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[03:51] *** ohhdemgir has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [03:58] i like #looza [04:01] https://support.google.com/businesssitebuilder/answer/6098405?hl=en&ref_topic=6088540 [04:01] looks like more than just woza is shutting down [04:04] looks like google business sitebuilder and associated services will be shut down [04:04] #sitebreaker [04:27] *** mistym has joined #archiveteam [04:46] *** achip has joined #archiveteam [05:08] *** achip has quit IRC () [05:10] *** signius has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 512 seconds) [05:16] *** RainbowCo has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in) [05:18] *** aaaaaaaaa has quit IRC (Leaving) [05:19] *** signius has joined #archiveteam [05:52] *** wp494 has quit IRC (LOUD UNNECESSARY QUIT MESSAGES) [05:58] *** SN4T14 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 335 seconds) [06:04] *** wp494 has joined #archiveteam [06:32] *** SN4T14 has joined #archiveteam [06:56] *** dashcloud has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [07:00] *** dashcloud has joined #archiveteam [07:20] *** abartov has joined #archiveteam [07:25] *** philpem has joined #archiveteam [08:02] Start: awesome [08:02] let's get on it [08:02] #looza and #sitebreaker [08:05] *** abartov has quit IRC (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 34.0/20141127110442]) [08:11] *** APerti has joined #archiveteam [08:21] *** Selanda has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [08:22] *** brayden has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 606 seconds) [08:23] *** lemonkey has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [08:24] *** xtr-201 has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [08:25] *** mistym has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [08:25] *** xtr-201 has joined #archiveteam [08:28] *** brayden has joined #archiveteam [08:30] *** Selanda has joined #archiveteam [08:42] *** primus104 has joined #archiveteam [08:46] *** schbirid has joined #archiveteam [08:47] *** philpem has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [09:18] *** waddlespl has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [09:18] *** waddlespl has joined #archiveteam [09:24] *** MMovie has joined #archiveteam [09:24] *** zenguy_pc has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [09:26] *** MMovie1 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 335 seconds) [09:32] *** Emcy has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [09:39] *** dashcloud has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [09:39] *** zenguy_pc has joined #archiveteam [09:40] *** brayden has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [09:40] *** brayden has joined #archiveteam [09:41] *** brayden_ has joined #archiveteam [09:45] *** dashcloud has joined #archiveteam [09:47] *** brayden has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [09:58] *** BlueMaxim has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [10:08] *** Emcy has joined #archiveteam [10:19] *** lemonkey has joined #archiveteam [10:28] *** dashcloud has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [10:35] *** dashcloud has joined #archiveteam [10:53] *** dashcloud has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [10:57] *** danneh_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [10:59] *** dashcloud has joined #archiveteam [11:03] *** danneh_ has joined #archiveteam [11:33] *** ruukasu has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [12:05] *** dashcloud has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [12:08] *** dashcloud has joined #archiveteam [12:13] *** APerti has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [12:18] *** signius has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [12:28] *** signius has joined #archiveteam [12:30] *** signius has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [12:32] *** Ymgve has joined #archiveteam [12:32] *** signius has joined #archiveteam [12:33] *** __uu has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [12:37] *** primus104 has quit IRC (Leaving.) 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[14:40] *** ruukasu has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [14:40] *** kyan has joined #archiveteam [14:44] *** ruukasu has joined #archiveteam [14:44] *** APerti has joined #archiveteam [14:48] *** dashcloud has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [14:50] *** ruukasu has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1) [14:54] *** dashcloud has joined #archiveteam [15:24] *** primus104 has joined #archiveteam [15:32] *** mistym has joined #archiveteam [15:34] *** mistym has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [15:37] *** signius has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 512 seconds) [15:47] *** ruukasu has joined #archiveteam [15:48] *** signius has joined #archiveteam [15:52] *** mistym has joined #archiveteam [15:52] Nyaaaaa! Why do they keep us *waiting* !!! http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00R45V3SW [15:53] pricy [15:53] (The sata bare drives aren't available until February, it reckons.) [15:53] You want pricy, try this: http://www.ebuyer.com/698094-seagate-backup-plus-8tb-desktop-hard-drive-stdt8000200 [15:54] *** dashcloud has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [15:54] That started at £299 a few days ago, and just started going up. Not bad for something that's not even out yet. [15:54] what the fuck? [15:54] 908 gbp [15:54] thats fucking idiotic [15:54] The prices on the usual "oh yes, we sell those" bottom feeder websites all went up to match, too. [15:55] I suspect some automatic pricing thing has misfired somewhere. :) [15:55] I might take the customs hit and order one from Amazon. :) [15:56] Instant £700 saving. :) [16:01] *** dashcloud has joined #archiveteam [16:09] *** robink has joined #archiveteam [16:15] *** aaaaaaaaa has joined #archiveteam [16:16] *** phuzion_ has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [16:19] *** phuzion has joined #archiveteam [16:51] *** mistym has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [16:51] *** mistym has joined #archiveteam [16:56] hmmm, 240€ in germany [16:57] http://geizhals.de/?phist=1204027&age=93 [16:58] *** mistym has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [17:00] *** K4k has joined #archiveteam [17:10] *** mistym has joined #archiveteam [17:15] *** Start has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [17:28] http://azerty.nl/0-826-796775/seagate-archive-hdd-st8000as0002-vaste-schijf-8-tb-intern-3-5-sata-6gb-s-buffer-128-mb.html?channel_code=40 [17:28] 256 in .nl [17:28] ill wait a couple of months and i might start replacing my 4T drives [17:29] *** ruukasu has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1) [17:31] awesome [17:31] definitely my next harddrives [17:32] indeed, now I can risk losing even more data while being subject to even tighter supply constraints [17:32] win-win [17:32] Bear in mind that they're designed for size, not performance - they're made for archiving, not as a daily driver [17:33] antomatic: thats the reason why ill be replacing my current 4T drives :p [17:38] *** ohhdemgir has joined #archiveteam [17:47] *** rejon has joined #archiveteam [17:51] *** philpem has joined #archiveteam [18:57] *** Start has joined #archiveteam [19:00] idea: we should have irc channels for general archiveteam-related yahoo and nokia discussion [19:02] *** APerti_ has joined #archiveteam [19:04] *** APerti has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 370 seconds) [19:17] *** Start_ has joined #archiveteam [19:17] *** Start has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [19:38] *** Start_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 606 seconds) [20:04] *** APerti has joined #archiveteam [20:05] *** mistym has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [20:09] *** APerti_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 512 seconds) [20:18] *** APerti_ has joined #archiveteam [20:22] *** APerti has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 512 seconds) [20:23] *** mistym has joined #archiveteam [20:30] SketchCow: alright if I'm going start uploading data (images, videos, fits) from telescopes from solar activity? [20:30] *** okeuday has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [20:36] SketchCow: found data going back to 1917 [20:40] *** loopholes has joined #archiveteam [20:40] Hello! [20:41] I'm interested in announcing a new archival project [20:41] How should I begin? [20:42] what site needs archiving? [20:42] Well, a mobile platform is closing down its store. [20:42] It's Ovi Store [20:43] and it is planned to save all Nokia Belle apps and games [20:44] Trouble is, I want this to be selective - so that only high quality free content is preserved [20:44] you should probably check http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Ovi_Store to see if anything is missing. [20:45] Oh, I've seen this; they've archived, as far as I can see only Maemo apps, which aren't very many compared to Symbian apps [20:45] many* [20:45] *** BlueMaxim has joined #archiveteam [20:46] I want indeed to do the same for a different platform [20:46] because Nokia Store currently has apps for Symbian, Maemo, Meego, S40(java) and ... Android? (I'm not sure of the last one) [20:47] *** rejon has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 512 seconds) [20:49] do you have any info on how to download the apps? there's only free maemo apps saved because it didn't require reverse engineering [20:50] Can anyone point me out an index file (that lists all the contents of the archive) in here, so that I can make sure it's only for Maemo? https://archive.org/details/maemo-fremantle-ovi [20:50] Ye! [20:50] Yes, I do! [20:50] The technique is very simple [20:50] I wrote about it here [20:50] https://ia801406.us.archive.org/tarview.php?tar=/28/items/maemo-fremantle-ovi/maemo-fremantle-ovi.tar [20:51] Oh, thank you! [20:51] .deb's are indeed only for Maemo. [20:52] Symbian's installation packages have a .sis or .sisx extension [20:52] https://nokia700phone.wordpress.com/2014/09/05/announcement-symbian-archival-project/ [20:53] anyone still here? [20:54] yes, give me time to actually read it [20:56] *** mistym has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [20:57] *** mistym has joined #archiveteam [20:57] i don't see how you are downloading the apps? and why not just save as much as reasonably possible instead of some QA criteria? [20:58] ouch, sorry, I forgot! https://nokia700phone.wordpress.com/tips-tricks/ [20:58] we add /Download to the address [20:59] Wow, that Chat app has since been removed, but the method works [20:59] on other apps that are available [21:00] such as this: http://store.ovi.com/content/178823 , an NFC tag writing app: http://store.ovi.com/content/178823/Download [21:01] oh, thanks, that is easy [21:02] because unfortunately there are some other problems with the store and content gets mixed up, really bad, [21:02] *** mistym has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [21:02] there is a part two of the article, if you want to read it: https://nokia700phone.wordpress.com/2014/12/30/symbian-archival-part-2/ [21:04] recently the store has been accepting a lot of bad content, which is java and unfortunately also compatible with Symbian [21:04] ovi store had not-bad apps in it before? [21:05] some policies have really been mess up by mico$oft's acquisition [21:05] yes, it had, but the quantity has increased in a short time [21:06] aye [21:06] these aside, can I announce this project on the Archive Team? [21:08] great, I'm messing up pretty bad my grammar, sleepiness is catching up with me, I guess [21:08] sorry [21:09] sure, you can call it an archiveteam project [21:09] welcome to archiveteam [21:09] ah, thank you! :) [21:10] SketchCow, share the @s ! [21:10] I'm really glad I found out about you, [21:10] also DFJustin balrog etc [21:11] some years ago I grabbed this item https://archive.org/details/SymbianOpenSource [21:11] precious, precious ops [21:12] opssssss [21:12] * xmc croons [21:12] *** SketchCow sets mode: +o xmc [21:12] *** xmc sets mode: +o swebb [21:12] *** SketchCow sets mode: +oooo antomatic APerti_ arkiver BlueMaxim [21:12] *** SketchCow sets mode: +oooo Cameron_D Coderjoe dashcloud dcmorton [21:13] *** human39 has joined #archiveteam [21:13] wow, that's great! I really wish we could also use the open source symbian system, but, like many projects at nokia, it was abruptly abandoned. [21:14] *** mistym has joined #archiveteam [21:14] yuuuup [21:14] xmc: you didn't grab the qnx open source though, right? [21:14] no [21:14] didn't know about it [21:16] does anyone have some more recent leaked firmware for Symbian? [21:17] I was looking for the leaked nokia belle fp2 files [21:17] they had some... interesting components [21:18] *** Ravenloft has joined #archiveteam [21:25] sorry, I didn't mean to sound cocky, but I wasn't sure how many people here knew about symbian. [21:26] what can I do now? can I create an account on your wiki? [21:27] what usually happens is someone creates the pipeline scripts that downloads the apps from app number 1 to how many there are [21:28] yep [21:28] *** xmc sets mode: +o chfoo [21:28] loopholes: the magic word is yahoosucks [21:28] I can do those [21:28] thanks! [21:29] *** K4k has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 600 seconds) [21:29] or loopholes can do the scripts :) [21:29] ;) [21:29] *** Start has joined #archiveteam [21:32] let me read on this. [21:32] ok, I'm technologically impaired; where do I log in? or what should I read? [21:34] http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Special:UserLogin&type=signup&returnto=Main+Page [21:35] much appreciated! [21:36] my pleasure :) [21:39] *** signius has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 512 seconds) [21:42] *** schbirid has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [21:49] how can I help? do you need a warrior now or can we still define what kind of apps we want to archive? is there a way to peep into nokia store's database? can I see how the script works? [21:49] *** signius has joined #archiveteam [21:49] how do you download these apps? [21:50] apply "/Download" to the end of the url [21:50] can you show us an example url though? [21:51] http://store.ovi.com/content/445929 [21:51] and after removing the redirecting garbage [21:51] ah [21:51] items are sequential, this could make a godd warrior project [21:51] *good [21:51] % curl http://store.ovi.com/content/445929/Download [21:51] bunch of headers ... including a link to the thingy [21:51] MIDlet-Jar-URL: https://d.ovi.com/p/g/store/17704948/a064ed1cea81617_762402.jar?q=1ZjrhYd07s*E4ptM0OCP1FM8PORFqbzx&c=ovi_store&eid=d823d2f3-c108-4485-9f7d-fd621c3d199f&productid=1150157&sid=OviStore&dlsrc=STORE_COM&iid=DCCWW [21:52] and that can just be wget'd [21:52] yes, the identifier is sequential, but there is no way to see if the app is for Symbian. [21:52] we can just nab them all [21:52] easier [21:52] Nokia-Webapp-URL: http://wam.browser.ovi.com/wam/v1_0/clients/608f4de1073532889e1b238db0dfdfd6/webapps/a064ed1cea81617345613e71f4505f18/?name=wikiHow&type=webapp [21:52] looks to be an image [21:52] aye [21:53] probably best to just nab all urls listed in headers [21:53] do you have an example of an app that gives a sis/sisx app? [21:53] *** db48x has joined #archiveteam [21:53] hm... that is easy, but we'll be left with a huge unorganised collection [21:53] ^^^^this one, for example, has Asha api's and won't work on Symbian [21:54] curation can come later [21:54] first, get all the data that the service exposes. [21:54] we shouldn't archive the entire nokia store [21:54] why not [21:54] or we could! [21:54] yesh! [21:54] yeah! [21:54] heh [21:54] NOW you're in archiveteam [21:54] so what's the plan [21:54] warrior/archivebot/manual? [21:54] *** sankin has quit IRC (Leaving.) [21:54] manual might be sufficient [21:54] how high do these numbers go? [21:55] wait, let me check something [21:55] i have to get back to work, unfortunately, but i'll be free in 5-6 hours [21:55] maybe this project should get a channel? [21:56] #downlovi [21:56] adding it to current projects [21:56] Start: going manual for now [21:56] ok [21:57] *** schbirid has joined #archiveteam [21:57] I will try to find an app that was published a long time ago and another that was puvlished very recently [21:57] i'll try seeing if i can find the highest url from the archivebot grab [21:57] cool [21:57] so that we can see [21:57] yeah [21:59] I have to go to a competition in 7 hours, hm... do you mind if I go get some sleep and come back later? [21:59] sure i guess? [21:59] do you know when ovi store goes away? [21:59] *** ruukasu has joined #archiveteam [21:59] cool, see you later! [21:59] Thanks for agreeing to help me! [22:00] you should join #downlovi too [22:00] never used efnet before, where do I join? [22:01] try typing /join #downlovi and press enter [22:01] got it! [22:01] coolz [22:01] thanks! [22:01] :) [22:09] *** APerti has joined #archiveteam [22:14] *** APerti_ has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [22:22] arkiver: re the 64dd backup: it appears it's getting a lot of these: [22:22] http://64dd.net/user.php?xoops_redirect=/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=6307 [22:22] which are obviously are all dupes [22:22] and are ignored, because they redirect to a user page [22:23] so you can probably add user.php to the ignore list [22:23] unless I'm wrong and you aren't ignoring user pages [22:23] *** APerti_ has joined #archiveteam [22:26] *** Start has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [22:27] *** loopholes has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) [22:31] *** APerti has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 606 seconds) [22:32] waddlespl: do you know till when it will be online? [22:36] waddlespl: ignored [22:38] *** dashcloud has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [22:38] *** APerti_ has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [22:45] *** APerti has joined #archiveteam [22:46] *** dashcloud has joined #archiveteam [22:52] *** APerti_ has joined #archiveteam [22:56] *** APerti has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 607 seconds) [23:01] *** APerti_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 512 seconds) [23:05] *** slash` has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 615 seconds) [23:07] *** waddlespl has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [23:07] *** waddlespl has joined #archiveteam [23:16] *** slash` has joined #archiveteam [23:16] *** dashcloud has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [23:20] *** dashcloud has joined #archiveteam [23:20] *** Start has joined #archiveteam [23:27] arkiver: no, the forum topic is private so we have no idea when it will go offline [23:27] arkiver: I'm from #n64dev, which is (one of) the last standing N64[DD] development hubs, so we don't want to lose 64dd.net obviously [23:31] *** slash``` has joined #archiveteam [23:31] *** slash` has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [23:34] arkiver: also, the delay doesn't really need to be 2000-4000ms, you can probably reduce it to 1000-2000 -- unless someone set it as that on purpose [23:35] arkiver: same for the amazon pages, no need to copy them [23:40] *** swebb has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [23:41] *** swebb has joined #archiveteam [23:43] *** chazchaz has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [23:43] *** espes__ has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [23:45] *** APerti has joined #archiveteam [23:49] *** chazchaz has joined #archiveteam [23:54] *** espes__ has joined #archiveteam [23:57] *** zifnab has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [23:59] *** zifnab has joined #archiveteam