SadDM When using --modify what is the seperator?
18:55 🔗 SadDM for example --modify="subject:foo; bar" leaves me with a single subject of "foo; bar"
18:58 🔗 SketchCow I'd have made the nokia project #backtorubber
18:58 🔗 xmc ha
18:59 🔗 SketchCow I went through the entire Nokia part of the finnish science museum
18:59 🔗 SketchCow Except for the ridiculous cold, Finland was such a nice country
19:00 🔗 SketchCow FOS is finally starting to heal. Is this zip thing going to get more items?
19:01 🔗 Nemo_bis SadDM: I always get confused by that too ^^
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19:02 🔗 SketchCow OH YEAH THE STUPID SUBJECT THING
19:02 🔗 SadDM It's making me crazy because I saw a script that somebody wrote that was appending keywords, but I don't know who, or where it was.
19:02 🔗 SketchCow I wrote that script.
19:03 🔗 SadDM AHA!
19:03 🔗 SketchCow I may not be the leader here, but I'm a leader
19:05 🔗 SketchCow Here's the secret bullshit you're missing:
19:05 🔗 SadDM https://archive.org/help/abouts3.txt seems to indicate that it's ";" but clearly the tool is expecting something different.
19:05 🔗 SadDM oh please!
19:05 🔗 SketchCow ia metadata --modify "subject[0]:color" --modify "subject[1]:program" --modify "subject[2]:software" --modify "subject[3]:programs" --modify "subject[4]:computer" --modify "subject[5]:coco" --modify "subject[6]:basic" --modify "subject[7]:screen" --modify "subject[8]:graphic" TheRainbowVol.01No.09March1982
19:06 🔗 SadDM FFUUUU...
19:06 🔗 SadDM thank you!
19:06 🔗 SadDM god that sucks
19:06 🔗 SketchCow It makes total sense if you walk it down
19:07 🔗 SketchCow But like a lot of things in the organization, nothing walks you down unless you're in the office (like I sometimes am) having it explained to you by someone who co-designed it/lives with it
19:07 🔗 SketchCow It's this.
19:07 🔗 SketchCow ; works for everything except texts.
19:07 🔗 SketchCow I KNOW TEXTS ARE IMPORTANT
19:07 🔗 SketchCow So the s3 thing should say everything BUT texts
19:07 🔗 SketchCow Now, the [1] [2] stuff works fine for everything, but it's the only thing that works for texts.
19:10 🔗 SadDM I think I vaguely understand the "why", but it's just WAY more typeing or scripting :-( Thanks SketchCow
19:10 🔗 schbirid script the scripting
19:10 🔗 SadDM yeah, exactly
19:10 🔗 Jonimus ^ done that its always "fun"
19:11 🔗 SketchCow I do a pretty hilarious hack to do the scripting.
19:12 🔗 Jonimus heck you could possibly make a wrapper that converts subject:blah; blah2 into subject[0]:blah subject[1]:blah2
19:12 🔗 SadDM I'll write a script that takes a ";" delimited list, writes a ia metadata --modify line, which is then ultimately going to write a ";" delimited list in the api call *sigh*
19:12 🔗 SketchCow I wrote that!
19:13 🔗 * SadDM sighs, smiles, and shakes his head
19:13 🔗 SadDM do you happen to have that handy?
19:14 🔗 SketchCow I sent it to SadDM in a message
19:14 🔗 SketchCow But I am going to put it on a pastebin
19:15 🔗 SketchCow http://pastebin.com/FY5jugYr
19:15 🔗 SketchCow Note, it will only work on items you own for some reason
19:15 🔗 SketchCow Looks at subject. If subject has a ; in it, it goes "aw man", deletes the subject, then puts in a properly broken-up version.
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19:34 🔗 DFJustin I've figured out a lot of quirks like that just from playing with it all over time
19:35 🔗 Start SketchCow: i like #backtorubber
19:36 🔗 DFJustin like, it sets the year field automatically if you set the date field using the web interface but not if you set a date through s3 or some other automated method
19:36 🔗 Start i'll add it to the wiki
19:36 🔗 SketchCow I won a tiny tiny thing at archive just now.
19:37 🔗 SketchCow I'm going through the open collections (the shitbin of uploads) and we're going to make a few things go into collections
19:37 🔗 SketchCow I'd been doing this, but this new one is 160,000 items.
19:37 🔗 SketchCow That's about 20% of EVERYTHING in the texts collection
19:37 🔗 SketchCow The open texts collection, I mean
19:37 🔗 Start i'll use #pwnlog for ownlog
19:38 🔗 DFJustin is this more folkscanomy stuff or different
19:38 🔗 SketchCow Different
19:39 🔗 SketchCow Someone mirrored DocumentCloud
19:39 🔗 SketchCow Which is meant to be kind of a scribd-y thing for journalists and researchers
19:39 🔗 SketchCow Got a knight foundation grant
19:39 🔗 SketchCow Anyway, 160,000 documents
19:39 🔗 SketchCow So many documents, so boring
19:42 🔗 SketchCow I wish there was a way to do windirstat for files
19:43 🔗 SketchCow http://a.fsdn.com/con/app/proj/windirstat/screenshots/98445.jpg
19:44 🔗 SketchCow Treemapping!
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19:59 🔗 xmc whoooaaaa
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20:13 🔗 DFJustin semicolon script mangles unicode, not unexpectedly
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20:38 🔗 SketchCow I did it!
20:38 🔗 SketchCow http://fos.textfiles.com/tree.html
20:38 🔗 SketchCow It'll be brutal on your machine
20:48 🔗 SadDM TIL that I've sent SketchCow email before.
20:49 🔗 schbirid i guess it is addresses from items instead
20:49 🔗 SadDM or no... these are items in the Opensource collection... that # looks about right for me
20:50 🔗 schbirid personal mails would be a privacy leak
20:50 🔗 SadDM yeah, I suppose so
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20:54 🔗 SketchCow This is uploads, yes.
20:54 🔗 SketchCow And it's going to help me REALLY clean that shit up
20:56 🔗 SketchCow Shuffling this 168,000 item nightmare person into a collection will make things much better
20:59 🔗 SketchCow Who did gamemaker?
21:01 🔗 garyrh chfoo
21:02 🔗 SadDM Wow... looking at a person's uploads really gives you a picture of them.
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21:09 🔗 SketchCow That map will become more coherent once I move away that crazy bot
21:10 🔗 SketchCow I changed an internal classification policy today!
21:15 🔗 Nemo_bis Classification as in classified file? :()
21:16 🔗 Nemo_bis "Gretta" means stingy (female) in Italian
21:17 🔗 Nemo_bis More or less
21:17 🔗 SketchCow No, we had a policy that was both ignored and out of date.
21:17 🔗 SketchCow We weren't following it, but it meant stuff stayed in opensource (the bin of unclassified items)
21:18 🔗 SketchCow Now I am aggressively moving towards clearing EVERY collection up
21:18 🔗 SketchCow I did shove a bunch of non-shareware CD-ROMs into a subcollection, by the way, DFJustin and everyone else complaining.
21:19 🔗 DFJustin :D
21:19 🔗 SketchCow Many more to go, but basically I'm making assitive scripts and tools so that if I basically concentrate on the items in the IA collection, I can be cleaning up and making stuff go in the right places and doing the right things in no time.
21:21 🔗 SketchCow This is my 2015 goal!
21:21 🔗 SketchCow But the way IA works, the year's accomplishments basically end in November of the year.
21:21 🔗 SketchCow So gotta get going
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22:11 🔗 schbirid http://themeworld.com was offline for some days, might be worth saving
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