#archiveteam 2014-12-26,Fri

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00:03 🔗 aleatoryb hey all, happy merry. i'm working on archiving videos from the us senate select cmmttee on intel. there's 3 kinds: realmedia (gross but workable), flv on some proprietary akamai server (why I'm here), and flv on an akamai adobeHDS server (gross but workable). all the sen. committee sites are likely to change when new congress takes over
00:20 🔗 aleatoryb not rtmp, some proprietary system that throttles flv transfer to a trickle without some encrypted requests at regular intervals. can go into more detail if anyone's interested
00:26 🔗 godane i want to see a link to one of these videos?
00:31 🔗 godane i got a example: http://www.banking.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Hearings.LiveStream&Hearing_id=9a041872-9581-4912-8414-16c343da15f2
00:36 🔗 aleatoryb http://www.senate.gov/isvp/?type=live&comm=intel&filename=intel092110&stt=0:00:00
00:37 🔗 aleatoryb the first .flv link that shows up in network dev tab is wget/curlable but very very slow
00:38 🔗 aleatoryb these were hosted on an older flash media server (fms.senate.gov) from 2009-2013 which was shut off.. they moved the media onto this other server but never actually updated the links on the committee page
00:38 🔗 aleatoryb i discovered them because the naming protocol is consistent :P
00:42 🔗 aleatoryb godane - http://ussenate-f.akamaihd.net/intel092110.flv?v=3.1.0&fp=LNX%2011,2,202,425&r=XOOPN&g=IXXOJNQLIPVF is direct flv. the requests after that seem to trigger the unthrottling from the streaming server.
00:43 🔗 aleatoryb requesting without the gunk after the ? returns 403 forbidden. But it's public domain! :P
00:46 🔗 godane very weird
00:47 🔗 godane its its not even going in real time
00:47 🔗 godane also 2g is very big for this video
00:47 🔗 aleatoryb yes.. and yes.
00:48 🔗 aleatoryb The only thorough documentation on the server is this paper https://www.academia.edu/367387/An_Experimental_Investigation_of_the_Akamai_Adaptive_Video_Streaming
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00:50 🔗 aleatoryb or http://c3lab.poliba.it/images/d/d8/Akamai_wima2010.pdf if academia.edu throws a login-wall
00:51 🔗 aleatoryb I can spend the few hundred hours resuming wgets as they eventually get cut off, but if there's something more straightforward that'd be great :D
00:52 🔗 aleatoryb fwiw more recent hearings are much easier to scrape
00:53 🔗 godane i noticed this: http://calchannel.granicus.com/ViewPublisherRSS.php?view_id=7&mode=vpodcast
00:54 🔗 godane the only problem is it gives good file names in firefox but will not in wget
01:02 🔗 aleatoryb yeah, granicus supplies discoverable .mp4 and even captions in .json for full floor proceedings
01:03 🔗 aleatoryb they don't do anything with senate committies afaik
01:04 🔗 aleatoryb didn't realize they were hosting all the CA legislative stuff, though. that's ... going on the ToDo list
01:06 🔗 aleatoryb oh, wget doesn't actually seem to be able to resume these after all.
01:14 🔗 aleatoryb being able to get a complete file via resumes would at least be something. otherwise I think I'm left to writing letters to akamai and the committee chairs
01:16 🔗 godane http://www.calchannel.com/recent-archive/
01:16 🔗 godane that has files going as far back as 2012
01:16 🔗 aleatoryb that's the california legislature, not the senate intel committee
01:16 🔗 godane i know
01:18 🔗 godane looks like the california legislature is at least all there
01:18 🔗 aleatoryb sen intel has realmedia from 2007-2008, these problematic flvs from 2009-2013, and HDS adaptive streaming late 2013-2014/present
01:21 🔗 godane never mind
01:22 🔗 godane looks like clip 1975 is in 2014
01:22 🔗 godane should be in 2011 based on wayback grabs
01:24 🔗 aleatoryb those go back to 2012, requesting lower file IDs seems to get them even if they aren't in the rss
01:25 🔗 aleatoryb http://calchannel.granicus.com/MediaPlayer.php?view_id=7&clip_id=13 for instance (some numbers are 'denied', however). any advice on how to archive these crappy flvs from SSCI?
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02:22 🔗 aleatoryb HTTP server doesn't seem to support byte ranges. Cannot resume. :[
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03:39 🔗 godane aleatoryb: i know of a way
03:40 🔗 aleatoryb it's a christmas miracle!
03:40 🔗 godane with calchannel i can just make a brute force archive of clip_id from 1 to 2400
03:41 🔗 aleatoryb I've done that with other granicus collections. But that doesn't cover these FLVs
03:41 🔗 godane they have mp4 and mp3 files in the warc.gz html files
03:43 🔗 aleatoryb like http://ussenate-f.akamaihd.net/intel092110.flv?v=3.1.0&fp=LNX%2011,2,202,425&r=XOOPN&g=IXXOJNQLIPVF -- and 25 or so others like it
03:48 🔗 godane found the m3u8 file: http://ussenate-f.akamaihd.net/i/intel092110.flv/master.m3u8
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07:19 🔗 aleatoryb interesting. ffmpeg produced 1 minute of silent audio from that m3u8
07:19 🔗 aleatoryb ve haff ways of making you talk! (this is the same committee that produced the report on cia torture a couple weeks ago :P )
07:24 🔗 aleatoryb well what have we here? http://ussenate-f.akamaihd.net/i/intel092110.flv/index_0_a.m3u8?e=b471643725c47acd - lots of segment files
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07:31 🔗 aleatoryb lots of 3 second audio files in there as mpeg transport streams
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07:43 🔗 aleatoryb ffmpeg reads it as a ~1.5 hour mp3, but when I tell it to remux it breaks on a 404 about a minute in. Some of these work, though. Could be a good sound art project in these fragments.
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